Mujtahida:

Granted that Ronaldo and Messi have exceptional talent but for just these two to dominate the scene for this long shows the dearth of quality players in this email. By the way I do not agree that Zidane and Ronaldo were on the same level with the players you mentioned.

Humility017:



I wish him quick recovery.
hopefully after the under 20 world cup this year.....most of this English born Nigerians..they can then easily agree to switch allegiance...

Humility017:
I have been following your threads on Nigeria football for close to a year now as a guest, just signed in on nairaland...I really appreciate your knowledge, in depth analysis of Nigeria football.
to sir Icon4, Goodjoe, Komekun, Joseph, Forgiveness, Tlaba, and safarigal and lot's more...
I am glad and really happy to join you here.
thanks for making this thread worthwhile

joseph1013:




Anyway, back to the Eagles. I'm disappointed with this list. Osimhen has no place in the team, neither does Shehu, or Muhammed Musa, or Awaziem. We need to encourage players playing regularly. I expected to see Sone Aluko. And since the Nigerian league is in session, we should have called up players playing in the local league for Osimhen, Musa and Awaziem. I watched a NPFL game the other day and my, the quality has come up. I heard StarTimes is now sponsoring the NNL, we have to encourage these projects.

I keep repeating that there are excellent players in the NPFL, and I know someone like komekn will shoot back that they are overaged. Doesn't matter. If you are good enough, you are young enough. There is no reason why that guy that scored the CNN goal of the week cannot be invited to camp. This is how to develop the league. That La Liga has even partnered with the league and there are players already leaving for the best league in the world shows we are doing a world of disservice to them.

I was pained to see that 25-year old Rangers guy go to Sweden, he has no reason to go there based on his quality. He is better than some of these players we see in the french league. If he had been recognized and played by past coaches, I am positive that he would have performed. Someone with the quality of Nwobodo is rotting away in the league and we are inviting Osimhen who has not played a single game of professional football. SMH

tbaba1234:


Shehu and Awaziem are playing regularly, though in less fancied leagues.

I believe the invitation of Osimhen, Musa, Awaziem and Sarenren is geared towards 2018 than their immediate use to the team. I think the coach has a future vision. If you read his interview with fifa.com, he expressed a willingness to work with the youth.

The coach has always invited Shehu Abdullah, his versatility is an asset to any coach. He has seen him up close several times and continues to invite him so there's some quality there.

As regards the home based players, that is what Salisu and Imamah are there for, they are supposed to suggest the best league players for Rohr. The fact that they are still calling Ezenwa is problematic because he is no longer first choice at his club. Are these local coaches doing their jobs?

Apart from the absence of Onyekuru and Brian Idowu, it is a decent list. I am not satisfied with the Goalkeeper list too.

Humility017:
I have been following your threads on Nigeria football for close to a year now as a guest, just signed in on nairaland...I really appreciate your knowledge, in depth analysis of Nigeria football.
to sir Icon4, Goodjoe, Komekun, Joseph, Forgiveness, Tlaba, and safarigal and lot's more...
I am glad and really happy to join you here.
thanks for making this thread worthwhile

joseph1013:


Messi and Ronaldo would have dominated in the Zidane, Ronaldo era. Their domination now does not show the dearth of quality players, it shows how lucky folks like Ronaldinho were. In fact, you constantly hear them say that these two are the best they have seen and wished they played with them.

Based on the quality they bring to the team at their prime, Zidane is not far away from Xavi and Iniesta. People forget how Iniesta and Xavi were eclipsed for the top award just by being teammates with Messi.

Based on sheer quality, Ronaldo de Lima is not far away from Zlatan. If Zlatan was born a Brazilian in the Ronaldo era, he would have won the World Cup. There is nothing Ronaldo would have done to win the Euros with this Swedish team. In fact based on sheer consistency in churning out the numbers, Zlatan beats him. Everywhere Zlatan went, he was banging in goals and all his teammates and coaches recognize the value and extraordinarily leadership he brings on the team. Ronaldo is more skilful and has more pace, but sheer leadership, strength and aerial prowress, Zlatan is miles ahead.

Anyway, back to the Eagles. I'm disappointed with this list. Osimhen has no place in the team, neither does Shehu, or Muhammed Musa, or Awaziem. We need to encourage players playing regularly. I expected to see Sone Aluko. And since the Nigerian league is in session, we should have called up players playing in the local league for Osimhen, Musa and Awaziem. I watched a NPFL game the other day and my, the quality has come up. I heard StarTimes is now sponsoring the NNL, we have to encourage these projects.

