Ishilove:

There is such a thing as 'etiquette' which is not culture bound. This era of social media has people juxtaposing tactlessness with 'bluntness'. If you want to pass information, do so without resorting to arrogance and condescension, which quite frankly, is very irritating.

The Twoods fellow is arrogant and uncouth, QED. There's no cultural attachments to those traits.

Shawbabe:


I'm trying to see if I can go ahead of my husband. But at this rate, we might all have to go together coz of babysitting things.

jesufifunmi:


You are absolutely right Ishilove !

@ the bolded, the VO on the other thread comes to mind. This Twoods's post is the direct opposite. His posts reek of anger and hatred. If he has his way, he'd scrab the whole automatic citizenship. I think that's exactly his grouse. Thank God he's not in a position to do that. And the earlier he accepts that as a fact the better for him. Cos i don't want someone having a heartattack on top this matter.

justwise:



Really sometimes....

mom2015:


U can, he shud come when ure abt 37weeks cos ure likely to give birth before ur due date cos of the stress of handling a toddler. I had my baby at 38weekz 4days

oniwoski:
Pls house...i am still waiting for the Visa on Arrival info.......pls help its urgent as i will b travelling back on friday...pls my people i need answer. many thanks

lomwe:
I have been silently following this tread and wish to add some clarifications having lived and worked in America long enough. Please take every discount a hospital gives you for "self pay" or the one a doctor gives you for his service. A discount from a doctor is simply a shortchange on his labour to get more clients. Nothing concerns government inside. We all know by now that hospital and doctors fees are distinct and separate.We also know that Doctors don't deliver in their clinics only in Hospitals in which they are consultants.

However, i think the misunderstanding is going to some community clinics like Access Health, Hope Clinic, Ben Taub etc and getting a hospitaal dicount of the basis of "low income earner". This is where the problem lies for two major reason

1) When you declare a low household income to fit into a the poor American dicounted healthcare, you are invariably saying you are working and making income (those hospitals don't bother to check your immigration stauts) This voilates your B1/B2 visa.
2) It also means such individual has made a recourse to public funds. Remember these low income clinics will at the end of the year during tax file your name as one of those they provided healthcare to and ask government to make up for half of the money you did not pay. Government will then check you out and find out that it was a foreigner who has made a recourse to public fund. These process may a take up to a year or two but surely it will come out. So please avoid it except you don't mind a subsequent ban to US.

Thank you.

debby516:
pm me, i think i ve desoul's contact number

MamaOO:

God bless you. You're the only one who seems to have a lot more insight into this discount or no discount ish. Take all the doctor provided discount.. because the more people they can attract with their low fees, the more money for them.

[b]My problem and my pepper body only comes when people declare low incomes to get services from community clinics and hospitals that was set aside for low income earners in the US. These people work and PAY TAXES (emphasis on "Pay Taxes" to the system. They just do not make enough for them to be able to access the healthcare that they need. Why take advantage of such systems when it was not set up for you in first place and you had already declared thousands of dollars available for childbirth at the embassy. It's just not fair. Yours truly will not even be offered services in those kinds of clinics because once they run my name and my social security number, they know I have insurance, earn more than the income bracket of the people that they provide services for and that I do not simply qualify.

I don't blame other people When I see them angry about people who come from outside the US and declare low incomes to correspond to whatever the exchange rate is with their country's currency, just so they can pay less. People on this thread are still even good, shebi we all pay for the services and get zero balance letters or whatever. I know at least two people that had babies in the US last year and didn't pay a dime. All bills paid via Medicaid. That's just annoying.

lomwe:


[b]However, i think the misunderstanding is going to some community clinics like Access Health, Hope Clinic, Ben Taub etc and getting a hospitaal dicount of the basis of "low income earner". This is where the problem lies for two major reason

1) When you declare a low household income to fit into a the poor American dicounted healthcare, you are invariably saying you are working and making income (those hospitals don't bother to check your immigration stauts) This voilates your B1/B2 visa.
2) It also means such individual has made a recourse to public funds. Remember these low income clinics will at the end of the year during tax file your name as one of those they provided healthcare to and ask government to make up for half of the money you did not pay. Government will then check you out and find out that it was a foreigner who has made a recourse to public fund. These process may a take up to a year or two but surely it will come out. So please avoid it except you don't mind a subsequent ban to US.[/b]

Thank you.

shawlar:

It seems as if Justwise has banned that guy,
cos if not He'll certainly have responded to all the comments made about him and then some....
Frankly, I'm surprised it took so long cos anytime he comes on this thread, He is always courting controversy or seeking conflict, baiting people by making snide comments etc. It was very amusing the way peeps fell for his bait by responding to his jibes (which was exactly what he was seeking). You all need to master the art of 'unlooking....'

lomwe:

2) It also means such individual has made a recourse to public funds. Remember these low income clinics will at the end of the year during tax file your name as one of those they provided healthcare to and ask government to make up for half of the money you did not pay. Government will then check you out and find out that it was a foreigner who has made a recourse to public fund. These process may a take up to a year or two but surely it will come out. So please avoid it except you don't mind a subsequent ban to US.

