nengibo:

Hmmm piriamapu
[i]Actually Igwe nga is Ikot Abasi also 2nd Opobo sometimes outside the Rivers Opobo. Ikot Abasi means People of God in reference to Arochukwu while Igwe nga means slave/prison abode. It's likely that Aro slave traders were using Ikot Abasi waterside for export of slaves via Bonny and had a cell there.

that's the Ibani translation but

So what's the fuss about? That Igbos have their own different interpretations of same words from Ibani and Ibibio.

Probz:
Ika is Ika. Stop pushing Igbo.

Benin boy are you still here

nengibo:


Lol, an exile land for whom? igwenga doesn't mean exile,. In our Ibani Kingdoms Igwenga or Egwenga means wealth or affluence. therefore in our early historic times, all assets including manillas, houses and even human belonging to any chief or war canoe House were refered to as Igwenga. This gave rise to present Ikot-Abasi in our former Opobo to be called Egwenga by us, as King Jaja ,his chiefs,and European trade partners colonized,conquered and dominated that axis for their numerous trading activities across the Opobo main city state. thus Egwenga of the Akwas became Opobo territory uptill after the Nigeria civil war. "IGWENGA BERE KIKI, FI KIKIAGHA means IF YOU CAN STRUGGLE OR BLOCK WEALTH ISSUES, YOU CAN NOT DO SAME TO DEATH" T.M.O

Hmmmm, are you sure? because of the effect of civil war people are now claiming Igboland and interpreting igbo word to mean another thing.

Who were the 1st settlers in Opobo and what forced them to moved to Opobo before the ijaws came from Sierra Leone to join them?
When the Igbos 1st settled there what was the name they gave the land and what's the meaning?
when king jaja was leaving Bonny for Opobo was it not on an exile mission? not because you were allowed to settle there with them because they wanted to create a kingdom and needed population you named some of the areas in your words and start claiming them today.

One word can mean different things in different language, ENE means antelope in Igbo but mother in Idoma, attah means dryness in Igbo but a head in Igala. The word Aro in Igbo is it the same with the English arrow, the word oligo used by ancient igbo traders to express large wealth is it the same used as prefix in English language.
I won't dispute your Ibani context about the word Igwenga which might be what you interpreted it to be in your language, but who was the first to give the name?

History holds it that ijaw dwellers in Bonny and Opobo came many years after Igbos settled in the land. But come to think of it, why is it that Ijaw and Edo are claiming our rivers and western Igbos while nobody cares to claim Agbo clans in cross river, Igbos in Akwa ibom and Benue states hope it's not because of oil found in western and rivers Igboland?

Abagworo:


Actually Igwe nga is Ikot Abasi also 2nd Opobo sometimes outside the Rivers Opobo. Ikot Abasi means People of God in reference to Arochukwu while Igwe nga means slave/prison abode. It's likely that Aro slave traders were using Ikot Abasi waterside for export of slaves via Bonny and had a cell there.

you are close to what I told him, the word Igwe in Igwenga is pronounced as the word igwe(king) not igwe(iron). Nga undisputedly means prison in Igbo language while slave is ohu.

I am not here to drag any land with any person but truth was be told. He can interpret Igwenga to mean another thing in his language but history holds it that Igbos are 1st settlers on these lands and were the 1st to name the lands before Ijaws came from Sierra Leone to settle on river banks.

Abagworo:


Get a brain. I wrote Ikot Abasi means "people of God" which is obviously in reference to Arochukwu. There is equally an Ikot Chukwu in case you didn't know. Chukwu and Abasi both mean God . Arochukwu are everywhere in Eastern Niger Delta and is a hybrid of Igbo and Ibibio peoples.

And this man forget that most tribes in Akwa ibom and cross river state have many things in common with Aros of Abia, some clans in Aro migrated from them while many of them migrated from Aro.

ariesbull:



Benin boy are you still here

I'm from Anambra and I'm a proud Igbo dude, nigga. I just don't have an agenda to push and I can put aside tribal sentiments when talking about related groups.

