HardMirror:

I have read your post over and over again I could not see where you told me what communication with god has done for mankind.

Can u just answer those questions for me?
Do u really think dat man woke up one day and grew d morality to establish d constitution? Now without d constitution u might not be alive to type ur Rubbish. At least dats one thing God's communication has done. It saved ur life to live a little longer and type any Rubbish u want.

damagepbuh:

I am here already just give me time let me digest d discussion before i start blasting u. Meanwhile even though i have a different moniker for politics it is non of thosenu mentioned

And where did I mention you
See me see this confused fellow. Are you sure you are quoting the right person or just seeking my attention?

damagepbuh:

Can u just answer those questions for me?
Do u really think dat man woke up one day and grew d morality to establish d constitution? Now without d constitution u might not be alive to type ur Rubbish. At least dats one thing God's communication has done. It saved ur life to live a little longer and type any Rubbish u want.

Fear of prison is the reason why u have not assassinated me right? Lol

HardMirror:

Fear of prison is the reason why u have not assassinated me right? Lol

Just get d message am passing across and dnt be frivolous. U think i really care if u exists or not. There are people closer to u who wud have done dat.

damagepbuh:

Just get d message am passing across and dnt be frivolous. U think i really care if u exists or not. There are people closer to u who wud have done dat.

Speak for yourself. You may be so worthless that people around you would rather have you dead.

Ranchhoddas:
You are unsettled by his comments, hurt even. Why is that?

Ranchhoddas, I think truly I was hurt but not because of his post because I've seen worse but because of his person. I feel he is deviating totally from the gentleman he once was and it hurts.

From the way I see your person Ranchhoddas, I think you still have your conscience intact. If you try creating a post like that, I'm sure you won't feel OK.

I wasn't really concerned about he not believing in God but what that belief has made him become.

You can respect the belief of others while still questioning them or standing against them. I only feel his person is becoming worse with the way he communicates.

I beg make una let me explode small.

Let him continue. I've accepted it as his new person.

Besides its been long I commented on his post

bennyann:


Ranchhoddas, I think truly I was hurt but not because of his post because I've seen worse but because of his person. I feel he is deviating totally from the gentleman he once was and it hurts.

From the way I see your person Ranchhoddas, I think you still have your conscience intact. If you try creating a post like that, I'm sure you won't feel OK.

I wasn't really concerned about he not believing in God but what that belief has made him become.

You can respect the belief of others while still questioning them or standing against them. I only feel his person is becoming worse with the way he communicates.

I beg make una let me explode small.

Let him continue. I've accepted it as his new person.

Besides its been long I commented on his post

You seem to know me offline.

Comparing God to a dog seems far fetched.. Why can't you just respect their beliefs??

bi0nics:
Comparing God to a dog seems far fetched.. Why can't you just respect their beliefs??

You mean the way they respect other religions?
What do christians say about traditional worshipers?

And to be honest, the question and comparism is relevant. If their god is God and they indeed can communicate with the so called god, is it too much to cross examine the benefits of man's relationship with this god even if compared with man's relationship with ants, dogs, goats or what ever

onyenze123:


You are an atheist, that's acceptable. pls show some level of maturity. Respect other people's sensibility. How can you be comparing a dog to God? It's not fair

I don't support Atheist shutting up any longer, because that way I got enlightened. I encourage it fully now, back to the topic the god and dog analogy is spot on, god has contributed to the massive hatred and dissociation of humanity and still up to these day he sees it as a very nice thing to do not to show himself openly because he needs more killings, wars, bloodshed in the name of religion even he would still subject every religionist to his wrathful judgement for giving reverence to the wrong god.

bennyann:


Ranchhod das, I think truly I was hurt but not because of his post because I've seen worse but because of his person. I feel he is deviating totally from the gentleman he once was and it hurts.

From the way I see your person Ranchhodd as, I think you still have your conscience intact. If you try creating a post like that, I'm sure you won't feel OK.

I wasn't really concerned about he not believing in God but what that belief has made him become.

You can respect the belief of others while still questioning them or standing against them. I only feel his person is becoming worse with the way he communicates.

I beg make una let me explode small.

Let him continue. I've accepted it as his new person.

Besides its been long I commented on his post

Eeeyah. Sorry! Feel free to explode all you want

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Ermm about myself; I have not thrown the God idea away, I just don't have any reason to cling to it.

Ranchhoddas:
Eeeyah. Sorry! Feel free to explode all you want

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Ermm about myself; I have not thrown the God idea away, I just don't have any reason to cling to it.

look who said I'd soon become an atheist... u seem to be way ahead of me on that.. we shall see

Wilgrea7:


look who said I'd soon become an atheist... u seem to be way ahead of me on that.. we shall see

Hehehe...

