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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by Ndifereke: 11:05am On Mar 10, 2017
CuteJude:
if memory serves me well , the only person among those names that won bba is dillish and she had looks working for her , argue along the lines of logic and common sense maybe your thread will be more meaningful next time

So even with all your DStv Explorer you don't even know anything about BBA? So much for looking down on channel 29 users. What a lost soul. grin grin

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by sod09(m): 11:06am On Mar 10, 2017
PrincessKab:
Nope. Check out TBoss, she participated in the wedding. She stood where she could be seen. Debie was inside, and was with her guitar all through before she came out to play. My point is, she just dropped the basket, she mentioned it too this morning. I wanted to say it yesterday, that her dressing was incomplete without the basket instead of carrying the guitar from the beginning when it wasn't needed till the end, but I didn't want it to look like I was picking on her, not knowing this will happen.
When I write good things about this girl, you don't acknowledge, it's only when I write anything negative that some people see to it.
I wrote about her good music yesterday. I wrote the goodies she said in the diary session.
But she was in the limelight yesterday and did many things off which other people too pointed out. I did point them out too, but it's assumed that I pick on her.
Other people too pointed out that,
-She put curry inside ponmo
-Plenty curry inside maggi(I didn't update)
-Shoes on fulani attire
-Forcing herself to sleep with Bassey on the couch
*TBoss saying she was disgusting
So pls, bear it in mind that I wasn't picking on her. I ignore some things without updating them. The housemates were saying yesterday that she doesn't know how to cook, I didn't update that. A lot...
I do this for and about every one of them. I try as much as possible not to be bias. When people write about Efe, especially what is not, cursing him, twisting the stories or even try to counter my report, I don't go for them, despite knowing it's not true. But when I write anything odd about their favorite HM, they'll come complaining that I'm being bias, am I supposed to write only the good things. I don't get!
So, pls, kinda understand, I'm human and only trying my best here. I can't and don't update what is not. And whatever my opinion is, I state it as my opinion, I don't write it that it was said or quote it. Let's tryna accept our favs updates too, we tolerate the most, much more, the insults, curses...Just too much, but others don't want to accept what their Favs do at all, talkless of tolerating what we tolerate. Those are the updates, so pls, let's tryna accept them, or prove me wrong whenever I'm wrong or add more. However, I state my opinions separately, I don't present them as what happened. All observations are noted and I'll continue to do my best.
Thank you!



madam u are very bias, ur hatred for Debbie rise is so obvious. not cool

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by Foxrain: 11:07am On Mar 10, 2017
Seems like always people have misread my message and added another meaning to it.
I do not have any problems with Efe's original supporters .The beauty of the game is that people get to support whomever they like,my problem is with the band wagoners, people jumping ship not because there is anything endearing or outstanding about Efe but because they want to belong where everyone else belongs. I have been following this page since its inception, I know the people that started supporting Efe right from the stage, those are true fans and it will be highly narcisstic of me to tell them to drop their support and move over to another housemates.

My anger is on how unfair the whole thing is....oh Bisola made me laugh today but Efe will win the money, oh TTT did well at the task today but Efe will win the money. It seems like nothing the other housemates do or say wins them any point. Efe can sleep his way from now to the final and will still enjoy massive support, why should that be? Does it mean we are encouraging laziness and lack of drive?

Typical example of this will be Uriel and the fake housemates, Uriel has never listed Efe as a potential winner in all her diary session. In the house she was closest to Bassey who she confessed time and time again she had a crush on. Uriel is evicted, she sees the percentage and she is suddenly team Efe.John and Ese were just like us ,fans watching from the outside, they go into the house for two weeks sees Efe has no game and when they were asked on stage who will win ,they both picked TTT. Fast forward to today they are all screaming Efe because that's what the majority are saying, no one wants to be left behind.

