goingape1:
I can tell you one!

if you read job he talk about gravity and the sphericity of the earth.

not more than a century ago scientists discovered that the earth is spherical in shape.

many people believe that the earth was flat

drnoel:


Pls this is a discussion not a competition between Christianity and Islam. As far as am concerned everyone can keep their belief, it means nothing to me at the long run. Whats important it that the truth is not watered down by religion and that known facts remain so and not adulterated.

femi4:
but Jesus is not a man now

MakeWeTalk:
Islam and their attempt to be like Christians.

Please show us meaningful miracles like raising the dead, that Jesus did.

Matthew 9
18 While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live.

24 He said unto them, Give place: for the maid is not dead, but sleepeth. And they laughed him to scorn.

25 But when the people were put forth, he went in, and took her by the hand, and the maid arose.

26 And the fame hereof went abroad into all that land.

Until a muslim can do this, I will follow Jesus that raises the dead.

I mean Jesus is alive and mohammed is dead, if allah cannot keep mohammed alive but Jesus is alive;
please explain why I should leave Jesus that is alive and even raises the dead to follow another islam that cannot raise the dead.

they can't even keep mohammed alive let alone raise the dead.

MakeWeTalk:
Islam and their attempt to be like Christians.

Please show us meaningful miracles like raising the dead, that Jesus did.

Matthew 9
18 While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live.

24 He said unto them, Give place: for the maid is not dead, but sleepeth. And they laughed him to scorn.

25 But when the people were put forth, he went in, and took her by the hand, and the maid arose.

26 And the fame hereof went abroad into all that land.

Until a muslim can do this, I will follow Jesus that raises the dead.

I mean Jesus is alive and mohammed is dead, if allah cannot keep mohammed alive but Jesus is alive;
please explain why I should leave Jesus that is alive and even raises the dead to follow another islam that cannot raise the dead.

they can't even keep mohammed alive let alone raise the dead.

jomoh:


You are indeed not only naive but very very very very ignorant and uneducated.


Please Google all the names you mentioned above and learn about their time of existence.


BTW how old do you really think the Quran is?

MakeWeTalk:
Islam and their attempt to be like Christians.

Please show us meaningful miracles like raising the dead, that Jesus did.

Matthew 9
18 While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live.

24 He said unto them, Give place: for the maid is not dead, but sleepeth. And they laughed him to scorn.

25 But when the people were put forth, he went in, and took her by the hand, and the maid arose.

26 And the fame hereof went abroad into all that land.

Until a muslim can do this, I will follow Jesus that raises the dead.

I mean Jesus is alive and mohammed is dead, if allah cannot keep mohammed alive but Jesus is alive;
please explain why I should leave Jesus that is alive and even raises the dead to follow another islam that cannot raise the dead.

they can't even keep mohammed alive let alone raise the dead.

goingape1:
see them forming lie!
most theory and if not many discovery was base on the bible and not Qur'an!

the Qur'an was just a counterfeited copy of the bible, nothing much and nothing less.
the only thing I know the Quran is legitimately unique is that verse which talk about jihad (killing of other people)

sissoko22:

Your problem

drnoel:



Interesting to note. Pls post the chapter and verse. Its not possible that I missed that but am willing to learn everyday. I ask myself though if that is true why didn't Galileo mention it when he made his postulates. Galileo was a believer.

drnoel:


How old do u think the Bible is? Do u know even books older than the Bible and Quran have been found and shown to contain certain postulates in both the Bible and Quran?
Do u even know when Socrates even walked the earth? OMG by ur statement its obvious u are not only naive, ignorant and uneducated as u called me. It is obvious u are just here to mislead people. Please house someone tell this man when Socrates and Pythagoras existed

jomoh:



“Or do they say: “He (Prophet Muhammad) has forged it (this Quran)?” Nay! They believe not! Let them then produce a recitation like it if they are truthful.”

(Quran 52 verses 33-34)

Remind me how many versions of the bible are out there but Allah himself has issued an open challenge to anyone of your ilks over 1400years ago to produce anything close to the Quran but billions of your likes that have existed since then has not been able to take up the challenge.


"We sent not before thee (any messengers) save men(including Jesus christ) whom We inspired from among the folk of the townships - Have they not travelled in the land and seen the nature of the consequence for those who were before them? And verily the abode of the Hereafter, for those who ward off (evil), is best. Have ye then no sense?
Till, when the messengers despaired and thought that they were denied, then came unto them Our help, and whom We would was saved. And Our wrath cannot be warded from the guilty.

In their history verily there is a lesson for men of understanding. It is no invented story but a confirmation of the existing (Scripture/Bible) and a detailed explanation of everything, and a guidance and a mercy for folk who believe. "


(Quran 12 verses 109-111)

This is a confirmation that you people are primary school certificate holders as compared to Islam that has gone one to become a professor.


