thehomer:


The gullible and the deceived resort to appealing to religious faith when they need an excuse to believe irrational things.

Hello,

I have been following your reasoning. I enjoy intellectual gymnastics a lot, especially on points of religion. Your reasoning makes perfect sense.

But I want you to have an open mind, can you do that?

Your opponent may not be able to have an open mind, because he is always refering to the bible to back up his points. He is afraid of arriving at the truth using his brain, independent of any scripture.

Now can you have an open mind?

Thank you.

See, God Exists.

I cannot prove that to you using classical rules of Socratic logic.

It goes against all logical reasoning, any attempt to use logic here will usually end in contradictions.

There are two basic ways of believing any concept.

1. Via Socratic logic.

Or

2. Via Experiential Logic.


Socratic logic is based on valid premises, which leads to provable conclusions.

Experiential logic is based solely on individual experience, that cannot be demonstrated validly to third parties that do not go through the same experience.

Scientific facts are based on Socratic logic.

The dream you dreamt last night is based on experiential logic.

You can replicate and demonstrate scientific facts.

You cannot show the dream you dreamth to another person. You can only explain to them, and they are not obligated to believe you.

But the fact that they do not believe you does not mean that you did not have that dream...does it?

That is the whole point about God, the nature of God, the scriptures or any religious concept. You are not obliged to believe it. But your disbelief and the impossibility of demonstrating these points does not mean it is untrue.

It follows that we must all follow our own path to enlightenment, nobody can lead you there.

But having an open mind helps.

Do you understand me?

thehomer:


How are they fallacies when those are the implications of the information we have based on scientific evidence and reasoning?

Was there any observation to all your assumptions?

thehomer:


No I don't. Evolution is a fact of reality.

Evolution is imagination for adults.

thehomer:


How is it factual to claim that humans were moulded from sand, a donkey spoke, a man lived in a fish for a few days? It seems you're unable to tell reality from fantasy. Besides, they're your ancestors too.

Check up the composition of sand then compare it with what you will find in humans and give me a feedback.

thehomer:


By proper analysis of the evidence.

If there is no observation how will you be able to analyse the evidence?

thehomer:


No. What we have is Christians claiming that the God of the Bible did all that. What evidence do they have for such an assertion other than their flimsy book?

What we see is kinds producing after their kinds but we don't see ape-creatures evolving into humans.

OLAADEGBU:


Was there any observation to all your assumptions?

Yes lots.

OLAADEGBU:

Evolution is imagination for adults.

The fact that you believe in creation myths doesn't mean anyone who disagrees with you does the same.

OLAADEGBU:

Check up the composition of sand then compare it with what you will find in humans and give me a feedback.

What do you think I would find?

OLAADEGBU:

If there is no observation how will you be able to analyse the evidence?

There is observation.

OLAADEGBU:

What we see is kinds producing after their kinds but we don't see ape-creatures evolving into humans.

What is a kind?

thehomer:


Yes lots.

Give me an example.

thehomer:


The fact that you believe in creation myths doesn't mean anyone who disagrees with you does the same.

Creation is what we see around us as it still happens today. Cats are still producing cats, dogs are producing dogs and cows are still given birth to cows. Show me where evolution is taking place apart from your imaginations?

thehomer:


What do you think I would find?

The same.

thehomer:


There is observation.

Show me what you observed apart from what you see on your textbooks.

thehomer:


What is a kind?

Now you are asking the right question. A created kind (baramin) is referring to the original organisms (and their descendants) that have been created supernaturally by God as recorded in Genesis chapter One. These living things "reproduce only after their own kind within the limits of preprogrammed information, but with great variation."

The Devil is always on the Prowl.
And The Atheists are always scared.

If this isn't the truth, then I don't know what is!
Never ever..very true.

The Devil never rests. Like the Thread before this, the Devil wants all Born Agains to be Neurologists rather than Gynecologists so they can shine their Lights in the heads and not in their Patients' Pussies..

orunto27:


The Devil is always on the Prowl.
And The Atheists are always scared.

No rest for the wicked.

MZLady39:


If this isn't the truth, then I don't know what is!
Never ever..very true.

God bless you my sister.

OLAADEGBU:


No rest for the wicked.

No Rest for The Government sponsoring Fulani Herdsmen Take over Nigeria and Destruction of Christianity.