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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by pazienza(m): 11:16pm On Mar 04, 2017
There we have it, the Yoloba Fajuyi falsehood, dead and buried.
Now the discussion can continue.

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by SIRTee15: 1:13am On Mar 05, 2017
pazienza:


Victoria was in the room. She never saw what transpired. She is only re echoing what she read in SW Western newspapers, if only to win contracts and appointments for herself and children from Nigeria.

See ur life........
Victoria was not even in Ibadan that night......
U can't even comprehend an article of less than 5 thousand words.......
No wonder okorocha said u guys don't read.....
Radio Biafra is now the main source of information in the east.....

Go back n read the article.....
Then come back n engage intellectually.....

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by pazienza(m): 1:17am On Mar 05, 2017
SIRTee15:


See ur life........
Victoria was not even in Ibadan that night......
U can't even comprehend an article of less than 5 thousand words.......
No wonder okorocha said u guys don't read.....
Radio Biafra is now the main source of information in the east.....

Go back n read the article.....
Then come back n engage intellectually.....


Silly! What does it matter?
No one has time to read garbage.
She was not an eye witness and so in no position to comment on Ironsi and Fajuyi last moments on Earth.

Its as simple as that.

Leave the poor widow hustling for contracts and positions for herself and children in this poor Nigerian economic climate alone and face the facts placed before you.

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by SIRTee15: 1:57am On Mar 05, 2017
pazienza:


Silly! What does it matter?
No one has time to read garbage.
She was not an eye witness and so in no position to comment on Ironsi and Fajuyi last moments on Earth.

Its as simple as that.

Leave the poor widow hustling for contracts and positions for herself and children in this poor Nigerian economic climate alone and face the facts placed before you.

If u are not ready to read....
Then no point arguing with trolls like u.......
U are not worth it......
Besides here is another eye witness account.....

https://www.nairaland.com/3260253/adekunle-fajuyi-betrayed-aides-sister

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by SIRTee15: 2:02am On Mar 05, 2017
pazienza:


Silly! What does it matter?
No one has time to read garbage.
She was not an eye witness and so in no position to comment on Ironsi and Fajuyi last moments on Earth.

Its as simple as that.

Leave the poor widow hustling for contracts and positions for herself and children in this poor Nigerian economic climate alone and face the facts placed before you.

My duty is to educate u, not argue....
Here is what Jeremiah useni has to say about fajuyi and the counter-coup


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/09/killed-ironsi-installed-gowon-jeremiah-useni/

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by ItsMeAboki(m): 2:27am On Mar 05, 2017
gartamanta:


I agree with all this and I even said that Ironsi took some powers from the Regions and centralised Government.


What I disagree with is this talk that Ironsi abolished and dissolved the 4 Regions?

How could he have done tbis but all 4 Regions were still in existence a full year after he died?

How can someone abolish something but it still exists?

Ironsi changed the rules of the game, he did not change the game its self

I don't know how you could still continue arguing along this line (going around in circles).

Are you denying that Ironsi did not enact decree 34 on 24 May 1966 or that decree 34 was a lie because it did not exist?
Are you also denying that decree 34 did not replace the regions with provinces (which he called Group of Provinces); if not, then what is your point?

Ok, lets even assume he did not; that he only centralised the government?

Please then tell me, isn't stripping the regions off their independence and making them answerable to the central government exactly the fundamental difference and mistake we have inherited from his legacy till today?

Even Wikipedia had this to say about Ironsi and decree 34:

Though Ironsi tried to dispel this notion by courting the aggrieved ethnic groups through political appointments and patronage, his failure to punish the coup plotters and the promulgation of the now infamous "Decree No. 34"—which abrogated the country's federal structure in exchange for a unitary one— crystallized this conspiracy theory.[12]

Kindly then explain what the above in bold pertaining to the decree meant?

So what are we talking about?

Were Igbos not the first to derail our democracy by military coup, restructure and tamper with our governance system and therefore ultimately responsible for our present wahala?

In short, they were the ones that upset the apple cart for which they are now blaming northerners for - take it or leave it.

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by ItsMeAboki(m): 2:42am On Mar 05, 2017
Dedetwo:


It is unfortunate you are very slow and could not be able to differentiate the idiotic caption by the goofy writer and what actually took place.

I have a befitting caricature for you.

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by pazienza(m): 9:25am On Mar 05, 2017
SIRTee15:


My duty is to educate u, not argue....
Here is what Jeremiah useni has to say about fajuyi and the counter-coup


http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/09/killed-ironsi-installed-gowon-jeremiah-useni/


Never in that interview did he exonerate Fajuyi involvement in the coup, nor did he say that Fajuyi was begging for Ironsi life.