HardMirror:

So sorry bro. I know I am being blunt, but any honest person knows what I posted up there is nothing but the truth.

You christians should just shut the fvck up. You insult traditional worshipers, but not feeling hurt that I am comparing your god to dogs. Don't you ridicule, sango, oya, ogun, zeus, shiva and the rest?

Now back to the OP, what is the usefulness of your communications with god. So you have ability to talk to god and you can hear god, yet you folks never use this ability to solve problems humanity is facing?

Lol.
You are shameless.

This trite statement of yours is stale. While normal people may consider gods to be nothing. They don't go around rubbing it in the face of worshippers. Personal opinion is different from direct irreverence and lack of manners. You should learn some courtesy and civilization in your discussion.

NLPsychologist:
Hm

Sir please are you a psychologist? I am in dire need of one.

HardMirror:

Hehehehe
So you commune with God?
Lol
Pls help us ask God what the cure for cancer, AIDS, Lassa, Ebola and others are.

You all claiming to be able to communicate with God, what practical, realistic and beneficial information have you been able to obtain from God so far?

Oh, oh oh, I know, God has been able to reveal one old aunt in the village as the one hindering your progress in life. Lol.

Communicate with God and yet you don't have any special knowledge. God ko dog ni.
Comparing your god to a dog is even an insult to dogs.
Communicating with dogs has done more for mankind that your supposed communication with God.
Communication with dogs has helped many blind people with specially trained dogs called "seeing dogs"
Has helped in search and rescue (SAR dogs)
Narcotic detection (sniffer dogs)
Bomb detection (sniffer dogs)
Post traumatic disorder treatment
Cancer detection
Security
Etc.
While communication with god has
Lead to wars
Created psychos such as Shekau, osama bin laden
Created 419s such as TB joshua, Oyedepo
Lead many to reject medical report and believe the report of God till they died of terminal illnesses in "faith"

Abeg park well.

This is as dumb as saying cellphones are more useful than humans, or water is more important than fire. It's a foolish argument to make as all have their uses. Your civilization and constitution are firmly rooted in communication with God.

Image123:


This is as dumb as saying cellphones are more useful than humans, or water is more important than fire. It's a foolish argument to make as all have their uses. Your civilization and constitution are firmly rooted in communication with God.

Constitutions are not based on communications with God, but leaders being wise use the fear of "god" to make people believe a supreme being is behind the laid out rules.
I am sure the constitutional gay rights of gays in many countries are also from god. Or the constitutional rights to owe slaves in the past were also from god.
Use your head, you are not thinking at all.

So people actually have access to God; they can talk to God and God reply them? Lol I wonder what over 1billion christians have been discussing with God and yet not one of you have been told relevant things such as the cure for cancer or HIV. Or where the chibok girls are.
Imagine the endless knowledge God could provide. Yet you guys have no answer to the problems humanity is facing. Even tb joshua could not tell his building would collapse.

Use ur head

Image123:


This is as dumb as saying cellphones are more useful than humans, or water is more important than fire. It's a foolish argument to make as all have their uses. Your civilization and constitution are firmly rooted in communication with God.

I am sure you would also claim to be one of those who can talk to God and hear God. Lol

Give me a list of practical problems God has helped you solve when he talks to you. That is besides God revealing enemies of your destiny to you (cos that is the only revelations you people always have from God)

Image123:


This trite statement of yours is stale. While normal people may consider gods to be nothing. They don't go around rubbing it in the face of worshippers. Personal opinion is different from direct irreverence and lack of manners. You should learn some courtesy and civilization in your discussion.

Comparing your God to dogs is an insult to dogs honestly. You just can't compare the 2. Dogs are practical, they are useful. Even if it means killing and eating the dog, it is more useful than most of this Gods would ever be.
I stopped lying to myself long time ago. God does not talk to man, it is our imagination. Else we would have access to so many mysteries. Everyone is confused and we have to rely on science to show us the way. Man's hope of ever curing cancer is not with God but in the hands of medical researchers.

HardMirror:

Comparing your God to dogs is an insult to dogs honestly. You just can't compare the 2. Dogs are practical, they are useful. Even if it means killing and eating the dog, it is more useful than most of this Gods would ever be.
I stopped lying to myself long time ago. God does not talk to man, it is our imagination. Else we would have access to so many mysteries. Everyone is confused and we have to rely on science to show us the way. Man's hope of ever curing cancer is not with God but in the hands of medical researchers.

i referred to your excuse that you should talk rudely because theists talk rudely of others. Learn to stick to issues, i didn't ask for all these your headache that you have listed. Learn to be civil and courteous in discussion with others instead of making rude people your role model.

