If Biafra referendum was held in a year right before presidential election would it be successful? The referendum needs simple majority to win. Only residents are allowed to participate. Since there's no opinion polls currently it's hard to guess. If given other options would they vote differently for semi-autonous status, complete independence or staying in federal Republic of Nigeria.

Comparing biafra independence movements to European independence movements it seem later still in infancy. The political parties for independence has not won any seats in State or National Assembly. Current politician haven't given any lip service to idea. As compared to Scotland and Catalonia.

Scottish Independence had been decades in making and failed even after its successes. Scottish National Party were able to win seats in Westminster. Then form own separate Scottish parliament (devolution).

Next Catalan independence has been successfully in spite of Spanish courts ruling. The 2014 referendum had 2 simple questions. Do you want Catalonia to become a State?" and (if yes) "Do you want this State to be independent? Yes Yes won by 81% with 42% voter turnout.

Biafran independence has a 2 political parties like MASSOP, BCP. Neither have won any seats currently. If they aren't popular enough to get seat at table how popular could movements really be?

If the referendum was held what would be asked. Do you want independent Biafra or remains in Nigeria? Maybe they want more autonomy. It's all necessary to know.

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_independence

https://www.google.com/amp/uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKBREA131C120140204?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_independence

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_separatist_movements_in_Africa

Update:

I would like to admit the movement is strong than I ounce believed. I saw this due to the Senator that helped Kanu get bail. I still wound about rest if SE politicians and future over all political movement though. I'll be watching to see how rest if trial turns out.

I'm waiting afonja comments for darimg to ask simple question. Btw mods don't ban or remove topic not breaking any rules.

Just a disclosure: I don't personally care for Biafra. I do believe in self determination though. I think Nigeria could work well with well thought our reforms and rule of law.

Ps: just read first two paragraphs to get gist. It's sort of long but necessary.

Judging by anecdotal evidence (meaning word of mouth as opposed to statistical data) self determination is quite popular with Ndigbo.

Most people from the South East genuinely DO NOT want to be a part of Nigeria .

The problem with them is that they're waiting for outsiders (like Israel and America) to do the fighting for them.

Onechancearmy:
Judging by anecdotal evidence (meaning word of mouth as opposed to statistical data) self determination is quite popular with Ndigbo.

Most people from the South East genuinely DO NOT want to be a part of Nigeria .

The problem with them is that they're waiting for outsiders (like Israel and America) to do the fighting for them.

Wait! Where did you get that theory of waiting on America and Israel? They've been selling project to enjoy world acceptance, just like the Palestinians.

kernel501:


Wait! Where did you get that theory of waiting on America and Israel? They've been selling project to enjoy world acceptance, just like the Palestinians.

If you have ever spent time with any IPOB member they are always talking about how Igbo's are descendants of Israel and they're always making up stories about Donald Trump recognizing the existence of Biafra.

Onechancearmy:
Judging by anecdotal evidence (meaning word of mouth as opposed to statistical data) self determination is quite popular with Ndigbo.

Most people from the South East genuinely DO NOT want to be a part of Nigeria .

The problem with them is that they're waiting for outsiders (like Israel and America) to do the fighting for them.

Do you have any idea why they don't vote for these separatist parties or politicians in NDigbo or SE? It seem more like social media buzz or parlor talk til they do. Nigerian government has nothing to fear or respond to til then.

Obviously the outside world wont force Nigeria to hold referendum. If Nigeria was smart they wouldn't be so heavy handed giving the opposition ammo to criticise them with.

To be honest, I feel nothing but pity for you lots.. some of you will think it's envy or fear of losing igbos but there's seriously nothing to envy about you guys.

You people have nothing to sustain that region in the event of breakup. The SS that ya'll think will go with you have right to decide what they want and from all indices, they are not interested in biafra. Wike confirmed this

you people will be so poor in that region that you will end up eating yourselves with the nutrients rich ugwu leaves all over the place

Obviously we don't think alike.. igbos look in one direction and go not minding the possible outcomes and how it will favour them.. something yorubas and the North don't have
so you see why they are always the odd ones out in everything

Onechancearmy:


If you have ever spent time with any IPOB member they are always talking about how Igbo's are descendants of Israel and they're always making up stories about Donald Trump recognizing the existence of Biafra.

If Hausas are proud of there Arabian heritage, please what's wrong about that? Have you seen Igbos dispute the origin of any tribe?,we don't care.

I dey come

I know that some people will not like this

check it out

Opakan2:
To be honest, I feel nothing but pity for you lots.. some of you will think it's envy or fear of losing igbos but there's seriously nothing to envy about you guys.