Now I need to correct something, people have been yapping at me saying TTT and Bassey had no previous acting experience. What I meant to say is that Bassey has never acted as an MC before, it is new to him as he has listed it time and time again as something he would like to go into but never had an experience of. TTT is a professional dancer and choreographer ,a few music themed stage plays does not suddenly make him an actor which made what he did all the more impressive .

Closing remark.. .. Let us give other housemates a chance .Morality has never been the focal point of this season. All of them have shown at one point or another that they are malicious, petty, gossipy and vindictive. Let us judge them based on what they bring to the table. As for fans of other housemates jumping ship ,I say a big shame to you because you do not know the power you possess, you have no idea the difference your vote or lack of it would make. Stand for who you stand for and lose with grace rather than joining the crowd and get lost in it.

For they shall come in multitude, with their spears and arrows and knives and armours, but we do not fear because we recognise the power in us. We know our the strength in us, and it is not in the armour or gun nor knives and blades but in our heart that endureth all.

grin

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by PrincessKab: 11:08am On Mar 10, 2017
Alright. Thank you.
However, I'm sure when you were reading, you didn't skip anywhere I wrote that I'm human but will try my best(which means I can make mistakes and stand to be corrected, in admittance ), that they can prove me wrong when I do.
BTW, you can also assist in updating also, so you can cover up for people like us when we make mistakes, and not trying to judge us cos it's been boiling inside you before now from your word of inference "defend everything", and your interpretation of trying too hard is writing long epistles from the updates I write, I don't just get. But if you can't update and are writing this, pls keep off.
When someone updates, you'll be the one to say the person is bias cos he or she removed info or didn't update what someone said, if one tries to put almost all the information together, you'll conclude he/she is trying too hard or writing epistles. Pls, watch it.
I'll repeat again, "When I'm wrong, point it out", I stand to be corrected.


Heebah:
Madam abeg stop all dis epistle abeg,u try too hard. You r biased,n its normal cos u r human. Everybody has a favourite,and u r not different. Stop trying to defend everything u do,u also make mistakes. The best thing to do is learn from it wen pple point it out to u. Peace!!!!

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by Bae026: 11:09am On Mar 10, 2017
#EfeNation

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by Laveda(f): 11:12am On Mar 10, 2017
Ndifereke:


Who gives a fuck_ whether you like Efe or not? Who cares about giving you any reason to support a housemate? Do I look like I care? You must be mistaking me for someone that sells fucks_. I don't sell one and I don't care. I'm just tired of you not practicing what you preach.

I don't vote or campaign for any HM and I don't care if any or all them even gets evicted this minute. I find it annoyingly hypocritical that ThreeLIAR made his case on why Efe doesn't deserve the cash, then another person countered him without insult, showing decency enough not to fight dirty. Both made their cases, what you'd have done as a learned individual was to counter her too. What's so hard in doing that?

For the umpteenth time, BBN is not a talent show, it's a reality show where a group of people are enclosed in a house for some period of time and viewers get to watch their characters and how humans relate with one another. During the show you'll get to see the different characters in humans like betrayal, snitching, love, anger, hate, gossiping, ganging up on others, including talents of the HMs like Debie and Uriel's singing, TTT and Bisola's acting, etc. Viewers are expected to vote whom they like based on whatever is their reason. You don't choose for them.

It's not about talents, if it is, then tell me what are the talents of Dillish, Idris, Cherish, WenDULL and the rest of the winners.

Mehn you just have sense. kisskiss

Even the dumbtards that can't offer nothing are talking shït.

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by Ndifereke: 11:15am On Mar 10, 2017
Foxrain:

My anger is on how unfair the whole thing is.... oh Bisola made me laugh today but Efe will win the money, oh TTT did well at the task today but Efe will win the money. It seems like nothing the other housemates do or say wins them any point.

You see why I detest your hypocrisy? You see why I say you're very confused? So TTT and Bisola didn't get praise for their acting and funny acts from you and you still supported and are still supporting Tboss? Didn't other HMs made you laugh sometimes but yet you left them and supported Gifty? So whenever a HM does something commendable, people will drop their candidates and support him or her and then leave that HM for another that does something commendable the next hour or day? You sir, are more confused and lack identity. What a shame.