Take time.

nengibo:

What does the song mean

Ohhh
You don't know and you ran out to claim they're more Edo

Too bad!!!

gerg:
I understand what Redbonesmith was talking about but I don't understand you at all. The example I gave is more Ika than it is Enuani but you said Ikas don't speak like that? maybe you just didn't know. I suspect

As long as the person claims he's Anioma you'd automatically understand

nengibo:

What is the point of showing me this map
Smh biafra people, what do u even think igwenga (now ikot abasi) even means

Ikot abasi is the same as Umu Chukwu, which is the name people from Arochukwu were known by throughout Kalabari, Kirike, Mba oli iche(Ogoni), Igwenga territories

cheruv:

Ikot abasi is the same as Umu Chukwu, which is the name people from Arochukwu were known by throughout Kalabari, Kirike, Mba oli iche(Ogoni), Igwenga territories

All this google historians, ikot means bush or town, Ikot-Abasi means God's town, why do Igbos have a nack for saying what dey don't know. Paisi stop changing the meaning of ppls town #sad

cheruv:

Ohhh
You don't know and you ran out to claim they're more Edo

Too bad!!!

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but mine is given with any minority tribe annexing agenda

nengibo:

All this google historians, ikot means bush or town, Ikot-Abasi means God's town, why do Igbos have a nack for saying what dey don't know. Paisi stop changing the meaning of ppls town #sad

I've cousins who are Mmoŋo...and that's what they told me "ikot" means in their tongue.
I don't know why all these minorities wanna annex parts of Igboland to their ND agenda and they should be certain that their attempts either in Anioma or Igwenga or any other part of Igboid Rivers would be resisted with the full might of 40M Igbos worldwide.

cheruv:

I've cousins who are Mmoŋo...and that's what they told me "ikot" means in their tongue.
I don't know why all these minorities wanna annex parts of Igboland to their ND agenda and they should be certain that their attempts either in Anioma or Igwenga or any other part of Igboid Rivers would be resisted with the full might of 40M Igbos worldwide.

You are just hilarious, seek information first before talking online
Ikot-Abasi is now an igbo word, wow just wow
IGWENGA is now an igbo word, truly sad
You change the meaning of town names just to push your propaganda and u will later ask y Rivers people hate igbo, why Niger deltans hate Igbo, look inwards and you will find the answer. ..

Its funny how igbos are over one billion people and they are still jealous of "MINORITIES" begging and claiming for relationship with their "igboid" tags and propaganda.

nengibo:

You are just hilarious, seek information first before talking online
Ikot-Abasi is now an igbo word, wow just wow
IGWENGA is now an igbo word, truly sad
You change the meaning of town names just to push your propaganda and u will later ask y Rivers people hate igbo, why Niger deltans hate Igbo, look inwards and you will find the answer. ..

Its funny how igbos are over one billion people and they are still jealous of "MINORITIES" begging and claiming for relationship with their "igboid" tags and propaganda.

So true. Igbos come to your land, give an Igbo meaning to your town name and other words and eventually corrupt them and later start claiming it to be the original name.

cheruv:

As long as the person claims he's Anioma you'd automatically understand

Not true. I don't attack someone for have an opposing view. You also said you're from Anioma, though you were lying, but I don't ever understand your points.

nengibo:

All this google historians, ikot means bush or town, Ikot-Abasi means God's town, why do Igbos have a nack for saying what dey don't know. Paisi stop changing the meaning of ppls town #sad

Nobody ever said Ikot-Abasi is Igbo word but that it means "People of God" or "Ndi Chukwu" when translated to Igbo. Ibibio and Aro are but half brothers . The 1st settlement of Ibibio was at Ibom Arochukwu in Abia State. Igbos later mixed with them to emerge as Aros with Aros retaining Ibom homeland.

Abagworo:





Nobody ever said Ikot-Abasi is Igbo word but that it means "People of God" or "Ndi Chukwu" when translated to Igbo. Ibibio and Aro are but half brothers . The 1st settlement of Ibibio was at Ibom Arochukwu in Abia State. Igbos later mixed with them to emerge as Aros with Aros retaining Ibom homeland.

So why the translation of the ibibio town name to igbo? Or you want to say thats the original name now.

nengibo:

So why the translation of the ibibio town name to igbo? Or you want to say thats the original name now.

The major reason Igbos and Ibibios are in good relationship is because they are not suffering from inferiority complex or insecurity like you.