Ademoyega, Nwankwo, William walbe narratives on Fajuyi all corroborates each other and are all in Consonance with rationality.

Civil war analysts like Max Sillioun and even controversial Omogui all agree with that.

Your Fajuyi was a marked man for death.

You can't educate anyone, when you are so intellectually deficient.

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by pazienza(m): 9:33am On Mar 05, 2017
"Fajuyi later sent me outside the government House to find out what was happening. I met Danjuma, who was then a major and he was my friend. He pretended he didn’t know what was happening, he was asking me, and I said I didn’t know. While I was trying to go back, one sergeant from Benue almost shot me, but Danjuma stopped him and spoke to him in Hausa. Danjuma later told me that he would like to see Ironsi, so that he could tell them what to do. "It was then that Fajuyi came out to find out what was holding me, and there inside the Government House Danjuma ordered for his arrest and mine too. That was when I saw Walbe. Then Fajuyi asked me to take him to Ironsi so that they will obey him, that there should be only one person in charge. So, I took them to Ironsi, and major Newman, immediately he saw Ironsi, he seized his crocodile swagger stick, and then they started asking him about the January coup, he said he didn’t know about it that he only agreed to be Head of State so that he can restore confidence and normalcy. It was immediately they arrested Ironsi that they turned violent". The road to the valley of death They marched us down, Ironsi and myself, to where Fajuyi was. They used telephone cable to tie my hands behind and my legs, with a little space to walk. Same they did to Ironsi, but they removed his shirt, he wore only trousers, they also tied Fajuyi. Ironsi was in a Land Rover, Fajuyi in a mini bus and myself in another bus. They drove us towards Iwo Road, 10 km from Ibadan, there was a small forest were they stopped, marched us to the right hand side of the bush, Fajuyi was leading and as he tried to cross a small stream, he fell down, the soldiers were unruly, it appeared some of them had for the first time taken Indian hemp, so when he fell down some of them started beating him.

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by pazienza(m): 9:33am On Mar 05, 2017
My escape As Fajuyi fell down and they were beating him, Sanni Bello came to me and tapped me and said, we could do something now. It was providence, may be I was not destined to die. I took a few steps from them and jumped into a nearby ditch, all in a split of a second, Bello came and stood by the ditch and was shouting that I had escaped pointing at another direction. So the soldiers ran around that direction shooting into the bush, and when they felt they must have killed me, they shot Fajuyi and then Ironsi there, by the side of the stream. So Bello made sure that he was the last to leave the place.
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by pazienza(m): 9:39am On Mar 05, 2017
Nwankwo mentioned Walbe and Danjuma in his account below..

And he made it clear that Fajuyi was marked for death too. He can't plead for anyone life when it was he that was marked for death.

Now let's see what Danjuma and Walbe said about Fajuyi.]Lt. Col. William Walbe (rtd) said:
“……..We arrested him as we arrested Ironsi.We suspected him of being party to the January coup.You remember the Battle Group Course which was held at Abeokuta….Fajuyi was the Commander of the Battle Group Course…All those who took part in the January coup were those who had taken part in that course.It gave us the impression that the Battle Course was arranged for the January coup, so he had to suffer it too. I am sorry about that but that is the nature of the life of a military man……..”




General Danjuma confirms this opinion.He says that at another training camp in Kachia commanded by Lt. Col. Fajuyi, Major Nzeogwu rehearsed the assault on Sardauna’s house in the presence of some northern mortar officers who did not appreciate the significance of the exercise until after the coup.In Danjuma’s words:

“The chaps could not stomach Fajuyi such that if there was anybody who should die first, as far as they were concerned, it was Fajuyi, not even Ironsi.”
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by pazienza(m): 9:44am On Mar 05, 2017
Even Ademoyega agreed that Fajuyi was in support of the coup and actually did make suggestions to the coup planners.

Fajuyi was also instrumental to why Ironsi didn't immediately prosecute the coup boys when the coup failed, because he kept pleading on their behalf before Ironsi. An action that angered the Northern soldiers, erasing any doubt they had about his involvement in the coup a and placing him high in their death llist.

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by pazienza(m): 9:56am On Mar 05, 2017
We also considered arresting him at his lodge
before he goes to meet with them. Col. Adekunle
Fajuyi was the governor of South West at the
time, and the head of state, Ironsi, was staying in
his house in Ibadan. So we don’t want a
situation where they would say he conspired with
us. So we decided the best thing to do was to
open fire there even if Governor Fajuyi was also
caught, so that they would just be buried
together, and that was what happened.


