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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 8:42am On Mar 04, 2017
Pelosi denied Meeting with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, It turns out She actually did grin grin Liberal Hypocrisy beyond measure
Karma is a b*tch, I tell u. Let the games begin!!
Merely pointing out their hypocrisy now has always proved to be utter fruitless and a waste of time, Trump needs to start investigating these clowns. Hillary Clinton sold Uranium to Russia and used d money to fund her Foundation. Trump will return fire with fire.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 9:47am On Mar 04, 2017
Missy89:
Liberals jolly just come cold warriors need to understand that their hysteria is not helping.

Lol... Each time I want to laugh a bit, I come here to my liberal friends...It is either a loss to white supremacists or a loss to the Russiangate...Lol. I don't even know what to take from them anymore..

The hysteria is deafening.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 10:17am On Mar 04, 2017
Appleyard:


Lol... Each time I want to laugh a bit, I come here to my liberal friends...It is either a loss to white supremacists or a loss to the Russiangate...Lol. I don't even know what to take from them anymore..

The hysteria is deafening.
Lol, They lost d election in every front - both houses of congress, and are still bitter about it. They control nothing, so d best weapon they can utilise is to dig up anything that looks like a dirt, throw tantrums and hope Americans are stupid enough to sympathise with them, Lol, 2018 will be worse I tell you.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 11:26am On Mar 04, 2017
obixcel:
Pelosi denied Meeting with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, It turns out She actually did grin grin Liberal Hypocrisy beyond measure
Karma is a b*tch, I tell u. Let the games begin!!
Merely pointing out their hypocrisy now has always proved to be utter fruitless and a waste of time, Trump needs to start investigating these clowns. Hillary Clinton sold Uranium to Russia and used d money to fund her Foundation. Trump will return fire with fire.

I think its already happening. there is news that Trump has ordered investigation into Pelotsi meeting with the Russians.. Is becoming a tit for tat show..

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by schwarzkopf(m): 11:38am On Mar 04, 2017
Appleyard:


I think its already happening. there is news that Trump has ordered investigation into Pelotsi meeting with the Russians.. Is becoming a tit for tat show..


Are the drumpfist just all numbskulls?? Like chuck Schumer rightly said, the meetings with Russians by dnc goons were done in public under the glee of media and all discussion under records and oaths. And no one is lying about that in the Senate under oaths. Kushner and Flynn meetings was secret in the drumpf towers without media or anyone knowing his entry and exit plus the fact that sessions used campaign funds in finance his trip to meet rus amb. Plus the fact that he was the only one in the twenty men fire arms committee to meet the amb. But y'all bushbabies are too brain dead to even see with your damn blind eyes.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 2:06pm On Mar 04, 2017
Appleyard:


I think its already happening. there is news that Trump has ordered investigation into Pelotsi meeting with the Russians.. Is becoming a tit for tat show..
You told me once you are a Lawyer if my memory is correct. America is a country governed by The Rule of Law unlike a Third World country. You are always jumping in American politics with your friends and unfortunately you guys don't have a clue about the happenings here without Googling. The problem is not meeting with the Russian ambassador, the problem is lying about it under oath. It's a law in America to lie under oath and I don't know why you guys can't comprehend that. A lot of people have gone to jail for lying under oath. You Nigerian Trump a*s lickers never ceases to amaze me with your ignorance. Y'all should leave American politics to those in the know and worry about the politics in The Titanic.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 2:08pm On Mar 04, 2017
schwarzkopf:



Are the drumpfist just all numbskulls?? Like chuck Schumer rightly said, the meetings with Russians by dnc goons were done in public under the glee of media and all discussion under records and oaths. And no one is lying about that in the Senate under oaths. Kushner and Flynn meetings was secret in the drumpf towers without media or anyone knowing his entry and exit plus the fact that sessions used campaign funds in finance his trip to meet rus amb. Plus the fact that he was the only one in the twenty men fire arms committee to meet the amb. But y'all bushbabies are too brain dead to even see with your damn blind eyes.
Plus Sessions lied under Oath. That's very critical.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 2:14pm On Mar 04, 2017
Appleyard:


I think its already happening. there is news that Trump has ordered investigation into Pelotsi meeting with the Russians.. Is becoming a tit for tat show..
What, American President can't order an investigation just like that Appleyard, this is America not your semi dictatorial Russia. What is wrong with you thinking like the cave men we are used to here. Please don't join the league of cave men shouting hoarse about a country they don't know squat about.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 2:17pm On Mar 04, 2017
obixcel:
Pelosi denied Meeting with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, It turns out She actually did grin grin Liberal Hypocrisy beyond measure
Karma is a b*tch, I tell u. Let the games begin!!
Merely pointing out their hypocrisy now has always proved to be utter fruitless and a waste of time, Trump needs to start investigating these clowns. Hillary Clinton sold Uranium to Russia and used d money to fund her Foundation. Trump will return fire with fire.
Cave Skunk, was Hillary under oath ?. That's the difference and she met with the ambassador publicly and never denied it. You wouldn't know that because I guess your Google machine is not working.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 5:17pm On Mar 04, 2017
Obama wire-tapped Trump tower just before d Election - Trump revealed grin grin No wonder!!
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 6:28pm On Mar 04, 2017
Trump and his administration of law&order. gringrin

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 6:30pm On Mar 04, 2017
obixcel:
Obama wire-tapped Trump tower just before d Election - Trump revealed grin grin No wonder!!
Says Trump * Google *.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 6:36pm On Mar 04, 2017
Why is the President tweeting classified information? (If true since it's being alleged that it was done via a FISA warrant)

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 6:38pm On Mar 04, 2017
1bkaye:
Why is the President tweeting classified information? (If true since it's being alleged that it was done via a FISA warrant)

Rhetorical question? grin

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 6:39pm On Mar 04, 2017
schwarzkopf:



Are the drumpfist just all numbskulls?? Like chuck Schumer rightly said, the meetings with Russians by dnc goons were done in public under the glee of media and all discussion under records and oaths. And no one is lying about that in the Senate under oaths. Kushner and Flynn meetings was secret in the drumpf towers without media or anyone knowing his entry and exit plus the fact that sessions used campaign funds in finance his trip to meet rus amb. Plus the fact that he was the only one in the twenty men fire arms committee to meet the amb. But y'all bushbabies are too brain dead to even see with your damn blind eyes.

No, but a GREAT number of them. When I read why some of them now regret having voted for him, I cannot believe anyone can be this dvmb and still survive. cheesy

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 6:39pm On Mar 04, 2017
Mindfulness:


Rhetorical question? grin
Lool grin

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by schwarzkopf(m): 6:58pm On Mar 04, 2017
obixcel:
Obama wire-tapped Trump tower just before d Election - Trump revealed grin grin No wonder!!

Shiit started by breitbart and have been disputed by ex snr intelligence guys. Like drumpf your brain is faulty.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 7:57pm On Mar 04, 2017
obixcel:
Obama wire-tapped Trump tower just before d Election - Trump revealed grin grin No wonder!!

No wonder they know about Trump and Russia right? LoL

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 2:27am On Mar 05, 2017
schwarzkopf:



Are the drumpfist just all numbskulls?? Like chuck Schumer rightly said, the meetings with Russians by dnc goons were done in public under the glee of media and all discussion under records and oaths. And no one is lying about that in the Senate under oaths. Kushner and Flynn meetings was secret in the drumpf towers without media or anyone knowing his entry and exit plus the fact that sessions used campaign funds in finance his trip to meet rus amb. Plus the fact that he was the only one in the twenty men fire arms committee to meet the amb. But y'all bushbabies are too brain dead to even see with your damn blind eyes.

Pelotsi said she HAS NEVER FOR ONCE met with the Russians.....NEVER FOR ONCE. ..... be it in public or in secret.. But the revelations prove her wrong.....
I didn't say never...She said it herself...grin Is that too hard to understand? grin
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Appleyard(m): 2:30am On Mar 05, 2017
Lucasbalo:
What, American President can't order an investigation just like that Appleyard, this is America not your semi dictatorial Russia. What is wrong with you thinking like the cave men we are used to here. Please don't join the league of cave men shouting hoarse about a country they don't know squat about.

His comments on twitter alluded to that. .....That's why I said so...
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 2:41am On Mar 05, 2017
Appleyard:


His comments on twitter alluded to that. .....That's why I said so...
It is one of many misstatements he's used to.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 8:30am On Mar 05, 2017
Lucasbalo:
It is one of many misstatements he's used to.

LordReed:


No wonder they know about Trump and Russia right? LoL

schwarzkopf:


Shiit started by breitbart and have been disputed by ex snr intelligence guys. Like drumpf your brain is faulty.

