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How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Blue3k(m): 5:50pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
If Biafra referendum was held in a year right before presidential election would it be successful? The referendum needs simple majority to win. Only residents are allowed to participate. Since there's no opinion polls currently it's hard to guess. If given other options would they vote differently for semi-autonous status, complete independence or staying in federal Republic of Nigeria. Comparing biafra independence movements to European independence movements it seem later still in infancy. The political parties for independence has not won any seats in State or National Assembly. Current politician haven't given any lip service to idea. As compared to Scotland and Catalonia. Scottish Independence had been decades in making and failed even after its successes. Scottish National Party were able to win seats in Westminster. Then form own separate Scottish parliament (devolution). Next Catalan independence has been successfully in spite of Spanish courts ruling. The 2014 referendum had 2 simple questions. Do you want Catalonia to become a State?" and (if yes) "Do you want this State to be independent? Yes Yes won by 81% with 42% voter turnout. Biafran independence has a 2 political parties like MASSOP, BCP. Neither have won any seats currently. If they aren't popular enough to get seat at table how popular could movements really be? If the referendum was held what would be asked. Do you want independent Biafra or remains in Nigeria? Maybe they want more autonomy. It's all necessary to know. Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_independence https://www.google.com/amp/uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKBREA131C120140204?client=ms-android-hms-tmobile-us https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_independence https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_separatist_movements_in_Africa Update: I would like to admit the movement is strong than I ounce believed. I saw this due to the Senator that helped Kanu get bail. I still wound about rest if SE politicians and future over all political movement though. I'll be watching to see how rest if trial turns out. 1 Like |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Blue3k(m): 5:55pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
I'm waiting afonja comments ![]() Just a disclosure: I don't personally care for Biafra. I do believe in self determination though. I think Nigeria could work well with well thought our reforms and rule of law. Ps: just read first two paragraphs to get gist. It's sort of long but necessary. 3 Likes |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Onechancearmy(m): 6:11pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
Judging by anecdotal evidence (meaning word of mouth as opposed to statistical data) self determination is quite popular with Ndigbo. Most people from the South East genuinely DO NOT want to be a part of Nigeria . The problem with them is that they're waiting for outsiders (like Israel and America) to do the fighting for them. 8 Likes |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by kernel501: 6:22pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
Onechancearmy: Wait! Where did you get that theory of waiting on America and Israel? They've been selling project to enjoy world acceptance, just like the Palestinians. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Onechancearmy(m): 6:34pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
kernel501: If you have ever spent time with any IPOB member they are always talking about how Igbo's are descendants of Israel and they're always making up stories about Donald Trump recognizing the existence of Biafra. 5 Likes 1 Share
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Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Blue3k(m): 6:46pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
Onechancearmy: Do you have any idea why they don't vote for these separatist parties or politicians in NDigbo or SE? It seem more like social media buzz or parlor talk til they do. Nigerian government has nothing to fear or respond to til then. Obviously the outside world wont force Nigeria to hold referendum. If Nigeria was smart they wouldn't be so heavy handed giving the opposition ammo to criticise them with. 2 Likes |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Opakan2: 6:48pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
To be honest, I feel nothing but pity for you lots.. some of you will think it's envy or fear of losing igbos but there's seriously nothing to envy about you guys. You people have nothing to sustain that region in the event of breakup. The SS that ya'll think will go with you have right to decide what they want and from all indices, they are not interested in biafra. Wike confirmed this you people will be so poor in that region that you will end up eating yourselves with the nutrients rich ugwu leaves all over the place Obviously we don't think alike.. igbos look in one direction and go not minding the possible outcomes and how it will favour them.. something yorubas and the North don't have so you see why they are always the odd ones out in everything 5 Likes |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by kernel501: 6:54pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
Onechancearmy: If Hausas are proud of there Arabian heritage, please what's wrong about that? Have you seen Igbos dispute the origin of any tribe?,we don't care. 14 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by akoko11: 7:02pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
I dey come |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Topend: 7:09pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
I know that some people will not like this |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Topend: 7:10pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
check it out
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Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Igboid: 7:21pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
Opakan2: Lol! Crying more than the bereaved. 13 Likes |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Igboid: 7:25pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
OP, MASSOB is not a political party, likewise IPOB and other groups leading Igbo self determination. How popular is desire for self determination amongst the Igbo population? Well, only referendum will give you that result, and we all know what the result of that referendum would be, if we be truly honest with ourselves, just as Gowon knew what the result of such referendum would have yielded in 1968 and outrightly rejected it. ![]() 10 Likes |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Igboid: 7:30pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
Btw, OP. I noticed that you have been carrying Igbo/Biafran case like gala everywhere on NL. I'd advise you watch it. Those Who do such always end up bitter,and some had even taken their own life. I'm sure you have your own ethnic group, focus on them and how to advance their lots in this colonial entity, and leave Igbos to their own whims and caprices, but Of course, like I had learnt, most Nigerian people/groups commonly feel that the only way to better the lots of their own people, is by being on Igbo case 24-7, so I wouldn't be surprised if you are the same. 12 Likes |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Blue3k(m): 7:37pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
