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NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by Babalawos(m): 3:29pm On Feb 22, 2017
Before the advent of the Catholic missionaries and the Jihadist of Uthman dan Fodio, the Yoruba had a religion. They had their faith and believe. The Yoruba believe in Olodumare. We have our scriptures.

Despite the humongous pressure hatred and animosity of the Yoruba converts against their own religion but some of us still embrace, it because of the tremendous wisdom in it.

In the Yoruba churches and mosques today the tradition believe is always the center of the preaching. The Yoruba Christians and Muslims see the Traditional practices as evil and demonic. This attitude has created so much set back in the lives of the Yoruba people.

The Christians and the Muslims see themselves so godly while they deem the traditional believers as children of the devil. If we pay enough attention we can see the damages that this attitude has done to our development in all aspects of our lives compare to the Chinese people who embrace their culture and believes. Now the Chinese are leading the world because they believe in themselves and their traditions.

The Yoruba could be the same if only we will look back and regain our position as one of the greatest cultures of the world. Today the Yoruba that was taking and sold into slavery several hundred years ago are now reintroducing the Ifa and Orisa religion back to the indigenous Yorubas at home.

Even the Europeans and former Catholic followers did help build some of the ancient Yoruba shrine. Such example is the case of Suzzana Wenger when she dedicated her life to building the Osun shrine at Oshogbo back in the early 1970s; before it now become an international monument that our Yoruba Kings and Chiefs are now happy to reclaim.

The reason why Christianity and Islam gained ground among the ancient Yoruba traditionalists was because the Yorubas were very tolerant and accommodating group of people. The Yorubas do not like confrontations and destructions; Yoruba proverb says “Ati da ileke sodo oju laro” meaning “that we are reluctant to throw jewelries in the blender”.

For those reasons Yorubas assimilated the two foreign religions into their culture that’s why we can see the various styles and ways how they practice the foreign religions.

For example among the Christian Yorubas, we can find the Cherubim & Seraphim, the Pentecostals, the Celestial churches etc. Among the Muslims you can the Ansarudeen, Hammadiya, Isabatudeen, the Teblic Muslims etc.

Yorubas embraced the foreign religion and adjust them to their cultural ways. Now history seems to be repeating itself with the emergence of the Boko-Haram groups who are new Islamic sects that are committing the present atrocities in the Northern part of Nigeria in the name of Allah.

While the Fulani Nomads Cattle rearers are letting their cattle’s destroy farm lands of the farmers in some Yoruba land and are also rapping their women.

The people are being told to keep calm that the government will resolved them. As at yet no permanent solution to the problem. Yoruba should not go into another war we need peace and religion, tolerant and respect of other people faith among ourselves.

The reason that the Yoruba says “Aye laba fa Aye la bamole” was because Islam is called “Imole” by the Yorubas was as a result of the forceful attitude of the Jihad and the raiding of the Northern part of Africa by the Muslim Arabs in the 1700s and by Uthman dan Fodio in the 1800s.

The activities of Uthman and the Jihadist movement increased slavery and slave trade of the 1800’s. The Arabs had raided Northern Africa and captured the people as slaves since 1400s A.D. They later setup and have markets in Western and Eastern parts of African cities.

According to history prophet Mohammed the founder of Islamic Religion was born in the year 570Ads. In 1804 A.D. a Fulani scholar by the name of Uthman Dan Fodio declared a Jihad (holy war) against the Hausa State named the (Hausa Bokkoi), whose rulers he condemned for allowing Islamic practices to deteriorate.

Some of the local leaders of the Fulani received Uthman blessings and support and cleverly overthrew the Hausa rulers. The Fulani with their superior cavalries and well-organized armed forces, easily defeated the untrained and poorly equipped Hausa warriors.

They overthrew the Hausa rulers and they also conquered areas beyond the Hausa states, including Adamawa to the East and Nupe and Ilorin to the south.

Uthman Dan Fodio and his men raided most of the Northern parts of what is now Nigeria down to Ilorin. Many of the people were captured, and their belongings were looted and their homes destroyed.

Thankfully the warriors of ibadan in conjunction with the other warriors of the Yoruba land pushed the Fulani back to the place they now occupy. Many of those captured were later sold to the Portuguese and other Europeans as slaves.

