How do you people do this?....
How do you people argue with these archaic and barbaric men?....


Tell them what they are and go your way....

zendy:


For some reason, you guys make everything out to be about GEJ and his election loss. I hope you guys remember there was history long before GEJ came on scene? Lets not forget what this thread is about. It is about Northern and the rest of Nigeria (the south).

In terms of Southern Nigeria politics in relation to the North, the SW has been the one betraying the cause of southern Nigeria. Of course it is the choice of the SW who the politically support and we have seen a pattern of support for the North from them since the end of the war. I think that the SW should own up to the fact they are the weakest link in Southern Nigeria.

Shut your stinky mouth? What southern cause? was there a southern cause before? Seems you're high on some cow dung..
Pray tell what the southern cause was that the SW betrayed.
Please don't run

I met a friend today who didn't believe in restructuring..After just a few minute discussion with him, he embraced it..
Imagine resources that would have otherwise gone into development are used to fight insurgency in the North..Really wish North can stay on their own and let them use their groundnut money to clean their boko haram mess. Why must I be paying for the foolishness of another?
Sighs

zendy:


For some reason, you guys make everything out to be about GEJ and his election loss. I hope you guys remember there was history long before GEJ came on scene? Lets not forget what this thread is about. It is about Northern and the rest of Nigeria (the south).

In terms of Southern Nigeria politics in relation to the North, the SW has been the one betraying the cause of southern Nigeria. Of course it is the choice of the SW who the politically support and we have seen a pattern of support for the North from them since the end of the war. I think that the SW should own up to the fact they are the weakest link in Southern Nigeria.

Weak link, my ass. What did you lot do to wrest power from the military. We remember the NADECO years clearly. Radio Kudirat and so on. Please name the SE people who agitated for the democracy we finally got in 1999. You SE people are notoriously AGIP(any government in power) people. Supporting anyone as long as they occupied the highest office in the land. Who has forgotten the horde of SE people who change bothe name and religion just to be considered worthy of government largess. Catholic Emekas turning into Alhaji Maliks, Chinonso turning to Ciroma. All because you do not have the will and fortitude and temperament to fight for what you believe in.

I remember the days when SW politicians and leaders were being canceled from the land of the living like flies all for demanding that IBB and Abacha give us democracy. It was so troublesome in fact, that Abacha was compelled to arrange a sham election. For this purpose, five political parties sprang up and four of these being populate by Igbo and Hausa all chose Abacha as their flag bearer. The only opposition party was majorly a Yoruba party. Mister, please, don't even try and reverse history.

BTW, the SW had no single arrangement or agreement with SE of your plans to secede in '67, as such, you cannot accuse us of betrayal. We agreed to nothing. The move was unilaterally yours. If the SE wants any political relevance, they must learn to cooperate with others, as we see the rash of Igbo politicians decamping to APC like olosho porting from Kuramo to Oniru.

SW owes you nothing, if you want a joint move, you would be wise to ask for teamwork in which you yourselves are fully invested. Otherwise, OYO.

ColonelDrake:

Shut your stinky mouth? What southern cause? was there a southern cause before? Seems you're high on some cow dung..
Pray tell what the southern cause was that the SW betrayed.
Please don't run

He will soon mention Biafra. I no know who send them message.

ColonelDrake:

Shut your stinky mouth? What southern cause? was there a southern cause before? Seems you're high on some cow dung..
Pray tell what the southern cause was that the SW betrayed.
Please don't run

Of course there is a southern course. Let me teach you Nigerian history which an ognoramus like you doesnt know. Why do you think there was a Southen and Northern protectorate but never a Nigerian protectorate. The colonial masters knew that southern Nigeria should not merge with the North becuase both were better off apart. However, the ultimate goal of the colonial master was to make profit so they eventually, they did merge it.


The Southern Nigerian cause has always been along the lines of the initial sentiments of the colonial masters.

That Southern Nigeria does not need the North

If Southern Nigeria is considered to be SW/SE/SS, which one of these 3 geopolitical zones do you think is most likely to seek 'one Nigeria' with the North?

That zone is the one that is against the cause of Southern Nigeria.

