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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by hensben(m): 4:40pm On Mar 22, 2017
jonsnow92:

Neymar has 99 goals for Barca in 3 and half seasons..Are you saying Messi assisted about 80 of those goals from this your logic??
Also Is Messi a Brazilian too??.Neymar has done it on the Biggest stage..Won the Confederations cup almost singlehandedly(He was still a Santos Player then)..At the World Cup on a blind man would deny the brilliance of Neymar while playing in front of Gustavo and Fernandihno with mumu Fred as the top 9...Have you forgotten the Olympics so soon??..
OK Let's remove goals..What about Assists??..hazard is playing in his second Title winning Squad..Playing with Diego Costa and behind Assist master Fabregas..Has he ever had 10 EPL assists in his career before??.. Has he ever scored 15 league goals all his life??
Lest I forget, Stop that logic that one player should leave a league or in a better team..If you are good you are good..Sigurdson of relegation threatened Swansea tops the assist list in the EPL..My home boy Lukaku tops scores chart in EPL playing for Everton..
Its the last time you will post Anything hazard here..Take Your L and go
So you think football is all about goals and assist huh. Hazard has never assisted 10 times in a season? He has never scored 15goals? Your ignorance is legendary. This really shows you are a club fan and not a football fan(up barka fan).

According to my g, your L is LL cooL J. Pack am and swerve.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jonsnow92: 4:54pm On Mar 22, 2017
Meta4element:


I swear I feel like giving u I crate of Origin... Believe me bro U will make a good sports Analyst
I loyal Bro..All these Hazard fanboys no go let us hear word.. Tiwa Savage and Beyonce fit resemble..Them no be mates
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jonsnow92: 4:57pm On Mar 22, 2017
hensben:
So you think football is all about goals and assist huh. Hazard has never assisted 10 times in a season? He has never scored 15goals? Your ignorance is legendary. This really shows you are a club fan and not a football fan(up barka fan).

According to my g, your L is LL cooL J. Pack am and swerve.
Lol..Use your Number 6 Bro..Hazard is a winger/Left Forward as the case maybe with primary role of assisting the striker, Causing damage to oppositions full backs and scoring as the case maybe...Oh so now football isn't about goals and assist bah?..When your people Airmark and co were yabbing Iniesta that he doesn't score nor assist nko.?..When they were saying Lampard is a way better midfielder just cos he scores more
My brother you need a correct slippery Mouth Action to reset your Brain!!

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by hensben(m): 5:13pm On Mar 22, 2017
jonsnow92:
Lol..Use your Number 6 Bro..Hazard is a winger/Left Forward as the case maybe with primary role of assisting the striker, Causing damage to oppositions full backs and scoring as the case maybe...Oh so now football isn't about goals and assist bah?..When your people Airmark and co were yabbing Iniesta that he doesn't score nor assist nko.?..When they were saying Lampard is a way better midfielder just cos he scores more
My brother you need a correct slippery Mouth Action to reset your Brain!!
They started lampard iniesta comparison when your comrade here compare Hazard and Neymar base on goals and assist ignoring the fact that Hazard bar this season played as LMF/winger in 4-2-3-1 formation while Neymar as LWF/striker in 4-3-3 formation.

You really need to use your number 6 to analyze football not sentiment.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 5:26pm On Mar 22, 2017
hensben:

I repeat Neymar is not a better footballer than Hazard, he only has n advantage due to the team he plays for.

A greater of the world's soccer population thinks and believes otherwise. Those who hold the opinion that Hazard is the superior of the two are more oft than not Chelsea supporters.


Hazard arrived when Chelsea was on a rebuilding process after the declination of old guards due to age factor, can same be said of barcelona when Neymar arrived?NO.

This constitutes the dumbest premise ever!


Like I always say, football is not lawn tennis. Neymar is good so is Hazard but the team you find yourself will determine your chances of being recognized more either by football governing body, football analyst or fans
.

In other words, Barça is a much more better team than Chelsea? A simple yes or no would suffice.


I know why I said Neymar should move to epl or hazard to la Liga(Real Madrid) before I can really pass my final judgement as a FOOTBALL FAN.