This was the part of Useni interview you are disfiguring in typical Yoloba agenda to fit into your falsehood and propaganda.

Useni was simply trying to exonerate Fajuyi involvement in their choosing of his house to arrest both him and Ironsi.
He wasn't exonerating Fajuyi from his involvement in the coup as we now know through Walbe, Danjuma, Nwankwo,and Ademoyega that Fajuyi was neck deep involved in the coup and was even higher on the Northern death list than Ironsi.


Yolobas must realize that this is ICT age, and that this generation of Igbo youths are aggressive and with lots of precedence from our front runners to learn from and avoid their mistakes. Especiallly regarding their docility in tackling Yoloba media assassination of Igbo history.

We won't allow any Igbophobic falsehood by any Igbophobic group or persons in Nigeria go unchallenged and not exposed as falsehoods using facts and everything else, Yes!

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by SIRTee15: 10:47am On Mar 05, 2017
pazienza:
We also considered arresting him at his lodge
before he goes to meet with them. Col. Adekunle
Fajuyi was the governor of South West at the
time, and the head of state, Ironsi, was staying in
his house in Ibadan. So we don’t want a
situation where they would say he conspired with
us. So we decided the best thing to do was to
open fire there even if Governor Fajuyi was also
caught, so that they would just be buried
together, and that was what happened.


This was the part of Useni interview you are disfiguring in typical Yoloba agenda to fit into your falsehood and propaganda.

Useni was simply trying to exonerate Fajuyi involvement in their choosing of his house to arrest both him and Ironsi.
He wasn't exonerating Fajuyi from his involvement in the coup as we now know through Walbe, Danjuma, Nwankwo,and Ademoyega that Fajuyi was neck deep involved in the coup and was even higher on the Northern death list than Ironsi.


Yolobas must realize that this is ICT age, and that this generation of Igbo youths are aggressive and with lots of precedence from our front runners to learn from and avoid their mistakes. Especiallly regarding their docility in tackling Yoloba media assassination of Igbo history.

We won't allow any Igbophobic falsehood by any Igbophobic group or persons in Nigeria go unchallenged and not exposed as falsehoods using facts and everything else, Yes!

Common be honest for once.......
U willfully ommited the place where useni n his co-murderers were worried about shooting Ironside in the midst of northern emirs in Ibadan.......
Fearing a bullet may hit one of the emirs.....
That won't go well with their vengeance mission, they already had too many of their own dead......
This proves they were looking for an acceptable n convenient collateral damage in any case Ironside won't go down alone.......
Of ourselves, fajuyi was a good option......
And that was exactly what useni inferred........
Now according to you, the coup plotters wanted to exonerate fajuyi's house but not fajuyi himself......
Please, what's so special about the house that the northern boys deemed fit to exonerate......
If fajuyi was on their menu list, they will get him......
It doesn't matter if he was with Ironside at the govt lodge or not.......
They will still look for him and kill him....
So all those things u conjured up there are after thought.......

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by gartamanta: 10:54am On Mar 05, 2017
ItsMeAboki:


I don't know how you could still continue arguing along this line (going around in circles).

Are you denying that Ironsi did not enact decree 34 on 24 May 1966 or that decree 34 was a lie because it did not exist?
Are you also that decree 34 did not replace the regions with provinces (which he called Group of Provinces); if not, then what is your point?

Ok, lets even assume he did not; that he only centralised the government?

Please then tell me, isn't stripping the regions off their independence and making them answerable to the central government exactly the fundamental difference and mistake we have inherited from his legacy till today?

Even Wikipedia had this to say about Ironsi and decree 34:

Though Ironsi tried to dispel this notion by courting the aggrieved ethnic groups through political appointments and patronage, his failure to punish the coup plotters and the promulgation of the now infamous "Decree No. 34"—which abrogated the country's federal structure in exchange for a unitary one— crystallized this conspiracy theory.[12]

Kindly then explain what the above in bold pertaining to the decree meant?

So what are we talking about?

Were Igbos not the first to derail our democracy by military coup, restructure and tamper with our governance system and therefore ultimately responsible for our present wahala?

In short, they were the ones that upset the apple cart for which they are now blaming northerners for - take or leave it.

