Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Raalsalghul: 8:05pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
Minemrys:
lols, ra'as u've c0me to lead a league of anti-snyder ba? Don't worry, snyder will c0nvince u with JL. You'll see. On November 19, I'll screen grab this page, upload it followed by bold letters of "I told you so". |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Raalsalghul: 8:08pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
oseka101: am telling you i pray after they see justice league ... They will be convinced that Zack Snyder has to go..... Or maybe a partnership with Snyder and Chris nolans No partnership! The guy should be a thousand miles far from the DCEU. As of now, my only prayer is that the film makes at least a billion dollars. As for the reviews, 12 % on RT is sure. Snyder must go! 1 Like |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Minemrys: 8:10pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
Raalsalghul: On November 19, I'll screen grab this page, upload it followed by bold letters of "I told you so". don't worry, i'd be the one to do that. |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Raalsalghul: 8:12pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
Minemrys:
don't worry, i'd be the one to do that. Time will tell. Remember you had this same faith in the guy for BvS. |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by TonySpike: 8:29pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
Raalsalghul: No partnership! The guy should be a thousand miles far from the DCEU. As of now, my only prayer is that the film makes at least a billion dollars. As for the reviews, 12 % on RT is sure. Snyder must go! Hahaha, that's Iron Fist Rotten level. Justice League can never be that low, Bro . That's just your fantasy... 1 Like |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Minemrys: 8:33pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
Raalsalghul: Time will tell. Remember you had this same faith in the guy for BvS. Time shall tell bro. Time shall tell. |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Minemrys: 8:34pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
Things are going to pick up in the Dceu starting with wonder woman. |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by oseka101(m): 9:26pm On Mar 26, 2017 |
Minemrys: Things are going to pick up in the Dceu starting with wonder woman. hmmm well i don't trust the director of wonder woman ooo she's not known for action movies more like thriller but lets wait and see she might just blow us away!!! |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by TonySpike: 4:36pm On Mar 27, 2017 |
Very apt, very very apt! 3 Likes |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by TonySpike: 4:37pm On Mar 27, 2017 |
I'm not surprised by this though... |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by oseka101(m): 6:08pm On Mar 27, 2017 |
That's just the first thriller i bet u he will show superman in the second thriller!!! |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Minemrys: 7:59pm On Mar 27, 2017 |
oseka101: That's just the first thriller i bet u he will show superman in the second thriller!!! 1st its trailer not thriller. 2nd, Zack isn't responsible for the marketting strategy of the films. WB, the studio is. Its n0t as if the DCEU is Snyder's independent film. Its n0t. Its a studio film. What Snyder does is film it and WB does and decides what to do with the movie. As prove it wasn't snyder that released the trailer, it was wb on their youtube channel. 2 Likes |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by TonySpike: 4:14pm On Mar 28, 2017 |
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Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by MJBOLT: 11:54pm On Mar 28, 2017 |
damn the speed of DCEU barry Allen No be here, the thunder that fired him must have been doing press up
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Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Nobody: 12:20am On Mar 29, 2017 |
Future flash. He's on the highest level of speed. Thus, the blue light.
#My NL is buggy. I can't quote on UC. Only on chrome. |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by kryptonian1987(m): 4:32am On Mar 29, 2017 |
I am totally convinced now that there is not Zack Snyder and DCEU can do to please those marveltards extremists. The last time I checked; it was all about Wonder Woman's ampits....lol! Now it's about JL trailer to SM: Homecoming trailer! Ehya! this marveltards no go kill us with their hates and sentiments towards DCEU!
