Frumentum:


Doesn't look air-droppable. Also looks like it might need a heavy heli like a Chinook to sling it.

ActivateKruger:


Other militaries don't tactically insert their operations... It's not a priority because of their area of operation while others don't have a doctrine nor the research how it it's effectively done.

Frumentum:


And to add to that, what helicopters per type, and quantities if someone has the info does the Nigerian military (all arms of service) actually operate? ie Light Utility; medium; naval; heavy.

Frumentum:

Until the day their SF needs the capability.

jakeporeshenko:

Compiling this is one hell a task so I wouldn't bother guessing number of units if I were you.

But off the top of my head:
air Force : AW109, A101, Ec135, super puma, Mi35/Mi35p, Mi17/Mi8 and some bell helicopters .... continue on the next post

overhypedsteve:
we ve used more Guided missiles in our COIN operations than any Nation in SSA have used for the same role. I know you know that, but you just want to defend the present position of your Government in purchasing the obsolete and civilian purpose built Aircraft for COIN. after all we introduced the use of guided missiles in the African Counter Insurgency battle theatres. The AR1 missile is a Chinese derivation of the American Hellfire Missile and we have been using them to hunt Terrorists since 2014.

jakeporeshenko:

Yeah that's what I want to know, although I don't think these are the among the 6 units ordered. I only know one was donated by NEMA.

Frumentum:


And to add to that, what helicopters per type, and quantities if someone has the info does the Nigerian military (all arms of service) actually operate? ie Light Utility; medium; naval; heavy.

jln115:

Im guessing SSA excludes South Africa, Angola and possibly even Zimbabwe?

Frumentum:


Agugugubug Alert!!!*



*For those who don't know, awarded to someone making assertions without regard to facts.

overhypedsteve:

we introduced the use of guided missiles into the African Counter terrorist scene in 2014 with our CH3, and in 2015 we actually saw the first footage of this weapons being fielded.

Henry240:


If these are among the ones delivered, they are then the one the Air Force weaponized in Nigeria. However, there is a photo i have and have shared multiple times online, it shows that large Ukrainian or Russian cargo freight aircraft delivering an MI-17.

What MI-17 then is that?

Henry240:


Let's let this thing go, it's not worth the argument. Your points are actual fact and valid, but let's let it go.

Henry240:


Let's let this thing go, it's not worth the argument. Your points are actual fact and valid, but let's let it go.

overhypedsteve:

we introduced the use of guided missiles into the African Counter terrorist scene in 2014 with our CH3, and in 2015 we actually saw the first footage of this weapons being fielded.

jln115:

So what did South African and Angolan forces use in the Border War....guided rocks? Don't say he is posting facts when in actual fact he's typing B.S

overhypedsteve:
are they presently fighting any Counter terrorist War? No. please cite instances where this countries have fielded guided missiles in a Counter Insurgency operation.

overhypedsteve:
I will let it go. after all its not my country that would be supporting it's troops with fertilizer spraying planes.

Henry240:


Like I've said previously in this matter, I'm not interested in this argument.

Frumentum:
Speaking of Denel in the Middle East, someone in the armed forces of the UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Iraq has some answering to do. Denel weapons sold to them keep ending up with the Kurdish peshmerga in Kurdistan. First the Y3 and now the PAW-20 with the EAHK CT Unit, a Kurdistan Special Operations unit. I must add I'm a great admirer of the Kurds and their cause and at least with them, these weapons will be put to proper use.

PIC 1: the PAW-20; and

PIC 2: the earlier pic of the Y3.

jakeporeshenko:

Jajajjaa that's true, I believe we're now on the same page.
So one unit handed over by NEMA and the other delivered with the exact same camo scheme from an unknown source.
Had that picture on my phone but I forgot about the whole story. Dakingsman sent it to me during one of our convos... good days

overhypedsteve:
we ve used more Guided missiles in our COIN operations than any Nation in SSA have used for the same role. I know you know that, but you just want to defend the present position of your Government in purchasing the obsolete and civilian purpose built Aircraft for COIN. after all we introduced the use of guided missiles in the African Counter Insurgency battle theatres. The AR1 missile is a Chinese derivation of the American Hellfire Missile and we have been using them to hunt Terrorists since 2014.

Henry240:


This is it!

Come to think of it, where is Dakingsman, he used to post regularly here. Dakingsman, I command thee, show thy self here!

Where is that helicopter from, is it from the 6 x units ordered? I really want to know. Only Airborne360 might be able to answer, however, he is not talking. Even the MI-35m request, hasn't yet been fulfilled.

Hopefully, we would know soon enough.

AMISOM soldiers from the Ethiopian National Defence Forces mount a guard of honor for AMISOM Force Commander Lt. Gen. Osman Noor Soubagleh during a visit to Baidoa, Somalia on February 19, 2017. AMISOM Photo/Abdikarim Mohamed

The African Union Mission in Somalia (AMISOM) Force Commander Lt. Gen. Osman Noor Soubagleh and other senior officers tour AMISOM soldiers from the Ethiopian National Defence forces in Baidoa Somalia during a visit to the area, on February 19, 2017. AMISOM Photo/Abdikarim Mohamed

jln115:

So what do you think the SADF was using back in the Border war?

overhypedsteve:
you see, I have tried to find one reliable link that backs the fact that the SADF used guided missiles during the Border wars and I have seen none, maybe you could just help me with one or two.
https://www.sa-soldier.com/data/07-SADF-equipment/ (list of equipments used in the border wars, no guided missile listed)