Jaja was an Igbo man from Amaigbo in Isuama that left Bonny to found Opobo in recent history but insecurity will make you deny that obvious truth.

Abagworo:


The major reason Igbos and Ibibios are in good relationship is because they are not suffering from inferiority complex or insecurity like you.

Jaja was an Igbo man from Amaigbo in Isuama that left Bonny to found Opobo in recent history but insecurity will make you deny that obvious truth.

Lol piriamapu, if I wasn't proud of my Identity how would you know where I am from without me telling you. Its obvious dat i ooze it, I am not like those who needs to be part of ohaneze of benin, igala and ibibio descendants.

gerg:
Not true. I don't attack someone for have an opposing view. You also said you're from Anioma, though you were lying, but I don't ever understand your points.

Where I'm from in Anioma shouldn't bother you... Am proud of my SS identity just as am proud of my SE identity. I know for sure you and the other guy aren't Anioma.
Moreover anybody who speaks an Igboid language and turns around to ClaIM Bini has inferiority complex and nothing stops me from making fun of such souls.
We're oru(riverine people) and am proud of my Oru identity

nengibo:

You are just hilarious, seek information first before talking online
Ikot-Abasi is now an igbo word, wow just wow
IGWENGA is now an igbo word, truly sad
You change the meaning of town names just to push your propaganda and u will later ask y Rivers people hate igbo, why Niger deltans hate Igbo, look inwards and you will find the answer. ..

Its funny how igbos are over one billion people and they are still jealous of "MINORITIES" begging and claiming for relationship with their "igboid" tags and propaganda.

I think you've problems with understanding... My paternal Grandma is from Atakpa(calabar). My Dad has half siblings who are either Ibibio or efik(depending on where their father came from) and I relate with them very well. I teach them Igbo while they teach me Mmoŋo. They were the ones who told me that!!!
Am beginning to think you've inferiority complex that rears its head whenever you see Igbos and like I promised you.. No part of Igboland either Anioma or Igwenga or even ikwerre would join you in your phantom ND republic.
For the meantime, keep sleeping on flying okada

Abagworo:


The major reason Igbos and Ibibios are in good relationship is because they are not suffering from inferiority complex or insecurity like you.

Jaja was an Igbo man from Amaigbo in Isuama that left Bonny to found Opobo in recent history but insecurity will make you deny that obvious truth.

Exactly!!
This is the main problem of these Bini and Ijo guys

Cire80:
So true. Igbos come to your land, give an Igbo meaning to your town name and other words and eventually corrupt them and later start claiming it to be the original name.

Edos would invade an area, impose their tyrants and so the tyrants would start claiming the land for the oba even when the oba cant even understand the language spoken there.
Land thieves

cheruv:

Edos would invade an area, impose their tyrants and so the tyrants would start claiming the land for the oba even when the oba cant even understand the language spoken there.
Land thieves

Listen to yourself. Did the Edo write our history for us? If You don't have nothing to say, keep mute

Cire80:
Listen to yourself. Did the Edo write our history for us? If You don't have nothing to say, keep mute

Yes...your Edo people are trying to rewrite Anioma's history and the descendants of their invading army scattered(eg you) aren't helping issues.
Some families in my ndokwa area came out from Bini too,but you don't see them talk about it like its some big stuff. We've kept quiet for too long,that's why its you Bini settlers are now loud.
Don't worry,when Anioma state comes on board, your types would be shut up for good

Cire80:
So true. Igbos come to your land, give an Igbo meaning to your town name and other words and eventually corrupt them and later start claiming it to be the original name.

Wow
Igbos must be so powerful!
And here I was thinking they are the ones leading the pack of political cluelessness in the country
You mean Igbos were able to come over to your "land", displace your Edoid kings and princes, after displacing them,
these Igbos went ahead to rename your kings, male and female names you give to your newborns, market days,
names of commodities, names of towns and villages...to the point that they have replaced your mighty ancient language....
with and Igbo dialect

Oh dear! How come these conquering Igbos did not conquer the Hausas, Fulanis, Yorubas?
Or even their Igalla, Idoma, Ibibio, Ijaw and Efik neighbours?
Why only Ikas/Aniomas?
I am thinking the Igbos have always been biased and envious of Ika greatness and powerfulness
Right?

gerg:
of course, Anambra folks communicate better with you guys than us. that's a fact. I'm not talking about Enuani-Anambra Ika-Anambra similarities but I'm talking about Enuani-Anambra Enuani-Ika relationship.