Most of those slaves were transported to the Americans to work on their plantations. Also, the Christian missionaries brought Christianity to the Yoruba and systematically imposed their beliefs in Jesus Christ on the Yorubas.

They come with the philosophy and ideology of the three in one: ― the father, the son and the holy spirit. They condemned the Yorubas for their belief in idols. The Yoruba were told that their belief was wrong and evil.

They were told that they were worshiping idols although the catholic christians themselves kneel before the cross and various other images of lesser divinities such st. James st. Michael st. Mary and st. Peters just as the Yoruba do before their Orisa like Ogun, Olokun, Sango, Yemoja and so on to pray.

The Muslims face the east, where the sun rises for daily prayers and also use the half moon and the stars as their icon even though they do not have images. Every culture has its focus and beliefs.

Just like in the Christian faith as they used the cross and some of the status of the saints as icon their churches for worship to help them get closer to God; the sculpture Muslims also faces the East when the sun uses to worship. Muslims also uses the quarter moon and the stars as icon in their worship to get closer to God.

The Yorubas well uses the status of Sango’s axe, staff of Orunmilas icon in their worship to get close to God. The notion that Yoruba are idol worshippers was just a way for the converted to other foreign religion to tarnish the traditional faith so they can convert people. The Yoruba know the difference between idol and God called Olodumare.

The Yoruba called Islam Imole meaning faith believe by force and called Christianity (Igbagbo) faith by believe. Although the Yoruba received many benefit from the introduction of these new religions such as education and awareness.

Bishop Ajayi Crowther was an example of how the African converts learn to read and write. He later translated the English bible to Yoruba. Rev. Lijada was another example of one the Yoruba converted to Christianity who was also taught to read and write.

Today in many Yoruba homes the religions concept is 3 in 1 which Yoruba sometimes call (Metalokan). It is the combination of the three belief systems, Namely Traditional practice, Islamic practice and Christianity.

The idea that we were born sinners according to the Biblical stories is foreign to the Yoruba. It is also foreign to the Yorubas that human were created by God as slave or servant of God only to worship God as the Quran stated. The revelation and the notion of Ten Commandments is also a foreign concept to the Yorubas.

In Ifa, the Odus teaches that human should learn from their mistakes and pay the price or be rewarded for their deeds both here on earth and in after life. That is a reality. We must leave by the order of native.

Thank you for reading, leave a comment

Babalawos

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Re: NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by Haoqi24: 9:38pm On Feb 22, 2017
Babalawos:
Before the advent of the Catholic missionaries and the Jihadist of Uthman dan Fodio, the Yoruba had a religion. They had their faith and believe. The Yoruba believe in Olodumare. We have our scriptures.

Despite the humongous pressure hatred and animosity of the Yoruba converts against their own religion but some of us still embrace, it because of the tremendous wisdom in it.

In the Yoruba churches and mosques today the tradition believe is always the center of the preaching. The Yoruba Christians and Muslims see the Traditional practices as evil and demonic. This attitude has created so much set back in the lives of the Yoruba people.

The Christians and the Muslims see themselves so godly while they deem the traditional believers as children of the devil. If we pay enough attention we can see the damages that this attitude has done to our development in all aspects of our lives compare to the Chinese people who embrace their culture and believes. Now the Chinese are leading the world because they believe in themselves and their traditions.

The Yoruba could be the same if only we will look back and regain our position as one of the greatest cultures of the world. Today the Yoruba that was taking and sold into slavery several hundred years ago are now reintroducing the Ifa and Orisa religion back to the indigenous Yorubas at home.

Even the Europeans and former Catholic followers did help build some of the ancient Yoruba shrine. Such example is the case of Suzzana Wenger when she dedicated her life to building the Osun shrine at Oshogbo back in the early 1970s; before it now become an international monument that our Yoruba Kings and Chiefs are now happy to reclaim.

The reason why Christianity and Islam gained ground among the ancient Yoruba traditionalists was because the Yorubas were very tolerant and accommodating group of people. The Yorubas do not like confrontations and destructions; Yoruba proverb says “Ati da ileke sodo oju laro” meaning “that we are reluctant to throw jewelries in the blender”.

For those reasons Yorubas assimilated the two foreign religions into their culture that’s why we can see the various styles and ways how they practice the foreign religions.

For example among the Christian Yorubas, we can find the Cherubim & Seraphim, the Pentecostals, the Celestial churches etc. Among the Muslims you can the Ansarudeen, Hammadiya, Isabatudeen, the Teblic Muslims etc.