Igboid: Lol I do already focus on my state Akwa Ibom. Thanks for advice. Now focus on getting an actual movement going like Europeans independence movements. Nobody going to hold referendum for you. If you can nots get governments in any state to actually talk about it. You have only a fantasy. Nobody on your case you guys hop on every thread crying about marginalization or wanting to leave zoo. In reality haven't taken actual steps political steps since civil war to do so. Like I said biafra independence is in infancy still mere fridge unless you can win any seats in State or National Assembly. 2 Likes |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Almaiga: 7:40pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
[quote author=Topend post=53864006]check it out[/quote TRASH |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Onechancearmy(m): 7:40pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
kernel501: It's a sign of inferiority complex. Hausas are not Arabs and Igbo's are not Jews. They are both Africans. 3 Likes |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by AlfaSeltzer(m): 7:42pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
Blue3k: Don't you just love it when nairaland mods are reminded on what not to do. Like they can't think for themselves? |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Etogist: 7:47pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
Please OP what do you mean by MASSOP and BCP? |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by anibi9674: 7:52pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
as popular as America |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Igboid: 7:52pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
Nobody on your case you guys hop on every thread crying about marginalization or wanting to leave zoo. In reality haven't taken actual steps political steps since civil war to do so. Like I said biafra independence is in infancy still mere fridge unless you can win any seats in State or nNational Assembly. This is the point I'm talking about. Obsession with Igbo case. How exactly is it any of your concern as an Akwa Ibom man you "claimed" to be, if Ndiigbo cry or doesn't cry about marginalization in the Nigerian state? Are you through addressing the issues going on in Akwa Ibom to start meddling in Igbo case, or how many times have you seen Igbos meddling into your Akwaibom issue? Even Akpabio lamented Of the marginalization of the entire defunct Eastern region post civil war, when Awo and his Arewa partners hijacked the 3Rs meant for the East and took it to Lagos. Whether Biafra is still in infancy or old age is none of your business, if you don't consider yourself a Biafran. Biafran self determination groups had chosen their own route to go about accomplishing their set objectives, it's not in your place as a non-Biafran to support, criticize, condemn our methods, after all we know that irrespective of the method we choose, Nigerians like you will never feel comfortable with our self determination movement. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Igboid: 7:53pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
Nobody on your case you guys hop on every thread crying about marginalization or wanting to leave zoo. In reality haven't taken actual steps political steps since civil war to do so. Like I said biafra independence is in infancy still mere fridge unless you can win any seats in State or nNational Assembly. This is the point I'm talking about. Obsession with Igbo case. How exactly is it any of your concern as an Akwa Ibom man you "claimed" to be, if Ndiigbo cry or doesn't cry about marginalization in the Nigerian state? Are you through addressing the issues going on in Akwa Ibom to start meddling in Igbo case, or how many times have you seen Igbos meddling into your Akwaibom issue? Even Akpabio lamented Of the marginalization of the entire defunct Eastern region post civil war, when Awo and his Arewa partners hijacked the 3Rs meant for the East and took it to Lagos. Whether Biafra is still in infancy or old age is none of your business, if you don't consider yourself a Biafran. Biafran self determination groups had chosen their own route to go about accomplishing their set objectives, it's not in your place as a non-Biafran to support, criticize, condemn our methods, after all we know that irrespective of the method we choose, Nigerians like you will never feel comfortable with our self determination movement. So why the pretense? 5 Likes |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Blue3k(m): 7:55pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
Etogist: These are the political parties in support for Biafran Independence. I sourced this information from Wikipedia. Movement for the Actualization of the Sovereign State of Biafra is MASSOB. Biafran Congress Party is BCP. My mistake if I put a P instead of B. I'll go correct it. Link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_separatist_movements_in_Africa |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Blue3k(m): 8:01pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
Igboid: I devote 1 topic to you and you start wailing. The pretense is its interesting topic. I'm free to discuss what ever I please just like you free to cry your eyes out. Nobody obsessed with you. You posted multiple times looking for my attention. You are free to leave thread. If you don't want to its ok. Cry some more bump thread for me ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by kernel501: 8:03pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
Onechancearmy: Claim of Decency doesn't amount to inferiority, example ... Obama claim of Kenyan origin does it amount to inferiority? Allow people to there believed history. 3 Likes |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Igboid: 8:06pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
Blue3k: Lol! And the obsession continues! ![]() You will not be allowed to run amok here with unfounded falsehoods. You will as always be put in check, whether you like it or not. ![]() 7 Likes |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Onechancearmy(m): 8:21pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
kernel501: Whether Obama claimed it or not, his father was Kenyan. Where is the proof that Hausas are Arabs and Igbos are Jews? It is simply a manifestation of the Blackman's inferiority complex. 3 Likes |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by Odingo1: 8:26pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
Onechancearmy:[/b]No, it is not inferiority complex[b],migration from northern Africa shows that Hausa/Fulani are related to Arabs while Igbos shows similarities of Jewish negro traits which is also found in Ethiopia black Jews. Yoruba on the other side migrated from Sudan. This is a proven fact from archeological studies. 2 Likes |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by kernel501: 9:17pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
Onechancearmy:Please reply me. What are the proofs that Yorubas are decentant of Ooduwa? |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by IPOB123london: 9:20pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
mind your business seriously speaking! and seriously speaking why are Buhari foot soldiers shooting our comrade and nobody cares seriously 3 Likes |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by GMBuhari: 9:38pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
Hehehehe Nairaland, Facebook and thier village |
Re: How Popular Is Biafran Secession Honestly? by zendy: 10:15pm On Feb 19, 2017 |
If a referendum is held in the greater Igbo confederation, by this I mean the 5 Igbo states (excluding the Igalas of Anambra and the Idomas of Enugu states), the Anioma area of Delta, the 6 villages of Igbanke/Igbo Akiri (Umu-oluah,Igbontor,Ake,Olije,Ottah,Idumodin) in Edo state. The Igbos of the lower Benue, the Umu-Ezeokoha people. The Rivers Igbo (Etche, Ahoada, Ndoki, Asa, Ikwerre etc) I will be shocked if at least 85% do not vote for independence from Nigeria as Biafra. If the referendum extends to the "proposed" area of Biafra (the SS/SE area excluding Edo state but not Igbanke plus the Igbos of the lower Benue) I think the percentage would drop but the majority will still vote to leave. |
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