The N to L like in Ani and Ali and L to R differences you gave is inconsequential. Anybody that understands what Ani means will understand what Ali mean. so also Ekwa and the era example. But the example I gave is more diverse. Somebody that's not from the Anioma (including the Anambra part) can never understand what I mean by Nkei, Nke eh. Only the Anioma axis of Anambra and their neighbors which they influenced will understand this. Which shows it's an Anioma form of speaking. What is it is Ki ro in Ika and Ki do in Enuani as against Ogini used in the East. The Anambra folks don't understand this by default except they've lived among the Aniomas. There are many examples I can give but you will only understand this if you've lived among the three groups which I'm sure you have. just that you never noticed this or thought about it from this perspective. The Enuani-Anambra relationship is not as deep as the Enuani-Ika relationship. this is just my point. There is some slight differences between the Enuanis of Delta and those in Anambra. but there are many similarities as well. Enuani guys sounds so much like the Anambra on the surface (especially those guys related to Anioma and to some extent those around them) but it's more like Ika and Ukwani than it is to Anambra guys.

Enuani Igbo is 99% more of Anambra Igbo, but Ika - Igbo far more deeper to understand by any Enuani person. So what lie are you trying to lie?

gerg:
I'm an Ika man and I've been with Igbos from different parts of the East. Many of the things we talk in Anioma (Enuani, Ukwani and Ika) is not easily understood by those guys in the East. Ki ro, Ki do and Nkei, Nke ee and many others. I answer call in the presence of those Easterners. I can't imagine having this debate with someone from Anioma

Another lie!! An average Easterner understand Enuani very well without hitch but find it difficult to understand ukwani but also find it far far difficult to understand Ika.

gerg:
Easterners don't understand Nkei and nke eh and some other exclusive Anioma words and expressions. I've tried speaking Ika to many Easterners. I never argued Oshimili being close to what they speak in some parts of Anambra. What I don't agree on is Oshimili being closer to what they speak in Anambra than it is to Ika. The Enuani-Anambra similarities are mostly some central Igbo words which every Igbo person understand but the Enuani-Ika similarities are deeper. Only Anioma and other affiliated people can understand them.

Guy to be honest to you, an average Enuani person find it very much harder to understand Ika dialect just like Anambra person too. Any Igbo dialect Anambra person finds difficult to understood will also be difficult for Enuani person to understand. For example Ika dialect, ebonyi dialect and ikwere dialect will be difficult for Anambra person to understand the same with Enuani person. Similarities between Anambra and Enuani Igbo far more compared to Enuani/Ika.

Klinee:
Guy to be honest to you, an average Enuani person find it very much harder to understand Ika dialect just like Anambra person too. Any Igbo dialect Anambra person finds difficult to understood will also be difficult for Enuani person to understand. For example Ika dialect, ebonyi dialect and ikwere dialect will be difficult for Anambra person to understand the same with Enuani person. Similarities between Anambra and Enuani Igbo far more compared to Enuani/Ika.

Where are you from? This will determine if I will respond to you or not

Ukwuani is related to Igbo spoken in parts of Imo and Anambra like Ogbaru and Oguta while Enuani is more related to Anambra proper like Idemili or Onitsha. Ika is a more difficult dialect just like Afikpo, Abiriba, Abakaliki and Ikwerre.

Abagworo:
Ukwuani is related to Igbo spoken in parts of Imo and Anambra like Ogbaru and Oguta while Enuani is more related to Anambra proper like Idemili or Onitsha. Ika is a more difficult dialect just like Afikpo, Abiriba, Abakaliki and Ikwerre.

Ika is difficult but Ukwani is very difficult as well. Enuani is easier for Easterners to understand but there are many Ika words in all Anioma dialects. We all speak almost the same things with slight difference. where there is a major difference is intonation. Ukwani speak Ika with Urhobo accent, Enuani sounds more Igbo but there are many Ika words and expression. Just too many. Anybody that disputes this is not from Anioma