Yorubas embraced the foreign religion and adjust them to their cultural ways. Now history seems to be repeating itself with the emergence of the Boko-Haram groups who are new Islamic sects that are committing the present atrocities in the Northern part of Nigeria in the name of Allah.

While the Fulani Nomads Cattle rearers are letting their cattle’s destroy farm lands of the farmers in some Yoruba land and are also rapping their women.

The people are being told to keep calm that the government will resolved them. As at yet no permanent solution to the problem. Yoruba should not go into another war we need peace and religion, tolerant and respect of other people faith among ourselves.

The reason that the Yoruba says “Aye laba fa Aye la bamole” was because Islam is called “Imole” by the Yorubas was as a result of the forceful attitude of the Jihad and the raiding of the Northern part of Africa by the Muslim Arabs in the 1700s and by Uthman dan Fodio in the 1800s.

The activities of Uthman and the Jihadist movement increased slavery and slave trade of the 1800’s. The Arabs had raided Northern Africa and captured the people as slaves since 1400s A.D. They later setup and have markets in Western and Eastern parts of African cities.

According to history prophet Mohammed the founder of Islamic Religion was born in the year 570Ads. In 1804 A.D. a Fulani scholar by the name of Uthman Dan Fodio declared a Jihad (holy war) against the Hausa State named the (Hausa Bokkoi), whose rulers he condemned for allowing Islamic practices to deteriorate.

Some of the local leaders of the Fulani received Uthman blessings and support and cleverly overthrew the Hausa rulers. The Fulani with their superior cavalries and well-organized armed forces, easily defeated the untrained and poorly equipped Hausa warriors.

They overthrew the Hausa rulers and they also conquered areas beyond the Hausa states, including Adamawa to the East and Nupe and Ilorin to the south.

Uthman Dan Fodio and his men raided most of the Northern parts of what is now Nigeria down to Ilorin. Many of the people were captured, and their belongings were looted and their homes destroyed.

Thankfully the warriors of ibadan in conjunction with the other warriors of the Yoruba land pushed the Fulani back to the place they now occupy. Many of those captured were later sold to the Portuguese and other Europeans as slaves.

Most of those slaves were transported to the Americans to work on their plantations. Also, the Christian missionaries brought Christianity to the Yoruba and systematically imposed their beliefs in Jesus Christ on the Yorubas.

They come with the philosophy and ideology of the three in one: ― the father, the son and the holy spirit. They condemned the Yorubas for their belief in idols. The Yoruba were told that their belief was wrong and evil.

They were told that they were worshiping idols although the catholic christians themselves kneel before the cross and various other images of lesser divinities such st. James st. Michael st. Mary and st. Peters just as the Yoruba do before their Orisa like Ogun, Olokun, Sango, Yemoja and so on to pray.

The Muslims face the east, where the sun rises for daily prayers and also use the half moon and the stars as their icon even though they do not have images. Every culture has its focus and beliefs.

Just like in the Christian faith as they used the cross and some of the status of the saints as icon their churches for worship to help them get closer to God; the sculpture Muslims also faces the East when the sun uses to worship. Muslims also uses the quarter moon and the stars as icon in their worship to get closer to God.

The Yorubas well uses the status of Sango’s axe, staff of Orunmilas icon in their worship to get close to God. The notion that Yoruba are idol worshippers was just a way for the converted to other foreign religion to tarnish the traditional faith so they can convert people. The Yoruba know the difference between idol and God called Olodumare.

The Yoruba called Islam Imole meaning faith believe by force and called Christianity (Igbagbo) faith by believe. Although the Yoruba received many benefit from the introduction of these new religions such as education and awareness.

Bishop Ajayi Crowther was an example of how the African converts learn to read and write. He later translated the English bible to Yoruba. Rev. Lijada was another example of one the Yoruba converted to Christianity who was also taught to read and write.

Today in many Yoruba homes the religions concept is 3 in 1 which Yoruba sometimes call (Metalokan). It is the combination of the three belief systems, Namely Traditional practice, Islamic practice and Christianity.

The idea that we were born sinners according to the Biblical stories is foreign to the Yoruba. It is also foreign to the Yorubas that human were created by God as slave or servant of God only to worship God as the Quran stated. The revelation and the notion of Ten Commandments is also a foreign concept to the Yorubas.