Ironsi did not replace anything with anything. The way the 4 Regions were when he came is the way they were when he left. Eg. The Eastern Region was made was made up of 20 provinces before Ironsi came in. Basically the Eastern Region was a 'group of 20 provinces' before Ironsi came and that is the way it was when Ironsi left. Each of the 4 Regions were 'groups of provinces'.

The only thing Ironsi did was centralise Government, he did not touch the boundaries of any of the 4 Regions.
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by kingthreat(m): 11:01am On Mar 05, 2017
NoContract:


You're a northerner?

Im an omoluabi
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by pazienza(m): 11:02am On Mar 05, 2017
SIRTee15:


Common be honest for once.......
U willfully ommited the place where useni n his co-murderers were worried about shooting Ironside in the midst of northern emirs in Ibadan.......
Fearing a bullet may hit one of the emirs.....
That won't go well with their vengeance mission, they already had too many of their own dead......
This proves they were looking for an acceptable n convenient collateral damage in any case Ironside won't go down alone.......
Of ourselves, fajuyi was a good option......
And that was exactly what useni inferred........
Now according to you, the coup plotters wanted to exonerate fajuyi's house but not fajuyi himself......
Please, what's so special about the house that the northern boys deemed fit to exonerate......
If fajuyi was on their menu list, they will get him......
It doesn't matter if he was with Ironside at the govt lodge or not.......
They will still look for him and kill him....
So all those things u conjured up there are after thought.......





From Walbe, Danjuma, Nwankwo accounts, we know that Fajuyi was on the death list of the Northern military junta.
Through the mouth of three eye witnesses,a matter is established.

From Ademoyega account, we know he supported the Nzeogwu coup.

Seriously. I'm done discussing this issue with you.

Useni never exonerated Fajuyi involvement in
Nzeogwu coup.

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by ItsMeAboki(m): 11:08am On Mar 05, 2017
gartamanta:


Ironsi did not replace anything with anything. The way the 4 Regions were when he came is the way they were when he left. Eg. The Eastern Region was made was made up of 20 provinces before Ironsi came in. Basically the Eastern Region was a 'group of 20 provinces' before Ironsi came and that is the way it was when Ironsi left. Each of the 4 Regions were 'groups of provinces'.

The only thing Ironsi did was centralise Government, he did not touch the boundaries of any of the 4 Regions.

PLs answer my questions; stop beating around the bush - did he not re-structure the system from which we have inherited till today; yes or no?

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by SIRTee15: 11:23am On Mar 05, 2017
pazienza:
Nwankwo mentioned Walbe and Danjuma in his account below..

And he made it clear that Fajuyi was marked for death too. He can't plead for anyone life when it was he that was marked for death.

Now let's see what Danjuma and Walbe said about Fajuyi.]Lt. Col. William Walbe (rtd) said:
“……..We arrested him as we arrested Ironsi.We suspected him of being party to the January coup.You remember the Battle Group Course which was held at Abeokuta….Fajuyi was the Commander of the Battle Group Course…All those who took part in the January coup were those who had taken part in that course.It gave us the impression that the Battle Course was arranged for the January coup, so he had to suffer it too. I am sorry about that but that is the nature of the life of a military man……..”




General Danjuma confirms this opinion.He says that at another training camp in Kachia commanded by Lt. Col. Fajuyi, Major Nzeogwu rehearsed the assault on Sardauna’s house in the presence of some northern mortar officers who did not appreciate the significance of the exercise until after the coup.In Danjuma’s words:

“The chaps could not stomach Fajuyi such that if there was anybody who should die first, as far as they were concerned, it was Fajuyi, not even Ironsi.”


I'm yet to read any article that wrote how this northern counter-coupist sat and discussed how to kill fajuyi......
It was all about Ironside.....
They sat down and planned how to kill Aguiyi Ironsi
Ironside had been marked for death, they were determined to get him anywhere, anyhow......

Their first attempt was in Kaduna during Ironside first leg nationwide tour......
But the northern emirs prevailed on the boys not to shed ironsi's blood on the northern soil......
And this was exactly what fajuyi was fighting against in Ibadan.....
And it further goes to prove useni's assertion that the boys were not willing to kill Ironsi in the midst of emirs.....

