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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 9:06pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
bigkesh: When that fish meet real big fishes in the ocean, it will then realise just how ordinary and average it is. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 9:08pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
airmark: It is not rocket science, when will tell him this, he will look for one silly excuse to exonerate those players. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 9:08pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
timbros: Firstly the only thing that your chart shows for sure is that Kane is scoring at a faster rate than Lukaku, which is hardly surprising considering that Spurs have created more chances than Everton this season, and have created more chances per minute than Everton this season. In terms of raw numbers, Lukaku is currently ahead of both Kane and Costa. If we use the stats that you provided, misused as they are, Lukaku beats out Costa and is only slightly behind Kane in terms of goal scoring rate (which does not take into account his penalties). So we have a player that is in the same performance bracket as the strikers at the top of the league. Have you not asked yourself why Lukaku is stuck in 6th despite doing similar to, or better than the strikers in the top 4? Did you not ask yourself that before stating that his 19 goals are useless because Everton are 6th? Number 6 man! Number 6! |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by macjireh: 9:13pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
na wa 4 arsenal o. how on earth would they use their EPL top players to play a non-league Lincoln.... na real wa |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 9:13pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
Also Timbros, the less said about Lukaku on the wing, the better. It's embarrassing that you keep bringing that up. There are legitimate concerns about Lukaku's suitability, but you seem to have chosen the most outlandish things to say to discredit the lad. A striker with 19 goals so far (topping EPL scorers list) is not doing enough. And Lukaku is useless because he didn't score on the wing at Chelsea. Number 6 bro. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 9:13pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
Chelseafan1:You're being utterly ridiculous... See why: 1. Isco, James, Rafinha don't play the same position as hazard and they are not even in the first team. In barca, Neymar is the one who plays Hazard's position, in Madrid, it's Ronaldo, in Bayern, it's Ribery. All more accomplished players than Neymar. No sensible club breaks the bank for a player that will sit on the bench or will not be able to play in his natural position..... When hazard left for Chelsea, were Madrid ready to break the bank for him? No, they had Ronaldo. 2. Ronaldo was the star player at Man U, a bigger club than Chelsea. That didn't stop Madrid from getting him. Ditto for bale. And if either of Madrid or barca wanted hazard desperately while he was at Lille, they would have gotten him. And Madrid have not signed Neymar because he is at barca... Madrid were ready to break the bank for Neymar while he was very young. They were not ready to do same for hazard |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 9:14pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
timbros: Why stop at UCL qualification? Why didn't Suarez win the league for Liverpool? His goals must be useless. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 9:16pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
Nihilist: Why will you use raw numbers when Lukaku has played more minutes compared to Kane? Do you expect Kane with fewer minutes to outscore Lukaku? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 9:17pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
Nihilist: My first comment on Lukaku's goals is not about winning the league for Everton, remember? So why should Suarez's be about winning the league? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 9:20pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
Nihilist: Where is Sturridge preferred position and where was he played at Chelsea? Did he post 0 goals? I'm not discrediting him. It's you who is over hyping him. Let's just leave him as the average player he is. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 9:21pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
jonsnow92: You are not arguing but chose to quote him instead of the original poster. Next time, correct him not me. Same way Suarez scored 31 goals to qualify Pool is the same way Hazard's goals helped Chelsea win the league, Europa and ucl qualification too. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 9:22pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
timbros: You mean same way Suarez met big fish in Barca (ocean) and now playing averagely and ordinarily? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 9:23pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
Chelseafan1: Are you in any way trying to compare Lukaku and Suarez? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 9:28pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
randomperson: You are the ridiculous one here cos Hazard can play virtually all the attacking positions not only 7th. Are you a Learner? So, why couldn't they get him for any of those other positions. Or you want me to refer to your initial post? Number two, you keep typing 'break the bank' , Can u explain why you are using the phrase 'break the bank'. Do you use 'break the bank' for just an average kind of player.? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 9:29pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
timbros: Are you thinking at all? Is Golden boot awarded per minutes played? If you want to make a nuanced argument, you look at Chances created per team, and you look at the frequency of those chances. You look at the key men in the supporting cast and check their pass accuracy and how many key passes they make per game. At Spurs not only are the likes of Eriksen topping the chances created table in the EPL, even their fullbacks in Rose and Walker are topping the chances created table for defenders. Lukaku scoring 19 goals, with no Penalties unlike Kane's 4, playing in a team inferior to Kane's on literally any metric you can think of, is actually something to be applauded. Number 6 man...Jesus 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 9:29pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
timbros: I am only making reference to your analogy? Besides, how many trophies did Suarez's goals won for Liverpool? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 9:31pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
timbros: Are you kidding me? Does Lukaku look like a winger to you? Infact can you show me one winger in any of the top 5 leagues with Lukaku's physical profile? What kind of Misyarns are these sef? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 9:35pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
Chelseafan1: Spot the difference between a big fish and an average fish... Suarez club career: Ajax, goes higher to Liverpool, moves even higher to Barcelona. Lukaku: Anderlecht, moves higher to Chelsea. flops. Drops down to Everton. Besides, how many trophy have Lukaku won for Everton? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 9:37pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
Nihilist: How many games did Sturridge play centrally for Chelsea? Did he use that as an excuse? Stop making excuses for Lukaku please. He flopped in Chelsea. Everton and West Brom are his level. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 9:39pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
timbros: Nawa oh, who should we blame, he is a striker, he scored a lot of goals, but the team hasn't qualified just because Soccer is a game of 11 players not just one-man sport. Is it that you do not know this b4? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by jonsnow92: 9:41pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
Obere4u:You aren't getting it Suarez never heard the Uefa anthem played at An field He left immediately they qualified.. If he had played then it could have been a different story |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 9:41pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
timbros:The fact that Sturridge is more suited on the wings doesn't make him a better CF If I play Drogba and Firmino on the wings and he outscoreS Drogba, does that make him a better CF? Don't be ridiculous |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 9:42pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
timbros: How many trophies did Suarez win for Liverpool? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 9:43pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
timbros: He didn't flop.. . Even if he did, he was 18 FFS I guess Diego Forlan never became good enough for Chivita FC |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 9:45pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
Nihilist: Kane's OVERALL PERFORMANCE is better than Lukaku's. No supporting cast is needed there. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 9:49pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
Chelseafan1: Stop asking me about trophies. It's not like Lukaku won any for Everton. If you followed this debate from beginning, you will see I mentioned that Lukaku's 19 goals have not even given them any European spot. Wetin bring trophy for the talk? Suarez 31goals qualified Liverpool for UCL. Don't ask me about trophies again biko. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 9:50pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
timbros: I am enjoying you guys back and forth and didn't want to interrupt. The emboldened actually means nothing, lassana diarra is an example of a player whose career tumbled after playing for chelsea but later came back to play for real madrid. There are players like that. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 9:53pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
timbros: Lukaku's overall performance is better than Costa yet Costa is in 1st place and Lukaku is in 6th at least according to your stats. So Costa's goals are useless, no? See why I said use number 6? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 9:53pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
bigkesh: Playing in the wings is not enough reason why you can't register a single goal in not 1, 2, 3 or 4 matches. 10 matches! But you register your first goal in West Brom in less than 15mins. Drogba cannot play 10 games from the wing and not register a goal. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by coded01: 9:54pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 9:56pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
airmark: It means a lot. He played a big team and flopped. But played two average teams and shine. What does that make him? Average fish in small pond. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by timbros(m): 9:57pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
Nihilist: Costa's goals have given us 2 trophies already. How many have Lukaku given Everton? |
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