In Ifa, the Odus teaches that human should learn from their mistakes and pay the price or be rewarded for their deeds both here on earth and in after life. That is a reality. We must leave by the order of native.

Thank you for reading, leave a comment

Babalawos

Interesting write up, I believe with time Yorubas as a people will fully awaken to the fact that "nkan ti a wa lo sokoto wa ninu sokoto wa". Africa in general will realise we should go back to the root.

One thing I will be glad is if we can learn from China and Japan. Who didn't get to forget their sourcebut learnt and made a jollof out of their culture's philosophy and the western philosophy.

It's painful to see we want to be so much like the foreigners and not develop our own. I myself am not an exception cause I was born into Christianity and far from my roots. Now I find my roots facinating but the barriers from Christianity is still something I fight with.

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Re: NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by kaja4real: 10:08pm On Feb 22, 2017
Baba nice write up, though i was born in a christian home, but the truth and fact remains that religion was forced on us, lugard and co deceived us with religion, when Portugues first came in Benin they wanted to do so, but Oba of Benin refused them, they had to leave. All in all our tradition still the best bcs foreign religion is full of contradictions and confusion
Re: NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by akintom(m): 11:08pm On Feb 22, 2017
The colonialists were able to sell the Jewish Idol easily to Nigerians, for some reasons:

*aesthetics -
the Nigerian gods were housed in dirty and foul smelling shrines.

Compare this to the beautifully decorated Jewish Idol in a furnished space.

* secrecy -
The traditional religion/rituals are shrouded in secrecy and in irrational and morbid fear.

The Jewish Idol had no such.

* human sacrifice -
Imagine the Nigerian gods eating twins.
Imagine Nigerian gods demanding human sacrifice.
All kinds of horrendous practices

The Jewish Idol representative ended all these horrific acts of Nigerian gods.


Why wouldn't the people throw away the Nigerian gods, with the maximum velocity?

Well civilization has made some babalawo to be carrying out divination on laptops now.
Babalawos now use beautifully furnished rooms as shrine now.


Religious beliefs sha!

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Re: NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by KingSango(m): 9:00pm On Feb 23, 2017
Babalawos:
Before the advent of the Catholic missionaries and the Jihadist of Uthman dan Fodio, the Yoruba had a religion. They had their faith and believe. The Yoruba believe in Olodumare. We have our scriptures.

Despite the humongous pressure hatred and animosity of the Yoruba converts against their own religion but some of us still embrace, it because of the tremendous wisdom in it.

In the Yoruba churches and mosques today the tradition believe is always the center of the preaching. The Yoruba Christians and Muslims see the Traditional practices as evil and demonic. This attitude has created so much set back in the lives of the Yoruba people.

The Christians and the Muslims see themselves so godly while they deem the traditional believers as children of the devil. If we pay enough attention we can see the damages that this attitude has done to our development in all aspects of our lives compare to the Chinese people who embrace their culture and believes. Now the Chinese are leading the world because they believe in themselves and their traditions.

The Yoruba could be the same if only we will look back and regain our position as one of the greatest cultures of the world. Today the Yoruba that was taking and sold into slavery several hundred years ago are now reintroducing the Ifa and Orisa religion back to the indigenous Yorubas at home.

Even the Europeans and former Catholic followers did help build some of the ancient Yoruba shrine. Such example is the case of Suzzana Wenger when she dedicated her life to building the Osun shrine at Oshogbo back in the early 1970s; before it now become an international monument that our Yoruba Kings and Chiefs are now happy to reclaim.

The reason why Christianity and Islam gained ground among the ancient Yoruba traditionalists was because the Yorubas were very tolerant and accommodating group of people. The Yorubas do not like confrontations and destructions; Yoruba proverb says “Ati da ileke sodo oju laro” meaning “that we are reluctant to throw jewelries in the blender”.

For those reasons Yorubas assimilated the two foreign religions into their culture that’s why we can see the various styles and ways how they practice the foreign religions.

For example among the Christian Yorubas, we can find the Cherubim & Seraphim, the Pentecostals, the Celestial churches etc. Among the Muslims you can the Ansarudeen, Hammadiya, Isabatudeen, the Teblic Muslims etc.