ow Spider-Man avoided the worst mistake of the Justice League trailer52commentsWhat are we afraid of?byBen KucheraMar 28, 2017, 4:00pm EDTtweetsharepinPeter Parker and Iron Man bond over being superheroesSonyToday’sSpider-Man: Homecomingtrailer did a lot of things right, although it also kind of gave away the entirety of the film in doing so. But one of the best aspects of the trailer is that it set up thestakes of the film, including antagonists both internal and external.This is an area where theJustice Leaguetrailer completely falls apart; it struggles to find any reason for the viewer to care about what’s going on, nor does it justify why these heroes areteaming up.Spider-Man’sexternal villain is Vulture,but the real bad guy here is Spider-Man’s own eagerness and lack of experience. He wants to use his newly acquired suit to save the city, even though Tony Stark warns him that job is best left to the older and more experienced heroes. It looks as though the suit is actually taken away during the course of the movie, making Spider-Man mirror that horrible gamingtrope where you’re given all your powers at the beginning of the game only to lose them and spend the next few hours gaining them back.The good news is that we know what the stakes are. Vulture doesn’t care if he kills people, but those people may be saved by the existing heroes even if Spider-Man stays home. It doesn’t seem as if the world itself is in jeopardy; Vulture is a contained threat with a limited ability to hurt others who is fighting against heroes who are already in place. Spider-Man himself seems a bit redundant, even though we’re of course cheering for him to prove himself to Stark. Who hasn’t felt inadequate in front of a parental figure?This conflict is relatively small for a superhero film, which matches the film’s whimsical poster. This sort of arcis refreshing, and it helpsSpider-Man: Homecomingfeel more interesting thanjust being another superhero movie.He’s not fighting his way through a sea of faceless, disposable grunts. He’s either fighting low-level crime or failingto do Iron Man’s job when it comes to dealing with the big bad. We know whatwe’re supposed to be afraid of, and it’s mostly Spider-Man’s emotions. He justwants to grow up and save people, and he’s either slipping up when doing so or being told he’s moving too fast. It’s relatable, which was always the best part of Spider-Man as a character for many of us.To be clear, we don’t know if the story being sold in this trailer is the same story as the movie itself, but for now that’s all we have to go on. The important thing is how well the trailer grabs the audience and gets them interested.Which brings us to theJustice Leaguetrailer.Sorry to keep beating up on Warner Bros. but ...The Justice League trailer does absolutely nothing — outside of very basic fan service — to get us to care about this conflict. The planet or galaxyhangs in the balance, we think, but the trailer relies on the same faceless horde of disposable bad guys that we saw in the Batman dream sequence fromBatman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. Our heroes dutifully beat up the aliens while quipping to each other about this and that, but there never seems to be anything actually at stake.“There’s an attack coming, from far away,” Bruce Wayne says in his heaviest of heavy voices but ... why is that scary? We have a big group of heroes who seems in charge of the situation through the whole trailer. There are no stakes, there is no bad guy to fear and no reason given for whythese characters need to team up. Theyare in control of every situation in the trailer, and there are no character arcs even hinted at. Bruce Wayne is rich, The Flash is fast, and Cyborg is bad CG. They beat up on the would-be Chitauri and that’s that.“There's certainly logic to amassing an army against a super-team, especially on the big screen: It stops your protagonists from looking like bullies (who really wants to watch a five-against-one fight?) while giving each of them something to do simultaneously; it is, after all, harder to temporarily ‘hide’ that characters are present in a scene (or a physical space)onscreen compared with a comic book,”a Hollywood Reporter storyabout the use of faceless drones in superhero films states. “That setting your heroes loose against an army alsoallows for multiple action sequences and the good guys get to look kick-ass and productive without ending the movie too early is just an added bonus.”The problem is that we have no reason to root for our heroes when they don’t seem to have anything to overcome. The speculationis that Superman returns as a bad guy— and that’s cringe inducing for a whole host of reasons — and of coursewe know who the actual bad guy is due to cut scenesand interviews, but the trailer fails to give us any hint of drama or struggle. There should be something big happening to give all these legendary characters a reason to work together, and the best the trailer can do is say bad dudes are on their way. Thanks?The first Avengers trailer made sure to establish the threat first, along with scenes that suggest normal people put up a strong resistance to Loki but failed. Then the team is assembled, andwe see them fighting each other as wellas sometimes losing in combat to Loki.The logic of what is happening and why is established, and we’re sold on the fact theyhadto come together.The Avengersused the faceless army trope with the Chitauri, much likeJustice League, but the trailer didn’t only show scenes of victory and what passes for humor in the Snyder-verse. The trailer’s editor knew that showing fear and uncertainty was the best way to pull the audience in. They need to have something to overcome for the film to be interesting.Justice Leaguedoesn’t give us that at all, andSpider-Man’strailer did so by lowering the stakes due to the fact he’s entering a mature cinematic universe with existing characters who are more than able to take care of these situations without him. He has to provehimself to Iron Man and the world at large as much as he has to fight Vulture, and it’s going to be fascinating to see how the movie removes Iron Man from the situation to give Spider-Man an excuse to step back in and takecare of things, thus proving himself to The Avengers and setting up 15 sequels and blah blah blah. We know where the story is going, but at least the trailer attempts to get us invested inthe arc of the character.Marvel changed the tone of Spider-Man from existing movies in its universe, and addressed the fact that heroes already exist and finding a way to keep the film tense is going to require at least a bit of imagination. Keeping Spider-Man’s largest struggle emotional is a good way to do this, butJustice Leaguehas yet to figure out a way to get audiences to care about the film’s story without simply using their existing love of these characters. |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Shittaakeem(m): 7:14am On Mar 29, 2017 |
kryptonian1987: I am totally convinced now that there is not Zack Snyder and DCEU can do to please those marveltards extremists. The last time I checked; it was all about Wonder Woman's ampits....lol! Now it's about JL trailer to SM: Homecoming trailer! Ehya! this marveltards no go kill us with their hates and sentiments towards DCEU!
