izzou:
Illiteracy is worrying the sheikh

So people who call stones, knifes,iron, Thunder, water, as their God should be taken to court too?
What about those who don't believe there is God? Who will charge them to court?
He should look for his mates to debate with. Am very sure tb Joshua won't even have his time

This man is a disgrace to Islam

Those who call stones, iron, image, thunder etc... Show me their scriptures

Afterall what is the different between the Christianity and traditional religion = they both worship image

I wonder why some people behave like castrated monkey. It takes only super intelligence to understand the fact that the Christianity is like washipping the dead man on the cross.

abdulkabirtobi:

Oga Pastor what can you say about these verses in your holy book?
Bible says that God is not man
‘God is not a man’ (Numbers 23:19)
‘For I am God, and not man’ (Hosea 11:9)

Jesus is called a man many times in the Bible
‘a man who has told you the truth’ (John 8:40)

‘Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22)

‘He will judge the world in righteousness through a man whom He has appointed’ (Acts 17:31)

Any justification for all these contradictions? I'm more than sure you can not win this argument, your holy book is never perfect and will never be so y are u ranting upandan?

That is why the holy bible is 100% perfect.

Do you really need an explanation for those questions up there?

abdulkabirtobi:

Oga Pastor what can you say about these verses in your holy book?
Bible says that God is not man
‘God is not a man’ (Numbers 23:19)
‘For I am God, and not man’ (Hosea 11:9)

Jesus is called a man many times in the Bible
‘a man who has told you the truth’ (John 8:40)

‘Jesus the Nazarene, a man attested to you by God with miracles and wonders and signs which God performed through Him in your midst, just as you yourselves know.’ (Acts 2:22)

‘He will judge the world in righteousness through a man whom He has appointed’ (Acts 17:31)

Any justification for all these contradictions?

Lol. You do realize Jesus came to earth in Human form right? He didn't come to earth to exhibit His "Goodness" but came to show us how to live as Humans. Prove to us that it is possible to be human and live without sin. And its funny how you cherry pick verses that support your claim without understanding them but neglect the many ones that point to Jesus being God. When Thomas called Him "my Lord and my God", Jesus never rebuked him. Look at John 20:28.
One thing you need to know is that our sin needed to be atoned for and Jesus had to be human to die. God can't die!
Now let me ask you a simple question. Why is it so hard for almighty God to come on earth in human form? Is that something you think God can't do? Then I'm afraid you are limiting God.
Finally, go to the old testament (the turah) and see the vast number prophesies regarding Jesus.

Don't waste your time in court, take him straight to God!

Asidiq23:

Baba, you are not wise, you would find another contradicting message as regards this in another Bible,, do you even know there is up like 38 different bibles.
Baba, wise up and do proper research, if you come into debate with some people that even knows Bible than your yahoo pastors, you would turn to slowpoke.. You can set the challenge.. We are not bragging.. Bring your best and most versed Bible person

All Bibles are the same. There are different versions however, and they are for simplicity purposes. There are no contradictions in the Scriptures. Often times, people who don't really understand the entirety of these passages easily term it contradiction.

abdulkabirtobi:

U can't compare the two bcoz Ogun worshippers doesn't have a book that guide them, y is your book full of contradiction in its own self?

even your koran is full of contradictions

if what this man quoted is from d bible, that show xtians are just dump follower. can u tell me where Jesus is God in ur bible

There are fools scattered all over the face of the earth, no doubt, but you sheikh whatever, is the biggest of them all!

jamislaw:
for your mind abi? If he's a God why did said "elloy elloy lawasabas tani" ( Oh lord oh lord why are you forsaken me) while he was on a cross, which lord is he calling? If you claim he's God. Alot of contradiction in that book called biblos or Bible.

Horn your information any being that wants to dwell on this earth needs a body, that was why Christ though as God he deemed it fit for Him to take the form or body of man to dwell on earth. Jesus pre existed the beginning, John1:1-5, "in the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God and the Word was God." that same Word is Christ.

Just have one thing to say








Jesus is God.

This man is sick in the head

Sanchez01:


Quran 52:24

Round about the believers will serve, to them, young boys, who will be as pearls well-guarded.

alternatively translated as:

And there will go round boy-servants of theirs, to serve them, as if they were preserved pearls.