Yorubas embraced the foreign religion and adjust them to their cultural ways. Now history seems to be repeating itself with the emergence of the Boko-Haram groups who are new Islamic sects that are committing the present atrocities in the Northern part of Nigeria in the name of Allah.

While the Fulani Nomads Cattle rearers are letting their cattle’s destroy farm lands of the farmers in some Yoruba land and are also rapping their women.

The people are being told to keep calm that the government will resolved them. As at yet no permanent solution to the problem. Yoruba should not go into another war we need peace and religion, tolerant and respect of other people faith among ourselves.

The reason that the Yoruba says “Aye laba fa Aye la bamole” was because Islam is called “Imole” by the Yorubas was as a result of the forceful attitude of the Jihad and the raiding of the Northern part of Africa by the Muslim Arabs in the 1700s and by Uthman dan Fodio in the 1800s.

The activities of Uthman and the Jihadist movement increased slavery and slave trade of the 1800’s. The Arabs had raided Northern Africa and captured the people as slaves since 1400s A.D. They later setup and have markets in Western and Eastern parts of African cities.

According to history prophet Mohammed the founder of Islamic Religion was born in the year 570Ads. In 1804 A.D. a Fulani scholar by the name of Uthman Dan Fodio declared a Jihad (holy war) against the Hausa State named the (Hausa Bokkoi), whose rulers he condemned for allowing Islamic practices to deteriorate.

Some of the local leaders of the Fulani received Uthman blessings and support and cleverly overthrew the Hausa rulers. The Fulani with their superior cavalries and well-organized armed forces, easily defeated the untrained and poorly equipped Hausa warriors.

They overthrew the Hausa rulers and they also conquered areas beyond the Hausa states, including Adamawa to the East and Nupe and Ilorin to the south.

Uthman Dan Fodio and his men raided most of the Northern parts of what is now Nigeria down to Ilorin. Many of the people were captured, and their belongings were looted and their homes destroyed.

Thankfully the warriors of ibadan in conjunction with the other warriors of the Yoruba land pushed the Fulani back to the place they now occupy. Many of those captured were later sold to the Portuguese and other Europeans as slaves.

Most of those slaves were transported to the Americans to work on their plantations. Also, the Christian missionaries brought Christianity to the Yoruba and systematically imposed their beliefs in Jesus Christ on the Yorubas.

They come with the philosophy and ideology of the three in one: ― the father, the son and the holy spirit. They condemned the Yorubas for their belief in idols. The Yoruba were told that their belief was wrong and evil.

They were told that they were worshiping idols although the catholic christians themselves kneel before the cross and various other images of lesser divinities such st. James st. Michael st. Mary and st. Peters just as the Yoruba do before their Orisa like Ogun, Olokun, Sango, Yemoja and so on to pray.

The Muslims face the east, where the sun rises for daily prayers and also use the half moon and the stars as their icon even though they do not have images. Every culture has its focus and beliefs.

Just like in the Christian faith as they used the cross and some of the status of the saints as icon their churches for worship to help them get closer to God; the sculpture Muslims also faces the East when the sun uses to worship. Muslims also uses the quarter moon and the stars as icon in their worship to get closer to God.

The Yorubas well uses the status of Sango’s axe, staff of Orunmilas icon in their worship to get close to God. The notion that Yoruba are idol worshippers was just a way for the converted to other foreign religion to tarnish the traditional faith so they can convert people. The Yoruba know the difference between idol and God called Olodumare.

The Yoruba called Islam Imole meaning faith believe by force and called Christianity (Igbagbo) faith by believe. Although the Yoruba received many benefit from the introduction of these new religions such as education and awareness.

Bishop Ajayi Crowther was an example of how the African converts learn to read and write. He later translated the English bible to Yoruba. Rev. Lijada was another example of one the Yoruba converted to Christianity who was also taught to read and write.

Today in many Yoruba homes the religions concept is 3 in 1 which Yoruba sometimes call (Metalokan). It is the combination of the three belief systems, Namely Traditional practice, Islamic practice and Christianity.

The idea that we were born sinners according to the Biblical stories is foreign to the Yoruba. It is also foreign to the Yorubas that human were created by God as slave or servant of God only to worship God as the Quran stated. The revelation and the notion of Ten Commandments is also a foreign concept to the Yorubas.

In Ifa, the Odus teaches that human should learn from their mistakes and pay the price or be rewarded for their deeds both here on earth and in after life. That is a reality. We must leave by the order of native.

