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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by 10d0ve(m): 9:03pm On Feb 26, 2017
Ibime:


What is your skippers strength exactly? Which has he ever averaged 100 passes per game like Xavi? Even at the height of tikitaka, his average was around 70 at best.

So what exactly is this strength that you want to play to? Can you squeeze blood out of a stone?
Busquests was never good enough, xavi covered him all those years, iniesta is a carry along, leaving xavi as the only person at the middle of the pitch, make up your mind or go home

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by 10d0ve(m): 9:05pm On Feb 26, 2017
mcdreeezy:
So if we end up winning the league, you won't be happy?
If It will be pivotal in saving L Enrique's job, I won't be happy
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Ibime(m): 9:06pm On Feb 26, 2017
10d0ve:
Busquests was never good enough, xavi covered him all those years, iniesta is a carry along, leaving xavi as the only person at the middle of the pitch, make up your mind or go home

Busquets is great at possession football as well as Xavi. Iniesta is not. The passing stats don't lie.

So what exactly is your skippers strength that you want to play to?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by 10d0ve(m): 9:10pm On Feb 26, 2017
jonsnow92:

Whereas Barca are Shit at the moment Still
We've beaten Valencia away,Beaten Sevilla away,Beaten Atetico madrid away,drew d clasico due to a last gasp goal from Ramos...
Sometimes too much Success brings Unnecessary expectations... Its because Barca are used to succeeding thats y you typed dis Shit!!
in martino's season, we did the double over Madrid, didn't loose to atm, won some big games too, so all these ones you are saying is not the koko. We celebrating this liga (if we win) is celebrating mediocrity. Simple!
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by senorova(m): 9:14pm On Feb 26, 2017
bykebyke:

Okay..you are looking for someone in the team who shouts at his teammates? undecided
Lol. Byke... Let's be objective....
Forget haters coming here to compare lampard or whoever with iniesta... He's highly regarded by the football community as a football great, if not the game's finest midfielder.

This season, he has rarely led attack when we desperately need someone to do so. We know inesta is known for decision making and timely passes...we haven't seen so much of that this season when we need him most. You see the way messi has countlessly delivered barca out of embarrassment and shame... Iniesta doesn't even need to assist or score....just a defence splitting pass or some of his magic we've seen him muster times without number. I
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by 10d0ve(m): 9:15pm On Feb 26, 2017
Ibime:


Busquets is great at possession football as well as Xavi. Iniesta is not. The passing stats don't lie.

So what exactly is your skippers strength that you want to play to?
Iniesta(The greatest attacking midfielder since zizou)is good at passing, retaining possession, creating spaces for his team mates to exploit. Until a reputable analyst says otherwise, we won't quote the words of a bias nairalander. Meanwhile, busquests has been called useless on numerous occasions on this forum, hope you haven't endorsed such statements before now?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jonsnow92: 9:16pm On Feb 26, 2017
10d0ve:
in martino's season, we did the double over Madrid, didn't loose to atm, won some big games too, so all these ones you are saying is not the koko. We celebrating this liga (if we win) is celebrating mediocrity. Simple!
How is it Mediocrity?..The Psg Trashing??
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by scantee(m): 9:18pm On Feb 26, 2017
Villarel is really playing well and suppose be in front by now...
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by mcdreeezy: 9:19pm On Feb 26, 2017
10d0ve:
If It will be pivotal in saving L Enrique's job, I won't be happy
LE is leaving at the end of the season regardless of any outcome.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Ibime(m): 9:22pm On Feb 26, 2017
10d0ve:
Iniesta(The greatest attacking midfielder since zizou)is good at passing, retaining possession, creating spaces for his team mates to exploit. Until a reputable analyst says otherwise, we won't quote the words of a bias nairalander. Meanwhile, busquests has been called useless on numerous occasions on this forum, hope you haven't endorsed such statements before now?

Look man, it's a simple question and you keep parambulating round the bush.

What is the strength of your skipper that you want the team to be built around?

If it is retaining possession ie tikitaka football, show me one laliga season where he has ever averaged 100 passes per game. OK make it 90, OK make it 80.