Timbuktuo:


Weak link, my ass. What did you lot do to wrest power from the military. We remember the NADECO years clearly. Radio Kudirat and so on. Please name the SE people who agitated for the democracy we finally got in 1999. You SE people are notoriously AGIP(any government in power) people. Supporting anyone as long as they occupied the highest office in the land. Who has forgotten the horde of SE people who change bothe name and religion just to be considered worthy of government largess. Catholic Emekas turning into Alhaji Maliks, Chinonso turning to Ciroma. All because you do not have the will and fortitude and temperament to fight for what you believe in.

I remember the days when SW politicians and leaders were being canceled from the land of the living like flies all for demanding that IBB and Abacha give us democracy. It was so troublesome in fact, that Abacha was compelled to arrange a sham election. For this purpose, five political parties sprang up and four of these being populate by Igbo and Hausa all chose Abacha as their flag bearer. The only opposition party was majorly a Yoruba party. Mister, please, don't even try and reverse history.

BTW, the SW had no single arrangement or agreement with SE of your plans to secede in '67, as such, you cannot accuse us of betrayal. We agreed to nothing. The move was unilaterally yours. If the SE wants any political relevance, they must learn to cooperate with others, as we see the rash of Igbo politicians decamping to APC like olosho porting from Kuramo to Oniru.

SW owes you nothing, if you want a joint move, you would be wise to ask for teamwork in which you yourselves are fully invested. Otherwise, OYO.

You pretty much saying what Im saying without knowing it. Dont you get it? If Southern Nigeria is SW/SE/SS, guess the one who is most likely to seek a political union with the North? Bare in mind that the North seeks political and economic domination of Nigeria. It is because of them that true federalism, resource control and fiscal responsibility is never coming back.

That zone in the south who are likely to help them by perpetually seeking unity with them, they are the weak link in the south.

zendy:


Of course there is a southern course. Let me teach you Nigerian history which an ognoramus like you doesnt know. Why do you think there was a Southen and Northern protectorate but never a Nigerian protectorate. The colonial masters knew that southern Nigeria should not merge with the North becuase both were better off apart. However, the ultimate goal of the colonial master was to make profit so they eventually, they did merge it.


The Southern Nigerian cause has always been along the lines of the initial sentiments of the colonial masters.

That Southern Nigeria does not need the North

If Southern Nigeria is considered to be SW/SE/SS, which one of these 3 geopolitical zones do you think is most likely to seek 'one Nigeria' with the North?

That zone is the one that is against the cause of Southern Nigeria.

piece of junk..What is the southern cause and you're spewing trash....What is the southern cause? Where is it documented? Who drew up a southern cause? When did it happen? And Most importantly, how did the SW betray the cause, that's if there's any cause?
Please, try again. Shock me and say something intelligent.

zendy:


You pretty much saying what Im saying without knowing it. Dont you get it? If Southern Nigeria is SW/SE/SS, guess the one who is most likely to seek a political union with the North? Bare in mind that the North seeks political and economic domination of Nigeria. It is because of them that true federalism, resource control and fiscal responsibility is never coming back.

That zone in the south who are likely to help them by perpetually seeking unity with them, they are the weak link in the south.

Di's they seek unity with them in 2011? What trash are you spewing? What happened to the "southern cause" between year 2010 - 2015?

Ioannes:
It's not the North that is bombing pipelines in the Niger Delta region.

It's no the North that is collecting the FG allocations to the Southern states and embezzling them.

It's not the North that is giving us a bad name in the international circles for fraud and drug pushing.

Funny enough, the North supplies more than two-thirds of food and livestock that all of Nigeria consumes.

So tell us again, how the North is your problem...

where do we start,

We don't share the same religion

We don't share the same Outlook

We don't have the same language

We don't share the same culture

We believe so much in western education but you don't.

I can go on and on.

[quote author=tribalistseun post=53808083] where do we start,

We don't share the same religion

You don't have to share the same religion to share the same country. Case in point the United States, "home of the brave, and land of the free"
Are you trying to say that everybody in your tribe share the same religion as you?

We don't share the same Outlook

What's that?

We don't have the same language

You don't mind sharing the same country with Ijaw, Urhobo, Itshekiri and other South south ethnic groups who don't speak your language, because of the crude oil found in their land I guess.

We don't share the same culture

Same as above.

We believe so much in western education but you don't.

I don't? Really? I guess a Masters degree in Architecture isn't western education or is it?