You people have nothing to sustain that region in the event of breakup. The SS that ya'll think will go with you have right to decide what they want and from all indices, they are not interested in biafra. Wike confirmed this

you people will be so poor in that region that you will end up eating yourselves with the nutrients rich ugwu leaves all over the place

Obviously we don't think alike.. igbos look in one direction and go not minding the possible outcomes and how it will favour them.. something yorubas and the North don't have
so you see why they are always the odd ones out in everything

Lol! Crying more than the bereaved.

OP, MASSOB is not a political party, likewise IPOB and other groups leading Igbo self determination.

How popular is desire for self determination amongst the Igbo population? Well, only referendum will give you that result, and we all know what the result of that referendum would be, if we be truly honest with ourselves, just as Gowon knew what the result of such referendum would have yielded in 1968 and outrightly rejected it.

Btw, OP.
I noticed that you have been carrying Igbo/Biafran case like gala everywhere on NL.
I'd advise you watch it. Those Who do such always end up bitter,and some had even taken their own life.

I'm sure you have your own ethnic group, focus on them and how to advance their lots in this colonial entity, and leave Igbos to their own whims and caprices, but Of course, like I had learnt, most Nigerian people/groups commonly feel that the only way to better the lots of their own people, is by being on Igbo case 24-7, so I wouldn't be surprised if you are the same.

Igboid:
Btw, OP.
I noticed that you have been carrying Igbo/Biafran case like gala everywhere on NL.
I'd advise you watch it. Before Who do such always end up bitter,and some had even taken their own life.

I'm sure you have your own ethnic group, focus on them and how to advance their lots in this colonial entity, and leave Igbos to their own whims and caprices, but Of course, like I had learnt, most Nigerian people commonly feel that the only way to better the lots of their own people, is by being on Igbo case 24-7, so I wouldn't be surprised if you are the same.

Lol I do already focus on my state Akwa Ibom. Thanks for advice. Now focus on getting an actual movement going like Europeans independence movements. Nobody going to hold referendum for you. If you can nots get governments in any state to actually talk about it. You have only a fantasy.

Nobody on your case you guys hop on every thread crying about marginalization or wanting to leave zoo. In reality haven't taken actual steps political steps since civil war to do so.

Like I said biafra independence is in infancy still mere fridge unless you can win any seats in State or National Assembly.

[quote author=Topend post=53864006]check it out[/quote
TRASH

kernel501:


If Hausas are proud of there Arabian heritage, please what's wrong about that? Have you seen Igbos dispute the origin of any tribe?,we don't care.

It's a sign of inferiority complex. Hausas are not Arabs and Igbo's are not Jews. They are both Africans.

Blue3k:
I'm waiting afonja comments for darimg to ask simple question. Btw mods don't ban or remove topic not breaking any rules.

Just a disclosure: I don't personally care for Biafra. I do believe in self determination though. I think Nigeria could work well with well thought our reforms and rule of law.

Ps: just read first two paragraphs to get gist. It's sort of long but necessary.

Don't you just love it when nairaland mods are reminded on what not to do. Like they can't think for themselves?

Please OP what do you mean by MASSOP and BCP?

as popular as America

Nobody on your case you guys hop on every thread crying about marginalization or wanting to leave zoo. In reality haven't taken actual steps political steps since civil war to do so.

Like I said biafra independence is in infancy still mere fridge unless you can win any seats in State or nNational Assembly.


This is the point I'm talking about. Obsession with Igbo case.
How exactly is it any of your concern as an Akwa Ibom man you "claimed" to be, if Ndiigbo cry or doesn't cry about marginalization in the Nigerian state?
Are you through addressing the issues going on in Akwa Ibom to start meddling in Igbo case, or how many times have you seen Igbos meddling into your Akwaibom issue?
Even Akpabio lamented Of the marginalization of the entire defunct Eastern region post civil war, when Awo and his Arewa partners hijacked the 3Rs meant for the East and took it to Lagos.

Whether Biafra is still in infancy or old age is none of your business, if you don't consider yourself a Biafran.
Biafran self determination groups had chosen their own route to go about accomplishing their set objectives, it's not in your place as a non-Biafran to support, criticize, condemn our methods, after all we know that irrespective of the method we choose, Nigerians like you will never feel comfortable with our self determination movement.

Nobody on your case you guys hop on every thread crying about marginalization or wanting to leave zoo. In reality haven't taken actual steps political steps since civil war to do so.

Like I said biafra independence is in infancy still mere fridge unless you can win any seats in State or nNational Assembly.


This is the point I'm talking about. Obsession with Igbo case.
How exactly is it any of your concern as an Akwa Ibom man you "claimed" to be, if Ndiigbo cry or doesn't cry about marginalization in the Nigerian state?
Are you through addressing the issues going on in Akwa Ibom to start meddling in Igbo case, or how many times have you seen Igbos meddling into your Akwaibom issue?
Even Akpabio lamented Of the marginalization of the entire defunct Eastern region post civil war, when Awo and his Arewa partners hijacked the 3Rs meant for the East and took it to Lagos.