Neymar already left visible pugmarks of his genius in the Brazilian league, banging in 54 goals in 103 appearances for FC. Santos. I'm certain even the blindest of bats is not unaware that Neymar has also flourished profoundly in international football.

So, pray tell, why must he have to play in the EPL when he has already proved himself in the Brazilian league, in international football (Confederations Cup), and in transcontinental European football which also happen to be the zenith of club football - the UCL?

I'm not surprised, knowing fully well that this is often the stock-in-trade of anti-Barça cum anti-Messi critics.

"Messi must have to play in EPL or Serie A to be considered the greatest. Neymar must have to play in the Nigerian league before we can say he is better than Hazard. Blah blah blah. Wah wah wah".

Can we also say Steven Spielberg cannot be considered to be among the world's greatest producers on the basis that he hasn't produced in Nollywood?

I hope y'all that throw this argument around a lot can now realize how weak and faulty it is?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by dmcdad: 5:27pm On Mar 22, 2017
LordEmperoris1:
YES

IT WILL BE TOUGH ENCOUNTER


HOPEFULLY DYBALA AND HUGAIN WILL RUN THE SHOW
Same way Thiago Alcantara (my boi), Ribery, Douglas Costa, Lewandowski (your nemesis) and baba of them all, Robben. Na die you dey.cheesy
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 5:30pm On Mar 22, 2017
Chelseafan1:

Hazard's a midfielder. He does the work of a midfielder but you people will say we are making excuses for him.

He isn't a good goal scorer like Neymar, Messi, Cr7, Griezmann...... I doubt he can ever score goals like these guys.

Who is talking about Hazard? I was talking about Iniesta [and Lampard].
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by dmcdad: 5:41pm On Mar 22, 2017
Chelseafan1:


Stop making a fool of yourself, Ode, he wasn't referring to me, Airmark don finish u, u no sabi anything again.

Follow the convo he was having with byke b4 u carry ur mumu hand quote am, no dey disgrace urself abeg.
Na only God know ow u take pass 4 skul sef. Is it not obvious dey were talking about the Chelsea fans on Twitter.....ur case no be ordinary.
Who finish me? The same person wey don lost even the little credibility him get because of hate and bias? How would I care about someone who changes his opinion more often like a mother changing the diaper of a toddler? Everyone he had pitted against Busi had failed. From Matic, to Coquelin, to Krychowiak and now to who? Yet, Busi had won every battle against the aforementioned. And, ontop of that, this same person keeps hating rather than throw in the towel as it seems he keeps failing with his assertions. Is that the same person you draw inspiration from? Gawd! How condescending!

Meanwhile, you say I no sabi anything again,which means I sabi before. But you, na that night school wey you go be the biggest problem you dey face. Because you no ever sabi anything at all. Always jumping on issues that despises Neymar or Iniesta even when they reek of utter and shear stupidity.

Neymar owns Hazard for life!
Iniesta owns Lampard for life!

Deal with these facts bro! Nothing you or any of your Shekpites fellaz can change that with your rants on NL.