Now after the counter-coup some people started recollecting how fajuyi handed over the key to the armoury for the jan coup plotters, how he commanded the battle that night dishing out orders bla bla bla.........
Show me an excerpt depicting the northern soldiers actually sat down and planned to kill fajuyi and I'll believe he was equally marked down for death.....
This is a thorough deposition on what led to the 1966 counter-coup, show me any fajuyi involvement b4 the counter coup
http://www.nigerialinks.com/Articles/Siollun.html

And here is danjuma account of what happened that night and what he thinks of that ADC from the same tribe with Ironside yet couldn't replicate the heroic display of fajuyi that same night......
The same ADC you want me to take his account seriously, someone that will say anything to cover up his coward-like behaviour......



https://maxsiollun./2008/05/28/the-danjuma-interview/

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by gartamanta: 11:26am On Mar 05, 2017
ItsMeAboki:


PLs answer my questions; stop beating around the bush - did he not re-structure the system from which we have inherited till today; yes or not?

Ironsi did not restructure anything. Ironsi met a Nigeria with a structural arrangement of 4 Regions and he left a structural arrangement of 4 Regions.


The people who restructured Nigeria are those who took Nigeria from 4 Regions to 36 states. Ironsi did not do that
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by SIRTee15: 11:29am On Mar 05, 2017
pazienza:


From Walbe, Danjuma, Nwankwo accounts, we know that Fajuyi was on the death list of the Northern military junta.
Through the mouth of three eye witnesses,a matter is established.

From Ademoyega account, we know he supported the Nzeogwu coup.

Seriously. I'm done discussing this issue with you.

Useni never exonerated Fajuyi involvement in
Nzeogwu coup.

Of course u can run, but the truth will always prevail......
Please, danjuma never said fajuyi was marked down for death.....
He even wrote he regretted the killing of fajuyi.......
He admitted he wasn't the primary target.....

http://punchng.com/ive-forgiven-danjuma-others-killing-father-fajuyis-son/
And please delete that coward called nwankwo from the list of your witness.....
Someone that abandoned his boss and ran away in the thick of things.....
Only to surface in the east and start parroting lies to cover up his shameful acts.....

Walbe directly killed both fajuyi n Ironsi.......
Of course, he knows the consequence of killing an innocent man......
He will say anything to justify his action.

Ademoyeaga never said fajuyi was involved in the 1966 Jan coup.....
I have the book, why we struck....
Stop holding on to straws......

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by ItsMeAboki(m): 1:27pm On Mar 05, 2017
gartamanta:


Ironsi did not restructure anything. Ironsi met a Nigeria with a structural arrangement of 4 Regions and he left a structural arrangement of 4 Regions.


The people who restructured Nigeria are those who took Nigeria from 4 Regions to 36 states. Ironsi did not do that


You have still not answered my questions - for obvious reasons.
Well, it is obvious that you shall remain perpetually in denial and going around endlessly in circle; so I'll have only this to say to you - no need in wasting my time with one who chooses to be stubbornly ignorant.

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by wirinet(m): 1:49pm On Mar 05, 2017
gartamanta:


Ironsi did not replace anything with anything. The way the 4 Regions were when he came is the way they were when he left. Eg. The Eastern Region was made was made up of 20 provinces before Ironsi came in. Basically the Eastern Region was a 'group of 20 provinces' before Ironsi came and that is the way it was when Ironsi left. Each of the 4 Regions were 'groups of provinces'.

The only thing Ironsi did was centralise Government, he did not touch the boundaries of any of the 4 Regions.

You are just arguing blindly and senselessly. You are like a religious fundamentalist who is ready to die defending a false belief.
Ironsi destroyed our regional system with decree 34. He is the actual person that created one Nigeria, before Ironsi we had 4 in one Nigeria. Each region controlled its own resources and Government. Ironsi was an opportunist who saw the January coup as an opportunity to abrogate power to himself. If he did not promulgate decree 34 destroying the regions, Gowon would never have been able to use the same degree to change the federation from 4 provinces to 12 states.

If Ironsi was not so power hungry, he would have simply prosecuted all involved in the Botched January coup, irrespective of tribe, Punished all those found guilty and handed over power back to the civilians, including the regions. All these could have been achieved within 6 months.
If he had done these, he would have become a legend in Nigeria and the whole of Africa.