I can go on and on.

Don't bother. You still haven't told us how all these points you have listed translate to the Northerners being the problem of the South.

ColonelDrake:
I met a friend today who didn't believe in restructuring..After just a few minute discussion with him, he embraced it..
Imagine resources that would have otherwise gone into development are used to fight insurgency in the North..Really wish North can stay on their own and let them use their groundnut money to clean their boko haram mess. Why must I be paying for the foolishness of another?
Sighs

Really? Lmfao.

Resources that would otherwise have...

Bros abeg keep kwayet!

When did insurgency begin in this country? 2009

When did we start democracy? 1999

Ten years! Ten good years before boko haram came into life.

And Nigeria started really fighting boko haram in 2015 after the exit of the dumb buffoon.

So tell me again how fighting terrorism hindered the development of Nigeria since 1999?

zendy:


You pretty much saying what Im saying without knowing it. Dont you get it? If Southern Nigeria is SW/SE/SS, guess the one who is most likely to seek a political union with the North? Bare in mind that the North seeks political and economic domination of Nigeria. It is because of them that true federalism, resource control and fiscal responsibility is never coming back.

That zone in the south who are likely to help them by perpetually seeking unity with them, they are the weak link in the south.

Yet, it was a SE man, Alhaji Aguiyi Ironsi, who eradicated Nigeria's federal structure. Sorry, I don't agree with you. Your people want to reap where they have not sown and those on the front lines of the struggle will consider them the usurpers they are. I have absolutely no qualms with working with the best available partner. Mind you, the matter is still too complicated as just the overly simplified SW-collaborating-with-the-north chorus you people are singing here.

Instead of you to form meaningful partnerships, you're busy going to Israel looking for one Jewishness I don't understand. You have left leprosy looking for how to cure common heat rash, not even ringworm.

Let me leave you with the words of Sir Michael Opara, former Premier of the Eastern Region, "we picked Balewa because we thought he could be easily controlled being a Hausa man." This was him speaking about Zik picking Balewa over Awolowo, even though Awolowo didn't mind being second fiddle as far as it benefitted the common man. Don't also forget Alex Ekwueme was VP to Shagari. So, next time you want to revise history, and talk about SW collaborating with the north remember the few examples above and try it with people who aren't properly educated, not people like us. You people are now shouting Biafra because your calculations blew up in your face and you shown out for the inferior strategists that you are. As such, no serious-minded people will take you seriously.

I have just shown you that in politics, anybody will work with anybody as far as it furthers their own political agenda. If you like, continue lying to yourself.

Ioannes:


Really? Lmfao.

Resources that would otherwise have...

Bros abeg keep kwayet!

When did insurgency begin in this country? 2009

When did we start democracy? 1999

Ten years! Ten good years before boko haram came into life.

And Nigeria started really fighting boko haram in 2015 after the exit of the dumb buffoon.

So tell me again how fighting terrorism hindered the development of Nigeria since 1999?

Then why are you freakingscared to the shit when restructuring is mentioned? The word sends a shock through your spine. Who ever said fighting Boko Haram developed the development of Nigeria. You have very serious comprehension issues. I wrote that resources that would have otherwise be put into good use is being used to fight insurgency in the north. Resources from the south is still going to be extended to develop your foolish and unproductive regions after bombing yourselves to smithereens foe your useless and fu..cling Allah who is to lame and incapacitated to fight his battles but rely on dummies like you to carry out his heinous acts.

Let's restructure the damn country and go fu..cking bomb yourselves in your respective regions as Allah commanded.

fools and barbarians dragging Nigeria backward with their useless primitive lifestyle and bastardized value system since amalgamation.

Timbuktuo:


Yet, it was a SE man who eradicated Nigeria's federal structure. Sorry, I don't agree with you. Your people want to reap where get have not sown and those on the front lines of the struggle will consider them they usurpers they are. I have absolutely no qualms with working with the best available partner. Mind you, the matter is still too complicated as just the overly simplified SW-collaborating-with-the-north chorus you people are singing here.

Instead of you to form meaningful partnerships, you're busy going to Israel looking for one Jewishness I don't understand. You have left leprosy looking for how to cure common heat rash, not even ringworm.