You are living in dreamworld thinking he can control tikitaka. Those asked to control that style of football like Alonso and Xavi make 100 passes per game, and Iniesta is a 70 man at best.

Even Busquets can do and has done seasons with 90 passes.

I see you are another hype merchant who doesn't know or understand the football he is watching.

Tell me which strength of your skippers that the coach should set his team up to exploit. You want him to build tikitaka around a 70 passes man? You better go and beg Thiago to come back if that is what you want. Your skipper has no strength to build upon.

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by 10d0ve(m): 9:23pm On Feb 26, 2017
jonsnow92:
How is it Mediocrity?..The Psg Trashing??
who is talking of our disgraceful European outing? Reminisce on the liqa games you've seen this season, both the once we've lost, draw, or won, 70%of them are mediocre performances that's if you like to be truthful to your self, you can sugar coat if you wish to
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by 10d0ve(m): 9:27pm On Feb 26, 2017
Ibime:


Look man, it's a simple question and you keep parambulating round the bush.

What is the strength of your skipper that you want the team to be built around?

If it is retaining possession ie tikitaka football, show me one laliga season where he has ever averaged 100 passes per game. OK make it 90, OK make it 80.

You are living in dreamworld thinking he can control tikitaka. Those asked to control that style of football like Alonso and Xavi make 100 passes per game, and Iniesta is a 70 man at best.

Even Busquets can do and has done seasons with 90 passes.

I see you are another hype merchant who doesn't know or understand the football he is watching.

Tell me which strength of your skippers that the coach should set his team up to exploit. You want him to build tikitaka around a 70 passes man? You better go and beg Thiago to come back if that is what you want. Your skipper has no strength to build upon.
well, he isn't a cm, so kindly show me Am's doing 100 passes. As for your question, I already answered. Also show us Am's that hardly gets dispossessed like iniesta
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by coded01: 9:34pm On Feb 26, 2017
Villarreal well done... cheesy
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Ibime(m): 9:51pm On Feb 26, 2017
10d0ve:
well, he isn't a cm, so kindly show me Am's doing 100 passes. As for your question, I already answered. Also show us Am's that hardly gets dispossessed like iniesta

If he is an AM, show me his goals and assists.

Since Xavi left, Iniesta has dropped deeper in an attempt to replicate Xavis function, but to no avail.

The football you are playing is not anti-football, but it is just not tiki taka. You still keep 60%, sometimes 70% sef of possession. This is not antifootball, it is just the same level as other top teams like Chelsea, Arsenal etc.

To play tikitaka, you need 250-270 passes per game from your 3 man midfield. That is an average of 3 passes every minute.

It used to be:

Xavi - 100 passes
Busquets - 80-90 passes
Iniesta - 60-70 passes

For Spain, it needed to be uber tikitaka as Spain did not have killer strikers like Messi, so the best way to protect themselves was to ensure they don't lose the ball. That's why Xabi Alonso was added to increase the possession football even further. The 3 man midfield was:

Alonso - 100 passes
Busquets - 90 passes
Xavi - 100 passes

Now you have a situation where Iniesta has dropped deeper to reprise the Xavi role, but his ppg stays at 60 passes, even dropping to 50 passes this season.

So you have:

Busquets - 80 passes (even dropping these days to 60 or 70)
Iniesta - 60 passes (even dropping to 50)
Rakitic - 60 passes

How do you expect to play tikitaka out of that? Even if Enrique allowed them to play full tikitaka, those 3 cannot produce much more than 200 passes between them.

The truth is Enrique does not have the raw materials to reprise the old tikitaka. Playing to the so called strength of your skipper is non-existent because your skipper does not, and has never had the tikitaka strength you think he has.

Unless you get a tikitaka specialist like Thiago back, you are better off continuing with a more counterattacking style. That is the same job Modric and Kroos are being asked to do at Madrid to capitalise on the speed of BBC, and they are not complaining about it.