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by PrincessKab: 11:15am On Mar 10, 2017
Pls, If there's anything I've written about her that wasn't shown, or anything I write about about her that didn't happen, kindly point it out whenever. She's not the only one I write about, and I don't say people are bias when they write about my favorite even when I feel they are or there's so much Hate for it, I don't counter them cos I'm updating and don't want to be taking sides.
Let's tryna be tolerant pls.
Thank you!


sod09:
madam u are very bias, ur hatred for Debbie rise is so obvious. not cool

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by Heebah: 11:16am On Mar 10, 2017
PrincessKab:
Alright. Thank you.
However, I'm sure when you were reading, you didn't skip anywhere I wrote that I'm human but will try my best(which means I can make mistakes and stand to be corrected, in admittance ), that they can prove me wrong when I do.
BTW, you can also assist in updating also, so you can cover up for people like us when we make mistakes, and not trying to judge us cos it's been boiling inside you before now from your word of inference "defend everything", and your interpretation of trying too hard is writing long epistles from the updates I write, I don't just get. But if you can't update and are writing this, pls keep off.
When someone updates, you'll be the one to say the person is bias cos he or she removed info or didn't update what someone said, if one tries to put almost all the information together, you'll conclude he/she is trying too hard. Pls, watch it.
I'll repeat again, "When I'm wrong, point it out", I stand to be corrected.


Madam if u want to update,update. Stop looking for cheap accolades from people,stop making it sound like u r doing us a favour by updating. Don't tell me to keep off,I have every right to comment on something when its mixed with hypocrisy n dats what I sense in all ur post.

Oh! I forgot.u said u r 16...am not surprised. U have a lot of growing up to do. Peace!!!

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by Nobody: 11:17am On Mar 10, 2017
efe fans will be claiming saints now cause mouthed people are after them , i didnt even notice the efe till i started frequenting this thread and it was their boastful nature that got me angry , all my quarrels on nairaland started like that , people trying to undermine others , we attack efe cause he is flawed and dumb. ttt , bisola , tboss , marvis , debbie, bassey can all be attacked bt u wont get to the borderline that efe will give u , because most of them have sense at least , he is the claimed youngest , he is the ugliest , he is the dulllest , he is the smelling one , he is the one that refuses to learn , he is the one that is trully poor and he is the least talented one

debbie sings and plays guitar
bassey is a good orator
ttt and bisola any need to direct ur tots?
bally is a dj and a good radio host
tboss has looks working for her
marvis is smart and raps


they all have prospects , if u give them money u know where they are headed with it

efe says he is a rapper , whoever watched him at the most expensive wedding he will ever be part of yesterday will clearly see what anyone with eye balls sees , efe isnt a rapper , i remember the look ice prince gave him wen he said he is a rapper from jos cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

lets make more sense , the only pidgin english musician that i can think of now is daddy shooky and what happened to his career?

rap is poetry na why we spend money buying and hearing it , pidgin is a lazy mans language how can u relate both biko?



i have proved that efe is fake bt they would run wen dey see common sense , all those itk calling it hbp , its like u dont know me sha cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy wen i see a hole , i will hammer it till it destroys the entire object

this thread is for all housemates if u think u can force people with stupid bombing of the word efe to make them fans , then sorry i wont allow u do that , PrincessKab aka safarigirl ure biased and u claim one nation and one love , then carry ur alternates to like ur comments , when efe loses u will deactivate and run away cheesy i get ur logic bt abeg dont ever mention me again with ur nonsense biko , give ur self fulfilling one nation advice to urself in ur safari

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by sod09(m): 11:18am On Mar 10, 2017
PrincessKab:
Pls, If there's anything I've written about her that wasn't shown, or anything I write about about her that didn't happen, kindly point it out whenever. She's not the only one I write about, and I don't say people are bias when they write about my favorite even when I feel they are or there's so much Hate for it, I don't counter them cos I'm updating and don't want to be taking sides.
Let's tryna be tolerant pls.
Thank you!


since efe is ur favourite stick wit him... stop over exaggerating on what d hm think about debbie rise

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by Ndifereke: 11:19am On Mar 10, 2017
Laveda:


Mehn you just have sense. kisskiss

Even the dumbtards that can't offer nothing are talking shït.

