fratermathy:


You cannot distort my words and get away with it. I will root out everything you and I said now.

This is what I said



https://www.nairaland.com/3678183/why-believe-stephanie-otobo-lying/7#54622357


So why did you just distort my assertion? What is your bearing?


A liar like Su-LAIR-man..

Here is your statement accusing apostle suleman of not taking stephenie Otobo to court. You are a liar.

fratermathy:



There is no issue here. Simply post the video or statement here so that I can respond to it after seeing it myself. I'm not so deluded as to say something on what I have not seen or confirmed myself.

I watched all her videos and read her statements and never did I come across one where she said there was an introduction. If so, kindly present it. I only heard the introduction issue from Suleiman Media Centre as a concoction of his perverse imagination. What she said was that he proposed to marry her.

She has gone to court already. Has Suleiman done the same? Why is he afraid of charging her with defamation and libel?

dragonking3:
I have provided proof already.

Here is the lawyer stating clearly that apostle suleman took them to court for blackmail. If you don't know Otobo also confirm that she was sued and taken to court for blackmail. I have provided you the video.. It is the second one on this post.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T38IqbJe4ws


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3l9PwPvL-4

You just posted arbitrary videos with no bearing to the issue at hand. You are trying to deflect issues and I will expose you here and now.

Was it not you that lied again that she was never sued until I countered you?

Honestly,is it that you guys are illiterates and can't differentiate between apostle suleman and Daniella? Daniella is the one sueing for defamation of character not apostle suleman. And if you don't know he took her to court that's how things are done. I have provided the video to prove this.

https://www.nairaland.com/3678183/why-believe-stephanie-otobo-lying/7#54625854

I never said Otobo wasn't sued whatsoever. I said she wasn't sued for defamation and libel. Here are my words:

The issue is out and everyone has been speaking on it. The claims have been made and Suleiman HAS NOT SUED Otobo for libel and defamation, neither has Okeke done so. Need I remind you that his name was found in association with Okeke's car. He cannot be proven innocent and presumed so until he sues and argues his case. In the absence of such, it is safe to assume his complicity (I won't go so far to say guilt). He has shined that congo! Take it or leave it.

https://www.nairaland.com/post/54622357

Why are you twisting facts and attempting to digress the issue at hand? What is your aim here?

Mind you, Otobo was arrested primarily for terrorism and Su-LAIR-man never provided evidence. Infact, here is how it was reported:

She was released alongside Wisdom Godstime, a Canadian resident with whom she was detained after being accused of “terrorism.”

Mr. Suleiman conspired with police officers to have Ms. Otobo and Mr. Godstime remanded in prison, but the judge denied the application for lacking substantial evidence warranting their detention.

http://saharareporters.com/2017/03/09/stephanie-otobo-released-custody

fratermathy:


Again, you are trying to distort my opinion and I will expose you like your god, Su-LAIR-man, now:



https://www.nairaland.com/3678183/why-believe-stephanie-otobo-lying/7#54625854

This shows that you are a liar. You even changed this story later on and said Daniella never sued.

Did you ever agree that the Apostle Sued?


I will expose you and your cronies. Keep coming. I'm enjoying myself.

i thought nairaland post fake news, why are you sharing that link now dat the news is fake?

dragonking3:
Here is your statement accusing apostle suleman of not taking stephenie Otobo to court. You are a liar.

And tell me, and everyone else here, exactly how this

She has gone to court already. Has Suleiman done the same? Why is he afraid of charging her with defamation and libel?

is different from this:

The claims have been made and Suleiman HAS NOT SUED Otobo for libel and defamation, neither has Okeke done so

These are my words and they are easily accessible. Su-LAIR-man has never sued Otobo for libel and defamation. Otobo has gone to court against Sulaiman, that stands. But has Su-LAIR-man gone to court to challenge Otobo's revelations about him? Has he charged her and Sahara Reporters for that matter for defamation, libel and anything else?

He did charge her for TERRORISM before she started her revelations but that wasn't the question now, was it?


You are making a mockery of yourself here man.

silvastone:
i thought nairaland post fake news, why are you sharing that link now dat the news is fake?

