Please I want to ask a question.


1) When God created Lucifer didn't he know that He will later rebel against him. ( Since he can see the future)


2) Why didn't God forgive Lucifer when he rebelled against him. (Bible teaches us to always forgive those who did bad to us)




Please I need answers. Thank you

I guess because he didn't ask for forgiveness; he only gave excuses. As for the first question, I have no idea.

Do u know dat long after his disobedience, he was still left up to enjoy the privileges in heaven?

U remember the time of job? He came to heaven among worshipers when God saw him and they talked about job.

That's by the way. God is supreme, u must b willing and ask for forgiveness to be forgiven.

The problem isn't that God will not forgive Satan; the problem is that Satan will not stop fighting God. Even now he is trying any means He can used to Over throne God..

1. Lucifer was reported to be a proud angel.
God hates pride. He just can't stand a proud person.

2. Scan through the Bible front and back, never is it on record that God refused or rejected a plea for mercy. We were not told that Lucifer pleaded. If he had, who knows God wouldnt have rejected it. The difference between David and Eli was that the former always asked for mercy each time he trespassed while the latter said "He is God let Him do what He deems fit.

FIRST we need to remind you that it is we humans and other creations that function under LAWS..... GOD IS ABOVE THE LAWS HE GIVES US!!!! That is why HE IS GOD.

NEXT, God does not react or plan the way we do. I WILL NOT DEFEND GOD BUT I WILL EXPLAIN IT THIS WAY, whenever God does anything he has already finished it in HIS AWESOME MIND, so the temporal betrayals and every possible event has already been considered and yet HIS ULTIMATE plan would not FAIL no matter what happens in the process.... THAT IS THE PROWESS OF HIS OMNIPOTENT POWER AND INFINITE AUTHORITY!!!

The ability to venture into a business or a creative structure after carefully considering all possible delays,failures and OUTCOMES would only make the END more WONDERFUL..... That is GOD!!!

NOW THE BIBLE SAYS AS HEAVEN IS FAR FROM EARTH SO ARE HIS WAYS ARE FAR FROM OUR WAYS AND HIS THOUGHTS FROM OUR THOUGHTS..... This should show you that the devil in all his craftiness and mayhem he is causing on earth is still in the grand design of God, and may even be wasting the TIME he could have used to repent!!!

Jesus the son of God knew Judas was a thief and still allowed him to be the treasurer. This shows that Jesus learned it from God. God does not throw away the things he created if they go bad, rather HE finds another use for them.


NOW TO YOUR SECOND QUESTION...lolzzzzz
GOD HAS ACTUALLY FORGIVEN THE DEVIL.... But most of us humans do not know that FORGIVENESS is not ACCEPTANCE.
EVERY ONE WHO IS IN HELL TODAY has been FORGIVEN..... but didnt get accepted. This may not make sense but i will explain

YOU SEE, GOD'S NATURE is LOVE.... but Love is not a fool. You can forgive a person and never be the person's friend again so that you do not give them the chance to HURT YOU AGAIN.
Forgiveness does not also mean the consequences are taken away.... THE DEVIL IS ONLY IN THE CONSEQUENCE OF HIS BETRAYAL.... Hell is the only vacant zone he can live in..
This is why we need to understand that there is mighty difference between FORGIVENESS and REPENTANCE.... most Christians ask God to Forgive without REPENTING. Forgiveness is an offer of mercy but REPENTANCE is where the real CHANGE IN THE PERSONALITY has OCCURRED!!!! iT WOULD BE EASY FOR THE DEVIL TO REPENT but once PRIDE entered him there was no way he could change unless through CONSEQUENCES!!!

The bible even has no cure for PRIDE!!!! This is why it is one of the most deadly sins that even HOLY MEN OF GOD COMMIT WITHOUT KNOWING.

Look at it this way.... the Government can forgive boko haram and militants BUT accepting them back without any consequence or reprimand for their crimes is not possible.

THE ONES WHO WERE ACCEPTED ARE THOSE WHO CAME WILLINGLY TO DROP THEIR ARMS at the Government house!!!!