Anyone looking for talents in a reality show and using it to degrade others is very confused. Ask any of them to list the talents of Wendull that did NOTHING TANGIBLE and still won, where was his talents and they run away with their tails between their legs. Ask them to list the talents of Dillish that COULDN'T EVEN WIN A SINGLE TASK, and they will disappear like stains on a cloth when bleach attacks. Confused Haters, that's what they are.

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by moststylish(m): 11:20am On Mar 10, 2017
Foxrain:
You guys are still up dissecting the housemates?Had a busy day today so got most of the updates here. And yes I skipped all of princess whatevers updates.

My take on this big brother .

I was one of the people clamouring for big brother Nigeria when regional voting became a thing and I felt it was unfair to any Nigerian contestant because other countries have sworn never to let us win. To say big brother Nigeria turned out to be a massive disappointment would be an understatement.

Nigerians are the most myopic and stubborn people I've ever come across, and not only is there stubbornness responsible for the degenerating state of our economy but it is about to ruin the big brother Nigerian franchise too.

Let's use today's task as an example TTT and Bassey easily stole the show, for people who have never acted before they showed massive determination and stole the show. In any other season of Big brother this would have won them major points and made them strong contenders but not this season because right from when the show started, it has been the other housemates can entertain us but Efe will take the money. Which is disgraceful and disgusting.

There is nothing like grace, it is time people woke up and got sensible, religion has been the tool used to hinder us in this country, because we jump into everything and overuse it even more than people that created it.

One thing I've learnt about life is that when it comes easy, it will definitely go easy. Efe has done nothing to deserve this money about to be handed to him, and just like he doesn't deserve it, he will misuse it. Typical example is Wendall who many people felt was undeserving of the money, he lost every penny and then went on to commit fraud, he is currently in prison now serving a long sentence.

A lot of people currently supporting Efe don't even know why they are supporting him, you ask them they say he has grace Grace is not a thing, it is a tool the devil is using to keep us down. You ask a ritualist how he made his money he says "na god " you ask a yahoo boy he says "na god " you see our singers that smoke weed, commit fornications like dogs and have done precious videos featuring naked women but when they make songs like osinachi ,fada fada or Godwin we are jumping up and down even though we know the lord does not approve of that lifestyle ,but we are spiritually and religiously blind.


Ending notes :I won't deny that Efe not winning this money is becoming nearly impossible with the amount of supporters trooping in on daily basis, some even abandoning their personal favorite Just to make it happen, but I will never go down without a ferocious fight. Keep underestimating me, and you will be surprised.

Last but not the least... Am currently in prison, so I will honour the moderator that sent me there for whatever duration. But when I come back, if you feel I was fire now be ready to experience a furnace, if you think I was a wind, then be ready for a tornado. I won't show any mercy. As for that evil princess and the fat bloated pig, I know this is your handwork and am coming for you both.

May the peace of the lord be with us all, now and forever and ever. Amen. grin
trash....if u like dont go and vote ur favourite contestant, be busy typing long epistle

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by Nobody: 11:21am On Mar 10, 2017
PrincessKab:
She put spring rolls inside her drawer, as a birthday prank. But TBoss didn't take it well, got angry and emotional to the extent of crying, like a baby...


"MADAM BIAS UPDATER".... IT WAS NOT A PRANK..

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by tng(f): 11:22am On Mar 10, 2017
All these attack on PrincessKab for simply giving updates. Na wa o. If you all are so pained about her "biased" updates, give your unbiased one or dont read her comments.