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by dmcdad: 5:43pm On Mar 22, 2017
Theflash98:
You misunderstood each other...dmcdad was talking about the last line which says "not only on nairaland that hazard fans that it is a global thing"... it's means hazard fans on nairaland are mumu
Gbam!
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by freaklesschild(m): 6:00pm On Mar 22, 2017
i tire for the post when i dey see today ooo...first i have to say what you guys are arguing about is simple and logical , when you check on hazard and neymar, removing goals from their matter neymar is superior , neymar as cause more penalty that any player since is arrival in 2013, hazard is also a dribbler right, and was also around in the same time , count does penalty he has given barca , then you see he has given us many opportunity to score and most of them re surely goals, he was voted best player for the confederation cup without messi abi no be lie....saying chelsea player wont be noticed because barca and real re more likelier to win ...ronaldo wasn't playing for any of those when he won the world best as a 25 year old same age with hazard and also playing fully as a winger unlike now..lampard was voted 2nd best player in the 2004 /2005 season behind the mighty ronaldinho while playing for the same chelsea, i don't wanna go to way back when neymar was in santos you guys no what he really did , while some of you label him a youtube player he was able to create another youtube when playing for barca also, go check on that by your self . playing for brazil national team is even more harder nowadays unlike does days when they have top notch players, hazard belgium as even way better squad than these brazil and he was not able to do what ney have done carrying the team almost single handedly , winning the olympics...hazard was present at the world cup isn't it ...there is no argument even some chelsea fans were able to admit , even though in silence , there is no way he can be better than ney when all the stat , goals , influence , all the things to judge a player is going neymar way, abi, ona 1 tell me say santos his bigger than lille in france , france league as more viewer than anything thing braZil as to offer , more sponsorship, more popularity so what re u saying ..... pls Dont waste the strength you re to use in fetching water to start arguing pointless things biko
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Chelseafan1: 6:06pm On Mar 22, 2017
dmcdad:
[s]
Who finish me? The same person wey don lost even the little credibility him get because of hate and bias? How would I care about someone who changes his opinion more often like a mother changing the diaper of a toddler? Everyone he had pitted against Busi had failed. From Matic, to Coquelin, to Krychowiak and now to who? Yet, Busi had won every battle against the aforementioned. And, ontop of that, this same person keeps hating rather than throw in the towel as it seems he keeps failing with his assertions. Is that the same person you draw inspiration from? Gawd! How condescending!

Meanwhile, you say I no sabi anything again,which means I sabi before. But you, na that night school wey you go be the biggest problem you dey face. Because you no ever sabi anything at all. Always jumping on issues that despises Neymar or Iniesta even when they reek of utter and shear stupidity.

Neymar owns Hazard for life!
Iniesta owns Lampard for life!

Deal with these facts bro! Nothing you or any of your Shekpites fellaz can change that with your rants on NL.[/s]

OK bro, shey u sha don agree say na Twitter guy hin dey talk about no be me, shey u don agree abi shame no let u?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by freaklesschild(m): 6:09pm On Mar 22, 2017
dmcdad:

Who finish me? The same person wey don lost even the little credibility him get because of hate and bias? How would I care about someone who changes his opinion more often like a mother changing the diaper of a toddler? Everyone he had pitted against Busi had failed. From Matic, to Coquelin, to Krychowiak and now to who? Yet, Busi had won every battle against the aforementioned. And, ontop of that, this same person keeps hating rather than throw in the towel as it seems he keeps failing with his assertions. Is that the same person you draw inspiration from? Gawd! How condescending!

Meanwhile, you say I no sabi anything again,which means I sabi before. But you, na that night school wey you go be the biggest problem you dey face. Because you no ever sabi anything at all. Always jumping on issues that despises Neymar or Iniesta even when they reek of utter and shear stupidity.

Neymar owns Hazard for life!
Iniesta owns Lampard for life!

Deal with these facts bro! Nothing you or any of your Shekpites fellaz can change that with your rants on NL.
while they re hear ranting on NL Expert around the world re already waaooed by the neymar beast mode he showed against psg, NL Wouldnt change anything , professionals knows the answer to the questions neymar is a future ballon d or winner , and might prosibily win when messi and ronaldo are still playing sef .
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Chelseafan1: 6:10pm On Mar 22, 2017
DarkRebel101:


Who is talking about Hazard? I was talking about Iniesta [and Lampard].

Of cos I know, dt was only to tell u dt, u also shouldn't rate Hazard based on goals scored alone...He hardly make the final assists too.
He does the dirty job for the team.


Moral of my story


A midfielder won't score as much goals as an attacker like Neymar. EVen if Hazard attacks like MSN for Barça, he wont still score this high.

But just like Iniesta, he is capable of winning several MOTM.
He has 10 already in the league.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by raumdeuter: 6:31pm On Mar 22, 2017
hensben:
And for your mind you get brain. Barca play ball possession game unlike Chelsea under mou who played defensive game so how is Neymar defending when his team is always in control in every game huh. Under mou the two wingers are always behind the ball defending so they are restricted attacking wise compare that to Barca who create chances every 2 minutes in Match.

