raumdeuter:

Last season 17 goals(11 in the league) 10 assist

Nihilist:
So how was he better than Kane 28 goals, 3 assists?

Or Lukaku 25 goals 7 assists?

Even Alli that started the season in DM position and barely featured in domestic cup games had 10 goals and 11 assists.

So how is Mourinho the one preventing Martial from being better than the above?

Oya thesis

raumdeuter:


1. Martial didnt start the season in England
2. Martial had to adapt to the league
3. Martial was played as a wing forward several times while Lukaku, Kane are center forwards who also take the bulk of Penalties for their team

Nihilist:
Lukaku does not take Penalties at Everton bros.

The rest of your yarns is irrelevant by the by. Afterall Alli had not played in EPL before last season and still manage to score a PFA team of the year appearance in his debut season

You said Martial was better than those guys before Mourinho - yet output is lower, recognition and awards are lower.

With Mourinho same thing.

So how is Mourinho the problem with Martial now? Is Mourinho doing Martial from village?

raumdeuter:


Do you expect the goals output of a wing forward to be equal to that of a top striker? Olivier Giroud scored more goals than Alexia Sanchez last season. So we can say Giroud is better

How Martial went from a 17 goals in his debut season to 7 goals 7 assists cant be distanced from Mourinho

And Ibrahimovic

raumdeuter:


Do you expect the goals output of a wing forward to be equal to that of a top striker? Olivier Giroud scored more goals than Alexia Sanchez last season. So we can say Giroud is better

How Martial went from a 17 goals in his debut season to 7 goals 7 assists cant be distanced from Mourinho

Nihilist:
You are the one that made the gaffe of calling Martial the best u-25 in the league. It's not my fault if you did not use your tongue to count your teeth before making your proclamation. At the point of your announcement, you did not differentiate that Martial is a wing forward and Lukaku a striker - in fact you were happily comparing them at the time.

Now before last season, Martial had never scored up to 10 goals in any season of his career, so what is your evidence that Martial's paltry output from last season was simply not a flash in the pan?

How is Mourinho responsible if a Mediocre winger that has scored 10 league goals onlyn once in his life, is resorting to type and scoring his usual 5 or 6 goals a season?

raumdeuter:


If anyone calls Alexis Sanchez the best Arsenal player would it be a gaffe despite him having inferior numbers to Giroud,

To compare Martial and Lukaku will go beyond their numbers since one is a pure striker a skillless jambody one like Lokondo Mpenza, while the other is a skillful wing forward who pops in goals and assists

WHen Lukaku was a 19-20 yr old under Mourinho how did he fare? Is Lukakus performance under Mourinho a perfect reflection of his potential?

How long has this Martial football life been? 3 months ago he turned 21, meaning he came to Manure as a 19yrs. So how many yrs of comparison are we supposed to have for such a player

Nihilist:
You have been perambulating from pillar to post without seemingly understanding that I had already caught you that time.

You are now asking how long Martial's career is. So what was your basis for calling Martial the best u-25 in the league? His 7 goals in less than half a season in England or his previously mediocre seasons in France?

raumdeuter:


His talent that anyone can see just like anyone will see Alexis is the best Arsenal player despite scoring or assisting less than Giroud. Which is why Lukaku with 1,000 goals will still be stuck in a grade D club like Everton

Nihilist:


Stop comparing Alexis to Giroud abeg

There's no career stat where Alexis does not beat Giroud.

You were claiming Mourinho reduced Martial's output until I showed you that Martial's 11 goals were the exception not the norm. You now ran away from output to Talent anyone can see ...what is talent anyone can see again?

ChristineC:

That will cost some fortune. About £250m for the summer shopping perhaps

afrodoc2:


If they are ready to spend 100m on a midfielder then they better be ready to shell out similar amounts on strikers and wing forwards who actually score goals.
Now is the time to spend money on players that can win us the league rather than spending money just to spit in the face of Madrid.

Nihilist:


Stop comparing Alexis to Giroud abeg

There's no career stat where Alexis does not beat Giroud.

You were claiming Mourinho reduced Martial's output until I showed you that Martial's 11 goals were the exception not the norm. You now ran away from output to Talent anyone can see ...what is talent anyone can see again?

Danhumprey:
Lol. the way you keep using this line at bolded...... it's like you love throwing snide shade at someone.....



Doc, calm down.

afrodoc2:


Lol do u know I can't even remember who said it so it is not a snide remark at a particular person. But in my opinion it was the most ridiculous and misguided statement made during the Pogba negotiation period, that is why it stuck.

So do you know who said it?

Danhumprey:
Lol. nice try. you wan claim say you don forget who made that statement? I still remember vividly who made that statement and how he kept bandying it around to justify Pogba's purchase. the guy hasn't been active in the last few weeks.

but no worries. make we no dig up old diets.

afrodoc2:




In other news Sunderland and Moyes are going down like Bisola of BBN . I wonder how Ruudie and Nyabinghi are coping with THEIR TEAM rooted to the bottom like a Baobab tree

elrony:

Chelseafan1:
Afternoon my people, who can remind me of today's date please?

MRTA7:
Zlatan charged. 3 match ban incoming.

Time for Rashford,Rooney and Martial to step it up.

I have been having good vibes this week, It seems my gods have blessed me with a good month.

MRTA7:
Zlatan charged. 3 match ban incoming.

Time for Rashford,Rooney and Martial to step it up.