Whether Biafra is still in infancy or old age is none of your business, if you don't consider yourself a Biafran.
Biafran self determination groups had chosen their own route to go about accomplishing their set objectives, it's not in your place as a non-Biafran to support, criticize, condemn our methods, after all we know that irrespective of the method we choose, Nigerians like you will never feel comfortable with our self determination movement. So why the pretense?

Etogist:
Please OP what do you mean by MASSOP and BCP?

These are the political parties in support for Biafran Independence. I sourced this information from Wikipedia.

Movement for the Actualization of the Sovereign State of Biafra is MASSOB. Biafran Congress Party is BCP.

My mistake if I put a P instead of B. I'll go correct it.

Link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_separatist_movements_in_Africa

Igboid:



[s]This is the point I'm talking about. Obsession with Igbo case.
How exactly is it any of your concern as an Akwa Ibom man you "claimed" to be, if Ndiigbo cry or doesn't cry about marginalization in the Nigerian state?
Are you through addressing the issues going on in Akwa Ibom to start meddling in Igbo case, or how many times have you seen Igbos meddling into your Akwaibom issue?
Even Akpabio lamented Of the marginalization of the entire defunct Eastern region post civil war, when Awo and his Arewa partners hijacked the 3Rs meant for the East and took it to Lagos.

Whether Biafra is still in infancy or old age is none of your business, if you don't consider yourself a Biafran.
Biafran self determination groups had chosen their own route to go about accomplishing their set objectives, it's not in your place as a non-Biafran to support, criticize, condemn our methods, after all we know that irrespective of the method we choose, Nigerians like you will never feel comfortable with our self determination movement.[/s] So why the pretense?

I devote 1 topic to you and you start wailing. The pretense is its interesting topic. I'm free to discuss what ever I please just like you free to cry your eyes out. Nobody obsessed with you. You posted multiple times looking for my attention. You are free to leave thread. If you don't want to its ok. Cry some more bump thread for me .

Onechancearmy:


It's a sign of inferiority complex. Hausas are not Arabs and Igbo's are not Jews. They are both Africans.

Claim of Decency doesn't amount to inferiority, example ... Obama claim of Kenyan origin does it amount to inferiority?
Allow people to there believed history.

Blue3k:


I devote 1 topic to you and you start wailing. The pretense is its interesting topic. I'm free to discuss what ever I please just like you free to cry your eyes out. Nobody obsessed with you. You posted multiple times looking for my attention. You are free to leave thread. If you don't want to its ok. Cry some more bump thread for me .

Lol! And the obsession continues!
You will not be allowed to run amok here with unfounded falsehoods. You will as always be put in check, whether you like it or not.

kernel501:


Claim of Decency doesn't amount to inferiority, example ... Obama claim of Kenyan origin does it amount to inferiority?
Allow people to there believed history.

Whether Obama claimed it or not, his father was Kenyan.
Where is the proof that Hausas are Arabs and Igbos are Jews?
It is simply a manifestation of the Blackman's inferiority complex.

Onechancearmy:


Whether Obama claimed it or not, his father was Kenyan.
Where is the proof that Hausas are Arabs and Igbos are Jews?
It is simply a manifestation of the Blackman's inferiority complex.

[/b]No, it is not inferiority complex[b],migration from northern Africa shows that Hausa/Fulani are related to Arabs while Igbos shows similarities of Jewish negro traits which is also found in Ethiopia black Jews. Yoruba on the other side migrated from Sudan.
This is a proven fact from archeological studies.

Onechancearmy:

Whether Obama claimed it or not, his father was Kenyan. Where is the proof that Hausas are Arabs and Igbos are Jews? It is simply a manifestation of the Blackman's inferiority complex.

Please reply me. What are the proofs that Yorubas are decentant of Ooduwa?

mind your business

seriously speaking!

and seriously speaking why are Buhari foot soldiers shooting our comrade and nobody cares seriously

Hehehehe


Nairaland, Facebook and thier village

If a referendum is held in the greater Igbo confederation, by this I mean the 5 Igbo states (excluding the Igalas of Anambra and the Idomas of Enugu states), the Anioma area of Delta, the 6 villages of Igbanke/Igbo Akiri (Umu-oluah,Igbontor,Ake,Olije,Ottah,Idumodin) in Edo state. The Igbos of the lower Benue, the Umu-Ezeokoha people. The Rivers Igbo (Etche, Ahoada, Ndoki, Asa, Ikwerre etc)

I will be shocked if at least 85% do not vote for independence from Nigeria as Biafra.

If the referendum extends to the "proposed" area of Biafra (the SS/SE area excluding Edo state but not Igbanke plus the Igbos of the lower Benue)


I think the percentage would drop but the majority will still vote to leave.