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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 11:41pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
They are saying Mourinho is the new Hiddink. . . . the unbeaten one, but all of them na draw. 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 11:41pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
Greatihex:They told us Robben and Ribery were aging The same Duo driving Bayern this season 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 11:46pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
Ibime: Ake has gone from playing week in week out to not even making the Bench for Chelsea. So he's not even in the running to replace Cahill if that one get's injured - Zouma is, and Terry is second backup. Even at LWB, Pedro is second choice after Alonso. If Ake, is not making the bench, he is not trusted by the manager. If Ake is not making the bench, then he is not developing. It really is that simple. I'm not sure what the point of referring to Rahman is, being as he is currently out on loan. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 11:47pm On Mar 11, 2017 |
Greatihex: Prove this. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3096077/Harry-Kane-s-goals-won-Tottenham-points-Ander-Herrera-scored-six-seven-shots-target-Manchester-City-team-without-goalless-draw-s-season-stats.html
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:01am On Mar 12, 2017 |
Nihilist: Ake is well trusted by the manager. The same manager recalled him remember? Why? Because he might need him, not for any other reason. He trusted him so much, he was happy to send Ivanovic away. Who you put on the bench depends on your mix of players. Zouma is substitute RCB, Terry is substitute CB and Ake is substitute LCB. You cannot put all 3 on the bench at the same time, but if Cahill gets injured, Ake will be first in line. Rahman is relevant because that's the root of where this Ake debate started. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by mcdreeezy: 12:04am On Mar 12, 2017 |
coded01:It's a good thing they're seeing the light. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 12:17am On Mar 12, 2017 |
Ibime: Which is what I'm saying. Ake has gone from a place where he was a guaranteed starter to someone who might be needed How is that different to Kennedy? And what happens if nobody get's injured? He continues to develop on the training pitch innit? Puhlease. It's like I said at the start of the season, when yourself, diggz, mithel and co were chewing me out for having the temerity to agree with sending Ake out on loan - Ake is NOT ready. If you can't make the bench against, Leicester, Swansea, or West Ham, you're not ready. If the only time you make the team is when the club is playing lower league opposition, you're not ready. So it begs the question, why interrupt Ake's development at Bournemouth? The guy was gaining invaluable EPL experience every weekend - and now is only available to make up the numbers, and play backup to the backup. He has absolutely no chance in midfield this season, and is behind 5 defenders for a CB spot. He's also behind Alonso and Pedro(Or even Willian) at LWB Can you even describe Ake as a squad player these days considering that he doesn't actually make the squad? What a waste. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 12:30am On Mar 12, 2017 |
bigkesh:don't mind him |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 12:30am On Mar 12, 2017 |
Nihilist: www.chelseafc.com/news/blogs/boilerplate-allincfc/allincfc/diego-makes-the-difference.html |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 12:49am On Mar 12, 2017 |
Greatihex: Has this season finished? Timbros said Costa's goals won us the league, you are here posting a : 1. Completely useless stat 2. A stat that isn't even relevant to the season we won the league. What is wrong with you people sef? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 12:50am On Mar 12, 2017 |
Nihilist: My friend, you are twisting the argument. Your argument was that Rahman is better than Ake so Ake should be sent on loan. That has been proven patently false. Rahman was not better than Ake. Who is better than Ake now are Alonso and Cahill, and that may just be a case of them being in possession of the shirt and not wanting to upset the winning apple cart. You also wrote a long epistle on why players like Mikel should be kept in our squad eternally as substitutes. Whilst we were wasting years on Mikel, the likes of Chalobah were being chased away all over the place and being disrespected by loan clubs. Two sides of the same coin. Mikels presence was hindering Chalobahs progress rather than freeing him up to go develop on loan. . . while simultaneously being uber useless for Chelsea when called upon just like Rahman. I'm a firm believer in: once a young player is good enough, open up a substitute spot for him. There is a reason why Chelsea have not developed youngsters since Terry and that's because we send our youngsters away, denying them the opportunity to take advantage of injuries to first team players. Most young players get their first opportunities from injuries to first team players! If Hector Bellerin was away on loan when Debuchy got injured, Arsenal would probably have a different right back now. If Rashford was away on loan when Rooney got injured, same story. If Moses was away on loan when Conte was looking for a RWB, there would be no Victor Moses. Same goes for almost every young player that has established themselves in football. Instead at Chelsea, we stock and keep dross for years like Mikel, Zhirkov, Ferreira and co, denying youngsters the lucky break that most other youngsters use to kick off their careers. Once a young player is one injury