Quran 56:17:

They will be served by immortal eternal young boys ... as fair as virgin pearls

alternatively translated as:

Round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness.

I culled the above from Wikipedia. Going by the passages, I'm even tempted to say Sodomy is encouraged in Islam. I don't mean to rubbish your belief, just stating my observation.

quoting Koran out of context just to back up what doesn't exist. This looks funny.

The question that begs the answer is that how does Jesus being referred to as God affect him or stop him from practising his religion without sticking his nose where it doesn't belong? Northern Muslims are really trouble makers in every sense of the word. That's why Nigeria is facing two terrorist groups, Boko haram and armed fulani herdsmen.

Sanchez01:

Which Koran, please? The first or revised edition?

unlike Bible, the Koran only have one version.

JESUS CHRIST IS GOD! FOR HIS GREAT SACRIFICE HE WAS GIVEN D KEYS OF HELLS.....DATS AWESOME AUTHORITY.

AFTER HE RESSURECTED HE WAS GIVEN THE NAME ANOVE ALL NAMES! THAT AT THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW.......WHAT MORE IS DAT IF JESUS IS NOT GOD?

Foolish idiot.Come and take me to court too because i have the same belief too.Jesus is God.

Mr. Islamic schooler or what ever u call yourself. u are too insignificant to be popular, Stop tempting A man of God. your baseless court case will dwell with u forever if u don't have something good to offer.

Bakrabas:


Those who call stones, iron, image, thunder etc... Show me their scriptures

Afterall what is the different between the Christianity and traditional religion = they both worship image

I wonder why some people behave like castrated monkey. It takes only super intelligence to understand the fact that the Christianity is like washipping the dead man on the cross.

Why not let God destroy us himself for blasphemy? Why help God do his work.

I have no problem with Islam or its beliefs. I have issues with the followers. People like you.

Pray to God to destroy anybody that believes in Jesus. Stop fighting on God's behalf.

Every day we hear different story

idris4r83:
unlike Bible, the Koran only have one version.

True, but Christianity is not divided into two major sects who slaughter themselves.

I honestly don't blame your ilk. Had Abraham learned the place of self control, Ishmael would not have created the terror of a religion you kill for.

Pidgin2:


We are not serving the same God, nothing concern us with your god, Jesus is Lord.

u r worshipping Jesus, while the Muslims worship God. I challenge u 2 tell me one unequivocal statement in the Bible that says Jesus is God and am ready to dump my Islamic faith.

idris4r83:
quoting Koran out of context just to back up what doesn't exist. This looks funny.

Oh! So it is out of context now? I'll put up the passage again and then you'd help interpret it better, agreed?

Quran 52:24

Round about the believers will serve, to them, young boys, who will be as pearls well-guarded.

alternatively translated as:

And there will go round boy-servants of theirs, to serve them, as if they were preserved pearls.

Quran 56:17

They will be served by immortal eternal young boys ... as fair as virgin pearls

alternatively translated as:

Round about them will serve boys of perpetual freshness.

I'm waiting for your interpretation of Sodomy.

excel101:
Horn your information any being that wants to dwell on this earth needs a body, that was why Christ though as God he deemed it fit for Him to take the form or body of man to dwell on earth. Jesus pre existed the beginning, John1:1-5, "in the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God and the Word was God." that same Word is Christ.

those that mean that what I said earlier was just a joke? Which of the Gods was he referring to when he said "oh lord oh lord why are you forsaken me" is it the God of holy spirit or the God of a father? Your afformentioned statement has contradiction my assertion.

idris4r83:
u r worshipping Jesus, while the Muslims worship God. I challenge u 2 tell me one unequivocal statement in the Bible that says Jesus is God and am ready to dump my Islamic faith.

Our worship is to Jesus, yours is to Muhammed.

Matthew 1:23 - “Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel,” which is translated, “God with us.”

Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.