Thank you.

justwise:


No I did not ban him and I will not as long as he keeps delivering those uncomfortable truth without insult.

Some Nigerian have problem with the truth and it's so obvious in this thread. We can't spin it off because people see us for who we are.

Whoever can't stand some blunt truth should get used to it quite frankly.

We don't have any moral right to condemn the politicians because many here will do even worse when placed in a position of responsibilities.

James Ibori started with credit card fraud when working in London and did not stop stealing when he became a governor. When he returned to Nigeria as a convicted criminal he was celebrated.

mimimum:
But you know ehn, a lot of honest people do not have problem with hearing the truth. I think people are on to him cos he keeps delivering his truth based on the discount issue. I really have a problem with people lying just to get benefits which they are not entitled to, but I am still not clear on the discount thingy, that was why I even genuinely asked the dude a question yesterday only for him to running like diarrhoea stool. If his argument is based on intentionally trying to derive benefit from a system you contribute nothing to, I'd understand. Na me go even follow am dey scream. But if the discount thing is a crime, let us know so that those of us that will not be able to afford paying 30k for childbirth will know. If that is the case, then the whole thing no worth am be that. My 2 cents.

justwise:


No I did not ban him and I will not as long as he keeps delivering those uncomfortable truth without insult.

Some Nigerian have problem with the truth and it's so obvious in this thread. We can't spin it off because people see us for who we are.

James Ibori started with credit card fraud when working in London and did not stop stealing when he became a governor. When he returned to Nigeria as a convicted criminal he was celebrated.

lomwe:
I have been silently following this tread and wish to add some clarifications having lived and worked in America long enough. Please take every discount a hospital gives you for "self pay" or the one a doctor gives you for his service. A discount from a doctor is simply a shortchange on his labour to get more clients. Nothing concerns government inside. We all know by now that hospital and doctors fees are distinct and separate.We also know that Doctors don't deliver in their clinics only in Hospitals in which they are consultants.

However, i think the misunderstanding is going to some community clinics like Access Health, Hope Clinic, Ben Taub etc and getting a hospitaal dicount of the basis of "low income earner". This is where the problem lies for two major reason

1) When you declare a low household income to fit into a the poor American dicounted healthcare, you are invariably saying you are working and making income (those hospitals don't bother to check your immigration stauts) This voilates your B1/B2 visa.
2) It also means such individual has made a recourse to public funds. Remember these low income clinics will at the end of the year during tax file your name as one of those they provided healthcare to and ask government to make up for half of the money you did not pay. Government will then check you out and find out that it was a foreigner who has made a recourse to public fund. These process may a take up to a year or two but surely it will come out. So please avoid it except you don't mind a subsequent ban to US.

Thank you.

titileps:
Good Morning. Please is Houston North West Medical centre one of those hospitals? Because I asked for fee and was told 2k. Wasn't told if it was discounted or not. I only mentioned that I am a self paid patient.

justwise:


Mimimum sorry but you are one of those people here who decided to attack TWoods because you don't like the way he presented the truth and not because you don't understand his explanation.

You asked a genuine question and he gave his opinion then the hell let loose.

Lomwe and Mama00 explained this correctly and that is exactly the issue with discounted hospitals.

This is not about you getting 2,3 or 5% discount for paying cash in full , this is about foreign mothers applying as low income earners so as to get huge discounts meant for Americans tax payers.

Colouredgirl:

Tell her what you think she should have one in tis case..since they were bent on her filling the form even after she notified them she is an international patient...

mom2015:
I had my baby on the 9th of feb but can't post details now cos my hands are filled up. Newborn and toddler palaver. Abeg I dey stranded with this new arik news and I need a cheap one way ticket from Chicago or any other cheaper state to Lagos on the 7-9th of march. Abeg ticket gurus shud help me out.

fatima04:
I think the issue of discount is sort of being misunderstood and maybe discount isnt the right word.

We get a subsidised amount from the hospital because we are paying cash and once and for all. Just like economics the value of 1 naira in jan 2017 isnt the same with 2018 or dec 2017 sef.

They value the amount you are paying now rather than the one dt will be subjected to insurance,hence the term "self pay patient"

For ex, My hospital in odessa has an agreement for 2500 including mother and baby/ies which has to be paid within 2 weeks of delivery. Do note that in the agreement it was clearly stated that the 2500 is null and void once a 3rd party is going to make the payment.