Nairaland doesn't post news mister man. People post stories and news on Nairaland and a moderator chooses whether or not to take them to the frontpage. How can you not even know how Nairaland works?

Secondly, that link was to MY COMMENT on this issue and it was a request to your ilk's attempt to twist facts.

bush woman

better go and freshen up, then try again.

you have the complexion. you may have the mammary glands, we dont know if you have the erm backside , but you clearly havent got the packaging. package yourself - get a tattoo, coloured braids, bad gal swag, then hit up bros sule on the down low. play your game right and you may soon be instagrammig with a lexus suv. thank me later

fratermathy:


You just posted arbitrary videos with no bearing to the issue at hand. You are trying to deflect issues and I will expose you here and now.

Was it not you that lied again that she was never sued until I countered you?

https://www.nairaland.com/3678183/why-believe-stephanie-otobo-lying/7#54625854

I never said Otobo wasn't sued whatsoever. I said she wasn't sued for defamation and libel. Here are my words:

https://www.nairaland.com/post/54622357

Why are you twisting facts and attempting to digress the issue at hand? What is your aim here?

Mind you, Otobo was arrested primarily for terrorism and Su-LAIR-man never provided evidence. Infact, here is how it was reported:



http://saharareporters.com/2017/03/09/stephanie-otobo-released-custody

I will continue to show everyone her how uneducated your are.

Now I provided a video evidence which you want to disapprove but want me to accept your own from a blogging website? Which is more credible as an evidence? This is pitiful.

As for you saying that you never said Otobo wasn't sue but now you are saying that she wasn't sued for defamation of character. Why on earth will you ask this kind of ridiculous question if you knew that Otobo was sued in the first place? If you really knew that she was sued you won't even raise such feeble question. Why accuse apostle suleman or not sueing for defamation of character? Are you the one who will dictate the type of law suit to file? Please answer the question.

fratermathy:


And tell me, and everyone else here, exactly how this


is different from this:



These are my words and they are easily accessible. Su-LAIR-man has never sued Otobo for libel and defamation. Otobo has gone to court against Sulaiman, that stands. But has Su-LAIR-man gone to court to challenge Otobo's revelations about him? Has he charged her and Sahara Reporters for that matter for defamation, libel and anything else?

He did charge her for TERRORISM before she started her revelations but that wasn't the question now, was it?


You are making a mockery of yourself here man.

One question. Why are you asking for suleman to sue for defamation of character if you already know that he has sued and taken her to court initially on the ground of blackmail and terrorism? I am waiting for this answer

dragonking3:
I will continue to show everyone her how uneducated your are.

Now I provided a video evidence which you want to disapprove but want me to accept your own from a blogging website? Which is more credible as an evidence? This is pitiful.

As for you saying that you never said Otobo wasn't sue but now you are saying that she wasn't sued for defamation of character. Why on earth will you ask this kind of ridiculous question if you knew that Otobo was sued in the first place? If you really knew that she was sued you won't even raise such feeble question. Why accuse apostle suleman or not sueing for defamation of character? Are you the one who will dictate the type of law suit to file? Please answer the question.

I quoted exactly what I said and here you are twisting it to suit your ends. How amateurish of you. I said he never sued her for libel and defamation after she made her revelations. You even helped me quote my statement. Why should you misinterpret my statement in the first place?

You said she was sued, after initially LYING that she wasn't. Then you provided a video of her asserting that she was sued for terrorism and blackmail, even before she made her revelations. How is the video remotely related to my claims? Do you create issues in your mind and solve them yourself? I AM NOT SURPRISED if you do.

Then I posted a link to a site where Otobo revealed that she sued Suleiman for breach of contract and to prove that she wasn't sued for libel and defamation.

How then does your video contradict my claim oh ye sheeple?

dragonking3:
One question. Why are you asking for suleman to sue for defamation of character if you already know that he has sued and taken her to court initially on the ground of blackmail and terrorism? I am waiting for this answer

If Suleman thinks himself innocent of the charges then he should, of necessity, sue the defamer! Failure to do so justifies the accuser's revelations against him and because the case will never go to court, no one will ever find out the truth to know his degree of complicity in the issue.