Isaiah 43:10,11 - “You are My witnesses,” says the Lord, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior.”
Revelation 1:17-18; Revelation 2:8 - (Jesus is the First and the Last)

Isaiah 44:6 - (God is the Redeemer)
2 Peter 1:1 (Jesus is the Redeemer) - “To those who have obtained like precious faith with us by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ”

Isaiah 44:24 - (God created the world by Himself alone)
John 1:3; Colossians 1:16 - (Jesus made all things)

John 1:1-3 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made... 1:14 - And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us,

John 5:17,18 - “My Father has been working until now, and I have been working.” Therefore the Jews sought to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also said that God was His Father, making Himself equal with God.

John 5:23 - that all should honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.

John 8:24 - “Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I AM [He], you will die in your sins.”

John 8:58 - Then Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM.”

John 10:30-33 - Jesus answered them, “I and My Father are one.” Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, “Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me?” The Jews answered Him, saying, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself God.”

John 14:6-7 - Jesus said to him, “I AM the way, the truth, and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.”

John 14:9-11 - Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, 'Show us the Father'?”

John 20:28 - And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!”

Acts 4:12 - “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

Acts 20:28 - (God purchased us with His own blood)
Revelation 1:5-6; Revelation 5:8-9 - (Jesus' blood purchased us)

Philippians 2:5-7 - Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bond-servant, and coming in the likeness of men.

Colossians 2:9 - For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily

1 Timothy 3:16 - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifested in the flesh, Justified in the Spirit, Seen by angels, Preached among the Gentiles, Believed on in the world, Received up in glory.

Titus 2:13 - looking for the blessed hope and glorious appearing of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ

Hebrews 1:8-9 - But to the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”

2 John 1:7 - For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Revelation 1:8 - “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End,” says the Lord, “who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty.”

Revelation 22:13 - “I AM the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.”... 22:16 - “I, Jesus, have sent My angel to testify to you these things in the churches.”

1 Timothy 6:14-16 - “our Lord Jesus Christ's appearing, which He will manifest in His own time, He who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen.”

So when are you opening a thread to denouncing Islam?

Sanchez01:

True, but Christianity is not divided into two major sects who slaughter themselves.

I honestly don't blame your ilk. Had Abraham learned the place of self control, Ishmael would not have created the terror of a religion you kill for.

do u want me to start listing Christianity sects? In fact there's no religion that boasts of many sects like Christianity.

finalboss:
is Jesus God?


where are the Christians, this sacrosanct plebeians are just flustered ...


am not startled thou...

JESUS IS GOD ALMIGHTY. IT IS EITHER YOU BELIEVE IT, LIVE WITH IT OR JUST IGNORE THE BITTER TRUTH.

abdulkabirtobi:

U can't compare the two bcoz Ogun worshippers doesn't have a book that guide them, y is your book full of contradiction in its own self?

And why is your own book full of hatred, discrimination & malicious blood-letting?

Instead of him to direct his energy towards his misguided muslim brothers who call islam peace and still go on to behead humans, he's here seeking attention.

Sanchez01:

Our worship is to Jesus, yours is to Muhammed.



So when are you opening a thread to denouncing Islam?

even from your first quote u have failed. Matthew 1:23 New International Version (NIV) 23 “The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel” (which means “God with us”).

idris4r83:
do u want me to start listing Christianity sects? In fact there's no religion that boasts of many sects like Christianity.

Exactly my point! Christianity has so many sects, doctrine, belief, pointing to one main person - Jesus. Despite the number, they don't find each other to kill or maim just because doctrine differ.

Islam has two major sects in the world but they kill one another at every given opportunity. Go figure!

Sanchez01:

Our worship is to Jesus, yours is to Muhammed.



So when are you opening a thread to denouncing Islam?

Please just Google the meaning of Immanuel and see for yourself. It simply means God is with us. And what is your point exactly?

izzou:
Illiteracy is worrying the sheikh

So people who call stones, knifes,iron, Thunder, water, as their God should be taken to court too?
What about those who don't believe there is God? Who will charge them to court?

Excellent point
How can a court legislate on the validity of a religious belief?
You mean a court will say those worshiping Osun deity are wrong?
I am a Muslim and I think Mabera is wrong

izzou:
I have no problem with Islam. The followers are actually the problem, not the religion

This applies to Christianity too, especially in Nigeria