HardMirror:

Constitutions are not based on communications with God, but leaders being wise use the fear of "god" to make people believe a supreme being is behind the laid out rules.
I am sure the constitutional gay rights of gays in many countries are also from god. Or the constitutional rights to owe slaves in the past were also from god.
Use your head, you are not thinking at all.

So people actually have access to God; they can talk to God and God reply them? Lol I wonder what over 1billion christians have been discussing with God and yet not one of you have been told relevant things such as the cure for cancer or HIV. Or where the chibok girls are.
Imagine the endless knowledge God could provide. Yet you guys have no answer to the problems humanity is facing. Even tb joshua could not tell his building would collapse.

Use ur head

i mentioned "rooted" which implies foundational. I didn't state or imply that God dictates the constitution of any country. What i said and repeat is that the constitution of most nations were founded on some people's communion and communication with God. This is indisputable history looking at the lifes of several founding fathers and presidents of the United States. If you claim it's alleged, that's different, and i expect that line from any skeptic. But showing total ignorance is amusing though expected of your moniker.

HardMirror:

I am sure you would also claim to be one of those who can talk to God and hear God. Lol

Give me a list of practical problems God has helped you solve when he talks to you. That is besides God revealing enemies of your destiny to you (cos that is the only revelations you people always have from God)

Even the most basic discoveries have been attributed to God's inspiration by the 'discoverers'. The technology of fire, airplanes, engines, medical cures have all had the core inventors giving God the glory. Your rants remain eternally irrelevant compared to what has been seen and read. Run along to confuse young minds that fail to think and lack exposure.

Image123:


i mentioned "rooted" which implies foundational. I didn't state or imply that God dictates the constitution of any country. What i said and repeat is that the constitution of most nations were founded on some people's communion and communication with God. This is indisputable history looking at the lifes of several founding fathers and presidents of the United States. If you claim it's alleged, that's different, and i expect that line from any skeptic. But showing total ignorance is amusing though expected of your moniker.

I hear this a lot

even many deluded Christians in the USA usually go "But the Founding Fathers were Christians who based our Constitution on Judeo-Christian values!"

I guess that's why these assembled geniuses forgot to mention Abraham or Jesus in the entire document, or why good old Ben Franklin told Jefferson to write "self-evident" instead of "sacred."

Sinestroo:

Sir please are you a psychologist? I am in dire need of one.

Not really bro...sorry

hopefulLandlord:


I hear this a lot

even many deluded Christians in the USA usually go "But the Founding Fathers were Christians who based our Constitution on Judeo-Christian values!"

I guess that's why these assembled geniuses forgot to mention Abraham or Jesus in the entire document, or why good old Ben Franklin told Jefferson to write "self-evident" instead of "sacred."

Good to note that you hear it a lot,consider that there may be some sense in it. People mention Jesus, God and Abraham without being Christian or godly. Start thinking.

HardMirror:

There is god. So I am trying to itemize his/her/it's benefits to mankind so far

Who or What Introduces God? Genesis 1:1

#1 Benefits: He created Heaven and Earth

#2 Benefits: And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

#3 Benefits: And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

#4 Benefits: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

#5 Benefits: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

#6 Benefits: Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

#7 Benefits: And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.


Isn't List amazing from Top to down

Image123:



Even the most basic discoveries have been attributed to God's inspiration by the 'discoverers'. The technology of fire, airplanes, engines, medical cures have all had the core inventors giving God the glory. Your rants remain eternally irrelevant compared to what has been seen and read. Run along to confuse young minds that fail to think and lack exposure.

Hehehe
Oh my goodness. Ok let's look into this.

Greeks and romans had many gods and they attributed different successes to different Gods. They had gods they acknowledged for war victories, for wisdom, for discoveries, for cures in medicine etc. Does that make their attributions to these gods real? You as a christian obviously laugh at the thought of greek or roman gods being real or doing anything real.

Back to christians. Christians give god glory for everything. Even their own efforts.


You lose your car keeps, you pray "God pls let me find this keys" while searching frantically for it. You find it you say "thank you Jesus".


An olympic athlete trains for 4years before a tournament, he or she wins and gives a speech thanking God.

A scientist works hard, reads and studies. Tries and fails and tries again. Then he makes a breakthrough only to say, "it is God".

An actor/actress acts an "ungodly" movie and wins an academy award. Then goes on stage saying "it is God"

The fact that people give God credit for their achievements, does not make "God" involved, else which God? The Gods of the greeks, Romans, Yorubas, Ibos? Or which God?

For different races and people have different Gods and history is filled with the marvelous
things these gods have done.

Lol. So it turns out you have made zero sense.


Compared to a dog, you are definite of what you can get out of your dog. No confusion. I won't give credit to my dog for something it did not do. If my dog is useless, it is useless, no pretense.
But fear of the unknown has made men give god glory for fear of this god getting angry or jealous.

