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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:36pm On Mar 01, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


Scotland is a one team league, people only know one player I don't get the coverage u are talking about. Relegation is no reason to leave a team during the season. U have to stay and fight which is wat he did and now they are safe and his stock has risen because of that.

His stock will still rise at Celtic and MLS players do not get the amount of demand Celtic players get.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon79(m): 10:38pm On Mar 01, 2017
And Kelechi Iheanacho scores again, even though he only played for about 10 mins....

....He rarely plays but he always scores.


This dude needs a new team.


O pari

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Oasis007(m): 10:38pm On Mar 01, 2017
Iheanacho scores!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:39pm On Mar 01, 2017
Hate it or love it Iheanacho's on top.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:39pm On Mar 01, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


His stock will still rise at Celtic and MLS players do not get the amount of demand Celtic players get.
h

100% agreement.

I don't think some people understand the quality of the Scottish League and it's a great launch pad to bigger and greater things.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:42pm On Mar 01, 2017
I am at loss at the selection particularly among the strikers. I don't see one proven established quality striker from a top club.

Success is not ready Osimhen is essentially a youth player.

Why is the far more established Quality Onyekuru not on that list. ?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 10:49pm On Mar 01, 2017
Mickael2:


never judge out of context, your love for Onazi affected your judgement. Watch closely Ndidi's position when Genk scored their first, he was part of the counter. Genk played a 4-5-1, they had two dmfs and like i told you sometime ago that one sits and the other roams, i watched the first 20mins of the game again and suprise suprise, Ndidi was the roaming dmf but you want to blame him for the sitting dmf's inefficiency? Shocker.

On a side not I wouldn't even blame the sitting DMF, they conceded two quick goals and had to chase the game so he decided to push up, eitherways it's his fault and not Ndidi's fault, just like the goal in the game against Algeria was Onazi's fault and not Etebo's fault. This particular clip isn't helping you at all, show us another one
This is why I said earlier that you're biased to a fault when the name Onazi is mentioned.
It's almost unbelievable that you are using the excuse that Genk were playing 2 Dms to defend Ndidi's poor positioning but used the same stick to beat Onazi when analysing the Algerian game.

After watching this clip and you still belive Ndidi's poor positioning have never cost his team goals then I will walk away from this arguement. Clearly there's no redemption for you.

I don't want to believe you haven't realised Etebo and Onazi played as twin Dms in a 4-2-3-1 formation against Algeria.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:51pm On Mar 01, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


His stock will still rise at Celtic and MLS players do not get the amount of demand Celtic players get.

Why are u sticking to MLS? I said Scotland is not as competitive as the MLS, i didn't say he should go there. As u saw the likes of chelsea and arsenal are after him so celtic should be out the picture. France would be a better option but right now Belgium is best for him as we are not complaining about Ndidi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:59pm On Mar 01, 2017
komekn:
h

100% agreement.

I don't think some people understand the quality of the Scottish League and it's a great launch pad to bigger and greater things.

There is only one quality team in Scotland.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 11:00pm On Mar 01, 2017
nacho scored 5-1
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:12pm On Mar 01, 2017
tbaba1234:


Alright, I mentioned this earlier. Ndidi attempts riskier passes too often and sometimes loses possession as a result. But he is a better shield than Onazi and commits less fouls.
Ogenyi Onazi Summary
Ogenyi Onazi (born December 12, 1992) is a Midfielder for Trabzon and wears the shirt number 17. At 24 years of age he is 170cm tall and weighs 65kg. Onazi has a BMI of 22.5.
This season Onazi has made 19 appearances in the Turkish Super Lig .
Onazi has a Squawka rating of 5 stars out of 5 with a Performance Score of 79. His best game of the season was against Kasimpasa S.K. where he earned a Performance Score of 125 . His worst game this term was against Galatasaray where he accrued a score of -50 .
Onazi, in the Turkish Super Lig , has scored two goals this season, creating 16 chances and no assists. Onazi has completed 646 passes this season with a pass accuracy of 78%, of which 87% were forward
http://www.squawka.com/players/ogenyi-onazi/stats#performance-score#trabzonspor-(current)#turkish-super-lig#115#season-2016/2017#715#all-matches#1-21#by-match
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Nothing more riskier than making forward passes. I believe this is one for the reasons why works well with Mikel who is more of a recycler,since he's too adventurous making forward passes.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:14pm On Mar 01, 2017
Mickael2:


never judge out of context, your love for Onazi affected your judgement. Watch closely Ndidi's position when Genk scored their first, he was part of the counter. Genk played a 4-5-1, they had two dmfs and like i told you sometime ago that one sits and the other roams, i watched the first 20mins of the game again and suprise suprise, Ndidi was the roaming dmf but you want to blame him for the sitting dmf's inefficiency? Shocker.

On a side not I wouldn't even blame the sitting DMF, they conceded two quick goals and had to chase the game so he decided to push up, eitherways it's his fault and not Ndidi's fault, just like the goal in the game against Algeria was Onazi's fault and not Etebo's fault. This particular clip isn't helping you at all, show us another one

Oostende 6:0 KRC Genk ● Belgium Jupiler League 27…:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeoH1wpgzKM

Ndidi was out of the picture in the 3rd and 4th goals.
Do you still belive Ndidi's poor positioning have never cost his team goals?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:35pm On Mar 01, 2017
goldfish80:

Ogenyi Onazi Summary
Ogenyi Onazi (born December 12, 1992) is a Midfielder for Trabzon and wears the shirt number 17. At 24 years of age he is 170cm tall and weighs 65kg. Onazi has a BMI of 22.5.
This season Onazi has made 19 appearances in the Turkish Super Lig .
Onazi has a Squawka rating of 5 stars out of 5 with a Performance Score of 79. His best game of the season was against Kasimpasa S.K. where he earned a Performance Score of 125 . His worst game this term was against Galatasaray where he accrued a score of -50 .
Onazi, in the Turkish Super Lig , has scored two goals this season, creating 16 chances and no assists. Onazi has completed 646 passes this season with a pass accuracy of 78%, of which 87% were forward
http://www.squawka.com/players/ogenyi-onazi/stats#performance-score#trabzonspor-(current)#turkish-super-lig#115#season-2016/2017#715#all-matches#1-21#by-match
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Nothing more riskier than making forward passes. I believe this is one for the reasons why works well with Mikel who is more of a recycler,since he's too adventurous making forward passes.

When i say riskier passes, i do mean just forward passes, I mean difficult passes. It is actually a flaw in Ndidi. He is not a Pirlo, at least not yet.

I think, both players can complement each other but in a direct comparison, at the moment, i rate Ndidi higher.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:40pm On Mar 01, 2017
goldfish80:

This is why I said earlier that you're biased to a fault when the name Onazi is mentioned.
It's almost unbelievable that you are using the excuse that Genk were playing 2 Dms to defend Ndidi's poor positioning but used the same stick to beat Onazi when analysing the Algerian game.

After watching this clip and you still belive Ndidi's poor positioning have never cost his team goals then I will walk away from this arguement. Clearly there's no redemption for you.

I don't want to believe you haven't realised Etebo and Onazi played as twin Dms in a 4-2-3-1 formation against Algeria.

if you haven't realized that in a twin dmf formation one is called the sitting dmf and the other is called the sitting dmf then you don't understand the twin dmf system I am sorry to say. now read what I typed again and you will understand that I said that Etebo was the roaming dmf and Onazi was the sitting dmg, then browse the meaning of a sitting dmf and a roaming dmf because it appears as if you do not underatand

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:44pm On Mar 01, 2017
goldfish80:

This is why I said earlier that you're biased to a fault when the name Onazi is mentioned.
It's almost unbelievable that you are using the excuse that Genk were playing 2 Dms to defend Ndidi's poor positioning but used the same stick to beat Onazi when analysing the Algerian game.