That he sued her for TERRORISM and BLACKMAIL (in relation to 500million naira request and not her revelations, take note), does not translate into a case of libel and defamation. Each has a different case. Just like it behoves Otobo to prove her case, so also is it to Suleiman to prove his case on her. How well has he done that oh ye sheeple?

fratermathy:


I quoted exactly what I said and here you are twisting it to suit your ends. How amateurish of you. I said he never sued her for libel and defamation after she made her revelations. You even helped me quote my statement. Why should you misinterpret my statement in the first place?

[b]You said she was sued, after initially LYING that she wasn't. Then you provided a video of her asserting that she was sued for terrorism and blackmail, even before she made her revelations[/b]How is the video remotely related to my claims? Do you create issues in your mind and solve them yourself? I AM NOT SURPRISED if you do.

Then I posted a link to a site where Otobo revealed that she sued Suleiman for breach of contract and to prove that she wasn't sued for libel and defamation.

How then does your video contradict my claim oh ye sheeple?

This is another question I know you can never answer. I am glad everyone is witnessing this and can see the liar that you are. This is like the 3rd time I am asking you to provide proof of me stating so. You claimed I said Stephenie Otobo wasn't sued according to the bolded. Please provide my post here saying such for everyone to see and for me to defend.

Finally you claimed that Otobo sued suleman by providing a blog website and I countered it by providing a video evidence of the lawyer saying otherwise meaning that the case was never taken to court. QED

PS: I thought the general claim was that Otobo wanted apostle suleman to admit before taking him to court. Shior

whoisuche:


I pity you honestly. I don't comment any how, rather I advice, but except you repent you will continue to wallow in bondage. May God help you

You realize this is as compelling to us as the argument "you're not going to Valhalla unless you start working on your battleaxe skills" is to you, right?

fratermathy:


If Suleman thinks himself innocent of the charges then he should, of necessity, sue the defamer! Failure to do so justifies the accuser's revelations against him and because the case will never go to court, no one will ever find out the truth to know his degree of complicity in the issue.

That he sued her for TERRORISM and BLACKMAIL (in relation to 500million naira request and not her revelations, take note), does not translate into a case of libel and defamation. Each has a different case. Just like it behoves Otobo to prove her case, so also is it to Suleiman to prove his case on her. How well has he done that oh ye sheeple?

Hehe don't deflect from the question. Are you in the position to tell apostle suleman what type of court case to sue Otobo? Yes or no? That's what we want.. Simple answer.

dragonking3:
This is another question I know you can never answer. I am glad everyone is witnessing this and can see the liar that you are. This is like the 3rd time I am asking you to provide proof of me stating so. You claimed I said Stephenie Otobo wasn't sued according to the bolded. Please provide my post here saying such for everyone to see and for me to defend.

Finally you claimed that Otobo sued suleman by providing a blog website and I countered it by providing a video evidence of the lawyer saying otherwise meaning that the case was never taken to court. QED

PS: I thought the general claim was that Otobo wanted apostle suleman to admit before taking him to court. Shior

I haven provided evidence of your statements but I will indulge you again for the fun of showing you as a serial liar like your god, Su-LAIR-man:

Honestly,is it that you guys are illiterates and can't differentiate between apostle suleman and Daniella? Daniella is the one sueing for defamation of character not apostle suleman. And if you don't know he took her to court that's how things are done. I have provided the video to prove this.

https://www.nairaland.com/3678183/why-believe-stephanie-otobo-lying/7#54625854

Your words, not mine.

Now you have added an addendum that YOU THOUGHT the general claim was that Otobo wanted Suleiman to admit before taking to court. Whose general claim is that? I can't recall anyone ever saying that.

Otobo sued Suleiman for breach of marriage contract. I asked why Suleiman never sued her for the libellous comments made against him and you came up with a video with no bearing on the matter. Like for real? El Rufai's tweets are tenable in court but blogs are not? Really?

Since we are on the issue of videos as proof, why dont you take your time and watch this one:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPonB0JyBb0

dragonking3:
Hehe don't deflect from the question. Are you in the position to tell apostle suleman what type of court case to sue Otobo? Yes or no? That's what we want.. Simple answer.