ow Spider-Man avoided the worst mistake of the Justice League trailer52commentsWhat are we afraid of?byBen KucheraMar 28, 2017, 4:00pm EDTtweetsharepinPeter Parker and Iron Man bond over being superheroesSonyToday’sSpider-Man: Homecomingtrailer did a lot of things right, although it also kind of gave away the entirety of the film in doing so. But one of the best aspects of the trailer is that it set up thestakes of the film, including antagonists both internal and external.This is an area where theJustice Leaguetrailer completely falls apart; it struggles to find any reason for the viewer to care about what’s going on, nor does it justify why these heroes areteaming up.Spider-Man’sexternal villain is Vulture,but the real bad guy here is Spider-Man’s own eagerness and lack of experience. He wants to use his newly acquired suit to save the city, even though Tony Stark warns him that job is best left to the older and more experienced heroes. It looks as though the suit is actually taken away during the course of the movie, making Spider-Man mirror that horrible gamingtrope where you’re given all your powers at the beginning of the game only to lose them and spend the next few hours gaining them back.The good news is that we know what the stakes are. Vulture doesn’t care if he kills people, but those people may be saved by the existing heroes even if Spider-Man stays home. It doesn’t seem as if the world itself is in jeopardy; Vulture is a contained threat with a limited ability to hurt others who is fighting against heroes who are already in place. Spider-Man himself seems a bit redundant, even though we’re of course cheering for him to prove himself to Stark. Who hasn’t felt inadequate in front of a parental figure?This conflict is relatively small for a superhero film, which matches the film’s whimsical poster. This sort of arcis refreshing, and it helpsSpider-Man: Homecomingfeel more interesting thanjust being another superhero movie.He’s not fighting his way through a sea of faceless, disposable grunts. He’s either fighting low-level crime or failingto do Iron Man’s job when it comes to dealing with the big bad. We know whatwe’re supposed to be afraid of, and it’s mostly Spider-Man’s emotions. He justwants to grow up and save people, and he’s either slipping up when doing so or being told he’s moving too fast. It’s relatable, which was always the best part of Spider-Man as a character for many of us.To be clear, we don’t know if the story being sold in this trailer is the same story as the movie itself, but for now that’s all we have to go on. The important thing is how well the trailer grabs the audience and gets them interested.Which brings us to theJustice Leaguetrailer.Sorry to keep beating up on Warner Bros. but ...The Justice League trailer does absolutely nothing — outside of very basic fan service — to get us to care about this conflict. The planet or galaxyhangs in the balance, we think, but the trailer relies on the same faceless horde of disposable bad guys that we saw in the Batman dream sequence fromBatman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. Our heroes dutifully beat up the aliens while quipping to each other about this and that, but there never seems to be anything actually at stake.“There’s an attack coming, from far away,” Bruce Wayne says in his heaviest of heavy voices but ... why is that scary? We have a big group of heroes who seems in charge of the situation through the whole trailer. There are no stakes, there is no bad guy to fear and no reason given for whythese characters need to team up. Theyare in control of every situation in the trailer, and there are no character arcs even hinted at. Bruce Wayne is rich, The Flash is fast, and Cyborg is bad CG. They beat up on the would-be Chitauri and that’s that.“There's certainly logic to amassing an army against a super-team, especially on the big screen: It stops your protagonists from looking like bullies (who really wants to watch a five-against-one fight?) while giving each of them something to do simultaneously; it is, after all, harder to temporarily ‘hide’ that characters are present in a scene (or a physical space)onscreen compared with a comic book,”a Hollywood Reporter storyabout the use of faceless drones in superhero films states. “That setting your heroes loose against an army alsoallows for multiple action sequences and the good guys get to look kick-ass and productive without ending the movie too early is just an added bonus.”The problem is that we have no reason to root for our heroes when they don’t seem to have anything to overcome. The speculationis that Superman returns as a bad guy— and that’s cringe inducing for a whole host of reasons — and of coursewe know who the actual bad guy is due to cut scenesand interviews, but the trailer fails to give us any hint of drama or