After watching this clip and you still belive Ndidi's poor positioning have never cost his team goals then I will walk away from this arguement. Clearly there's no redemption for you.

I don't want to believe you haven't realised Etebo and Onazi played as twin Dms in a 4-2-3-1 formation against Algeria.

if you haven't realized that in a twin dmf formation one is called the sitting dmf and the other is called the sitting dmf then you don't understand the twin dmf system I am sorry to say. now read what I typed again and you will understand that I said that Etebo was the roaming dmf and Onazi was the sitting dmg, then browse the meaning of a sitting dmf and a roaming dmf because it appears as if you do not understand
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 11:49pm On Mar 01, 2017
Mickael2:


if you haven't realized that in a twin dmf formation one is called the sitting dmf and the other is called the sitting dmf then you don't understand the twin dmf system I am sorry to say. now read what I typed again and you will understand that I said that Etebo was the roaming dmf and Onazi was the sitting dmg, then browse the meaning of a sitting dmf and a roaming dmf because it appears as if you do not underatand
In a twin DM, when one presses forward, the other sits and vice versa.
Joel and Mikel played this to perfection in 2012.
By the way, you never acknowledged Onazi and Etebo were Dm's. You said Etebo played in a box to box and I can't recall Etebo making a run into the Algerian box ala Ramsey.

By the at have you watched the second video I tagged you? What do you have to say about the 3rd and 4th goal and Ndidi's positioning on the two goals.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:37am On Mar 02, 2017
goldfish80:

In a twin DM, when one presses forward, the other sits and vice versa.
Joel and Mikel played this to perfection in 2012.
By the way, you never acknowledged Onazi and Etebo were Dm's. You said Etebo played in a box to box and I can't recall Etebo making a run into the Algerian box ala Ramsey.

By the at have you watched the second video I tagged you? What do you have to say about the 3rd and 4th goal and Ndidi's positioning on the two goals.

I didn't see the formation they played in the second game so I can't decide like that.

In some teams when one roams the other sits, in other teams one sits permanently and the other roams permanently. You do understand that the job description of a roaming dmf isn't far away from that of a box to box ,that's what Etebo was doing in that game,playing as a roaming dmf/box to box hybrid to contain the Algerians .

it is not every single box to box that arrives like that into the box. Iniesta has been deployed as Barcelona's box to box a few times this season yet he hasn't scored a goal from there or even attempted a shot at all because he'd rather stay in midfield and control. in that game we needed to control the midfield to starve Mahrez
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:42am On Mar 02, 2017
goldfish80:

In a twin DM, when one presses forward, the other sits and vice versa.
Joel and Mikel played this to perfection in 2012.
By the way, you never acknowledged Onazi and Etebo were Dm's. You said Etebo played in a box to box and I can't recall Etebo making a run into the Algerian box ala Ramsey.

By the at have you watched the second video I tagged you? What do you have to say about the 3rd and 4th goal and Ndidi's positioning on the two goals.

you said that Mikel was the box to box, we told you that he was the Amf, that Etebo was the box to box, and I am still saying it now, his primary duty was as a box to box but because of his engine he was able to cover the entire field. again not all box to box midfielders arrive like that all the time, Modric rarely arrives like that into the box but he is a box to box. it depends on what the coach wants

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 3:26am On Mar 02, 2017
goldfish80, What are your thoughts on Uche Agbo? The guy has a very impressive pass% and was impressive again..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 4:53am On Mar 02, 2017
Contrary to reports in various Nigerian football websites, the only player that received a debut invitation among the 25 players picked by Super Eagles coach, Gernot Rohr to prosecute Nigeria’s international friendlies this month, is Noah Joel Sarenren Bazee. The likes of Victor Osimhen, Tyrone Ebuehi and Isaac Success have all been earlier invited by the Franco-German tactician, although they were not capped eventually.

