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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by Codes151(m): 12:28pm On Mar 13, 2017
I wonder if sth dey to clear!! Why den no call them women at ones why them add trans

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by repogirl(f): 12:30pm On Mar 13, 2017
This woman is undeniably brilliant and she is slowly winning me over, I must confess. I love her ability to get her points across aptly and truly.
She is very wise.

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by favelli(m): 12:30pm On Mar 13, 2017
Quite lengthy though
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by babyfaceafrica: 12:36pm On Mar 13, 2017
Brilliant but talks too much..she is gradually become the female Fayose....having an idea on everything......na she sabi...didn't she do summary in class.. Writing an epistle like this!!!

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by Nobody: 12:40pm On Mar 13, 2017
how can diffrenciate a transgender female frm a genetic female? embarassed
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by Yarduni: 12:44pm On Mar 13, 2017
It's not everything that goes to front-page. Nigerians don't give a damn about trans or cisgender, busybody mods
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by InvertedHammer: 12:50pm On Mar 13, 2017
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Chimamanda is being plain silly.
She is a good writer and has no authority in the subjects she delves into. In each interview, she gets led into landmine topics and on every occasion, she erroneously believes that her opinion matters. Sooner than later, the same folks supporting her will burn her books in protest per some careless statements. Oyibo folks are not as stupid as she thinks.

What one says can be used against him/her does not only apply in a court of law. She thinks she is invicible.
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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by Timelezz: 12:58pm On Mar 13, 2017
The confused woman acknowledges the difference between trans woman and born women but refuses to acknowledge the difference between male and female.

Turborised mumu!

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by Karlman: 1:02pm On Mar 13, 2017
if u knw u didnt read the whole piece click like and if u read it all share
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by abdulaz: 1:04pm On Mar 13, 2017
amiibaby:
Indeed trans gender are women women

Point of correction, trangenders are women men.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by porozhniy(m): 1:04pm On Mar 13, 2017
So they no longer females cos they weren't born female?
But I thought gender was only a social construct? How come there's a difference between trans women & women born women?

I'm still waiting for my male privileges to kick in ooo.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by azarenka: 1:06pm On Mar 13, 2017
oluxy:
She is still single?

If one should marry this woman,
U need to be extremely patience because, someday she'd come out wide that she is wide read and smart than the husband.

She is happily married with a child.But the truth is, she is wide read and smarter than you.Else,your comment wouldn't have been this dumb.

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by PrettyGaby(f): 1:11pm On Mar 13, 2017
oluxy:
She is still single?

If one should marry this woman,
U need to be extremely patience because, someday she'd come out wide that she is wide read and smart than the husband.

She is not single o

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by irynterri(f): 1:28pm On Mar 13, 2017
oluxy:
She is still single?

If one should marry this woman,
U need to be extremely patience because, someday she'd come out wide that she is wide read and smart than the husband.

she is married and blessed with a cute baby girl

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by sokarsenal(m): 1:30pm On Mar 13, 2017
oluxy:
She is still single?

If one should marry this woman,
U need to be extremely patience because, someday she'd come out wide that she is wide read and smart than the husband.


she is not single....she has been married for over 7 years without any family issues in the media...do your research before showing ignorance......after all it only takes less than the time you used to type this

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by sokarsenal(m): 1:34pm On Mar 13, 2017
theSpark:
Who cares

Trans are the least of my concerns so far as they stay out of Nigeria. As for Ms Adichie, her views are here and I give no single f about them.

do you actually know the "kind of tranny" she was referring to.,.......there are actual humans born with male reproductive organs (penis), hence tagged as male at birth, who start developing breasts during puberty......


but transexuals are as a result of transplant
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by gozie85(m): 1:34pm On Mar 13, 2017
she was born intelligent but education ruin her.talking from both side of her mouth
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by CellTabRepairs: 1:37pm On Mar 13, 2017
Some of your positions on this gender issue is at best nauseating. You talk about men enjoying privileges because they are men. Because you are women, don't you enjoy certain privileges ? I mean this blackmail against men to provide easy latitude for women to thrive, to exhale is chopping off men' s rights and turning some to effeminates just because they want to be accepted as civilized. Who speaks for the boy child?