Thank you for reading, leave a comment

Babalawos


Indeed its an interesting write up, very much so. But Christianity was forced on Africans. When we accept that fact and try not to sugar coated we will go along way. I have no love for Christianity, Islam, the Bible or Quran. And I don't care nothing about no Jews or Hebrews. We have to be this way if we want to make Oyo rise again. We must become a new people and do away with this centuries of abuse. Love, Sango.

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Re: NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by Haoqi24: 9:25pm On Feb 23, 2017
KingSango:



Indeed its an interesting write up, very much so. But Christianity was forced on Africans. When we accept that fact and try not to sugar coated we will go along way. I have no love for Christianity, Islam, the Bible or Quran. And I don't care nothing about no Jews or Hebrews. We have to be this way if we want to make Oyo rise again. We must become a new people and do away with this centuries of abuse. Love, Sango.


This to me is bigger than Oyo... it's more like Yoruba
Re: NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by KingSango(m): 1:57am On Feb 24, 2017
Haoqi24:


This to me is bigger than Oyo... it's more like Yoruba


What does Yoruba mean? Do you even know? Yoruba means Oyo Oba, which is the Alaafin, Baba Sango. All Yorubas on Earth are the subjects and children of Baba Sango. Yoruba people will never get strong again until they rebuild the empire of Oyo. Neither will West Africans until they abandon these colonial Roman states. You are running two states, the colonial Nigerian Republic and traditional. How come you can't see that one of them isn't working and the other worked for thousands of years? But I digress.

But I tell you what is going to happen though, the Irunmole are going to strike hard. Lots of people have to die, it isn't just the corrupt leaders anymore, its way beyond that, but the people themselves have become wicked and are against the ancestors. The Ancestors will wipe alot of you out of the land and replenish the race with a new generation. This wrath is coming. Ase.

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Re: NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by kaja4real: 9:17am On Feb 24, 2017
Aboru Aboye. @baba and sango, what is your take on heaven and hell, i need more clarification
Re: NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by jonbellion(m): 11:44am On Feb 24, 2017
Hmmm
Though I am not Yoruba this is quite insightful
That Analice107 would soon be here to demonise everything
Mumu lipsrsealed
Re: NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by Stevebamdex(m): 10:52pm On Mar 01, 2017
KingSango:



What does Yoruba mean? Do you even know? Yoruba means Oyo Oba, which is the Alaafin, Baba Sango. All Yorubas on Earth are the subjects and children of Baba Sango. Yoruba people will never get strong again until they rebuild the empire of Oyo. Neither will West Africans until they abandon these colonial Roman states. You are running two states, the colonial Nigerian Republic and traditional. How come you can't see that one of them isn't working and the other worked for thousands of years? But I digress.

But I tell you what is going to happen though, the Irunmole are going to strike hard. Lots of people have to die, it isn't just the corrupt leaders anymore, its way beyond that, but the people themselves have become wicked and are against the ancestors. The Ancestors will wipe alot of you out of the land and replenish the race with a new generation. This wrath is coming. Ase.

Did you just say the irumoles and ancestors are going to fight ? grin after how many centuries? Were you high on cheap drugs when saying this?
Your powerless and useless irunmole that always trembles whenever the name of jesus is being mentioned? Is that one a god or cowardice clueless personality.A god that couldn't fight back when the christian missionaries were invading his territory.was he sleeping or he was just simply powerless? ..the ealier you give ur life to christ the better for you and the the clueless babalawo OP..beautiful nonsense sad.
Jesus is LORD forever.
Re: NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by Haoqi24: 2:14am On Mar 02, 2017
Stevebamdex:

Did you just say the irumoles and ancestors are going to fight ? grin after how many centuries? Were you high on cheap drugs when saying this?
Your powerless and useless irunmole that always trembles whenever the name of jesus is being mentioned? Is that one a god or cowardice clueless personality.A god that couldn't fight back when the christian missionaries were invading his territory.was he sleeping or he was just simply powerless? ..the ealier you give ur life to christ the better for you and the the clueless babalawo OP..beautiful nonsense sad.
Jesus is LORD forever.

Must you be rude?

Anyways, it's a simple law of nature that a river that forgets it's source dries up... Africans are humans and were simply seduced/persuaded with decietful measures. If you know what was conspired by the missionaries from the inception, a sane mind will ask questions.