struggle. There should be something big happening to give all these legendary characters a reason to work together, and the best the trailer can do is say bad dudes are on their way. Thanks?The first Avengers trailer made sure to establish the threat first, along with scenes that suggest normal people put up a strong resistance to Loki but failed. Then the team is assembled, andwe see them fighting each other as wellas sometimes losing in combat to Loki.The logic of what is happening and why is established, and we’re sold on the fact theyhadto come together.The Avengersused the faceless army trope with the Chitauri, much likeJustice League, but the trailer didn’t only show scenes of victory and what passes for humor in the Snyder-verse. The trailer’s editor knew that showing fear and uncertainty was the best way to pull the audience in. They need to have something to overcome for the film to be interesting.Justice Leaguedoesn’t give us that at all, andSpider-Man’strailer did so by lowering the stakes due to the fact he’s entering a mature cinematic universe with existing characters who are more than able to take care of these situations without him. He has to provehimself to Iron Man and the world at large as much as he has to fight Vulture, and it’s going to be fascinating to see how the movie removes Iron Man from the situation to give Spider-Man an excuse to step back in and takecare of things, thus proving himself to The Avengers and setting up 15 sequels and blah blah blah. We know where the story is going, but at least the trailer attempts to get us invested inthe arc of the character.Marvel changed the tone of Spider-Man from existing movies in its universe, and addressed the fact that heroes already exist and finding a way to keep the film tense is going to require at least a bit of imagination. Keeping Spider-Man’s largest struggle emotional is a good way to do this, butJustice Leaguehas yet to figure out a way to get audiences to care about the film’s story without simply using their existing love of these characters.
seriously what the Bleep is wrong with you. Why do u have to drag marvel fans into your shit ranting. Last time time checked its the neutrals(comicbook fans) who made complaints the most. besides we got our own shit to deal with. Iron fist got a 12% rating on rt you don't see us blaming DC fans. PS stop being a cry baby. |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by TonySpike: 7:47am On Mar 29, 2017 |
kryptonian1987: I am totally convinced now that there is not Zack Snyder and DCEU can do to please those marveltards extremists. The last time I checked; it was all about Wonder Woman's ampits....lol! Now it's about JL trailer to SM: Homecoming trailer! Ehya! this marveltards no go kill us with their hates and sentiments towards DCEU!
ow Spider-Man avoided the worst mistake of the Justice League trailer52commentsWhat are we afraid of?byBen KucheraMar 28, 2017, 4:00pm EDTtweetsharepinPeter Parker and Iron Man bond over being superheroesSonyToday’sSpider-Man: Homecomingtrailer did a lot of things right, although it also kind of gave away the entirety of the film in doing so. But one of the best aspects of the trailer is that it set up thestakes of the film, including antagonists both internal and external.This is an area where theJustice Leaguetrailer completely falls apart; it struggles to find any reason for the viewer to care about what’s going on, nor does it justify why these heroes areteaming up.Spider-Man’sexternal villain is Vulture,but the real bad guy here is Spider-Man’s own eagerness and lack of experience. He wants to use his newly acquired suit to save the city, even though Tony Stark warns him that job is best left to the older and more experienced heroes. It looks as though the suit is actually taken away during the course of the movie, making Spider-Man mirror that horrible gamingtrope where you’re given all your powers at the beginning of the game only to lose them and spend the next few hours gaining them back.The good news is that we know what the stakes are. Vulture doesn’t care if he kills people, but those people may be saved by the existing heroes even if Spider-Man stays home. It doesn’t seem as if the world itself is in jeopardy; Vulture is a contained threat with a limited ability to hurt others who is fighting against heroes who are already in place. Spider-Man himself seems a bit redundant, even though we’re of course cheering for him to prove himself to Stark. Who hasn’t felt inadequate in front of a parental figure?This conflict is relatively small for a superhero film, which matches the film’s whimsical poster. This sort of arcis refreshing, and it helpsSpider-Man: Homecomingfeel more interesting thanjust being another superhero movie.He’s not fighting his way through a sea of faceless, disposable grunts. He’s either fighting