" And now they reject the truth when it reaches them: but soon shall they learn the reality of what they used to mock at.

See they not how many of those before them We did destroy? Generations We had established on the earth, in strength such as We have not given to you, for whom We poured out rain from the skies in abundance, and gave streams flowing beneath their (feet): yet for their sins We destroyed them, and raised in their wake fresh generations (to succeed them)."

(Quran 6 verses 5-6)

The signs are getting clear in the eyes of the western scientists and professors. You non entity in the dongeon of Africa is here arguing and mocking.

Continue. I pray it doesn't get too late before you realise it.

drnoel:



Interesting to note. Pls post the chapter and verse. Its not possible that I missed that but am willing to learn everyday. I ask myself though if that is true why didn't Galileo mention it when he made his postulates. Galileo was a believer.

jomoh:


So by this, Pythagoras and Socrates are not older than the Bible right?

The Google age states that those two existed before Christ so by your earlier assertion, the bible verse could have been postulated by them before Christ and the writers of the bible could also have copied it.

MakeWeTalk:
Islam and their attempt to be like Christians.

Please show us meaningful miracles like raising the dead, that Jesus did.

Matthew 9
18 While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live.

24 He said unto them, Give place: for the maid is not dead, but sleepeth. And they laughed him to scorn.

25 But when the people were put forth, he went in, and took her by the hand, and the maid arose.

26 And the fame hereof went abroad into all that land.

Until a muslim can do this, I will follow Jesus that raises the dead.

I mean Jesus is alive and mohammed is dead, if allah cannot keep mohammed alive but Jesus is alive;
please explain why I should leave Jesus that is alive and even raises the dead to follow another islam that cannot raise the dead.

they can't even keep mohammed alive let alone raise the dead.

goingape1:
He spreads out the northern skies over empty space; he suspends the earth over nothing.
Job 26:7 NIV
http://bible.com/111/job.26.7.NIV

jomoh:


So pythagoras and Socrates postulated the expansion of the universe? or

their theorem lead to the discovery of the proofs that you talked about over 2000years after their death?

which one are u talking about there because the Quran didn't need any mathematical equation to talk about the expansion of the universe.

drnoel:


Yes to ur second paragraph. I was wondering when u will check ur google, am glad u did. Pythagoras and Socrates are older than both the Bible and Quran.
If u remember my sentence that is why I asked the other writer why Galileo who was a Christian didn't mention that stuff he said about the book of Job.

drnoel:


These men where the first ones to talk intensively about the universe and must of what they said are just copied and replicated by others

Adeoba10:

Kinni Jesus then?

goingape1:
ohh!

child of Ishmaelite! that's where Islam is been gotten from.


we understand you

MakeWeTalk:
Islam and their attempt to be like Christians.

Please show us meaningful miracles like raising the dead, that Jesus did.

Matthew 9
18 While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live.

24 He said unto them, Give place: for the maid is not dead, but sleepeth. And they laughed him to scorn.

25 But when the people were put forth, he went in, and took her by the hand, and the maid arose.

26 And the fame hereof went abroad into all that land.

Until a muslim can do this, I will follow Jesus that raises the dead.

I mean Jesus is alive and mohammed is dead, if allah cannot keep mohammed alive but Jesus is alive;
please explain why I should leave Jesus that is alive and even raises the dead to follow another islam that cannot raise the dead.

they can't even keep mohammed alive let alone raise the dead.

drnoel:


Oh that passage. I do know it and my friend used it to explain a portion of his thesis. It was said that Job made that statement lying on his back in the night under the skies while looking at the skies

RABIUSHILE04:


You're indeed 'going Ape'.

Lols

jomoh:


So by your assertion, what do you think are the chances that Jesus and Muhammad knew about the existence of those guys let alone their works and researches given what we know about them (Jesus being an uneducated capenter's son and Muhammad equally being an uneducated orphan).

BTW do you know the Quran also talked about the conception of pregnancy from sperm level to formation of the foetus.

farouk0403:
Aslm my brothers and sisters in islam, I have a question, according to islam it is believe that there are 7 sky the 8th one is where Al'arsh is, I dont't know whether I get it right or not, I stand to be corrected.
I have seen it so many times in discovery channel and Nat geo the space is just a black space with just the solar system around it, and if move further there is nothing except old aged sun erupting like volcano, it is belief that the sun is there over billions of years according to NASA. I have so many things in my mind but I will stop here, my question is please I need more enlightenment to this controversies to clear my mind.

Thanks in anticipation.

jomoh:


So let me get u right are you saying there is possibility those guys for this inspirations from Pythagoras, Galileo and Socrates?

jomoh:


You are indeed not only naive but very very very very ignorant and uneducated.


Please Google all the names you mentioned above and learn about their time of existence.


BTW how old do you really think the Quran is?