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by khalids: 1:38pm On Mar 13, 2017
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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by Onuokwu: 1:39pm On Mar 13, 2017
JamieBlog:

Acclaimed Nigerian writer Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie, over the weekend found herself at the centre of a controversy over gender identity after the comments she made about transgender women during an interview with the U.K Channels 4 while promoting her new book, Dear Ijeawele.

"When people talk about, 'Are trans women women?' my feeling is trans women are trans women" the author said.

Taking to her official Facebook page earlier today, Ms Adichie said her intention was a good one and while we can oppose violence against trans women, difference should also be acknowledged. Read after the cut..


CLARIFYING
Because I have been the subject of much hostility for standing up for LGBTQ rights in Nigeria, I found myself being very defensive at being labeled 'trans phobic.' My first thought was – how could anyone think that?
I didn't like that version of myself. It felt like a white person saying 'I'm not racist, I supported civil rights.'
Because the truth is that I do think one can be trans phobic while generally supporting LGBTQ rights.
And so I want to put my defensiveness aside and clarify my thoughts. To make sure that I am fully understood.

I said, in an interview, that trans women are trans women, that they are people who, having been born male, benefited from the privileges that the world affords men, and that we should not say that the experience of women born female is the same as the experience of trans women.
This upset many people, and I consider their concerns to be valid. I realize that I occupy this strange position of being a ‘voice’ for gender rights and so there is an automatic import to my words.

I think the impulse to say that trans women are women just like women born female are women comes from a need to make trans issues mainstream. Because by making them mainstream, we might reduce the many oppressions they experience.
But it feels disingenuous to me. The intent is a good one but the strategy feels untrue. Diversity does not have to mean division.
Because we can oppose violence against trans women while also acknowledging differences. Because we should be able to acknowledge differences while also being supportive. Because we do not have to insist, in the name of being supportive, that everything is the same. Because we run the risk of reducing gender to a single, essentialist thing.

Perhaps I should have said trans women are trans women and cis women are cis women and all are women. Except that 'cis' is not an organic part of my vocabulary. And would probably not be understood by a majority of people. Because saying ‘trans’ and ‘cis’ acknowledges that there is a distinction between women born female and women who transition, without elevating one or the other, which was my point.
I have and will continue to stand up for the rights of transgender people. Not merely because of the violence they experience but because they are equal human beings deserving to be what they are.

I see how my saying that we should not conflate the gender experiences of trans women with that of women born female could appear as if I was suggesting that one experience is more important than the other. Or that the experiences of trans women are less valid than those of women born female. I do not think so at all – I know that trans women can be vulnerable in ways that women born female are not. This, again, is a reason to not deny the differences.
Why does this even matter?
Because at issue is gender.

Gender is a problem not because of how we look or how we identify or how we feel but because of how the world treats us.
Girls are socialized in ways that are harmful to their sense of self – to reduce themselves, to cater to the egos of men, to think of their bodies as repositories of shame. As adult women, many struggle to overcome, to unlearn, much of that social conditioning.
A trans woman is a person born male and a person who, before transitioning, was treated as male by the world. Which means that they experienced the privileges that the world accords men. This does not dismiss the pain of gender confusion or the difficult complexities of how they felt living in bodies not their own.

Because the truth about societal privilege is that it isn't about how you feel. (Anti-racist white people still benefit from race privilege in the United States). It is about how the world treats you, about the subtle and not so subtle things that you internalize and absorb.
This is not to say that trans women did not undergo difficulties as boys. But they did not undergo those particular difficulties specific to being born female, and this matters because those experiences shape how adult women born female interact with the world.
And because to be human is to be a complex amalgam of your experiences, it is disingenuous to say that their being born male has no effect on their experience of gender as trans women.

Of course there are individual differences. But there are always individual differences. We speak of ‘women’s issues’ knowing that while there are individual differences, the truth of human history is that women as a group have been treated as subordinate to men. And we speak of male privilege acknowledging that individual men differ but that men as a group are nevertheless accorded privileges by the world.