HardMirror:

Hehehe
Oh my goodness. Ok let's look into this.

Greeks and romans had many gods and they attributed different successes to different Gods. They had gods they acknowledged for war victories, for wisdom, for discoveries, for cures in medicine etc. Does that make their attributions to these gods real? You as a christian obviously laugh at the thought of greek or roman gods being real or doing anything real.

Back to christians. Christians give god glory for everything. Even their own efforts.


You lose your car keeps, you pray "God pls let me find this keys" while searching frantically for it. You find it you say "thank you Jesus".


An olympic athlete trains for 4years before a tournament, he or she wins and gives a speech thanking God.

A scientist works hard, reads and studies. Tries and fails and tries again. Then he makes a breakthrough only to say, "it is God".

An actor/actress acts an "ungodly" movie and wins an academy award. Then goes on stage saying "it is God"

The fact that people give God credit for their achievements, does not make "God" involved, else which God? The Gods of the greeks, Romans, Yorubas, Ibos? Or which God?

For different races and people have different Gods and history is filled with the marvelous
things these gods have done.

Lol. So it turns out you have made zero sense.


Compared to a dog, you are definite of what you can get out of your dog. No confusion. I won't give credit to my dog for something it did not do. If my dog is useless, it is useless, no pretense.
But fear of the unknown has made men give god glory for fear of this god getting angry or jealous.

King of all atheists
you need deliverance

GoodMuyis:


Who or What Introduces God? Genesis 1:1

#1 Benefits: He created Heaven and Earth

This is not a benefit of man's interaction with God. Besides, which God created heaven and earth and how do you know.

#2 Benefits: And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.

this is what a book claims. The chinese, Yorubas, Ibos, american indians all have different creation stories. This is just one of the many versions with no evidence.

#3 Benefits: And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.

replied above already

#4 Benefits: So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

Is this a benefit of your daily interaction with God?

#5 Benefits: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Lol
Is this a benefit of your daily communication with god?

#6 Benefits: Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

You can choose to call yourself son of anything just to help your low self esteem.
As nigerians would say, "how does that put money in my account?"
This has no benefit what so ever than self delusion.

#7 Benefits: And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.


Isn't List amazing from Top to down

No it is amazing that you are not intelligent at all to understand the comparism.


Now listen.

Originally Man has no communication or relationship with dogs. But when we domesticated them and learned to understand them and teach them to understand us, we have been able to benefit immensely from the relationship.

Let us assume God exists, so we men developed relationship with this God, to the extent that billions of people claim that this god can speak to humans and humans speak to this god.
Now the question is, imagine what revelations you can get if actually humans can speak to God. So what are the things this communication with God has done for humanity so far?

onyenze123:

King of all atheists you need deliverance

Deliverance from being curious? Deliverance from asking questions? Should you as a thinking human, not wonder what is real and not?
Imagine u seeing someone claiming to worship Zeus today. Does it make sense? Yet there was a time people worshiped this mythical god.
So deliverance from what exactly?

HardMirror:

Hehehe
Oh my goodness. Ok let's look into this.

Greeks and romans had many gods and they attributed different successes to different Gods. They had gods they acknowledged for war victories, for wisdom, for discoveries, for cures in medicine etc. Does that make their attributions to these gods real? You as a christian obviously laugh at the thought of greek or roman gods being real or doing anything real.

Back to christians. Christians give god glory for everything. Even their own efforts.


You lose your car keeps, you pray "God pls let me find this keys" while searching frantically for it. You find it you say "thank you Jesus".


An olympic athlete trains for 4years before a tournament, he or she wins and gives a speech thanking God.

A scientist works hard, reads and studies. Tries and fails and tries again. Then he makes a breakthrough only to say, "it is God".

An actor/actress acts an "ungodly" movie and wins an academy award. Then goes on stage saying "it is God"

The fact that people give God credit for their achievements, does not make "God" involved, else which God? The Gods of the greeks, Romans, Yorubas, Ibos? Or which God?

For different races and people have different Gods and history is filled with the marvelous
things these gods have done.

Lol. So it turns out you have made zero sense.


Compared to a dog, you are definite of what you can get out of your dog. No confusion. I won't give credit to my dog for something it did not do. If my dog is useless, it is useless, no pretense.
But fear of the unknown has made men give god glory for fear of this god getting angry or jealous.

You shot yourself in the foot as usual as your thread initially seeks for people to tell you what their communion with God has yielded. Now you have gone ahead to list the many things communion with God achieves, then pout like a kid "I don't believe". Of course, are you not an UNBELIEVER?
BTW, i don't laugh at greek or roman or any gods being real, some are.