This was never a case of the type of court case or not and so don't use the lexicon of deflection which I introduced to this thread to justify your erratic argumentative skills which comprise lies, misinterpretations, double standards, and many more.

So who gave you the right to speak for Suleiman if anyone but him doesn't have the right to speak on the case?

fratermathy:


This was never a case of the type of court case or not and so don't use the lexicon of deflection which I introduced to this thread to justify your erratic argumentative skills which comprise lies, misinterpretations, double standards, and many more.

So who gave you the right to speak for Suleiman if anyone but him doesn't have the right to speak on the case?

Everyone can now see how shallow minded you are. You can't even answer the question.

Now you claim that I am using it as a deflection meanwhile you were accusing the pastor of not filing for defamation of character. How is deflecting and lying now? Everyone is watching.

dragonking3:
Everyone can now see how shallow minded you are. You can't even answer the question.

Now you claim that I am using it as a deflection meanwhile you were accusing the pastor of not filing for defamation of character. How is deflecting and lying now? Everyone is watching.

I now understand the personality of Suleiman now through you. You never finish a case before moving on to the next. You claim not to support the man yet do the exact opposite for more than 24 hours. A fact that has been sealed with proof from previous chats is still used as an arguing chip for you.


You have nothing more to say. It is not in your place to know what everyone is seeing. The chat history is within public view and the issue is still at its infancy. It will surely develop and you and your god of men will be shamed at the end.

I will humour you from now on with your own logic. You no longer deserve my higher sense of reasoning!

fratermathy:


I now understand the personality of Suleiman now through you. You never finish a case before moving on to the next. You claim not to support the man yet do the exact opposite for more than 24 hours. A fact that has been sealed with proof from previous chats is still used as an arguing chip for you.


You have nothing more to say. It is not in your place to know what everyone is seeing. The chat history is within public view and the issue is still at its infancy. It will surely develop and you and your god of men will be shamed at the end.

I will humour you from now on with your own logic. You no longer deserve my higher sense of reasoning!

You are a clown and it is evident that you can't provide proof just like Otobo. You can't answer a simple yes or no question too. Now I have debunked everything you said and even shown everyone here plus your followers for the liar and fraud that you are. Twisting your words and changing grounds. Lol.

dragonking3:
You are a clown and it is evident that you can't provide proof just like Otobo. You can't answer a simple yes or no question too. Now I have debunked everything you said and even shown everyone here plus your followers for the liar and fraud that you are. Twisting your words and changing grounds. Lol.

Yes. You debunked everything I said. Truthfully you did. It is glaring. Infact, you have debunked and wished away Otobo, Okeke and the scandal.

You have debunked and wished away my phantom followers on this thread.

Truly, you have twisted my words and changed grounds. It was very glaring and obvious.

All these to prove that one Edo pastor is infallible.

Ogbeni Oruese!

fratermathy:


Yes. You debunked everything I said. Truthfully you did. It is glaring. Infact, you have debunked and wished away Otobo, Okeke and the scandal.

You have debunked and wished away my phantom followers on this thread.

Truly, you have twisted my words and changed grounds. It was very glaring and obvious.

All these to prove that one Edo pastor is infallible.

Ogbeni Oruese!

Yes I did. You provided a blog website I provided the actual video saying otherwise. You accused me of lying without providing proof. I accused you of lying and provided proof.
You twisted and re-directed my question and I answered you. I asked you several questions but you are yet to answer just one.

So yes, I debunked everything you said. QED

dragonking3:
Yes I did. You provided a blog website I provided the actual video saying otherwise. You accused me of lying without providing proof. I accused you of lying and provided proof.
You twisted and re-directed my question and I answered you. I asked you several questions but you are yet to answer just one.

So yes, I debunked everything you said. QED

You are not the judge in this debacle. No one made you judge. You have made your point and I have made mine. It is counterproductive for me to keep quoting your previous posts and mine to assert how you fell short of words when you started lying on this thread like a good Suleimanic Christian that you are.