And nobody is talking about Sessions and Russia anymore. Trump and his team deflected successfully ... as always .....

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 8:36am On Mar 05, 2017
Mindfulness:






And nobody is talking about Sessions and Russia anymore. Trump and his team deflected successfully ... as always .....

did they really?

the foolish man has declared war on the media. he is clearly invested in multiple scandals. the press will keep digging.
the Washington bureaucracy, ho have seen what he stands for [chaos , nepotism, oligarchy and corruption] will continue leaking

its a matter of time before there is a revelation that is so damning that team trump will have a meltdown with their attempts to justify.

i could be wrong though - republicans and their supporters have always been the greatest hypocrites using one set of laws and standards for themselves, and a draconian set for others.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 8:41am On Mar 05, 2017
http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-obama-obsession-235681

Donald Trump just can't quit Barack Obama.

From entering politics as the chief promoter of the birtherism conspiracy—complete with claims of mysterious calls coming in to him with new information to detectives he claimed he sent to Hawaii but were never heard from again—to waking up Saturday morning tweeting, “How low has President Obama gone to tapp [sic] my phones,” Obama’s always there.

There’s a political advantage to it—Obama is just as infuriating a figure as he was six weeks ago to the Republican base and the pro-Trump media that powered the president’s campaign.

And there’s a diversionary advantage to churning up a new controversy that this time takes away airtime and mindshare from the questions of just how many top administration officials had just how many undisclosed meetings with Russian officials. But there also seems to be a true sense in Trump’s mind that Obama is practically sitting beneath the floorboards of the West Wing, chipping away at his presidency.

So much for Trump trying to make them out as buddies.

“I was tough on him, he was tough on me, and I like him, he likes me. I think he likes me. I mean, you're going to have to ask him, but I think he likes me,” Trump said in an interview with Sean Hannity shortly after the inauguration. A few weeks later in an interview with Bill O’Reilly, that had morphed into, "We get along. I don’t know if he’ll admit this, but he likes me.”

“This is Nixon/Watergate. Bad (or sick) guy!” Trump tweeted Saturday morning.

And it’s not just the Russia furor that has Trump bringing up Obama. The list goes on: complaints about a rocky transition that Trump backtracked on the day he made them, crowds at the inauguration that he said were bigger than Obama's despite immediate evidence to the contrary, insisting that the raid in Yemen in which a Navy SEAL was killed was put through by Obama though it was ordered by him.

White House press secretary Sean Spicer did not respond Saturday morning to questions about whether he knows of a reason why Obama is on the president’s mind so much, or whether Trump still thinks he has a good relationship with Obama. Obama’s current spokespeople also declined to respond about the current status of the relationship, or whether they’ve continued to talk on the phone as they were doing with some frequency during the transition.


Kevin Lewis, a spokesman for Obama, aggressively pushed back against Trump's accusations. "A cardinal rule of the Obama Administration was that no White House official ever interfered with any independent investigation led by the Department of Justice," Lewis said in a statement. "As part of that practice, neither President Obama nor any White House official ever ordered surveillance on any U.S. citizen. Any suggestion otherwise is simply false."

The Obama circle continues to be frustrated that Trump’s comments are taken seriously, in the same way they were when Trump was taking potshots from the sidelines while Obama was in the White House.

“No President can order a wiretap. Those restrictions were put in place to protect citizens from people like you,” tweeted Ben Rhodes, the former deputy national security adviser who’s working for Obama in his new office.

Responding to Trump’s tweet that “I'd bet a good lawyer could make a great case out of the fact that President Obama was tapping my phones in October, just prior to Election!” Rhodes tweeted, “No. They couldn't. Only a liar could do that.”

Exasperated and annoyed, Obama aides try to cast their problem with Trump continually pulling their old boss into the conversation as about more than politics.

“My concern about Trump isn’t his day-to-day nonsense, it’s the notion that he could be governed by conspiracy theories and paranoia in a time of actual crisis,” said Bill Burton, former deputy White House press secretary for Obama. “All the rest of this is just the mutterings of a man deeply in over his head.”

“No surprise he’s trying to change the subject, but this kind of diversionary maneuver works better in a campaign than in government when you have to deal in facts, and in this area, some very bad facts,” said Anita Dunn, who was a White House communications director for Obama.
Trump greets former President Barack Obama during the presidential inauguration.


Trump’s accusation of his predecessor Saturday hit a new high, but not one out of step even in a week centered on an address to a joint session of Congress that was strategically less aggressive and to many seemed like the high point of his presidency so far.