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by Misswang001(f): 11:22am On Mar 10, 2017
Exactly.
Ndifereke:


You see why I detest your hypocrisy? You see why I say you're very confused? So TTT and Bisola didn't get praise for their acting and funny acts from you and you still supported and are still supporting Tboss? Didn't other HMs made you laugh sometimes but yet you left them and supported Gifty? So whenever a HM does something commendable, people will drop their candidates and support him or her and then leave that HM for another that does something commendable the next hour or day? You sir, are more confused and lack identity. What a shame.
Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by sitippe: 11:24am On Mar 10, 2017
DAMAGE CONTROL: BBNAIJA MAKES U-TURN, SETTLES KEMEN SIGNS NEW AGREEMENT

Payporte, sponsors of the Controversial Big Brother Naija (BBN) has released an apology purportedly written by Kemen, who was fraudulently disqualified from the House.

The statement which was arrived at after Kemen and his managers met with Payporte and managers of BBN, is aimed at stopping widespread criticisms against the injustice.

Sources say that Kemen was handsomely paid, while he signed an undertaking not to generate scandal dor BBN.

The released apology was made to coincide with International Women’s Day as a means to revive the ailing fortune of the reality show.

more at http://sitippe.com/2017/03/damage-control-bbnaija-makes-u-turn-settles-kemen-signs-new-agreement/

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by Ndifereke: 11:25am On Mar 10, 2017
CuteJude:
tboss has looks working for her
Tboss' beauty is her talent? And this is someone who's been granted access to Internet? Maria's SMART and that's a talent? Lord, I'm tired. grin grin grin

Bros, you don win. Carry go. I'm done on this topic.

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by Nobody: 11:28am On Mar 10, 2017
Ndifereke:


So even with all your DStv Explorer you don't even know anything about BBA? So much for looking down on channel 29 users. What a lost soul. grin grin
common cheesy do want to be beaten again? woundnt it be stupid of me to cram all the winners in my head? how is that inclined with my progress


we can talk about u grin if u dont mind grin ndifereke means loving somtin cheesy cheesy cheesy shame u have to seek love from ur moniker , how lonely are u?

channel 29 user let me educate u , first up dstv explorer timeline is 2hrs long also i cant get information abt past editions on it , its not a computer , not that i expect u to understand , with ur 10sec to load decoder ,


let me pity u and stop typing b4 i waste ur 10mb one day sub
Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by Nobody: 11:30am On Mar 10, 2017
Ndifereke:

Tboss' beauty is her talent? And this is someone who's been granted access to Internet? Maria's SMART and that's a talent? Lord, I'm tired. grin grin grin

Bros, you don win. Carry go. I'm done on this topic.
beauty working for her means alot of things , she can be an actress or model , guy go school abeg , nairaland is not education

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by newguy1(m): 11:32am On Mar 10, 2017
No trust in the house,.. fear of woman grin

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by Nobody: 11:32am On Mar 10, 2017
sitippe:
DAMAGE CONTROL: BBNAIJA MAKES U-TURN, SETTLES KEMEN SIGNS NEW AGREEMENT

Payporte, sponsors of the Controversial Big Brother Naija (BBN) has released an apology purportedly written by Kemen, who was fraudulently disqualified from the House.

The statement which was arrived at after Kemen and his managers met with Payporte and managers of BBN, is aimed at stopping widespread criticisms against the injustice.

Sources say that Kemen was handsomely paid, while he signed an undertaking not to generate scandal dor BBN.