Let me leave you with the words of Sir Michael Opera, former Premier of the Eastern Region, "we picked Balewa because we thought he could be easily controlled being a Hausa man." This was him speaking about Zik picking Balewa over Awolowo, even though Awolowo didn't mind being second fiddle as far as it benefitted the common man. Don't also forget Alex Ekwueme's was VP to Shagari. So, next time you want to revise history, try it with people who aren't properly educated, not people like us. You people are now shouting Biafra because your calculations blew up in your face and you shown out for the inferior strategists that you are. As such, nobody serious-minded people will take you seriously.

I have just shown you that in politics, anybody will work with anybody as far as it furthers their own political agenda. If you like, continue lying to yourself.

Zendy, I hope this post hasn't send your running to take cover with your tails tucked in between your akpu legs. Come and debunk this if you can.

ColonelDrake:


Then why are you freakingscared to the shit when restructuring is mentioned? The word sends a shock through your spine. Who ever said fighting Boko Haram developed the development of Nigeria. You have very serious comprehension issues. I wrote that resources that would have otherwise be put into good use is being used to fight insurgency in the north. Resources from the south is still going to be extended to develop your foolish and unproductive regions after bombing yourselves to smithereens foe your useless and fu..cling Allah who is to lame and incapacitated to fight his battles but rely on dummies like you to carry out his heinous acts.

Let's restructure the damn country and go fu..cking bomb yourselves in your respective regions as Allah commanded.

fools and barbarians dragging Nigeria backward with their useless primitive lifestyle and bastardized value system since amalgamation.

The reason why you're ranting isn't very clear to me.

1. I am full blooded Yoruba from Ondo egin.

2. I absolutely absolutely support restructuring which I believe is the way forward for this country.

3. The Northerners you so much love to vilify are not your problem. 80% of them don't even know you exist. In fact some of those we administered vaccinations to when I was serving didn't understand the concept of "country". They didn't know they belonged to one country called Nigeria. Their farming is their life. And you're there giving yourself Hbp over them? Lol.

4. You say the country spends scarce resources to fight boko haram, how about the scarce resources used to fight Niger Delta militants who made the resources scarce in the first place by blowing up pipelines. Hypocrite!

Their lifestyle may be backward and primitive to you but they are obviously happier than you. You are worked up over them, they don't even know you exist.

It is their life. Besides, not all Northerners are Moslems, there are also Northern Christians. I know, because I've lived among them. But you have probably never stepped out of the state in which you were born, so you only know what you've read from the children of hate on this forum. So I don't blame you.

5. You talk about resources from the south like a broken record that keeps repeating over a scratched surface. You're not ashamed. People talking about "their" resources like it was their forefathers that put the resources in the ground.
What productive stuff do you do in the south apart from "your resources".

Nansense. You would even think they had the technological know-how to pull the resources from the ground and put to good use. Abegi.

There are countries with no natural resources and they are way way ahead of the entire continent.

I wonder what kind of generation of youths Nigeria is breeding for God's sake! Nigeria's future looks really bleak indeed.

Ioannes:


The reason why you're ranting isn't very clear to me.

1. I am full blooded Yoruba from Ondo egin.

2. I absolutely absolutely support restructuring which I believe is the way forward for this country.

3. The Northerners you so much love to vilify are not your problem. 80% of them don't even know you exist. In fact some of those we administered vaccinations to when I was serving didn't understand the concept of "country". They didn't know they belonged to one country called Nigeria. Their farming is their life. And you're there giving yourself Hbp over them? Lol.

4. You say the country spends scarce resources to fight boko haram, how about the scarce resources used to fight Niger Delta militants who made the resources scarce in the first place by blowing up pipelines. Hypocrite!

Their lifestyle may be backward and primitive to you but they are obviously happier than you. You are worked up over them, they don't even know you exist.

It is their life. Besides, not all Northerners are Moslems, there are also Northern Christians. I know, because I've lived among them. But you have probably never stepped out of the state in which you were born, so you only know what you've read from the children of hate on this forum. So I don't blame you.

5. You talk about resources from the south like a broken record that keeps repeating over a scratched surface. You're not ashamed. People talking about "their" resources like it was their forefathers that put the resources in the ground.
What productive stuff do you do in the south apart from "your resources".

Nansense. You would even think they had the technological know-how to pull the resources from the ground and put to good use. Abegi.