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by coded01: 9:54pm On Feb 26, 2017
Yes.. Villarreal... 1-0.. cheesy
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by scantee(m): 9:56pm On Feb 26, 2017
Villareal 1-0 up they deserve to be in front, they are playing really well
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by coded01: 9:59pm On Feb 26, 2017
scantee:
Villareal 1-0 up they deserve to be in front, they are playing really well


2-0... cheesy


League is in Barca's hands now... cool
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by scantee(m): 10:00pm On Feb 26, 2017
Villarael 2-0 nice weekend gift
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by 10d0ve(m): 10:01pm On Feb 26, 2017
Ibime:


If he is an AM, show me his goals and assists.

Since Xavi left, Iniesta has dropped deeper in an attempt to replicate Xavis function, but to no avail.

The football you are playing is not anti-football, but it is just not tiki taka. You still keep 60%, sometimes 70% sef of possession. This is not antifootball, it is just the same level as other top teams like Chelsea, Arsenal etc.

To play tikitaka, you need 250-270 passes per game from your 3 man midfield. That is an average of 3 passes every minute.

It used to be:

Xavi - 100 passes
Busquets - 80-90 passes
Iniesta - 60-70 passes

For Spain, it needed to be uber tikitaka as Spain did not have killer strikers like Messi, so the best way to protect themselves was to ensure they don't lose the ball. That's why Xabi Alonso was added to increase the possession football even further. The 3 man midfield was:

Alonso - 100 passes
Busquets - 90 passes
Xavi - 100 passes

Now you have a situation where Iniesta has dropped deeper to reprise the Xavi role, but his ppg stays at 60 passes, even dropping to 50 passes this season.

So you have:

Busquets - 80 passes (even dropping these days to 60 or 70)
Iniesta - 60 passes (even dropping to 50)
Rakitic - 60 passes

How do you expect to play tikitaka out of that?

The truth is Enrique does not have the raw materials to reprise the old tikitaka. Playing to the so called strength of your skipper is non-existent because your skipper does not, and has never had the tikitaka strength you think he has.

Unless you get a tikitaka specialist like Thiago back, you are better off continuing with a more counterattacking style. That is the same job Modric and Kroos are being asked to do at Madrid to capitalise on the speed of BBC, and they are not complaining about it.

Not another merry go round! Show us these other Am's pass stat. I'm sure when you proclaimed him the best 8YEARS ago, you weren't a teenager.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by scantee(m): 10:01pm On Feb 26, 2017
coded01:



2-0... cheesy


League is in Barca's hands now... cool

They are really playing fast footiee
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Category1: 10:01pm On Feb 26, 2017
2-0

Hahahahahaha
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by coded01: 10:01pm On Feb 26, 2017
scantee:


They are really playing fast footiee

Honestly... cheesy


Barca must win every match... cool
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by coded01: 10:02pm On Feb 26, 2017
Haters are not smiling... grin grin grin
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by 10d0ve(m): 10:03pm On Feb 26, 2017
Madrid loosing! It can finally pave the way for sampaoli n his boys...sleeping a happy man.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by princesuko(m): 10:04pm On Feb 26, 2017
Madrid have been very Poor should be 4-0 down grin grin
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by coded01: 10:04pm On Feb 26, 2017
E pain Ronaldo... grin grin
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by coded01: 10:05pm On Feb 26, 2017
princesuko:
Madrid have been very Poor should be 4-0 down grin grin

Make Villarreal do PSG on dem... grin grin
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Chanchit: 10:05pm On Feb 26, 2017
E don dey happen
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by coded01: 10:06pm On Feb 26, 2017
Submarines! cheesy
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Ibime(m): 10:06pm On Feb 26, 2017
10d0ve:
Not another merry go round! Show us these other Am's pass stat. I'm sure when you proclaimed him the best 8YEARS ago, you weren't a teenager.

All your fellow Barca fans told me he is not an AM. Which of you are confused?

I'm happy you consider him an AM. I consider him an AM for 70% of his career until the last 3 years.

But come o bros, do you know any good AM than only does ZERO goals and 5 assists per season? grin grin grin
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Chanchit: 10:11pm On Feb 26, 2017
2-1 they should just finish it like this.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by 10d0ve(m): 10:11pm On Feb 26, 2017
Ramos time loading? I really hope not

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