The released apology was made to coincide with International Women’s Day as a means to revive the ailing fortune of the reality show.

more at http://sitippe.com/2017/03/damage-control-bbnaija-makes-u-turn-settles-kemen-signs-new-agreement/
lies cheesy cheesy cheesy that was an assault anywhere , even in animal planet na assault
Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by Nobody: 11:33am On Mar 10, 2017
newguy1:
No trust in the house,.. fear of woman
and they slept together last night undecided get a tv pls

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by Laveda(f): 11:33am On Mar 10, 2017
Ndifereke:


Anyone looking for talents in a reality show and using it to degrade others is very confused. Ask any of them to list the talents of Wendull that did NOTHING TANGIBLE and still won, where was his talents and they run away with their tails between their legs. Ask them to list the talents of Dillish that COULDN'T EVEN WIN A SINGLE TASK, and they will disappear like stains on a cloth when bleach attacks. Confused Haters, that's what they are.

Trust me, they are all being hypocritical..

When Idris won the last BBA, I didn't see anything so spectacular he did that was different from every other housemate..

Okay Maky2 was an artist, why didn't he win since its about what you can do..

These haters are beginning to sound stupid to Me, they should let the boy be and face their preferred HM.

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by Nobody: 11:35am On Mar 10, 2017
sitippe:
DAMAGE CONTROL: BBNAIJA MAKES U-TURN, SETTLES KEMEN SIGNS NEW AGREEMENT

Payporte, sponsors of the Controversial Big Brother Naija (BBN) has released an apology purportedly written by Kemen, who was fraudulently disqualified from the House.

The statement which was arrived at after Kemen and his managers met with Payporte and managers of BBN, is aimed at stopping widespread criticisms against the injustice.

Sources say that Kemen was handsomely paid, while he signed an undertaking not to generate scandal dor BBN.

The released apology was made to coincide with International Women’s Day as a means to revive the ailing fortune of the reality show.

more at http://sitippe.com/2017/03/damage-control-bbnaija-makes-u-turn-settles-kemen-signs-new-agreement/
LOL...HOPE YOU WISH TO BE KEMENIZED SOON..
SAY AMEN.
Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by sirfee(m): 11:36am On Mar 10, 2017
temmyo:


Confit for the win yo! Nigerians be doing suffer head cooking for years.
grin Africans and surprises are like 5 and 6,we are the funniest people on earth.We prefer the odd things to the normal ones,we shall get there one day.Good morning.
Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by rhosmherhy(f): 11:38am On Mar 10, 2017
hmm
Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by carammel(f): 11:39am On Mar 10, 2017
This thread sef,update na wahala,dont update na another stress,they will say you are biased.

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by waxdude: 11:39am On Mar 10, 2017
Epistle everywhere..... una Wehdon oooo

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by BoosBae(f): 11:42am On Mar 10, 2017
Marvis be noticing how weird and funny Bally chews on one side grin, but madam hasn't noticed how she chews her lips like a goat gringringrin. Na wa for world people. Na real wa cheesy
Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by PrincessKab: 11:45am On Mar 10, 2017
Thank you.
My point exactly, update yours, lemme update mine, I don't understand the criticisms.
They can't tell me to stick to a favorite or not update about one particular HM. It's a live thread, let's complement and support one another, especially in terms of omissions, so let them update theirs too.
So many people here saying what's not about some particular HM's, to the extent of cursing or insulting, they aren't going for such people, it's cowardice to come at someone they can't prove wrong about writing giving a wrong update about your favorite housemate cos you know it's what your HM did. You can defend her by countering my "opinion", but don't say my updates are bias cos I don't update what's not. And that wasn't an update but an opinion, so the "bias updates" was uncalled for.
My opinions are different from updates, and I differentiate them when updating.
"She shouldn't have dropped the basket, instead she should have used it to complete her costume then drop it whenever it was time to sing" is obviously an opinion or did I say Biggie say so? So, I don't understand what they mean by "bias updates"...
Anyways, I'm done with them. Moving on...



tng:
All these attack on PrincessKab for simply giving updates. Na wa o. If you all are so pained about her "biased" updates, give your unbiased one or dont read her comments.

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Re: Big Brother Naija 2017: Live Thread by 100naira(m): 11:45am On Mar 10, 2017
Anybody hear wetin marvis and bisola been de talk about Tboss before they switched to traffic and driving.?

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