I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND GOD NOW. ALL I HAVE SAID IS PROVEN IN SCRIPTURES ALL THROUGH The Old n New testament.... Pls do your research and Confirm it.

AkachukwuD:
Please I want to ask a question.


1) When God created Lucifer didn't he know that He will later rebel against him. ( Since he can see the future)


2) Why didn't God forgive Lucifer when he rebelled against him. (Bible teaches us to always forgive those who didn't bad to us)




Please I need answers. Thank you

fav444:
1. Lucifer was reported to be a proud angel.
God hates pride. He just can't stand a proud person.

2. Scan through the Bible front and back, never is it on record that God refused or rejected a plea for mercy. We were not told that Lucifer pleaded. If he had, who knows God wouldnt have rejected it. The difference between David and Eli was that the former always asked for mercy each time he trespassed while the latter said "He is God let Him do what He deems fit.

God is going to reject the eternal pleas of mercy of the people in hell. So you're wrong

first misconception, Lucifer is a 'she' not a He...secondly, the bible never said there is only one God....Lucifer is the Goddess of wisdom, she is known as Aphrodite by the Greeks, Venus by the Romans, Inanna by the Babylonians, Olokun by the edo/Bini.....and believe it or not, she is Mary the mother of Jesus...she is also the who.re of Babylon and the subject of Isaiah 47....

she and Marduk are sworn enemies....

sonmvayina:
first misconception, Lucifer is a 'she' not a He...secondly, the bible never said there is only one God....Lucifer is the Goddess of wisdom, she is known as Aphrodite by the Greeks, Venus by the Romans, Inanna by the Babylonians, Olokun by the edo/Bini.....and believe it or not, she is Mary the mother of Jesus...she is also the who.re of Babylon and the subject of Isaiah 47....

she and Marduk are sworn enemies....

Hahaha

adepeter26:

Hahaha

just listen and make up your mind....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G4Gd7qyQu0

AkachukwuD:
Please I want to ask a question.


1) When God created Lucifer didn't he know that He will later rebel against him. ( Since he can see the future)


2) Why didn't God forgive Lucifer when he rebelled against him. (Bible teaches us to always forgive those who did bad to us)




Please I need answers. Thank you

With this your name, your questions are disappointing

1) God doesn't create villains. All that the Lord creates is good but we all have the freedom of choice , we can chose between good or bad. God created Lucifer because he had a chance to chose good, God knew this and God gave him that chance

2) If God didn't forgive Lucifer why is he still alive? Lucifer is not interested in repentance, he is vile, a trickster and a liar, he has made his number one job the destruction of souls. Can such a creature repent? Also evil never goes unpunished where God is concerned

Lucifer is not a proper name of any being...it is a title of a woman...it means light bearer...Accordinng to John 8:12, jesus is the light...so that makes Mary his mother Lucifer or the light bearer....

Pidgin2:


With this your name, your questions are disappointing

1) God doesn't create villains. All that the Lord creates is good but we all have the freedom of choice , we can chose between good or bad. God created Lucifer because he had a chance to chose good, God knew this and God gave him that chance

god is omniscient, right?

Mrbigman1:
Do u know dat long after his disobedience, he was still left up to enjoy the privileges in heaven?

U remember the time of job? He came to heaven among worshipers when God saw him and they talked about job.

That's by the way. God is supreme, u must b willing and ask for forgiveness to be forgiven.

But, even Man never asked for forgiveness. In fact, till today, Man has never asked for forgiveness for that sin. God provided a ransome for Man without man acknowledge his sins. Man only wanted to get back to God only because he wanted his kingdom which he lost to Lucifer back, he was and has never been really remorseful for what he did.


So, yeah, the question still remains, why didn't God forgive Satan? Lets hear.

hopefulLandlord:

god is omniscient, right?

Right. Bring it on.

analice107:

Right. Bring it on.

did he know lucifer would sin against him or not?

did he know lucifer would tempt eve into eating the fruit or not

did he know eve would eat the apple or not?

did he know eve would give Adam the apple or not?

does god know what I'll drink before I sleep? (I'm contemplating drinking 1 out of 7 options I have)

AkachukwuD:
Please I want to ask a question.