There are countries with no natural resources and they are way way ahead of the entire continent.

I wonder what kind of generation of youths Nigeria is breeding for God's sake! Nigeria's future looks really bleak indeed.

Fu..ck your Nigeria and whatever you represent. Shameless lot.. We know how much the Niger delta brings to the table...and yes, they don't wrap bombs round their body destroying lives. They're willing to negotiate and all want they demand for is very simple. If not for the hypocritical federal government who lacks tact and diplomacy tackling the issues in the Niger delta...Osinbanjo has only taken over for few days, and everyone could feel the fresh air and peace in the Niger delta...

What da hell is borno bringing to the table? Even, if the militants destroy infrastructures, it isn't it safe to restructure the company and let everyone go destroy their region as they deem fit... With all the attacks, not one single life has been taken..And it is their fu..cking resources. They don't belong to you.. Why must they share the oil proceeds with every dick and Harry? You bomb your region and you still expect to take money from the Niger delta to rehabilitate your area...


I don't fuccking care if you're a Yoruba...You must one of those tattered Yoruba Moslems with unkempt beards...I know your type. Your are a disgrace to every reasonable Yoruba..I wish we Christians can be isolated from you Yoruba Moslem demons. We want you to be reunited with your fellow Islamic blood suckers in the north. Trust me I really crave that...

Same afonja kwaran idiot who betrayed his brothers to Alimi...May god punish all you Yoruba Islamic terrorist. I hate you guys like mad.. give birth uncontrollably, we now have Yoruba almajiris, thanks to you devilish religion. Poverty abounds everywhere in the SW cos of Islam..jeez

ColonelDrake:

Fu..ck your Nigeria and whatever you represent. Shameless lot.. We know how much the Niger delta brings to the table...and yes, they don't wrap bombs round their body destroying lives. They're willing to negotiate and all want they demand for is very simple. If not for the hypocritical federal government who lacks tact and diplomacy tackling the issues in the Niger delta...Osinbanjo has only taken over for few days, and everyone could feel the fresh air and peace in the Niger delta...

What da hell is borno bringing to the table? Even, if the militants destroy infrastructures, it isn't it safe to restructure the company and let everyone go destroy their region as they deem fit... With all the attacks, not one single life has been taken..And it is their fu..cking resources. They don't belong to you.. Why must they share the oil proceeds with every dick and Harry? You bomb your region and you still expect to take money from the Niger delta to rehabilitate your area...


I don't fuccking care if you're a Yoruba...You must one of those tattered Yoruba Moslems with unkempt beards...I know your type. Your are a disgrace to every reasonable Yoruba..I wish we Christians can be isolated from you Yoruba Moslem demons. We want you to be reunited with your fellow Islamic blood suckers in the north. Trust me I really crave that...

Same afonja kwaran idiot who betrayed his brothers to Alimi...May god punish all you Yoruba Islamic terrorist. I hate you guys like mad.. give birth uncontrollably, we now have Yoruba almajiris, thanks to you devilish religion. Poverty abounds everywhere in the SW cos of Islam..jeez

And here I was thinking I was speaking with a reasonable human being with complete gray matter between his ears. Chai... E pain me ooo. The 3 minutes I used to type that long epistle. It won't happen again. Bye. Enjoy your miserable and frustrated life.

Ioannes:


And here I was thinking I was speaking with a reasonable human being with complete gray matter between his ears. Chai... E pain me ooo. The 3 minutes I used to type that long epistle. It won't happen again. Bye. Enjoy your miserable and frustrated life.

The 3 minute you used to defend and justify your blood sucking Fulani master you mean.. You'll be forever be a slave to the Islamic caliphate..
Primitive cannibals with no iota of common sense and empathy in them order than carrying out the orders of their incompetent blood thirsty Allah.

Get away from here and go prepare explosives as usual...

ColonelDrake:

The 3 minute you used to defend and justify your blood sucking Fulani master you mean.. You'll be forever be a slave to the Islamic caliphate..
Primitive cannibals with no iota of common sense and empathy in them order than carrying out the orders of their incompetent blood thirsty Allah.

Get away from here and go prepare explosives as usual...

Move along, kiddo. I'm through with you.