I keep repeating that there are excellent players in the NPFL, and I know someone like komekn will shoot back that they are overaged. Doesn't matter. If you are good enough, you are young enough. There is no reason why that guy that scored the CNN goal of the week cannot be invited to camp. This is how to develop the league. That La Liga has even partnered with the league and there are players already leaving for the best league in the world shows we are doing a world of disservice to them.

I was pained to see that 25-year old Rangers guy go to Sweden, he has no reason to go there based on his quality. He is better than some of these players we see in the french league. If he had been recognized and played by past coaches, I am positive that he would have performed. Someone with the quality of Nwobodo is rotting away in the league and we are inviting Osimhen who has not played a single game of professional football. SMH

do4luv14:
lolzzz, nah dat day Cameroon go hear vren

terzurum5:


@bolded.
Why do you think so ?

joseph1013:


Messi and Ronaldo would have dominated in the Zidane, Ronaldo era. Their domination now does not show the dearth of quality players, it shows how lucky folks like Ronaldinho were. In fact, you constantly hear them say that these two are the best they have seen and wished they played with them.

Based on the quality they bring to the team at their prime, Zidane is not far away from Xavi and Iniesta. People forget how Iniesta and Xavi were eclipsed for the top award just by being teammates with Messi.

Based on sheer quality, Ronaldo de Lima is not far away from Zlatan. If Zlatan was born a Brazilian in the Ronaldo era, he would have won the World Cup. There is nothing Ronaldo would have done to win the Euros with this Swedish team. In fact based on sheer consistency in churning out the numbers, Zlatan beats him. Everywhere Zlatan went, he was banging in goals and all his teammates and coaches recognize the value and extraordinarily leadership he brings on the team. Ronaldo is more skilful and has more pace, but sheer leadership, strength and aerial prowress, Zlatan is miles ahead.

Anyway, back to the Eagles. I'm disappointed with this list. Osimhen has no place in the team, neither does Shehu, or Muhammed Musa, or Awaziem. We need to encourage players playing regularly. I expected to see Sone Aluko. And since the Nigerian league is in session, we should have called up players playing in the local league for Osimhen, Musa and Awaziem. I watched a NPFL game the other day and my, the quality has come up. I heard StarTimes is now sponsoring the NNL, we have to encourage these projects.

I keep repeating that there are excellent players in the NPFL, and I know someone like komekn will shoot back that they are overaged. Doesn't matter. If you are good enough, you are young enough. There is no reason why that guy that scored the CNN goal of the week cannot be invited to camp. This is how to develop the league. That La Liga has even partnered with the league and there are players already leaving for the best league in the world shows we are doing a world of disservice to them.

I was pained to see that 25-year old Rangers guy go to Sweden, he has no reason to go there based on his quality. He is better than some of these players we see in the french league. If he had been recognized and played by past coaches, I am positive that he would have performed. Someone with the quality of Nwobodo is rotting away in the league and we are inviting Osimhen who has not played a single game of professional football. SMH

Humility017:
I have been following your threads on Nigeria football for close to a year now as a guest, just signed in on nairaland...I really appreciate your knowledge, in depth analysis of Nigeria football.
to sir Icon4, Goodjoe, Komekun, Joseph, Forgiveness, Tlaba, and safarigal and lot's more...
I am glad and really happy to join you here.
thanks for making this thread worthwhile

enomakos:
they go fear

Icon4s:


You have a valid point there. Rohr is not just building a team to achieve results today he is also building a team that will continue to stay on top.

As for Onyekuru, maybe Rohr feels we have enough wings options for now. I mean, with the likes of Iwobi, Moses, Musa, Success and Simon. For now I dnt believe Onyekuru can offer more than what the available wingers can. Also Onyekuru is pretty young and we are not at risk of losing him to any other country. He would most likely get his own call up in subsequent games this year.

As for Idowu, I also feel he is trying not to invite too many new players that he would not field. He probably had to chose between inviting Ebuehi and Idowu. Ebuehi may slip from our hands if we dnt move now but as for Idowu we already have him in our bag. He will likely get a call-up in our subsequent games.

forgiveness:



Let us be truthful to ourselves. Why on earth will a coach leave out one of the best performing players churning in MOTM right left center for players who are anonymous even in an obscure league or academy?

Why Osimhen and not Onyekuru?

Why Isaac and not Aluko?

Why Aweriem and not Otigba?

Why Musa and not Brain?