The Gods won't do anything if we refuse to heed to their counsel.

The name Jesus I bet you have no idea the origin, I also know you have no idea the origin of the Sun of God's story. Yet you come out and speak about what you have no idea about with confidence like a zombie already programmed to destroy life (the truth)

Get woke G

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Re: NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by KingSango(m): 9:44pm On Mar 02, 2017
Stevebamdex:

Did you just say the irumoles and ancestors are going to fight ? grin after how many centuries? Were you high on cheap drugs when saying this?
Your powerless and useless irunmole that always trembles whenever the name of jesus is being mentioned? Is that one a god or cowardice clueless personality.A god that couldn't fight back when the christian missionaries were invading his territory.was he sleeping or he was just simply powerless? ..the ealier you give ur life to christ the better for you and the the clueless babalawo OP..beautiful nonsense sad.
Jesus is LORD forever.

There is no Jesus Christ.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoDe31HUOyA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIzPvErS7Dc&t=1655s

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Re: NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by Stevebamdex(m): 7:45am On Mar 03, 2017
Haoqi24:


Must you be rude?

Anyways, it's a simple law of nature that a river that forgets it's source dries up... Africans are humans and were simply seduced/persuaded with decietful measures. If you know what was conspired by the missionaries from the inception, a sane mind will ask questions.

The Gods won't do anything if we refuse to heed to their counsel.

The name Jesus I bet you have no idea the origin, I also know you have no idea the origin of the Sun of God's story. Yet you come out and speak about what you have no idea about with confidence like a zombie already programmed to destroy life (the truth)

Get woke G
JESUS is God,you had better accept that fact or you will be in danger of hell fire.he died for you on the cross for you to be saved..ogun,sango,obatala etc would never save ur soul..infact,they are powerless and also selfish gods.they have nothing good to offer humankind but to seek and destroy human lives..JESUS is LORD forever.
Re: NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by Stevebamdex(m): 7:52am On Mar 03, 2017
KingSango:


There is no Jesus Christ.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoDe31HUOyA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIzPvErS7Dc&t=1655s

Hahaha,how deluded can you be? Denying the existence of jesus is not only funny but hazardous to ur dying soul..JESUS is alive and will be forever.
the Earlier you accept that fact the better for you..ogun,sango,obatala are clueless and self center gods.
No matter how long you claim to be friends with them,they would eventually request for your head and the heads of ur loved ones.only jesus is able to give you life without consequences.accept him today.
Re: NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by kaja4real: 9:05am On Mar 03, 2017
Stevebamdex:

Hahaha,how deluded can you be? Denying the existence of jesus is not only funny but hazardous to ur dying soul..JESUS is alive and will be forever.
the Earlier you accept that fact the better for you..ogun,sango,obatala are clueless and self center gods.
No matter how long you claim to be friends with them,they would eventually request for your head and the heads of ur loved ones.only jesus is able to give you life without consequences.accept him today.
hey man, do u even know the origin of religion in Nigeria. Tell me the history of africa, how Africa came to be? Tell me why lugard and co brought religion to this country and why they brought it, i need ur answer

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Re: NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by KingSango(m): 1:03pm On Mar 03, 2017
Stevebamdex:

Hahaha,how deluded can you be? Denying the existence of jesus is not only funny but hazardous to ur dying soul..JESUS is alive and will be forever.
the Earlier you accept that fact the better for you..ogun,sango,obatala are clueless and self center gods.
No matter how long you claim to be friends with them,they would eventually request for your head and the heads of ur loved ones.only jesus is able to give you life without consequences.accept him today.


You are too concerned with death op. undecided Everyday is a good day to die, everyday is a good day to live. Olodumare created us immortal so no need to fear death. Ase.
Re: NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by NamieNamie: 6:17am On Mar 07, 2017
Haoqi24:


Interesting write up, I believe with time Yorubas as a people will fully awaken to the fact that "nkan ti a wa lo sokoto wa ninu sokoto wa". Africa in general will realise we should go back to the root.

One thing I will be glad is if we can learn from China and Japan. Who didn't get to forget their sourcebut learnt and made a jollof out of their culture's philosophy and the western philosophy.

It's painful to see we want to be so much like the foreigners and not develop our own. I myself am not an exception cause I was born into Christianity and far from my roots. Now I find my roots facinating but the barriers from Christianity is still something I fight with.


