raumdeuter:


Which final did Henry perform in?

10d0ve:
his 2003 confederation final golden goal. Or is the confederation cup not an int'l trophy?

raumdeuter:


1. If a coach needs drop a striker who is scoring for a non scoring one then that shows there is something wrong, Maybe Lemerre knew about Henry's weak mentality or his ability to choke that was why he dropped him for the quarter, semi and finals

2. There were many places and ways he could have nodded the ball to make it harder for the keeper to save but he didnt. Isnt this absurd that a striker who started and played the whole game isnt to blame but the one who came in after 75th mins is to blame

3. No one cares about what some sites did, and you should know better than giving wikipediaas a source because I can go there and edit it right now. This is another wikipedia who claimed Zidane was MOTM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2000_Final

Totti was the official MOTM and this is straight from UEFA

FW: Francesco Totti (Italy)
The exception was 2000, when he was a revelation, scoring twice and bringing flair to the Azzurri attack. The official Man of the Match in the final, he caused the feted French back five countless problems.
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/history/memories/newsid=1627525.html

4. Arsenal were better on the night, Henry had good chances and blew them all. These are some of the chances


Above shows what Henry is noted for doing in major finals

5. Confederations cup? What cup is that, You choke at world cup EUro cup CL final FA cup and you are now talking about Confederations cup, Where the strongest opposition was a Cameroun who was mourning the loss of Marc Vivien Foe. I guess we can say thats the limit of Henry's power dominating a tournament where the strongest opponent is bereaved Cameroun

6. Without Zidane the Freekick doesnt get scored anor the PK as Henry the notorious choke artiste will blow everything

7. from what you posted it shows the commentator was expecting big things from Henry, ad has forgotten that Henry is a mental midget

8.2006 CL final.. The choke master of all time

9. See point 5

jonsnow92:
So after the match at El Madriga...Real Madrid presented The refree with a Madrid gift bag..To appreciate Him for a Job well done or what?
Pique has been right after all

usbcable:

Source?
Twitter I guess

Nihilist:
Omo see Dayo coming with facts, figures, receipts, dates, times, pie chart etc.

Even Remy Ma's diss track was not this detailed...

Eruditor:


1. That is like me saying since Zlatan was scoring goals for Pep, why did Pep fail to start him against Inter? Your argument about him being mentally weak is conjecture because he wasn't supposed to be a starter. He was one of the substitute forwards for Guivarch. And he ended up outdoing everyone else so nobody can accuse him of choking.

2. There are also many places the keeper could have dived to. Also, if a player misses a better chance than another, of course he is allowed to take a brunt of the blames.

3. I don't even care who was the official MOTM as well. Henry scored more goals than Totti (who did not score in the finals as well) besides, I was trying to show you that some others felt he played well enough to be the MOTM (which renders your choking accusations null and void again).

4. You are showing me chances were the keeper and (defenders) made saves and blocks respectively. Half the time, those chances were created by Henry's runs or skill. So how is he choking when you are seeing him playing well and forcing saves of the keeper in the highlight reel?

5. How can a top scorer in the competitions you mentioned choke. Okay so in 2003 FA Cup final where he was voted MOTM too did he choke? Or that final does not count because it was the FA cup?

6. Should we check between the two who has scored more free kicks or even penalties? Again, Henry could not have choked when his brilliant run created the Penalty. Or could Zidane make the same run?

7. No. The commentator said it to prove that from the 2nd half, the game had become a Thierry show as he was leaving Gattuso and at some point Cannavaro in his wake, whilst forcing saves and last ditch tackles of the italian defense.

8. Again Valdez is making saves. Also show the cross that put Sol Campbell with a neat header to put AFC ahead. A choke master put in the cross.

