Greatihex:
as at the time pep went to Bayern, they were treble winners and back to back ucl finaliats, but pep turned them to wives of Wolfsburg, Madrid and Barcelona.

Ibime:


Blame the boss Alonso. If na Baba Wasteman who you were championing at LB, Ake would be at God level now.

The finality of the matter is that Ake is a boss player, 10 times better than Baba Wasteman who you were trying to send him away for. That was the debate, not this story you are telling us now.

We take care of our needs first as a club. For example, if Cahill gets injured today, Ake is the only player you can trust in that LCB, not relying on Matt Miazga and co. So we take care of our needs first, simple.

Same way if you are going into a season with Baba Wasteman as your first choice leftback, you must be uber incompetent to send Ake away.

Who knows, if Conte had spent preseason with Ake, we may have never gone in for Alonso. It's the same thing that happened on the other side when Conte spent preseason with Moses. As it is, Moses has developed more at Chelsea than in 3 years away on loan.

So leave the development story cover-up. You cannot send Ake away to develop, while simultaneously relying on Baba Wasteman in your first team.

Greatihex:
i will explain. Costa's goals have won more points for his team than any other player in the epl.

Nihilist:


Ake has gone from playing week in week out to not even making the Bench for Chelsea. So he's not even in the running to replace Cahill if that one get's injured - Zouma is, and Terry is second backup.

Even at LWB, Pedro is second choice after Alonso.

If Ake, is not making the bench, he is not trusted by the manager. If Ake is not making the bench, then he is not developing. It really is that simple.

I'm not sure what the point of referring to Rahman is, being as he is currently out on loan.

coded01:


Cc dmcdad, sebod, bykebyke, Mcdreeezy, Homesteady

Ibime:


Ake is well trusted by the manager. The same manager recalled him remember? Why? Because he might need him,.

bigkesh:
They told us Robben and Ribery were aging
The same Duo driving Bayern this season

Nihilist:


Prove this.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3096077/Harry-Kane-s-goals-won-Tottenham-points-Ander-Herrera-scored-six-seven-shots-target-Manchester-City-team-without-goalless-draw-s-season-stats.html

Greatihex:


www.chelseafc.com/news/blogs/boilerplate-allincfc/allincfc/diego-makes-the-difference.html

Nihilist:


Which is what I'm saying. Ake has gone from a place where he was a guaranteed starter to someone who might be needed

How is that different to Kennedy? And what happens if nobody get's injured? He continues to develop on the training pitch innit?

Puhlease.

It's like I said at the start of the season, when yourself, diggz, mithel and co were chewing me out for having the temerity to agree with sending Ake out on loan - Ake is NOT ready.

If you can't make the bench against, Leicester, Swansea, or West Ham, you're not ready. If the only time you make the team is when the club is playing lower league opposition, you're not ready.

So it begs the question, why interrupt Ake's development at Bournemouth? The guy was gaining invaluable EPL experience every weekend - and now is only available to make up the numbers, and play backup to the backup. He has absolutely no chance in midfield this season, and is behind 5 defenders for a CB spot. He's also behind Alonso and Pedro(Or even Willian) at LWB


Can you even describe Ake as a squad player these days considering that he doesn't actually make the squad?


What a waste.

Nihilist:


Has this season finished?

Timbros said Costa's goals won us the league, you are here posting a :

1. Completely useless stat
2. A stat that isn't even relevant to the season we won the league.

What is wrong with you people sef?

Ibime:


My friend, you are twisting the argument. Your argument was that Rahman is better than Ake so Ake should be sent on loan.

Greatihex:
why don't you go and check the post i quoted and if this your post is making sense.

Nihilist:


As a left Back, Baba Rahman us better than Ake.

Rahman was an immediate starter at Schalke until Afcon injury. Ake did not see shirt at Bournemouth till much later on in the season and at centre back. Schalke to Bournemouth are not mates in football.

Ake is back now and is not even making the bench. So you can't compare him to Chalobah who us actually making the bench and getting some league minutes.

I said then that Ale was not ready. He's been called back and is not making the squad. What point are you even trying to make sef? How is Ake currently different to Ola Aina or Kennedy?

Ibime:


Baba Rahman was no starting player for Schalke. How can someone who started just 44% of Schalke league games be described as a starting player? If you insist on forming strong-headed with your inane Baba Wasteman better than Ake argument, we will use that same head to open coconut.

Nihilist:


Baba Rahman plays more games for Schalke than Ake did for Bournemouth.

Out of 16 games, He started 7, came of the bench 6 times and only missed 3 games. He also started 4 out 6 European games for them. Started 1 out of 2 cup games.

So he started 12 out 24 games. And played in total, 21 of those 24 games. You're the accountant So you do the maths.

Ibime:


Forget European games, that is Europa league where teams send their substitutes to play.
.