Hence, we will start our analysis by sharing some statistics of the Germany-born player, and consider why he is expected to add some bite and provide options in the Super Eagles attack formation...

http://spotkik.com/2017/03/01/the-analysis-rohrs-new-pick-noah-joel-bazee/
[img][/img]

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:19am On Mar 02, 2017
Big congrats to Iheanacho for showing he is still one of the deadliest finishers in the game. His goal per minute ratio is phenomenal. Although it was a tough conversion. Iheanacho looks so skinny. A testament to how hard he worked despite his lack of playing time. Amazing discipline from the young man.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 5:27am On Mar 02, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Big congrats to Iheanacho for showing he is still one of the deadliest finishers in the game. His goal per minute ratio is phenomenal. Although it was a tough conversion. Iheanacho looks so skinny. A testament to how hard he worked despite his lack of playing time. Amazing discipline from the young man.

Goal is good for Kelechi's confidence but I still think, he should leave. This is a game that he should have been given more minutes.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 5:47am On Mar 02, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Big congrats to Iheanacho for showing he is still one of the deadliest finishers in the game. His goal per minute ratio is phenomenal. Although it was a tough conversion. Iheanacho looks so skinny. A testament to how hard he worked despite his lack of playing time. Amazing discipline from the young man.
I'm actually happy to see that he got thinner, suggests discipline and that he's probably keeping his head up.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:30am On Mar 02, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
Big congrats to Iheanacho for showing he is still one of the deadliest finishers in the game. His goal per minute ratio is phenomenal. Although it was a tough conversion. Iheanacho looks so skinny. A testament to how hard he worked despite his lack of playing time. Amazing discipline from the young man.
I love the look on that yeye Spanish man's face

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:14am On Mar 02, 2017
tbaba1234:


Goal is good for Kelechi's confidence but I still think, he should leave. This is a game that he should have been given more minutes.

Difficult to argue with you because aside from development, Nacho needs to build a reputation in this business. Nacho did not get more minutes because of the cancelled weekend game. The City players were rested and fresh. I hope he notches more minutes.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:18am On Mar 02, 2017
bataderemi:

I'm actually happy to see that he got thinner, suggests discipline and that he's probably keeping his head up.

It could also be stress.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:40am On Mar 02, 2017
tbaba1234:


When i say riskier passes, i do mean just forward passes, I mean difficult passes. It is actually a flaw in Ndidi. He is not a Pirlo, at least not yet.

I think, both players can complement each other but in a direct comparison, at the moment, i rate Ndidi higher.

This I think also. Onazi as the CM while Ndidi as the DM.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:40am On Mar 02, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


It could also be stress.

Hardwork and Discipline. Guardiola wants his players as light as possible with intense drills and light diet. Seems Iheanacho is soaking the lessons.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:43am On Mar 02, 2017
It was also nice watching Nacho celebrate Navas for the assist.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:45am On Mar 02, 2017
tbaba1234:
goldfish80, What are your thoughts on Uche Agbo? The guy has a very impressive pass% and was impressive again..

Yes, he is improving.
But I cannot stick my neck out for him yet in being a starter for the Super Eagles.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by EmmGee: 9:50am On Mar 02, 2017
TheGoodJoe:
It was also nice watching Nacho celebrate Navas for the assists.
This man. You're a big kelechi fan smiley

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 11:19am On Mar 02, 2017
Joebie:
Contrary to reports in various Nigerian football websites, the only player that received a debut invitation among the 25 players picked by Super Eagles coach, Gernot Rohr to prosecute Nigeria’s international friendlies this month, is Noah Joel Sarenren Bazee. The likes of Victor Osimhen, Tyrone Ebuehi and Isaac Success have all been earlier invited by the Franco-German tactician, although they were not capped eventually.

Hence, we will start our analysis by sharing some statistics of the Germany-born player, and consider why he is expected to add some bite and provide options in the Super Eagles attack formation...

http://spotkik.com/2017/03/01/the-analysis-rohrs-new-pick-noah-joel-bazee/
[img][/img]
any body with his video highlight pls

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