Atletico plays a more defensive football and Griezman has more than 2 CL goals from open play

Scratch Griezmann even Carasco has more goals from open play than Hidden Hazard

Even Riyad Mahrez has played just one season in CL and has more goals than Hidden Hazard from open play

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by raumdeuter: 6:40pm On Mar 22, 2017
Chelseafan1:


Of cos I know, dt was only to tell u dt, u also shouldn't rate Hazard based on goals scored alone...He hardly make the final assists too.
He does the dirty job for the team.


Moral of my story


A midfielder won't score as much goals as an attacker like Neymar. EVen if Hazard attacks like MSN for Barça, he wont still score this high.

But just like Iniesta, he is capable of winning several MOTM.
He has 10 already in the league.
WHich yeye dirty job?

For Chelsea thats Kante.

You told us its defensive work that makes Hazard useless in front of goal now he has been relieved of all defensive work yet he is still useless 11 goals 5 assists in all competition
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Chelseafan1: 6:47pm On Mar 22, 2017
raumdeuter:


Atletico plays a more defensive football and Griezman has more than 2 CL goals from open play

Scratch Griezmann even Carasco has more goals from open play than Hidden Hazard

Even Riyad Mahrez has played just one season in CL and has more goals than Hidden Hazard from open play

Do these guys play like Hazard, do they do the kinda job Hazard does in that Chelsea squad, be honest to yourself.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Chelseafan1: 6:48pm On Mar 22, 2017
raumdeuter:

WHich yeye dirty job?

For Chelsea thats Kante.

You told us its defensive work that makes Hazard useless in front of goal now he has been relieved of all defensive work yet he is still useless 11 goals 5 assists in all competition

He isn't the one to rack up many goals, didn't he state that himself.?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by raumdeuter: 6:54pm On Mar 22, 2017
Chelseafan1:
Do these guys play like Hazard, do they do the kinda job Hazard does in that Chelsea squad, be honest to yourself.

How does Hazard play that no one has ever done before? Mahrez, Carasco are wingers in a defensive team like you claim Hazard does. The only excuse is that Hazard is hopeless
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by hensben(m): 6:55pm On Mar 22, 2017
raumdeuter:


Atletico plays a more defensive football and Griezman has more than 2 CL goals from open play

Scratch Griezmann even Carasco has more goals from open play than Hidden Hazard

Even Riyad Mahrez has played just one season in CL and has more goals than Hidden Hazard from open play
griezman is a striker.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by raumdeuter: 6:57pm On Mar 22, 2017
Chelseafan1:
He isn't the one to rack up many goals, didn't he state that himself.?

That is a useless attacker. Which excuse have you not given him. He is playing in a defensive team yet I gave you other wingers who play in even more defensive system

Is Chelsea more defensive than Leicester or Atletico Madrid?
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by raumdeuter: 6:58pm On Mar 22, 2017
hensben:
griezman is a striker.

Carasco is also a striker, Mahrez is also a striker

Hidden Hazard failure has made his fans demote him from attacker to winger soon to keeper

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by obiorathesubtle: 7:26pm On Mar 22, 2017
Chelseafan1:


Of cos I know, dt was only to tell u dt, u also shouldn't rate Hazard based on goals scored alone...He hardly make the final assists too.
He does the dirty job for the team.


Moral of my story


A midfielder won't score as much goals as an attacker like Neymar. EVen if Hazard attacks like MSN for Barça, he wont still score this high.

But just like Iniesta, he is capable of winning several MOTM.
He has 10 already in the league.


I hate to sound like this. I hate Chelsea as much as you all do.



But if Arda turan can score goals and pad stats while under the MSN wings.. I know Hazard can cause more good than Arda..
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Theflash98: 7:49pm On Mar 22, 2017
obiorathesubtle:



I hate to sound like this. I hate Chelsea as much as you all do.



But if Arda turan can score goals and pad stats while under the MSN wings.. I know Hazard can cause more good than Arda..


Arda turan isn't as good as hazard but he is better goal scorer
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jonsnow92: 7:53pm On Mar 22, 2017
Ter Steven starts in goal for Germany
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by bigkesh(m): 7:57pm On Mar 22, 2017
dmcdad:



Neymar owns Hazard for life!
Iniesta owns Lampard for life!