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by SIRTee15: 2:11pm On Mar 05, 2017
This interview by danjuma says a lot about what happened the night of the counter-coup in Ibadan.

https://maxsiollun./2008/05/28/the-danjuma-interview/

He personally assured fajuyi of his safety and that nothing will happen to him, not once but twice.......
Pray, why will one of the main coup plotters guarantee the safety of someone they plan to kill.....
He even released n allowed fajuyi to go back inside to negotiate Ironside surrender after he had earler been arrested by the coup plotters......
What manner of benevolence to someone the coupist were determined to kill......
When the coupist waited in vain for fajuyi to show up with Ironside, they went upstairs......
They met fajuyi standing beside Ironsi......
After they were both arrested, the coupist demanded Ironsi involvement in the jan coup but not fajuyi........
I'm yet to see any excerpt detailing the question the coupist directed at fajuyi concerning his involvement in the jan coup.....
Oh! I forgot...Fajuyi must have been so guilty n the coupist so convinced that that they never bothered about clarifying his role.......
Danjuma admitted things got out of hand when he lost control of the situation to hot tempered, blood thirsty, deeply superstitious, semi literate junior ranked officers......
The instruction was to bring Ironsi down to Lagos for questioning, those boys didn't like that......
They stopped listening to him and at a point he was even fearful of his own life......
These junior officers had only one thing in mind.......
Ironsi's blood and they were ready to eliminate anybody that wants to prevent that....
Even the loyal Ironsi ADC, sani bello, a fellow northerner, was arrested n bundled alongside his boss when he wasn't cooperating.

It's unfortunate that some unrepentant bigots who suffer from serious inferiority complex will wake up 40 yrs later and start rubbishing the heroic efforts of one of Nigerian finest soldiers Adekunle Fajuyi, all in bid to inflate a non existent n absolutely unnecessary ego.

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by kingzizzy: 4:39pm On Mar 05, 2017
wirinet:


You are just arguing blindly and senselessly. You are like a religious fundamentalist who is ready to die defending a false belief.
Ironsi destroyed our regional system with decree 34. He is the actual person that created one Nigeria, before Ironsi we had 4 in one Nigeria. Each region controlled its own resources and Government. Ironsi was an opportunist who saw the January coup as an opportunity to abrogate power to himself. If he did not promulgate decree 34 destroying the regions, Gowon would never have been able to use the same degree to change the federation from 4 provinces to 12 states.

If Ironsi was not so power hungry, he would have simply prosecuted all involved in the Botched January coup, irrespective of tribe, Punished all those found guilty and handed over power back to the civilians, including the regions. All these could have been achieved within 6 months.
If he had done these, he would have become a legend in Nigeria and the whole of Africa.


You guys need to start reading Nigerian history. Under Ironsi, all four Regions were practicing resource control and fiscal practice, even after the enacting of decree 34.

Also, Gowon did not use decree 34 to create 12 states. Decree 34 was abolished in January 1967 at Aburi, Gowon announced state creation in May of that year.


Ironsi cannot be accused of destroying Regionalism as all 4 Regions maintained their status under Ironsi, all that changed was their relationship with the centre.

The person who destroyed Regionalism in Nigeria was Gowon when he created 12 states from the 4 Regions.
Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by pazienza(m): 5:12pm On Mar 05, 2017
SIRTee15:


Of course u can run, but the truth will always prevail......
Please, danjuma never said fajuyi was marked down for death.....
He even wrote he regretted the killing of fajuyi.......
He admitted he wasn't the primary target.....

http://punchng.com/ive-forgiven-danjuma-others-killing-father-fajuyis-son/
And please delete that coward called nwankwo from the list of your witness.....
Someone that abandoned his boss and ran away in the thick of things.....
Only to surface in the east and start parroting lies to cover up his shameful acts.....

Walbe directly killed both fajuyi n Ironsi.......
Of course, he knows the consequence of killing an innocent man......
He will say anything to justify his action.

Ademoyeaga never said fajuyi was involved in the 1966 Jan coup.....
I have the book, why we struck....
Stop holding on to straws......



You are a shameless fellow.
No where in the article you quoted did Danjuma say that Fajuyi was innocent. Both him( Fajuyi) and Ironsi were placed under arrest by Danjuma.

If you have a quote of Danjuma where he exonerated Fajuyi as being innocent, quote it and stop wasting my time.

Walbe already explained why Fajuyi had to die. Danjuma corroborated it. No arthur or any one involved in the events of Ironsi and Fajuyi death ever said that Fajuyi was innocent, let alone pleaded for Ironsi not to killed, none!

Danjuma might not believe on Nwankwo other narratives about the counter coup, but he never challenged his account of Fajuyi not being innocent.