Nihilist:


Stop lying.

Go and check the team sheets for all Schalke's Europa games and see if it was the 'reserves' as you describe it.

Ale played only 12 games for Bournemouth who are nobodies in football. Rahman managed 21 games for Schalke who are European regulars.

Take your L.

Good night.

Ibime:


Hahahahaha. I can't believe you are talking about the L in relation to Ake and Rahman.

Nigga the L you are holding on this matter has travelled abroad and come back with PHD.

You told us Rahman was better than Ake. Conte literally chased Rahman out the club with koboko like Cherubim and Seraphim exorcist. Chelsea had no left back when Rahman was chased. In other words, Conte said "having no leftback is better than having you".

Then the same Conte went and begged Ake to return, then rejected £18m offer for him ontop.

Not only that but Ake was given Rahman shirt number with the indication from the club that Rahmans Chelsea career is over.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/578874/Baba-Rahman-Chelsea-transfer-news-shirt-number-Nathan-Ake

Ake literally took Rahman spot, took his shirt number and kicked him out the club forever. No greater L has been given since Jacob stole Esau's birthright.

One L is not enough for this Rahman vs Ake debate. Nihilist, you better hold two Ls like LL Cool Js wife in za oza room.

Nihilist:


Rahman is away in Germany, On Loan, and injured.

What does he need the shirt for anyway? Did you really need to type 8 paragraphs simply to make the point that a player who is not playing is wearing the shirt of another player who is also not playing?

Take an L for being up so late, another L for ineffective use of Forum Space, and one more L for wasting my time.

I'm not sure what you want to do with all these Ls you're accumulating -You could move to Mexico and start selling them there. Call yourself L Chapo.

Ibime:



La ilaha illa-llah, Muhammadu-rasulu-llah

Ašhadu an la ilaha illa-llah.

Subhana-llahi, wa-l-hamdu li-llahi, wa la ilaha illa-llahu, wa-llahu akbar. Wa la hawla wa la quwwata illa bi-llahi-l-aliyyi-l-azeem

La ilaha illa-llahu wahdahu la šharika lahu lahu-l-mulku wa lahu-l-hamdu yuhyi wa yumitu biyadihi-l-khayr, wa huwa ala kulli šhayin qadir


I'm not reciting Kalimahs nigga, I'm counting your Ls.


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bigkesh:

They told us Robben and Ribery were aging

The same Duo driving Bayern this season

Chelseafan1:


You are the ridiculous one here cos Hazard can play virtually all the attacking positions not only 7th. Are you a Learner?
So, why couldn't they get him for any of those other positions.
Or you want me to refer to your initial post?

Number two, you keep typing 'break the bank' , Can u explain why you are using the phrase 'break the bank'.
Do you use 'break the bank' for just an average kind of player.?

Nihilist:


Firstly the only thing that your chart shows for sure is that Kane is scoring at a faster rate than Lukaku, which is hardly surprising considering that Spurs have created more chances than Everton this season, and have created more chances per minute than Everton this season.

In terms of raw numbers, Lukaku is currently ahead of both Kane and Costa.

If we use the stats that you provided, misused as they are, Lukaku beats out Costa and is only slightly behind Kane in terms of goal scoring rate (which does not take into account his penalties).

So we have a player that is in the same performance bracket as the strikers at the top of the league.

Have you not asked yourself why Lukaku is stuck in 6th despite doing similar to, or better than the strikers in the top 4? Did you not ask yourself that before stating that his 19 goals are useless because Everton are 6th?

Number 6 man! Number 6!

randomperson:

Hazard can play all the attacking positions but will he play the 10 position as well as he plays the left wing?
Why buy hazard to play as a central attacking midfielder when you can buy an actual attacking midfielder like de bruyne, or silva. In fact Madrid even have James and Isco. So why buy hazard whose passing range is not even that impressive.
You will need to break the bank to get any very good player currently... Pogba went for about a hundred million. So why break the bank for someone who is not better than your first choice attackers?

raumdeuter:


How is Ribery driving Bayern this season?

If we list the important players to Bayern attack Ribery wont make top 3. But being CHelsea fans misyarns are allowed

Chelseafan1:


You know what I have forgotten the basis of this argument, u took too long to reply. Have a good day.


All I know is that, Madrid and Barca are greater than Chelsea and when Hazard chose Chelsea, no one expected to sign him from a club he just joined as the star man.


Your excuse that if he was good enuf, he would have been signed, does not hold water.


And yes, it is very easy to win the UCL with Barca/Madrid than it is with Chelsea or any other club in the world.
Madrid has 10, Chelsea just won 1, the one they even struggled to win all these years when Madrid is on course to win the 11th.

raumdeuter:


How is Ribery driving Bayern this season?

If we list the important players to Bayern attack Ribery wont make top 3. But being CHelsea fans misyarns are allowed