.

Sorry Man you can't have it both ways

If Neymar is better than Hazard then Lampard is superior to INIESTA

You gotta pick one
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Nobody: 7:59pm On Mar 22, 2017
Chelseafan1:

Of cos I know, dt was only to tell u dt, u also shouldn't rate Hazard based on goals scored alone...He hardly make the final assists too.
He does the dirty job for the team.

If he rarely scores and rarely assists, how logically sound is it then to still compare him to one (Neymar) who both scores and assists with dazzling flair?

And no, Matic, not Hazard, does Chelsea's "dirty job" - and by that I assume you're referring to the battle of gaining control of the midfield and in winning back lost balls.


Moral of my story
A midfielder won't score as much goals as an attacker like Neymar. EVen if Hazard attacks like MSN for Barça, he wont still score this high.

But just like Iniesta, he is capable of winning several MOTM.
He has 10 already in the league.

Hazard is primarily a winger/AMF, and not a midfielder in its strictest sense. Comparing him to Iniesta doesn't cut the mustard as they both play in different positions.
It's only to justify the dearth of goals in his resumé that Chelsea fans recourse to claiming that Hazard operates from the midfield.

Newsflash!, Neymar also functions occasionally as an attacking midfielder for Brazil - the Confederations Cup is one huge example. And guess what? He was prolific while playing in the role - I wish I could say the same for Hazard.

If you are going to establish Hazard's supremacy over Neymar then you've got to do way better than these frail set of namby-pamby premises.

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Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by Heywhizzy(m): 8:25pm On Mar 22, 2017
Chelseafan1:


He isn't the one to rack up many goals, didn't he state that himself.?
isn't this enough reason to prove hazard already gave up on his ballon d'or dream,,.

Hype were prepared round him by media and mourinho stating he just need to score more often to be d heir to messi n cr7 throne..after few matches reality set in and dude hopelessly confessed he can't do it..who does that?

I can't count how many times the Belgian coach then challenged hidden to do more
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jstbeinhonest(m): 8:33pm On Mar 22, 2017
Theflash98:



Arda turan isn't as good as hazard but he is better goal scorer

I'm not sure if this is entirely true.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by hensben(m): 8:43pm On Mar 22, 2017
raumdeuter:


Carasco is also a striker, Mahrez is also a striker

Hidden Hazard failure has made his fans demote him from attacker to winger soon to keeper
so are you saying carasco or griezman are better players than Hazard.
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jstbeinhonest(m): 8:45pm On Mar 22, 2017
The Juve game just dey excite me. Cant wait. I think their current squad is slightly better than the one we faced in '15 .
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jonsnow92: 8:53pm On Mar 22, 2017
DarkRebel101:


If he rarely scores and rarely assists, how logically sound is it then to still compare him to one (Neymar) who both scores and assists with dazzling flair?

And no, Matic, not Hazard, does Chelsea's "dirty job" - and by that I assume you're referring to the battle of gaining control of the midfield and in winning back lost balls.



Hazard is primarily a winger/AMF, and not a midfielder in its strictest sense. Comparing him to Iniesta doesn't cut the mustard as they both play in different positions.
It's only to justify the dearth of goals in his resumé that Chelsea fans recourse to claiming that Hazard operates from the midfield.

Newsflash!, Neymar also functions occasionally as an attacking midfielder for Brazil - the Confederations Cup is one huge example. And guess what? He was prolific while playing in the role - I wish I could say the same for Hazard.

If you are going to establish Hazard's supremacy over Neymar then you've got to do way better than these frail set of namby-pamby premises.
Gbam!!..Couldn't have said it better...
Re: Fc Barcelona Fan Thread: "més Que Un Club" by jonsnow92: 8:57pm On Mar 22, 2017
hensben:
so are you saying carasco or griezman are better players than Hazard.
Carrasco No..Griezman Yes!..He gave that illustration to counter your baseless argument that Hazard doesn't score nor assist cos Chelsea was a defensive team..He then counters saying Atletico are more defensive and yet Griezman and Mr New comer Carasco has more goals than Hazard...
In order words dig deeper for better points..Thanks

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