It was my over meticulousness (2weeks after ) i decided to even go check my acct and all and saw 11000 bill oo! I den packaged myself and english oo, only for the account officer to be apologising for not posting my payments earlier so the system locked her out cos it was past 2 weeks grace for self pay.

In all i just believe they came up with the self pay to get their money fast and easy without being subjected to all d hassles of insurance claims and all.

mimimum:
Please, please, please. Who has booked a return flight before and had a different airport as the return airport? I am trying to book a flight to JFK for my mum, but I want IAD, Washington to be the airport of return. Is it possible? The agent my mum spoke to is not helping with any useful info.

chibertha:
I have done something close to it.
Left from Lagos and returned to phc.
I did it in the airline office though.
So call the airline of your choice ticketing line they will help work you through and send the ticket ref which you will use to pay.
Remember to get her information handy because it will be needed.

Omosubo:
Hello, please i need information on birth in chicago. Could you provide some information . Would be expecting a reply

Niksie:
Hello House, it’s time to share my POE experience. To God be all the glory.

I flew Airfrance on Thursday night, there was no issue with fit-to-fly letter as it seems they were not even interested anyway. I had it with me already so I just told the lady that attended to me at check-in desk and she collected a copy.
The flight was alright timing and all but I’ll say the food served and entertainment was just there.

The walk from where we landed in Paris to the next take off point was a bit long but it was ok for me at this point. I also noticed there were people in uniform at different points checking passport, visa and ticket as we walked.

Fast forward to new York (JFK) POE, the place wasn’t busy at the time we landed……I was directed to use the self-service machine after which I was sent to meet a CBP officer.

CBP officer (cool young guy): hello
Me: hi
CBP officer (cool young guy): how long will you be staying?
Me: about 10weeks (he looked surprised) so I quickly added that yea cos I’ll be on vacation and have my baby aswell.
CBP officer (cool young guy): oh you having your baby too?
Me: yea (the guy was cool with that and already stamping me in)

A young female colleague standing beside him heard him and cuts in

CBP officer (lady): are you sure you don’t wanna check with them inside?
CBP officer (cool young guy): hmmm not necessary, I don’t think they like the idea (I think he meant he dint need to go ask something he already knows how to handle)
CBP officer (lady): I think you should (then the guy went inside). She kept on questioning me.
Are you married? (Me: yes I am, showed her my ring)
Where are you having your baby?
Did you come to US prior to this to check for doctor and all? (Me: no I didn’t but I contacted the doctor)
Where are you staying?
Can you afford it? Where does your husband work? (Me: yes we can)
How much does it cost?
How do you intend to pay? (Me: I have some cash which I showed and my cards)
Is your husband coming to join you and bringing more cash? (Me: yea later but I’m with our bank cards to spend from account. I have the statements to show)
CBP officer (cool young guy): He came back in like 2mins…..madam, have your passport and enjoy your stay. He sent me towards agric cos I declared that I had food.

I picked up my baggage and realized that cart is USD 6.00 (oops), luckily one man offered to pay for me (awesome).
At agric, my boxes were scanned but not opened to search then I left (pushing the cart) to link the next terminal via air train to catch my delta flight to chicago.

Note: I had to insert the card I used to book the delta ticket during self-check-in maybe cos I booked on their site directly but it was mentioned at the point of booking.

I had a long wait time as I booked a late flight incase of delay. Walk to the boarding gate to Chicago was sooo long, I kept pausing along the way but maybe I should have joined the shuttle or something.

Finally, I got to Chicago then realized one of my boxes with food was forced open (padlock broken) by custom peeps for inspection and they dropped a card inside to notify me ( I guess this happened between when I checked in for new york - chicago flight).

Thank God for a nice POE experience and thank you for experiences shared here to prepare us for this journey.

mimimum:
So you now determine whether I understand or not. Kontinu. I understood more when the other two ladies explained! Well if you must know, I was well within my rights to address him for bringing children into the matter. I didn't have an issue with his explanation until he started addressing children . Wasn't it me that asked question? I asked him question on discounts, e enter low income matter. Like I will go and be telling them I earn less that $200. Leomwe and Mama00 that answered sensibly, aren't they human beings? Abeg, let's learn to talk civilly. Whether you abuse people or not, people will still be what they are and do what is in their mind. So why get headache over the matter. It is not the truth you are saying that is the problem, it is how you say it. Aren't you the one setting the rules of being cordial in our conversations again? If you are encouraging him to be rude, then it will continue.

I don sign out for this matter. Make we discuss important issues for here.

MiddyO:


Thanks. It was the Financial Counselor at Irving I spoke with though not Carrolton. Will sort it out tommorow. Tx