If anything, you just proved to me the lengths bigoted Christians will go to protect the infallibility of their human gods!

fratermathy:


You are not the judge in this debacle. No one made you judge. You have made your point and I have made mine. It is counterproductive for me to keep quoting your previous posts and mine to assert how you fell short of words when you started lying on this thread like a good Suleimanic Christian that you are.

If anything, you just proved to me the lengths bigoted Christians will go to protect the infallibility of their human gods!

You have started with your accusations again. Post my lies let people see and me defend. Same can't be said about you though.

If you have a personal vendetta against pastors you should learn to control your emotions.

seyi360:
Even if Apostle Suleiman would have for any reason gone into an extra marital affair, there are more chances he would have done it with someone whose proximity with him generates no suspicion.

The point is , a Pastor is more vulnerable to the ladies that surround him.

From record, Pastors who have either confessed to adultery or accused of adultery , did it with either their Secretary, church member or someone in their entourage.

If the Apostle has maintained a clean slate hitherto with the beautiful women who litter his church in Auchi in their tens of thousands, its difficult to believe that a stripper based at a location 6,618 miles from him would have trapped him so easily in her sex cage.

She even ridiculously claims the Apostle promised her marriage , who does that to a striper? With the numerous responsible, decent and Godly women he has access to.

And the media trial is another glaring reason to see that the said lady is on a destructive mission .

Without any shadow of doubt, this is a robust and tactical assassination attempt of the Apostle's character.

Great men throughout history have had their names soiled in dangerous scandals.

But in the voice of T.D Jakes " this too will pass"

the way u reason is amazin, u ate one of the best species in planet earth. don't mind the gullible ones who obviously are seeing the truth but still refused to acknowledge it

This issue is quite simple to solve. The ball is in the apostles court. All he has to do is provide some documents for verification(passport is enough) or if he is really sure of himself sue all the accusing parties for character defamation and libel. SIMPLE.

Infact by the time he sues them. that is if he does, and he wins the suit. He wouldn't have to collect tithe from his church members for one year.

1bn from keyamo chambers

1bn from otobo

1bn from Sahara

1bn from others

No be small money o. Abeg pastor followers make Una givam clue na

dragonking3:
You have started with your accusations again. Post my lies let people see and me defend. Same can't be said about you though.

If you have a personal vendetta against pastors you should learn to control your emotions.

I have posted them more than thrice and you deflected them by using reverse psychology. I'm just looking at you like....


I have nothing to do with stupid humans who worship pastors and revolve their lives around them.

fratermathy:



I have posted them more than thrice and you deflected them by using reverse psychology. I'm just looking at you like....


I am NOT a CHRISTIAN and have nothing to do with stupid humans who worship pastors and revolve their lives around them.

Where did you post them? Or you want me to expose you again.

Secondly it is now clear your obsession with the pastor and your continuous fantasy to get him jailed. Lol. It can't work.. Sorry.
I believe in the rule of law, Apostle suleman is innocent until proven guilty which Otobo has failed to do.

dragonking3:
Where did you post them? Or you want me to expose you again.

Secondly it is now clear your obsession with the pastor and your continuous fantasy to get him jailed. Lol. It can't work.. Sorry.
I believe in the rule of law, Apostle suleman is innocent until proven guilty which Otobo has failed to do.

Here they are:

1. https://www.nairaland.com/3684215/lady-lays-curse-stephanie-otobo/4#54628731
2. https://www.nairaland.com/3684215/lady-lays-curse-stephanie-otobo/3#54627649
3. https://www.nairaland.com/3678183/why-believe-stephanie-otobo-lying/7#54625854

You need more?

I guess you will ignore this one too and deflect to something else. I expect it! I have zeroed you into the most bestial part of human consciousness and follow you in that light.

I am not obsessed with your god nor do I want him jailed. He should own up to his HUMAN SHORTCOMINGS and stop deceiving youths like you who idle away in their defence.

Whether you agree to it or not, Su-LAIR-man is complicit in this matter and everything shall be revealed in the fullness of time. All we have is time to wait.

SECRET FACTS ABOUT APOSTLE SULEIMAN!