away from a first team shirt, the club NEEDS that player and should be kept, not keeping wastemen in the squad like Baba Rahman and Mikel who can't even do a basic job when injuries put them in the position a youngster could have been in. I don't see Spurs buying squad filler like Mikel to free up Harry Winks to go away and develop. The flip side of waiting until a young player establishes himself as a superstar on loan before you give him a chance is that you can't just call him back and give him squad position, expecting him to wait his turn like any regular youngster - something you should have done two years ago. Then you get the Kevin De-Bruyne effect where their patience is shorter because they are already established stars. How can you expect someone who just won YPOTY in Bundesliga to come and be waiting for injuries before he gets a chance to play. Nah dummies, you shoulda done that two years ago before he established himself on loan. Ake is almost at that stage now where his patience would be shorter than it was in the summer. This is a two-year proven, £18m rated EPL player who could easily interest clubs of the calibre of Liverpool. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 1:02am On Mar 12, 2017 |
Nihilist:why don't you go and check the post i quoted and if this your post is making sense. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 1:04am On Mar 12, 2017 |
Ibime: As a left Back, Baba Rahman us better than Ake. Rahman was an immediate starter at Schalke until Afcon injury. Ake did not see shirt at Bournemouth till much later on in the season and at centre back. Schalke to Bournemouth are not mates in football. Ake is back now and is not even making the bench. So you can't compare him to Chalobah who us actually making the bench and getting some league minutes. I said then that Ale was not ready. He's been called back and is not making the squad. What point are you even trying to make sef? How is Ake currently different to Ola Aina or Kennedy? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 1:08am On Mar 12, 2017 |
Greatihex: Ok. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:15am On Mar 12, 2017 |
Nihilist: Baba Rahman was no starting player for Schalke. How can someone who started just 44% of Schalke league games be described as a starting player? If you insist on forming strong-headed with your inane Baba Wasteman better than Ake argument, we will use that same head to open coconut. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 1:26am On Mar 12, 2017 |
Ibime: Baba Rahman plays more games for Schalke than Ake did for Bournemouth. Out of 16 games, He started 7, came of the bench 6 times and only missed 3 games. He also started 4 out 6 European games for them. Started 1 out of 2 cup games. So he started 12 out 24 games. And played in total, 21 of those 24 games. You're the accountant So you do the maths. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:36am On Mar 12, 2017 |
Nihilist: Forget European games, that is Europa league where teams send their substitutes to play. In the league, Rahman started 7 out of 16 in a team battling relegation. And by that I mean start and stop ie start one game, bench next game. Ake on the other hand didn't start for Bournemouth till October. Of course, I told you in summer that the major drawback of loan system is the politics of teams prioritising their own assets over loan signings who are another man's asset. However a candle cannot be hidden under a bed. From the moment Ake started till he left, he was their best player, undroppable, unlike stop-start Baba Rahman, and they returned with a club record £18m bid for him in January. I am warning you now to cease and desist from Baba Rahman vs Ake argument immediately, because this is what we will use to break your head in future. When we start comparing a top Dutch International to a washed up Charlie at Sivasspor 5 years from now, this could be a gaffe as monumental as those who compared Joe Cole to Schweinsteiger in 2009, or those who compared Oscar to DeBruyne in 2013. I dey warn you o. Please don't do it. 7 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 1:51am On Mar 12, 2017 |
Ibime: Stop lying. Go and check the team sheets for all Schalke's Europa games and see if it was the 'reserves' as you describe it. Ale played only 12 games for Bournemouth who are nobodies in football. Rahman managed 21 games for Schalke who are European regulars. Take your L. How can Ale even be Bournemouth's best player? Another lie. Harry Arter and Jack Wilshere were the Bournemouth players of the month for October, November and December respectively. Yes, Wilshere the loan player won it twice in a row - no politics. Fact remains that Rahman was a regular starter and established squad member of a European regular. Nothing like politics holding him back in the bundesliga.The rest of what you said is irrelevant. Ake is back home now and isn't even making the bench, with only one left footed defender in the 1st team to actually compete with. He is not ready. That is all. Good night. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:04am On Mar 12, 2017 |
Nihilist: Hahahahaha. I can't believe you are talking about the L in relation to Ake and Rahman. Nigga the L you are holding on this matter has travelled abroad and come back with PHD. You told us Rahman was better than Ake. Conte literally chased Rahman out the club with koboko like Cherubim and Seraphim exorcist. Chelsea had no left back when Rahman was chased. In other words, Conte said "having no leftback is better than having you". Then the same Conte went and begged Ake to return, then rejected £18m offer for him ontop. Not only that but Ake was given Rahman shirt number with the indication from the club that Rahmans Chelsea career is over. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/578874/Baba-Rahman-Chelsea-transfer-news-shirt-number-Nathan-Ake Ake literally took Rahman spot, took his shirt number and kicked him out the club forever. No greater L has been given since Jacob stole Esau's birthright. One L is not enough for this Rahman vs Ake debate. Nihilist, you better hold two Ls like LL Cool Js wife in za oza room. 13 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 2:25am On Mar 12, 2017 |