Why invite inactive Ikechuckwu and not Nwokolor?

Nonsense Nigerian coaches are influencing Rohr's decisions.

Humility017:



they wanna star in the under 20 world cup... don't forget England will be featuring in the tournament.. and some of them have already established themselves in the team...
they wanna play and possible see if it gives them a route to 3 Lions squad....which I believe some will begin to see the 3 lions dreams not feasible

terzurum5:


England of all Countries does not take FIFA Youth tournaments serious. They have a system for Youth Football development that yields result more than the FIFA U17, U20 & U23.

They have a better platform to showcase their youth talent.

komekn:


I would not completely agree with you. For the first time in I don't know how long.

England won the Toulon 2016 tournament beating France in the finals. What was different athleticism, flair and skill. And my biased opinion way more black players than ever ever before, coming from the top clubs essentially the cream of English youth football.

tbaba1234:
According to Owngoalnigeria.com, these were the home based players suggested to Rohr.

The List:

Mohammed Mohammed (ABS)

Destiny Ashadi (Katsina United)

Chigozirim Metu (ABS)

Sikiru Olatubosun ( MFM FC)

Ikechukwu Ezenwa ( Ifeanyi Uba FC)

Sunday Adetunji ( Abia Warriors)

terzurum5:

This the 5th time England is winning the Toulon Tournament Since its inception in 1967.

Toulon Tornament is not a FIFA organised tournament.

England does not take FIFA under age tournaments that serious like other Countries do. Maybe due to their effective youth league and academies that serve as a good training ground for raising talents and super stars.

So tell me the aspect you do not agree with completely.

forgiveness:



Let us be truthful to ourselves. Why on earth will a coach leave out one of the best performing players churning in MOTM right left center for players who are anonymous even in an obscure league or academy?

Why Osimhen and not Onyekuru?

Why Isaac and not Aluko?

Why Aweriem and not Otigba?

Why Musa and not Brain?

Why invite inactive Ikechuckwu and not Nwokolor?

Nonsense Nigerian coaches are influencing Rohr's decisions.

tbaba1234:
According to Owngoalnigeria.com, these were the home based players suggested to Rohr.

The List:

Mohammed Mohammed (ABS)

Destiny Ashadi (Katsina United)

Chigozirim Metu (ABS)

Sikiru Olatubosun ( MFM FC)

Ikechukwu Ezenwa ( Ifeanyi Uba FC)

Sunday Adetunji ( Abia Warriors)

Icon4s:


Osimhen for Onyekuru bc we are more in need of strikers than wingers,
Awaziem for Otigba bc Otigba has largely been inactive this season. Besides, he is also grooming youngsters to ensure continuity. Osimhen and Awaziem may not make the Matchday squad
Like I said earlier he probably was torn in-between inviting Ebuehi and Idowu. He does nt want to field two debutants in the defense in one game. He have picked Ebuehi in this game, Brian could be called in a next game.

Ikechukwu inactive how? A palyer I saw in goal in one of last weekend's NPFL games.

And to ur last statement. Yes, Rohr is working with a team of coaches but he is in control. I like his choice of players for these two friendlies.

BascoVanVeli:


I wouldn't say they don't take it seriously. The players are there but get beat. England is just not good enough at the world youth level.

BascoVanVeli:


The answer is that no one u named would be a sure starter and so the coach would rather continue with the ones he has. I think the NPFL has a better case than any other league. Our local guys have been smashing and its sad that none of that got rewarded.

terzurum5:

When you take stock of players like Chuba Akpom, Alex Iwobi, Dominic Solanke, Dele Alli, Tammy Abraham, Ojo, Ibe, etc who were all eligible to play in the previous FIFA U17 or FIFA U20. You will discover that if they were a bit serious, they should get to atleast the finals, looking at the quality of talents their youth system churn out every now and then. That is why I concluded they do not take FIFA under age tournaments serious.

They have good home grown players both in academies, the championship and even in the premier league. So what stops them from going to these tournaments for the Gold

terzurum5:

When you take stock of players like Chuba Akpom, Alex Iwobi, Dominic Solanke, Dele Alli, Tammy Abraham, Ojo, Ibe, etc who were all eligible to play in the previous FIFA U17 or FIFA U20. You will discover that if they were a bit serious, they should get to atleast the finals, looking at the quality of talents their youth system churn out every now and then. That is why I concluded they do not take FIFA under age tournaments serious.

They have good home grown players both in academies, the championship and even in the premier league. So what stops them from going to these tournaments for the Gold