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by pazienza(m): 5:14pm On Mar 05, 2017
SIRTee15:
This interview by danjuma says a lot about what happened the night of the counter-coup in Ibadan.

https://maxsiollun./2008/05/28/the-danjuma-interview/

He personally assured fajuyi of his safety and that nothing will happen to him, not once but twice.......
Pray, why will one of the main coup plotters guarantee the safety of someone they plan to kill.....
He even released n allowed fajuyi to go back inside to negotiate Ironside surrender after he had earler been arrested by the coup plotters......
What manner of benevolence to someone the coupist were determined to kill......
When the coupist waited in vain for fajuyi to show up with Ironside, they went upstairs......
They met fajuyi standing beside Ironsi......
After they were both arrested, the coupist demanded Ironsi involvement in the jan coup but not fajuyi........
I'm yet to see any excerpt detailing the question the coupist directed at fajuyi concerning his involvement in the jan coup.....
Oh! I forgot...Fajuyi must have been so guilty n the coupist so convinced that that they never bothered about clarifying his role.......
Danjuma admitted things got out of hand when he lost control of the situation to hot tempered, blood thirsty, deeply superstitious, semi literate junior ranked officers......
The instruction was to bring Ironsi down to Lagos for questioning, those boys didn't like that......
They stopped listening to him and at a point he was even fearful of his own life......
These junior officers had only one thing in mind.......
Ironsi's blood and they were ready to eliminate anybody that wants to prevent that....
Even the loyal Ironsi ADC, sani bello, a fellow northerner, was arrested n bundled alongside his boss when he wasn't cooperating.

It's unfortunate that some unrepentant bigots who suffer from serious inferiority complex will wake up 40 yrs later and start rubbishing the heroic efforts of one of Nigerian finest soldiers Adekunle Fajuyi, all in bid to inflate a non existent n absolutely unnecessary ego.




This is a long irrelevant drivel. This is what matters most:

"General Danjuma confirms this opinion.He says
that at another training camp in Kachia
commanded by Lt. Col. Fajuyi, Major Nzeogwu
rehearsed the assault on Sardauna’s house in the
presence of some northern mortar officers who did
not appreciate the significance of the exercise until
after the coup.In Danjuma’s words:
“The chaps could not stomach Fajuyi such that if
there was anybody who should die first, as far as
they were concerned, it was Fajuyi, not even
Ironsi.”

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by pazienza(m): 5:30pm On Mar 05, 2017
SIRTee15:
This interview by danjuma says a lot about what happened the night of the counter-coup in Ibadan.

https://maxsiollun./2008/05/28/the-danjuma-interview/

He personally assured fajuyi of his safety and that nothing will happen to him, not once but twice.......
Pray, why will one of the main coup plotters guarantee the safety of someone they plan to kill.....
He even released n allowed fajuyi to go back inside to negotiate Ironside surrender after he had earler been arrested by the coup plotters......
What manner of benevolence to someone the coupist were determined to kill......
When the coupist waited in vain for fajuyi to show up with Ironside, they went upstairs......
They met fajuyi standing beside Ironsi......
After they were both arrested, the coupist demanded Ironsi involvement in the jan coup but not fajuyi........
I'm yet to see any excerpt detailing the question the coupist directed at fajuyi concerning his involvement in the jan coup.....
Oh! I forgot...Fajuyi must have been so guilty n the coupist so convinced that that they never bothered about clarifying his role.......
Danjuma admitted things got out of hand when he lost control of the situation to hot tempered, blood thirsty, deeply superstitious, semi literate junior ranked officers......
The instruction was to bring Ironsi down to Lagos for questioning, those boys didn't like that......
They stopped listening to him and at a point he was even fearful of his own life......
These junior officers had only one thing in mind.......
Ironsi's blood and they were ready to eliminate anybody that wants to prevent that....
Even the loyal Ironsi ADC, sani bello, a fellow northerner, was arrested n bundled alongside his boss when he wasn't cooperating.

It's unfortunate that some unrepentant bigots who suffer from serious inferiority complex will wake up 40 yrs later and start rubbishing the heroic efforts of one of Nigerian finest soldiers Adekunle Fajuyi, all in bid to inflate a non existent n absolutely unnecessary ego.




This is a long irrelevant drivel. This is what matters most:

"General Danjuma confirms this opinion.He says
that at another training camp in Kachia
commanded by Lt. Col. Fajuyi, Major Nzeogwu
rehearsed the assault on Sardauna’s house in the
presence of some northern mortar officers who did
not appreciate the significance of the exercise until
after the coup.In Danjuma’s words:
“The chaps could not stomach Fajuyi such that if
there was anybody who should die first, as far as
they were concerned, it was Fajuyi, not even
Ironsi.”