2) Why didn't God forgive Lucifer when he rebelled against him. (Bible teaches us to always forgive those who did bad to us)

Please I need answers. Thank you

The better question is has Satan asked to be forgiven ?

hopefulLandlord:


did he know lucifer would sin against him or not?

did he know lucifer would tempt eve into eating the fruit or not

did he know eve would eat the apple or not?

did he know eve would give Adam the apple or not?

does god know what I'll drink before I sleep? (I'm contemplating drinking 1 out of 7 options I have)

Let's start from here. Does God exists?

god needs an opposer to be relevant..

God's forgiveness is only for the beings created with flesh, it is not for the spiritual creatures, neither is it for the spirits who can transform themselves into flesh... Once you are out of flesh the forgiveness is no longer for you. SATAN is only on this earth recieving punishment, he can not ask for forgiveness because there are no such provision for the erred spirits.

Perfect answer.

Mrbigman1:
Do u know dat long after his disobedience, he was still left up to enjoy the privileges in heaven?

U remember the time of job? He came to heaven among worshipers when God saw him and they talked about job.

That's by the way. God is supreme, u must b willing and ask for forgiveness to be forgiven.

God is not a God of the dead but of the living. If Hitler or Gaddafi or Osama asked for mercy while alive, God would have forgiven them. That's how merciful God us.

People in hell don't ask for mercy because they're sorry for they sins but because of the fire.

randomperson:

God is going to reject the eternal pleas of mercy of the people in hell. So you're wrong

Another good answer.

Valey:
God's forgiveness is only for the beings created with flesh, it is not for the spiritual creatures, neither is it for the spirits who can transform themselves into flesh... Once you are out of flesh the forgiveness is no longer for you. SATAN is only on this earth recieving punishment, he can not ask for forgiveness because there are no such provision for the erred spirits.

analice107:

Let's start from here. Does God exists?

this question has no bearing to the discussion you said I should "bring on"

now answer the questions please

Pidgin2:


With this your name, your questions are disappointing

1) God doesn't create villains. All that the Lord creates is good but we all have the freedom of choice , we can chose between good or bad. God created Lucifer because he had a chance to chose good, God knew this and God gave him that chance

2) If God didn't forgive Lucifer why is he still alive? Lucifer is not interested in repentance, he is vile, a trickster and a liar, he has made his number one job the destruction of souls. Can such a creature repent? Also evil never goes unpunished where God is concerned

What was his purpose for creating hell

Pidgin2:


With this your name, your questions are disappointing

1) God doesn't create villains. All that the Lord creates is good but we all have the freedom of choice , we can chose between good or bad. God created Lucifer because he had a chance to chose good, God knew this and God gave him that chance

2) If God didn't forgive Lucifer why is he still alive? Lucifer is not interested in repentance, he is vile, a trickster and a liar, he has made his number one job the destruction of souls. Can such a creature repent? Also evil never goes unpunished where God is concerned

Ewoo, hw wrong was God to KNOW that lucifer might choose good, after seeing he/God failed he still kept his failure/lucifer alive.. . What a all knowing and loving God.

Lucifer is just an example of insubordination. Insubordination hasn't the capacity to be subordinate. And God keeps Subordination and Insubordination parallel and handles them separately to soothe His Pleasures. Are you jealous of that?

hopefulLandlord:


this question has no bearing to the discussion you said I should "bring on"

now answer the questions please

Hopefullanland, if you accuse God of anything, He must of necessity exist first right?

Now, this is the discussion ongoing..., Does God exists?

analice107:

Hopefullanland, if you accuse God of anything, He must of necessity exist first right?
Now, this is the discussion ongoing..., Does God exists?

I could accuse Jack in Titanic of being foolish, I could accuse Prince Geoffrey of being a wicked king

they don't "of necessity" have to exist for anyone to discuss them

now answer my questions and stop throwing red herrings

Pastafarian:


I could accuse Jack in Titanic of being foolish, I could accuse Prince Geoffrey of being a wicked king

they don't "of necessity" have to exist for anyone to discuss them

now answer my questions and stop throwing red herrings

Why then aren't you obsessed with these characters and what they do or do not do, instead of Yahweh? You sound like a child, and am done giving attention to you.