Ibime: Rahman is away in Germany, On Loan, and injured. What does he need the shirt for anyway? Did you really need to type 8 paragraphs simply to make the point that a player who is not playing is wearing the shirt of another player who is also not playing? Take an L for being up so late, another L for ineffective use of Forum Space, and one more L for wasting my time. I'm not sure what you want to do with all these Ls you're accumulating -You could move to Mexico and start selling them there. Call yourself L Chapo. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:40am On Mar 12, 2017 |
Nihilist: There is no English that can wriggle out of facts. First Ake was sent away before Conte arrived at the club. Those of us in the know argued that Conte would have chosen Ake over Rahman. You argued till you were blue in the face that Rahmans was better. 5 months later, Rahman was rejected and Ake was chosen and even took Rahmans shirt number. End of discussion. QED. La ilaha illa-llah, Muhammadu-rasulu-llah Ašhadu an la ilaha illa-llah. Subhana-llahi, wa-l-hamdu li-llahi, wa la ilaha illa-llahu, wa-llahu akbar. Wa la hawla wa la quwwata illa bi-llahi-l-aliyyi-l-azeem La ilaha illa-llahu wahdahu la šharika lahu lahu-l-mulku wa lahu-l-hamdu yuhyi wa yumitu biyadihi-l-khayr, wa huwa ala kulli šhayin qadir I'm not reciting Kalimahs nigga, I'm counting your Ls. . 17 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 2:51am On Mar 12, 2017 |
Ibime:I'm not surprised that you know a prayer to Ls. You've accumulated so many Ls tonight, you've literally become a deity, the God of Ls...the L-ohim 18 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:56am On Mar 12, 2017 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:14am On Mar 12, 2017 |
bigkesh: How is Ribery driving Bayern this season? If we list the important players to Bayern attack Ribery wont make top 3. But being CHelsea fans misyarns are allowed |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by randomperson: 5:51am On Mar 12, 2017 |
Chelseafan1:Hazard can play all the attacking positions but will he play the 10 position as well as he plays the left wing? Why buy hazard to play as a central attacking midfielder when you can buy an actual attacking midfielder like de bruyne, or silva. In fact Madrid even have James and Isco. So why buy hazard whose passing range is not even that impressive. You will need to break the bank to get any very good player currently... Pogba went for about a hundred million. So why break the bank for someone who is not better than your first choice attackers? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 5:54am On Mar 12, 2017 |
Nihilist:Football is not lawn tennis, this people won't just get it. So because Lukaku's team is not in top three in epl table he's below Kane huh. Na wa for people. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 5:59am On Mar 12, 2017 |
randomperson: You know what I have forgotten the basis of this argument, u took too long to reply. Have a good day. All I know is that, Madrid and Barca are greater than Chelsea and when Hazard chose Chelsea, no one expected to sign him from a club he just joined as the star man. Your excuse that if he was good enuf, he would have been signed, does not hold water. And yes, it is very easy to win the UCL with Barca/Madrid than it is with Chelsea or any other club in the world. Madrid has 10, Chelsea just won 1, the one they even struggled to win all these years when Madrid is on course to win the 11th. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Chelseafan1: 6:03am On Mar 12, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Is that why you ran away from telling us why Suarez couldn't win a major trophy for Pool but went on to win ucl, Laliga with Barca and still counting. Is dt why you couldn't tell us why Pep couldn't win the UCL in 3 years for a Bayern team that just won b4 he came. Is dt why you couldn't tell us why Robben in a Mourinho team that was arguably better than this Conte team couldn't win just a UCL for Chelsea but several years later and even last week was still Bayern's best player against Arsenal but just one UCL, he couldn't win for Chelsea. I ask you again, after Hazard had scored against PSG that night, what else do you want him to do, to go defend or Keep, was he the only attacker in front who was meant to score? 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamrosheed: 7:40am On Mar 12, 2017 |
Chelseafan1:Madrid has 11 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 7:56am On Mar 12, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Robben? ? At least you didn't deny Why top 3?? Costa and Lewy are playing amazingly well this season, make the list 4 and he will be the 4th.. ..For an injury prone old man under Pep, not bad at all |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 8:00am On Mar 12, 2017 |
First lalaboi vs bigkesh creating new ways of using Ls. Now Na ibime vs Nihilist taking the Ls into another level. I salute all the able bodied soldiers in the house o!!!! I recognize una creativity in using L..... 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 9:44am On Mar 12, 2017 |
Hehehe. The L Page. Ibime, you don mara. Nihilist sef dey craze L Ohim. 4 Likes 1 Share |
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