BascoVanVeli:


U are talking down on yourself because that is not what i said and i know it.

TheGoodJoe:


Nice instinct in front of goal. I agree Onyekuru can land a better deal if he maintains his form. However, I feel Celtic was a better platform to showcase his talent than Eupen.

The hero in the Eupen saga is the Eupen manager, Auli who kept his doors open to Onyekuru and blamed Onyekuru's reaction on the confusion of the transfer market. Much respect to the young Spanish tactician.

TheGoodJoe:


A move to Celtic would not put Onyekuru's career in jeopardy. That is a very weak assessment. Celtic is a big club that features regularly in the Champions League. With a manager, Brendan Rodgers who plays an exciting, high pressing brand of football that would have fitted Onyekuru.

Haba.

BascoVanVeli:


Yea its a no brainer in ur brain.

goldfish80:

Quit playing the victims card. Iwobi's market value is not close to 50M you're using more of your heart to judge than your head.
Iwobi is not 2X worth more than Franck Kessie and we know Franck's market value.

TheGoodJoe:


What else do you want to know? I was not blown away from the few I watched at the City game. Never heard news of Mbappe as a World Class striker in the class of Benzema, Higuain and Cavani, players I rate Aguero better than. It is simple logic to know that a player who is not rated above these players to start at City.

As for you saying Mbappe is more talented than anyone at City, it shows you clouded judgment of talents.

BascoVanVeli:


How am i playing the victim when i know i'm not talking out of my butt making up fake stats. I am speaking as a football fan who knows football. Iwobi has every quality that is searched for, he is big, strong and technical on the ball. I will gladly agree that i am following my heart but u can't prove me wrong on this here topic, all u can do is drop shade and act like it is because u are being honest. Tell the truth u never rated Iwobi or Iheanacho u are just a shark who has been patiently waiting for form to drop.

TheGoodJoe:


Are you joking or what? This Mbappe I am watching his clips now is more talented than Silva, Kevin De Bruyne and Aguero. Big joke. Please, go and watch Sane's clips at Schalke before you write things like this.

goldfish80:

Your knowledge of football is questionable if you think Arsenal can get 50M for Iwobi if he were to be sold today.
You obviously think transfer value is solemnly determined by a players ability.
The press plays a major role in the hype business and recently, Iwobi have not been getting good reviews by the press.
Again, judge with your head and not your heart. The heart is sometimes weak and not correct all the time.

BascoVanVeli:


He has not been put on the market so how do u know what the press will do? Payet was estimated at 60 million but got sold for 25 so i don't get how u can be so confident about these fickle numbers. I am standing by the quality of a player who i know will be a great and greats don't come cheap. If u don't like that tough luck.

goldfish80:

You do realise no 20yr old have been transferred for 50M? Arsenal have yet to sell anyone for the said amount and no African have cost the said amount.
Haven established all these facts, and objectively speaking, you think Iwobi will be the player to cross that mark if he was in the transfer market as it stands. I like your optimism but I know better.

BascoVanVeli:


We are not talking about ur club. This is the Super Eagles the senior national team of Nigeria. We have serious business to take care of we are not trying to plan for the future we want to win right now and go to Russia. We need the best players no sentiments. Just like u were against old Yaya and now he is saving ur butt.

do4luv14:

he is jst returning from injury, don't expect him to b sharp, further more, the coach play a style of game NT suited to him, wich Ws y IGHALO Ws finding the net hard to come

whizola:

Pls how can you call him the hottest teen sensation in the world, with all the hype Gabriel Jesus didn't worth a 50m neymar did not worth 80m eithet, neither did pogba worth a 50m when he was 18

komekn:


100% in agreement could not have said it better. Unproven Youth players will not win us anything over proven established and quality experienced players.

Some if these youths have been able to hold down a jersey in low rated teams and leagues compared to our experienced players.

Then the final issue, we know ourselves, all these funny untraceable names used to mask past histories and rebrand players as teenagers and U21, should not fool seasoned observers of African football. What we are calling youth sef are they really youth.

forgiveness:


The difference between these two players, one na overage the other na confirmed small pikin.

TheGoodJoe:


I understand the point but I do not see Martins as a solution. We started threading a path I believe is right. Building a team with young players and promoting competition for roles.

If Martins was even 29, I can okay it but with our number of young hitmen, I absolutely feel going that route is wrong.

komekn:


If you can't stand the heat don't go into the kitchen

I watched Welbeck come on after several games out with Injury score and almost run the game, sharp. Hungry and fool of energy. I watched Sturridge at Liverpool after injury return and score but looking sharp all the time, the list is endless.