low-level crime or failingto do Iron Man’s job when it comes to dealing with the big bad. We know whatwe’re supposed to be afraid of, and it’s mostly Spider-Man’s emotions. He justwants to grow up and save people, and he’s either slipping up when doing so or being told he’s moving too fast. It’s relatable, which was always the best part of Spider-Man as a character for many of us.To be clear, we don’t know if the story being sold in this trailer is the same story as the movie itself, but for now that’s all we have to go on. The important thing is how well the trailer grabs the audience and gets them interested.Which brings us to theJustice Leaguetrailer.Sorry to keep beating up on Warner Bros. but ...The Justice League trailer does absolutely nothing — outside of very basic fan service — to get us to care about this conflict. The planet or galaxyhangs in the balance, we think, but the trailer relies on the same faceless horde of disposable bad guys that we saw in the Batman dream sequence fromBatman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. Our heroes dutifully beat up the aliens while quipping to each other about this and that, but there never seems to be anything actually at stake.“There’s an attack coming, from far away,” Bruce Wayne says in his heaviest of heavy voices but ... why is that scary? We have a big group of heroes who seems in charge of the situation through the whole trailer. There are no stakes, there is no bad guy to fear and no reason given for whythese characters need to team up. Theyare in control of every situation in the trailer, and there are no character arcs even hinted at. Bruce Wayne is rich, The Flash is fast, and Cyborg is bad CG. They beat up on the would-be Chitauri and that’s that.“There's certainly logic to amassing an army against a super-team, especially on the big screen: It stops your protagonists from looking like bullies (who really wants to watch a five-against-one fight?) while giving each of them something to do simultaneously; it is, after all, harder to temporarily ‘hide’ that characters are present in a scene (or a physical space)onscreen compared with a comic book,”a Hollywood Reporter storyabout the use of faceless drones in superhero films states. “That setting your heroes loose against an army alsoallows for multiple action sequences and the good guys get to look kick-ass and productive without ending the movie too early is just an added bonus.”The problem is that we have no reason to root for our heroes when they don’t seem to have anything to overcome. The speculationis that Superman returns as a bad guy— and that’s cringe inducing for a whole host of reasons — and of coursewe know who the actual bad guy is due to cut scenesand interviews, but the trailer fails to give us any hint of drama or struggle. There should be something big happening to give all these legendary characters a reason to work together, and the best the trailer can do is say bad dudes are on their way. Thanks?The first Avengers trailer made sure to establish the threat first, along with scenes that suggest normal people put up a strong resistance to Loki but failed. Then the team is assembled, andwe see them fighting each other as wellas sometimes losing in combat to Loki.The logic of what is happening and why is established, and we’re sold on the fact theyhadto come together.The Avengersused the faceless army trope with the Chitauri, much likeJustice League, but the trailer didn’t only show scenes of victory and what passes for humor in the Snyder-verse. The trailer’s editor knew that showing fear and uncertainty was the best way to pull the audience in. They need to have something to overcome for the film to be interesting.Justice Leaguedoesn’t give us that at all, andSpider-Man’strailer did so by lowering the stakes due to the fact he’s entering a mature cinematic universe with existing characters who are more than able to take care of these situations without him. He has to provehimself to Iron Man and the world at large as much as he has to fight Vulture, and it’s going to be fascinating to see how the movie removes Iron Man from the situation to give Spider-Man an excuse to step back in and takecare of things, thus proving himself to The Avengers and setting up 15 sequels and blah blah blah. We know where the story is going, but at least the trailer attempts to get us invested inthe arc of the character.Marvel changed the tone of Spider-Man from existing movies in its universe, and addressed the fact that heroes already exist and finding a way to keep the film tense is going to require at least a bit of imagination. Keeping Spider-Man’s largest struggle emotional is a good way to do this, butJustice Leaguehas yet to figure out a way to get audiences to care about the film’s story without simply using their existing love of these characters.