9. That is a tournament placing the winners of their respective football continents against themselves. If it was enough for Spain to lose twice and wail about, then it is big enough for Henry and France to celebrate.

raumdeuter:


Igwe na baba for Southampton and those lesser teams. Tell us aboutIgwe in major finals he played

raumdeuter:


1. Henry was supposed to be a starter that was why he started the opening game vs South Africa with Djorkaeff and Duggary. That he fell from first team shows that he was doing something wrong, EVen with the Zlatan example you gave, Zlatan was bought for an exorbitant amount, he was starting at beginning of the season, he didnt start vs Inter means he has fallen out of favor, Little wonder he was sold after season end

2. So the only time Henry can score in a final is if the keeper didnt dive or attempt it? All the strikers who scored in final, Etoo that made it a tradition of scoring in finals do you think the keepers dont attempt to save his shots?

3. You dont care who the OFFICIAL MOTM was, but you cared who the wikipedia MOTM was? Henry was a flop in that final, Ask anyone who watched it not some wikipedia input, Totti destroyed the French defence with passes. Aside the back heel that crippled the French defence for the Italian goal, he split the defence twice which Del Piero wasted

Below are some of Henrys runs in the final. It would have scored if Italy didnt have a keeper


4. Are you saying Henry will only be able to score if the keeprs dont make saves? When those strikers who score in finals didnt they have to face keepers, FYI Drogba scored his CL final goals vs Neuer who is reputed to be the best keeper of his time. How did Henry make those chances by himself. Most of them were crosses and chances placed on a plate for him and he choked hard on them

5. Choking is when you dont score at the right time, If you pad stats and are scoring in the group stages against Saudi Arabia or Hungry clubs from Bulgaria but you meet top teams and cant score, Did Ozil choke vs Bayern? Yes but he scored vs Ludogerets in the groups. How does that sound? Thats the type of argument you are making

6. Scoring when it mattered is the main thing, In 2012 CL Mario Gomez scored 12 goals, Did that stop him from choking in the final vs Chelsea when he couldnt score 1 when the team needed him most? Whts the use of those 4 goals vs Basel if he couldnt do it when it mattered

7. In the 2006 final, Henry was useless as usual. Below is one of the example of the great save. Something Buffon could have saved with his feet

8. The choke master had 2 100% chances in a CL final. what did he do with them? choked. Basically Henrys excuse us that keepers are saving all his attempts

today alone I have posted over 10 gifs of Henry in different finals and he choked in them all. Show me any other striker who had 10 1v1 chances in major finals and choked them all like Chokerry Henry

9. A full team Spain played a full team Brazil and lost. Tell us who France and Henry played in the Confed cup

Eruditor:


1. LOL. Simply false. Stephanie Guivarch was the experienced vet which everyone thought would lead France into glory. Henry was the 18 year old that was taken because of a performance against South Africa. Henry was like Martial in Euro 16 and Guivarch was like Benzema. There is no spin you can give to it. Henry was even registered as a wing forward because that was the role he played for Monaco. He overperformed by scoring 3 goals. So if Benzema is underperforming but his coach starts him against Brazil in a WC final against Martial (who they registered as a wing forward) it is because he is mentally weak or chokes?

Also, I used Zlatan to show a coach could bench a player for reasons other than football.

2. That's what you should ask yourself. If every striker is to score every chance they get then why were people calling for Bravo's head?

3. Ask anyone who watched it? Try me for example. Henry does not choke by one NLders opinion. If it was as glaring as you claimed, then why do some people rate him as the MOTM of the finals of the tournament? At least you have accepted he equalized for France in the Semis and led his team again on the scorers chat. More so, when I said I did not care who the official MOTM was, I said it from the angle that nobody can claim Henry choked (seeing that some others felt he deserved to be given the award).

Also, the gif on Henry's run is disingenuous. I can also bring gifs of Messi losing the ball on many occasions against Juve in 2015 UCL finals + he did not score. So I can claim he choked as well in that game even when he was voted MOTM?

4. This is not a Drogba vs Henry. I can as well say Neuer was poor for not saving a routine header from a corner kick but that will be simplistic. I am sure the chances you claim Henry did not make did not include his quick runs in-behind the defense? His dribbles around the last CB before facing the keeper? His control of the ball before his positioning to receive a quick one-two?

5. Apples and Oranges. So when France were winning quarter final games by Penalties Zidane choked because he did not assist or score during the regular time? Or Sanchez did not choke against Bayern because he rebounded a penalty he missed? So how did Henry still choke in UCL 06 when he assisted the goal AFC scored?