1. Apostle Suleiman was a radical and fiery Islamic fundamentalist until he gave his life to Jesus many years ago. That's why they are ready to do anything to ensure his destruction because according to them he committed an unpardonable religious sacrilege. It is therefore wrong for Christians to abandon him at the mercy of the rampaging jihadists.

2. Apostle Suleiman has survived countless persecutions from these enemies of his ministry in the past. Note that Muslims who convert to Christianity are not lukewarm, they are always fiery and strong Christians, ready to die for Christ. This is why Suleiman boldly staked his life to confront the rampaging Fulani herdsmen and their backers...Click to read more facts of the plots...www.http://moderngist.com/secret-facts-apostle-suleiman

How are we so sure that the forces behind Otobo (Oto bo in Yoruba means the truth in cooking lying for short) are not the ones behind this lady ?

Beware of VIPERS and DEMONS !

seyi360:
Even if Apostle Suleiman would have for any reason gone into an extra marital affair, there are more chances he would have done it with someone whose proximity with him generates no suspicion.

The point is , a Pastor is more vulnerable to the ladies that surround him.

From record, Pastors who have either confessed to adultery or accused of adultery , did it with either their Secretary, church member or someone in their entourage.

If the Apostle has maintained a clean slate hitherto with the beautiful women who litter his church in Auchi in their tens of thousands, its difficult to believe that a stripper based at a location 6,618 miles from him would have trapped him so easily in her sex cage.

She even ridiculously claims the Apostle promised her marriage , who does that to a striper? With the numerous responsible, decent and Godly women he has access to.

And the media trial is another glaring reason to see that the said lady is on a destructive mission .

Without any shadow of doubt, this is a robust and tactical assassination attempt of the Apostle's character.

Great men throughout history have had their names soiled in dangerous scandals.

But in the voice of T.D Jakes " this too will pass"

So man of God are holier than every man am sure you are MMM member.Talk about yourself and not other because human is full of deciet.

seyi360:
Even if Apostle Suleiman would have for any reason gone into an extra marital affair, there are more chances he would have done it with someone whose proximity with him generates no suspicion.

The point is , a Pastor is more vulnerable to the ladies that surround him.

From record, Pastors who have either confessed to adultery or accused of adultery , did it with either their Secretary, church member or someone in their entourage.

If the Apostle has maintained a clean slate hitherto with the beautiful women who litter his church in Auchi in their tens of thousands, its difficult to believe that a stripper based at a location 6,618 miles from him would have trapped him so easily in her sex cage.

She even ridiculously claims the Apostle promised her marriage , who does that to a striper? With the numerous responsible, decent and Godly women he has access to.

And the media trial is another glaring reason to see that the said lady is on a destructive mission .

Without any shadow of doubt, this is a robust and tactical assassination attempt of the Apostle's character.

Great men throughout history have had their names soiled in dangerous scandals.

But in the voice of T.D Jakes " this too will pass"

so you think a woman will just come from no where to accused your pastor. Even your pastor agreed that he gave the girl that amount of money. Your pastor is a love-vendor who go around sleeping with your girls. If Nigeria was a civilized country, he would have been asked to resign for mismanaging church funds and for breaking the trust. Besides why has he not sue girl for deformation of character if the girl was lying like you claimed. Your pastor is guilty as hell and I feel sorry for people like you who worship those so called pastors who use their position to exploit women.

fratermathy:


Here they are:

1. https://www.nairaland.com/3684215/lady-lays-curse-stephanie-otobo/4#54628731
2. https://www.nairaland.com/3684215/lady-lays-curse-stephanie-otobo/3#54627649
3. https://www.nairaland.com/3678183/why-believe-stephanie-otobo-lying/7#54625854

You need more?

I guess you will ignore this one too and deflect to something else. I expect it! I have zeroed you into the most bestial part of human consciousness and follow you in that light.

I am not obsessed with your god nor do I want him jailed. He should own up to his HUMAN SHORTCOMINGS and stop deceiving youths like you who idle away in their defence.

Whether you agree to it or not, Su-LAIR-man is complicit in this matter and everything shall be revealed in the fullness of time. All we have is time to wait.

What is all these? Abeg bring out the post and stop giving our viewers assignment. We are waiting