ColonelDrake:

piece of junk..What is the southern cause and you're spewing trash....What is the southern cause? Where is it documented? Who drew up a southern cause? When did it happen? And Most importantly, how did the SW betray the cause, that's if there's any cause?
Please, try again. Shock me and say something intelligent.

So the unity in seeking a power shift to the south in 1998 was a ruse, no wonder people like Azikiwe described certain people as double headed snakes, the hand over across the Niger which necessitated some igbo like chima ubani, polycarp Nwite, Chris Anyanwu and Olisa Agbakogba to put their lives on the line for the presidency of Abiola that has no bearing with the east.


Just last week a southern governors wife meeting was held in umuahia of all places, a pdp state, the meeting which is not only misplaced but uncalled for never held during Goodluck Jonathan regime has been invented in the eve of another June 12 scenario by persons who think they are clever

Every you have said in this thread is right. Just that I wud hv preferred u say it to enlighten the north rather than castigating them

kettykin:


So the unity in seeking a power shift to the south in 1998 was a ruse, no wonder people like Azikiwe described certain people as double headed snakes, the hand over across the Niger which necessitated some igbo like chima ubani, polycarp Nwite, Chris Anyanwu and Olisa Agbakogba to put their lives on the line for the presidency of Abiola that has no bearing with the east.


Just last week a southern governors wife meeting was held in umuahia of all places, a pdp state, the meeting which is not only misplaced but uncalled for never held during Goodluck Jonathan regime has been invented in the eve of another June 12 scenario by persons who think they are clever

What da fckk are you talking about dickhead? What unity? The unity you talk about in your head. Your incoherent write up, I don't seem to get. What is my business with the meetings of the southern governors? Who dem epp? Who you epp?
What is the southern cause? You have failed to answer this question. Stop prevaricating. I ain't interested in your incoherent barks. What is the southern cause in simple and concise term? Your Pentium 1 brain would be able to get this simple question.

Ioannes:


Move along, kiddo. I'm through with you.

Bounce Islamic terrorist.. I'm not like the typical coward Christians who take bullshits. Show your Islamic skull in my face and I will crush it to pieces.. I suffer Islamic terrorists like you gladly

ColonelDrake:

What da fckk are you talking about dickhead? What unity? The unity you talk about in your head. Your incoherent write up, I don't seem to get. What is my business with the meetings of the southern governors? Who dem epp? Who you epp?
What is the southern cause? You have failed to answer this question. Stop prevaricating. I ain't interested in your incoherent barks. What is the southern cause in simple and concise term? Your Pentium 1 brain would be able to get this simple question.

Ok meanwhile congratulations for breaking nairaland rules by calling me dick head, I hope the mods will not show nepotism or bias in this case

kettykin:


Ok meanwhile congratulations for breaking nairaland rules by calling me dick head, I hope the mods will not show nepotism or bias in this case

Hypocrite...You threw subtle insults at a tribe, tagging them two-faced..Now, the same is returned to you in equal measure, and you're crying foul...Used to the ban.. All I need do is to log on with my second account.

ColonelDrake:

Hypocrite...You threw subtle insults at a tribe, tagging them two-faced..Now, the same is returned to you in equal measure, and you're crying foul...Used to the ban.. All I need do is to log on with my second account.

MODS please do the needful, Mynd44 and Lalastilala this call is for you. Please let nairaland.com be sanitised for once

kettykin:

Go and die

ColonelDrake:

Zendy, I hope this post hasn't send your running to take cover with your tails tucked in between your akpu legs. Come and debunk this if you can.

Not at all. First, Agu-Iyi Ironsi never eradicated the federal structure. Ironsi met four regions when he came in and he left 4 Regions when he went out. Contrast that to Gowon who met 4 Regions just like Ironsi but left over 12 states when he left. Gowon and his Northern goons singlehandedly destroyed the federal structure if Nigeria with the tacit support of the Western Region to the detriment of the South

So this tread later turned to a igbo and yorouba bashing tread.....

That is it... Too much sense no good for body....

That's why an illiterate will easily lead u cos of I too know yet u no fit challenge the power that be...

Only fighting ur fellow southerners

We yoruba muslims are ready to agree with whatever the north does. They are the best rulers, anyhow they rule us is the best.

If they don't want us to develop in 200 years we must agree with them and wait for 500 years. They Islamized us so we should be grateful. Masha Allah!