This is why we have reserved team or U23 games to get senior players back to fitness.

If he was not ready he should not be in the team. Thee are other players who are fit and able. What I saw was simply not encouraging. From am observations point of view he isn't cut or athletic just heavy, cumbersome and lethargic. Compare him to Anichebe who in his first game after three months of injury was almost unplayable.

komekn:


Tell me the number of young hit men that will make us competitive for the world cup please

goldfish80:

He was on the same pitch against your De Bryn, Silva and Aguero last Tuesday but people are talking more about Mbappe than these guys you're calling. That should tell a smart person something.

goldfish80:

This is what you get when someone knows little about something and he's making a fist of the argument.

Mbappe is being marketed as the best teenager in Europe. His records have eclipsed that set by Thierry Henry at same age. The youngest player to score a hattrick in Ligue 1 and a host of other records he has sent to the thrash can.
These players you're naming aren't as good as this guy when they were same age.

And yes he's more talented than the lot you put out. Although Aguero, Higuain and Benzema would have an edge over him with experience. Doesn't mean they are more talented.

TheGoodJoe:



Thierry Henry played as a winger in Ligue 1 and not a wing forward. He had Ikpeba and Trezeguet leading the attack. How do you expect Henry to have better goal stats at that age baffles me. Thierry Henry as a Young player was never good enough to become a starter in the current City team. If that is your yardstick and marketed, then you are really off point.

As young players, players like Aguero and Benzema were far more talented and prolific than Mbappe. If you argue this, it shows you did not know them as young players.

If you believe Aguero will edge Mbappe on experience, then he will bench at City. Case dismissed.

Yara Yara, bring my bag.

goldfish80:


This is exactly why you shouldn't argue if you have limited information.
Mbappe primarily is a wing forward who can play as a striker. Its better you stop talking about this guy since you have no idea what he is all about.

BascoVanVeli:


I'd like to know, when u look in the mirror do u just admit that u will never be as good as the next man no matter how hard u try? Ur views on being African are backwards and alarming. Every point u have goes along with he is also African. I have always maintained that he is not on the market so why try to force a point? U say no African has been sold for that much and on the other hand u are drooling over an African that u say is worth 50 million. I have always said that Iwobi will change how people see Nigerian footballers but I didn't know he would also have to change how Nigerians see themselves.

goldfish80:

You jump into mentions without reading what you're responding to.

If you had read my post, you will discover I talked about the ill advised strike he embarked up on which would jeopardised his career had Eupen reported him to FIFA, he will be sanctioned and could be banned from football for a few seasons.
I remember Kalu Uche then at Wisla Krakow going on strike after his Polish club rejected his proposed move to Ajax. Uche was disbanded from football for awhile until Henri Kasperzak came on board.

Learn to read before commenting

TheGoodJoe:


Go and educate yourself on topics before arguing. It makes you sound as a novice. In a wing system with two strikers, the winger has limited opportunity scoring. Wing Forward is mostly in a three man forward set up. The wing forward have more chances to score than wingers.

TheGoodJoe :
Thierry Henry played as a winger in Ligue 1 and not a wing forward. He had Ikpeba and Trezeguet leading the attack. How do you expect Henry to have better goal stats at that age baffles me. Thierry Henry as a Young player was never good enough to become a starter in the current City team. If that is your yardstick and marketed, then you are really off point.
As young players, players like Aguero and Benzema were far more talented and prolific than Mbappe.

TheGoodJoe:



Bomb. If Eupen reported him to FIFA, it will expose their shady deal of trying to lure him away from his agent and to a club against his choice. The strike got him to the negotiating table with the club and they now have ammutual understanding with Onyekuru. Win-win. Not ill advised. The ill advise would have been Onyekuru dumping his agent and going to a club against his club.

goldfish80:

This is a sentimental way to put it. Its a pity football business is not guided by emotions and sentiments.

goldfish80:

If you argue this, it shows you did not know them as young players.
If you believe Aguero will edge Mbappe on experience, then he will bench at City. Case dismissed.
Yara Yara, bring my bag.
Stop embarrassing yourself. This was what you posted a few minutes ago. See how you contradict yourself within a space of 5 minutes.
In one moment you're saying Mbappe is less prolific than Benzema and Aguero who are strikers the next moment you're saying Mbappe should be more prolific than Henry.

This sort of things happen when someone has limited information. Smh

TheGoodJoe:


Saying Mbappe is better than Benzema at the same age is comical. Very comical. Olympique Lyon were the rulers of French football and at a very young age, Benzema was their king. Please, go and Google Benzema Lyon clips I beg you. Watch them on YouTube before arguing this kind of thing.