I hope one day that you and other Africans will be free from the grips and madness of Christianity which is nothing more than white supremacy. So, you want and hope to enter into heaven with a white man Jesus who did nothing whilst your ancestors were being tortured, raped, murdered and enslaved. Your somehow content with the idea of being slave on heaven and on earth to whites. he did not admonish his white children for what they did to you and your ancestors while on earth, what will he do for you in heaven.
Re: NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by NamieNamie: 6:30am On Mar 07, 2017
akintom:
The colonialists were able to sell the Jewish Idol easily to Nigerians, for some reasons:

*aesthetics -
the Nigerian gods were housed in dirty and foul smelling shrines.

Compare this to the beautifully decorated Jewish Idol in a furnished space.

* secrecy -
The traditional religion/rituals are shrouded in secrecy and in irrational and morbid fear.

The Jewish Idol had no such.

* human sacrifice -
Imagine the Nigerian gods eating twins.
Imagine Nigerian gods demanding human sacrifice.
All kinds of horrendous practices

The Jewish Idol representative ended all these horrific acts of Nigerian gods.


Why wouldn't the people throw away the Nigerian gods, with the maximum velocity?

Well civilization has made some babalawo to be carrying out divination on laptops now.
Babalawos now use beautifully furnished rooms as shrine now.


Religious beliefs sha!


You sir is a liar and an idiot black slave or a delusional lying European albino degenerate. Even if you honestly believe that the abrahamaic Gods did not part take in sacrifices, the European and the Turkish albinos (white Arabs) who beat, murdered, enslaved, raped and plundered wherever they set their hooves, surely sacrificed millions of black humans for their lands and other resources which was sanctioned by their Gods, popes and Imams.

No sacrifice in the bible you say, "Take your son, your only son – yes, Isaac, whom you love so much – and go to the land of Moriah.  Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will point out to you.” (Genesis 22:1-18) 

Leviticus 27:28-29, the Lord allows for no redemptions.  “Note also that any one of his possessions which a man vows as doomed to the Lord, whether it is a human being or an animal, or a hereditary field, shall be neither sold nor ransomed; everything that is thus doomed becomes most sacred to the Lord.  All human beings that are doomed lose the right to be redeemed; they must be put to death.”

Exodus 13:2 the Lord said “Consecrate to me every first-born that opens the womb among Israelites, both man and beast, for it belongs to me.

“The one who has stolen what was set apart for destruction will himself be burned with fire, along with everything he has, for he has broken the covenant of the LORD and has done a horrible thing in Israel.” (Joshua 7:15 NLT)


On you he will sacrifice the priests from the pagan shrines who come here to burn incense, and human bones will be burned on you.“ (1 Kings 13:1-2 NLT)


As far as dirty shrines are concerned, it was the genetically defective albinos and their gods who were living in filth. At one time, the defective albinos thought it was a good idea to eat, shit and sleep in the same spot.
Re: NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by NamieNamie: 6:35am On Mar 07, 2017
Stevebamdex:

JESUS is God,you had better accept that fact or you will be in danger of hell fire.he died for you on the cross for you to be saved..ogun,sango,obatala etc would never save ur soul..infact,they are powerless and also selfish gods.they have nothing good to offer humankind but to seek and destroy human lives..JESUS is LORD forever.

Go kill yourself you idiot slave. Why did Jesus watch while your ancestors were being beaten, murdered, raped and enslaved by the murderous race of albinos from the north? Because he did not exists. Slavery is over. Give back the white man his guru.
Re: NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by NamieNamie: 6:37am On Mar 07, 2017
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Re: NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by Haoqi24: 5:45pm On Mar 07, 2017
NamieNamie:



I hope one day that you and other Africans will be free from the grips and madness of Christianity which is nothing more than white supremacy. So, you want and hope to enter into heaven with a white man Jesus who did nothing whilst your ancestors were being tortured, raped, murdered and enslaved. Your somehow content with the idea of being slave on heaven and on earth to whites. he did not admonish his white children for what they did to you and your ancestors while on earth, what will he do for you in heaven.

I don't think you understand what I wrote
Re: NIGERIAN RELIGION ~ THE UNTOLD STORY OF A DIEING RELIGION by KingSango(m): 2:13am On Mar 08, 2017
Tell me why Blackmen suffer today?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozyZEJiig8U

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