Walbe one of the eye witnesses already gave his account:

b]Lt. Col. William Walbe (rtd) said:
“……..We arrested him as we arrested Ironsi.We suspected him of being party to the January coup.You remember the Battle Group Course which was held at Abeokuta….Fajuyi was the Commander of the Battle Group Course…All those who took part in the January coup were those who had taken part in that course.It gave us the impression that the Battle Course was arranged for the January coup, so he had to suffer it too. I am sorry about that but that is the nature of the life of a military man……..”


Until Yolobas can provide us with definite quotes by those major actors or from credible neutral sources saying otherwise. Nwankwo account so far is in tandem with those of Walbe and Danjuma.

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by wirinet(m): 5:40pm On Mar 05, 2017
kingzizzy:



You guys need to start reading Nigerian history. Under Ironsi, all four Regions were practicing resource control and fiscal practice, even after the enacting of decree 34.

Also, Gowon did not use decree 34 to create 12 states. Decree 34 was abolished in January 1967 at Aburi, Gowon announced state creation in May of that year.


Ironsi cannot be accused of destroying Regionalism as all 4 Regions maintained their status under Ironsi, all that changed was their relationship with the centre.

The person who destroyed Regionalism in Nigeria was Gowon when he created 12 states from the 4 Regions.

Arguing with you guys is like arguing with a pre recorded radio program, you repeat the same illogical argument again and again without listening to reason.

I presented a link to decree 34 of 1966, please take time to read and comprehend it. The decree removed all powers from the regions - political, legislative, executive, economic, etc and vested everything in the National Military Government headed by Genera Ironsi.
for the purpose of administration each group of provinces shall subject to the authority of the Head of the National Military Government, be under the general direction and control of a Military Governor appointed by the Head of the National Military Government;
-https://dawodu.com/decree34.htm
How was resource control preserved when military governors of the new provinces ate under the control and direction of the national military government. How can there the resource control when the regional civil services have been collapsed into a single national civil service

As from the appointed day all offices in the service of the Republic in a civil capacity shall be offices in a single service to be known as the National Public Service; and accordingly all persons who immediately before that day are members of the public service of the Federation or of the public service of a Region shall on that day become members of the National Public Service:
Who abolished decree 34 and when? Please provide links or references. The Aburi accord was an agreement between Gowon and Ojukwu that was never implemented.

Maybe you guys do not understand what regionalism means. It is a form of government in which each region of a federation or Confederation controls its own government by having its executive and legislative arms. The federation is held together by common currency, international relations, tax laws and single military.

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by pazienza(m): 5:46pm On Mar 05, 2017
. Fajuyi did not give his life for Ironsi. It seems he was a target of the northern mutineers all along and would have been killed with Ironsi regardless. It was the Western Region publication "Fajuyi The Great" that started the myth that Fajuyi "chose to die with Ironsi". The myth was later embellished in subsequent publications. One of the most ridiculous of which was Fajuyi: The Martyred soldier, by Sanmi Ajiki. Ajiki claimed that Fajuyi told Ironsi: "I make bold to declare to you that, I am with you soul, spirit and body. And mark my words, whatever happens to you today, happens to me. I am your true friend, dear J.U.T like the dove to the pigeon, and by the grace of our good God, so will I humbly yet proudly remain till the very end." According to Ajiki, Ironsi replied "Yes! Francis, I retain my absolute confidence in you. I have never for once doubted your integrity." That might sound nice and heroic for their family members, but the accounts given by the soldiers that were present suggest that no such fluffy dialogue took place.

~ Max Silloun

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by pazienza(m): 5:48pm On Mar 05, 2017
according to Major
Ademoyega, Fajuyi had much
more than "advance notice".
Major Ademoyega's biography
actually states that Fajuyi gave
the Majors operational input on
the execution aspects of their
coup. Ademoyega's account
makes Fajuyi much more than
a sympathiser...it makes him
an accomplice.

~ Max Silloun

nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum/main-
square/33870-life-times-colonel-adekunle-
fajuyi.html

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Re: Johnson Aguiyi-ironsi's 93rd Posthumous Birthday Is Today by pazienza(m): 5:56pm On Mar 05, 2017
:
"On August 31, 1966, Gowon abolished Decree 34
and restored the federal system. On May 27,
1967, Gowon created the 12 states, killed the four
regions and handed supreme authority to the
central Government. It has been so since"
thenationonlineng.net/journey-that-leads-to-
nowhere/ thenationonlineng.net/journey-that-
leads-to-nowhere/


There you have it. Gowon not dead Ironsi dissolved Nigerian regions and replaced them with dysfunctional entities he called states.

Yolobas and their Arewa partners can now leave dead Ironsi and Ndiigbo alone.

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