Asked in his pre-address interview on Fox & Friends about the protests going on at Republican lawmakers’ town halls, Trump said, “I think he is behind it.” Asked about the leaks of national security information, Trump said, “I think that President Obama is behind it because his people are certainly behind it.”

And then in the speech to Congress, Trump tweaked some statistics as he urged, “we must honestly acknowledge the circumstances we inherited,” including the number of people out of the workforce, the debt racked up under Obama, the trade deficit and “a series of tragic foreign policy disasters.”

There are elements of undeniable truth to Trump’s claims: Organizing for Action, the group formed out of Obama’s old campaign apparatus, is helping organize some of the protests, and some of the leaks appear to have been coming from people in career positions who served during the Obama administration. As has been made partially public, there was a massive intelligence investigation into the Trump campaign's possible ties to Russia, elements of which have continued to leak. And despite Obama’s efforts toward a smooth transition and so far holding to the presidential tradition of not criticizing his successor, he couldn’t have been clearer that he didn’t want Trump anywhere near the Oval Office.

But even as Trump has lodged severe claims against his predecessor, the president has not offered evidence directly implicating Obama, who’s spending most of his days in his new Washington office setting up his foundation and preparing to write a book that he signed a multi-million dollar deal for this week.

If there was a wiretap, after all, Trump now has the authority as president to make it public. Matt Miller, a former Justice Department spokesman under Attorney General Eric Holder, tweeted, “By confirming it publicly, Trump has also pretty much guaranteed no one can be charged for leaking the existence of this FISA warrant. Oops!”

As is usually the case, Trump’s supporters in the conservative media gave him all he seems to feel he needs. The Twitter fury that Trump greeted the world with Saturday morning appears to have wormed its way from conservative radio host Mark Levin to White House chief strategist Steve Bannon’s former Breitbart News website to the president pecking out on his phone, “Just found out that Obama had my ‘wires tapped’ in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!”

Very quickly, he got an echo from a reliable source.

“What did OBAMA know and when did he know it??” Hannity wrote on Twitter.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 12:04pm On Mar 05, 2017
oyb:


did they really?

the foolish man has declared war on the media. he is clearly invested in multiple scandals. the press will keep digging.
the Washington bureaucracy, ho have seen what he stands for [chaos , nepotism, oligarchy and corruption] will continue leaking

its a matter of time before there is a revelation that is so damning that team trump will have a meltdown with their attempts to justify.

[s]i could be wrong though - republicans and their supporters have always been the greatest hypocrites using one set of laws and standards for themselves, and a draconian set for others.[/s]

Maybe and hopefully and possibly.

My point is, however, that Trump and his cronies try to deflect the attention from Jeff Sessions and his business with Russia to Obama's unproven wire-tapping. We should ignore some of the nonsense he posts and focus on what he does not want us to focus on.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 12:31pm On Mar 05, 2017
Mindfulness:






And nobody is talking about Sessions and Russia anymore. Trump and his team deflected successfully ... as always .....

Not sure it is a successful deflection yet, there have been more and more calls for an investigation/special investigator.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 2:10pm On Mar 05, 2017
Appleyard:


Pelotsi said she HAS NEVER FOR ONCE met with the Russians.....NEVER FOR ONCE. ..... be it in public or in secret.. But the revelations prove her wrong.....
I didn't say never...She said it herself...grin Is that too hard to understand? grin
The difference you seem not to understand is UNDER OATH. It's unlawful in America to lie under oath. No matter what Pelosi said, she wasn't under oath like our Attorney General.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 2:14pm On Mar 05, 2017
americans in the one chance

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 3:34pm On Mar 05, 2017
oyb:
americans in the one chance

LoL! The Republican Jones one is just so poignant.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 3:44pm On Mar 05, 2017
LordReed:


Not sure it is a successful deflection yet, there have been more and more calls for an investigation/special investigator.

He redirects the public discourse. It is important to note that this is the strategy behind his sic.k tweets.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 5:08pm On Mar 05, 2017
Mindfulness:


He redirects the public discourse. It is important to note that this is the strategy behind his sic.k tweets.

I decided to follow him on Twitter and I can say the guy needs a night nurse.

I agree though that he attempts to redirect the discourse but I think its only adding fuel to the fire. He is just like Yaardua claiming strongly that he wasn't sick up until his deathbed.

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