I think of feminism as Feminisms. Race and class shape our experience of gender. Sexuality shapes our experience of gender. And so when I say that I think trans women are trans women, it is not to diminish or exclude trans women but to say that we cannot insist – no matter how good our intentions – that they are the same as women born female.
Nor do I think that we need to insist that both are the same.
To acknowledge different experiences is to start to move towards more fluid – and therefore more honest and true to the real world – conceptions of gender.

http://www.jamienaija.com/2017/03/chimamanda-adichie-clarifies-her.html


Ayam not understanding all this...proposition and response. Walahi!!!
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by sokarsenal(m): 1:39pm On Mar 13, 2017
lefulefu:
how can diffrenciate a transgender female frm a genetic female? embarassed

simple.........a "natural" transgender was born male because of the presence of the male reproductive organ at birth...and as adichie mentioned....given all the privileges of a boy child when growing up.....until puberty when the breasts comes out..,..........,..now I am referring to the "natural" transgender and not the transexuals like the "Jenners of this world".....those I struggle to understand
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by Nobody: 1:45pm On Mar 13, 2017
oluxy:
She is still single?

If one should marry this woman,
U need to be extremely patience because, someday she'd come out wide that she is wide read and smart than the husband.


She's married Nd that with a child and I think you are a bit insecure or probably very insecure

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by InHim4Him(m): 1:46pm On Mar 13, 2017
All this to defend a position that she knows clearly does not exist. If she thinks being transwhatever is okay and worth fighting for why struggle to explain anything? Whoever struggles to explain that there is a difference between night and day? Are they not all supposed to be part of the day? Women are women any day, any time and deserve the honour, dignity and protection imposed on them by nature. Any other explanation is only a figment of demented imagination.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by SACI: 2:22pm On Mar 13, 2017
oluxy:
She is still single?

If one should marry this woman,
U need to be extremely patience because, someday she'd come out wide that she is wide read and smart than the husband.

If she come out wide read and smart that's 'coz she is..
Ur brain is soo clogged that u just insinuated that a woman cannot b more wide read and smart than a man

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by Nobody: 2:25pm On Mar 13, 2017
sokarsenal:


simple.........a "natural" transgender was born male because of the presence of the male reproductive organ at birth...and as adichie mentioned....given all the privileges of a boy child when growing up.....until puberty when the breasts comes out..,..........,..now I am referring to the "natural" transgender and not the transexuals like the "Jenners of this world".....those I struggle to understand
no i am talking about the jenners type of transgender grin.the other day i saw a programe on IDx crime channel about a guy who murdered his wife and got married a transgender.When police arrested him and told him the news that his girlfriend was actually a man while in mexico before he did his sex change and came to the US.The suspect was dumbfounded and insisted he had been hitting that pu..sy for years.so u see its quite difficult to know them ooo not until dem tell u with their own mouth cheesy.though someone told me dat transgender dont menstrate.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by Jaquar456: 2:39pm On Mar 13, 2017
What an intelligent and constructive response. Chimamanda@ always making us proud to be African.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by sokarsenal(m): 2:39pm On Mar 13, 2017
true.....no physical difference between a woman and a transexual......but I would like to think adichie was referring to the transgender, the natural ones,imagine being taken as a man by ur friends and family until 11, 12, 13 when confusion sets in
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by sabi99(m): 2:43pm On Mar 13, 2017
I u really read this epistle till d end then u can be able to read pples future.
Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by Butterworth: 2:57pm On Mar 13, 2017
LagosismyHome:
She a good writer but talks WAY too much and likes to stay in the press....... how many other writers do u see issuing statements up and down every week

This week is tranwomen ....oya next week biko come quick because Chimamanda is waiting to issue another topic


Don't just read and make comments.

Try to understand what you read before commenting, it will save you from so much shame

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Re: Chimamanda Adichie Clarifies Her Statement About Trans Women. by Dareomo(m): 2:57pm On Mar 13, 2017
When one is misquoted, redress is inevitable.

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