6. So what goal did Totti score in 2000? Which means he choked as he did not score when it mattered. That's the kind of argument you are making.

7. So there is no footage of Drogba making shots even Almunia would have saved with his feet in a final? How does that take away from his overall performance in that very final?

8. So why are keepers put there? You would have a case if Henry fluffed it by shooting it above the bar or off target. Valdez saved those chances. That's the only thing to take away.

9. LOL. So because RM beat Leverkusen in a UCL final it meant less than Barca who needed to beat Juventus to win it? How does that work? A Confederations cup is a Confederations cup.

SIRcumalot:

i'll tell you a whole season he bossed.

usbcable:

Source?
Twitter I guess

usbcable:
Source? Twitter I guess

dmcdad:

All Spanish dailies... Even your AS and Marca ran it too.

jonsnow92:

Its everywhere.. Just check google your answers are there staring Us in the face..
Infact in one of the links..The ref was snapped with the bags

raumdeuter:


A whole season playing league teams, You guys seem to love local champions,

usbcable:

And what did the dailies said?

Na Twitter handle he read to post it.

The news outlets post what transpired not half info that some of you peddle about.

usbcable:


And d links refused to update you on what is normal practise in spanish football?

raumdeuter:


1. In a bid to give excuse for Henry failure you called him an 18yr old, Henry was no 18yr old he was 21yrs. Thats about the same age as Ronaldo who was named best player of France 1998. Michael Owen was the 18yr old at France 98, not Thierry Henry.
Henry was not taken to the world cup because of his performance against SOuth Africa, Henry was taken to the world cup because of his performance for Monaco who went all the way to the CL semi.

Henry started the first game at the world cup vs SOuth Africa till the second round vs Paraguay after the second round Henry was thrown on to the bench, No coach will throw a performing player tothe bench at crucial moments

2. Why is it that its only Henry that keepers always use to shine at major finals, world cup Euro cup, CL final, Na only Henry dem dey use shine. The only time Henry can shine in a final is if the keepers were mourning like the Camerounian one in Confed cup 2003

3. Who were the people who will rate Henry as MOTM in the Euro 2000 final unless the person is very drunk, UEFA that gave Totti despite not scoring knows what they are doing, they were the same one who gave Iniesta in Euro 2012 without scoring

You can bring Messi not scoring in 2015, final but we will see him scoring in 2009, 2011 finals, Which major final can we bring for Henry? Only one person and at least a dozen gifs of him missing one vs one chances

4. In none of those gif did Henry take the ball from his half and drible into the opponents box. He was supplied the ball by Pires, Ljungberg, Zidane etc and he choke them all not one did he spare

5. Henry choked in 2006 final because he missed two 1 v1 chances for his team, Had Henry scored any of those Barca will go 2-0 down with less than 15mins to go. But trust Henry he choked as expected

6. Totti was not a striker he was an attacking midfielder and his job was to feed the main strikers to score. WHich he did. Plus excellent goals like the ones shown below

7. In addition to several FA cup finals the 2012 CL final Drogba did it for his team, WHen Henry got his chance, he blew it

8. Every striker can sit down there and complain how these wicked keepers are stopping them from scoring by doing their job. the only striker I know who chokes in finals is Henry. I have shown you almost a dozen moments where Henry choked 1v1 chances in major finals

9. Confederations cup is a low trophy, some teams dont even take their best players there, while CL is the biggest club competition.

Henry won the weakest NT trophy for his team, Drogba won the biggest club competition for his team

Confed cup or CL I know which one I will rather pick

bykebyke:
Enough is enough.

Sampaoli needs to knock the fück out of Leicester in the second leg.

Nihilist:


E pain Carragher though....

bykebyke:
Barcelona XI: Ter Stegen - Rafinha, Mascherano, Umtiti, Alba - Rakitic, Denis, Busquets - Messi, Suarez, Neymar.

obiorathesubtle:



Correct me if I'm wrong.. But is rafinha playing at right back?

mcdreeezy:
I think it's a 3-4-3, just like in the last match against Atletico.