You should have put the link from Vox/Polygon so that peeps will not think you wrote this. The author/blogger that wrote this article is inherently silly and daft. His Marvel/Disney bias got the best of him and his hatred for the DCEU is ridiculously obvious and venomous. His arguments are so puerile because the new Spiderman trailer is the second trailer. Besides, that trailer already revealed much of the movies premise and plot points. He should have just titled his article "Why I love the new Spiderman trailer". These kind of people already have their negative reviews written down somewhere before the movie premieres. |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by TonySpike: 7:56am On Mar 29, 2017 |
Shittaakeem:
seriously what the Bleep is wrong with you. Why do u have to drag marvel fans into your shit ranting. Last time time checked its the neutrals(comicbook fans) who made complaints the most. besides we got our own shit to deal with. Iron fist got a 12% rating on rt you don't see us blaming DC fans.
PS stop being a cry baby. Well, the writer of the article should take the blame. He started a comparison where there should not be any. How can you be comparing two trailers and extrapolating the characters thereof. On the other hand, Iron Fist is just a TV series and not a movie. So, the losses are minimal for both Netflix and Marvel. So cheer up, Bro. |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by MJBOLT: 8:59am On Mar 29, 2017 |
another crybaby spotted,you guys can't go a day with tagging marvel or is it marvel that's complaining about the JL trailer 1 Like |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by TonySpike: 9:13am On Mar 29, 2017 |
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Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by TonySpike: 2:46pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Brand New! #WonderWoman |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by TonySpike: 2:46pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Brand New #WonderWoman |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by TonySpike: 2:53pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
Hahahaha! #Batman jokes |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by TonySpike: 3:10pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
#Batman Jokes |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by JennyOfOldstones(f): 10:08pm On Mar 29, 2017 |
kryptonian1987: I am totally convinced now that there is not Zack Snyder and DCEU can do to please those marveltards extremists. The last time I checked; it was all about Wonder Woman's ampits....lol! Now it's about JL trailer to SM: Homecoming trailer! Ehya! this marveltards no go kill us with their hates and sentiments towards DCEU!
ow Spider-Man avoided the worst mistake of the Justice League trailer52commentsWhat are we afraid of?byBen KucheraMar 28, 2017, 4:00pm EDTtweetsharepinPeter Parker and Iron Man bond over being superheroesSonyToday’sSpider-Man: Homecomingtrailer did a lot of things right, although it also kind of gave away the entirety of the film in doing so. But one of the best aspects of the trailer is that it set up thestakes of the film, including antagonists both internal and external.This is an area where theJustice Leaguetrailer completely falls apart; it struggles to find any reason for the viewer to care about what’s going on, nor does it justify why these heroes areteaming up.Spider-Man’sexternal villain is Vulture,but the real bad guy here is Spider-Man’s own eagerness and lack of experience. He wants to use his newly acquired suit to save the city, even though Tony Stark warns him that job is best left to the older and more experienced heroes. It looks as though the suit is actually taken away during the course of the movie, making Spider-Man mirror that horrible gamingtrope where you’re given all your powers at the beginning of the game only to lose them and spend the next few hours gaining them back.The good news is that we know what the stakes are. Vulture doesn’t care if he kills people, but those people may be saved by the existing heroes even if Spider-Man stays home. It doesn’t seem as if the world itself is in jeopardy; Vulture is a contained threat with a limited ability to hurt others who is fighting against heroes who are already in place. Spider-Man himself seems a bit redundant, even though we’re of course cheering for him to prove himself to Stark. Who hasn’t felt inadequate in front of a parental figure?This conflict is relatively small for a superhero film, which matches the film’s whimsical poster. This sort of arcis refreshing, and it helpsSpider-Man: Homecomingfeel more interesting thanjust being another superhero movie.He’s not fighting his way through a sea of faceless, disposable grunts. He’s either fighting low-level crime or failingto do Iron Man’s job when it comes to dealing with the big bad. We know whatwe’re supposed to be afraid of, and it’s mostly Spider-Man’s emotions. He justwants to grow up and save people, and he’s either slipping up when doing so or being told he’s moving too fast. It’s relatable, which was always the best part of Spider-Man as a character for many of us.To be clear, we don’t know if the story being sold in this trailer is the same story as the movie itself, but for now that’s all we have to go on. The important thing is how well the trailer grabs the audience and gets them interested.Which brings us to theJustice Leaguetrailer.Sorry to keep beating up on Warner Bros. but ...The Justice League trailer does absolutely nothing — outside of very basic fan service — to get us to care about this conflict. The planet or galaxyhangs in the balance, we think, but the trailer relies on the same faceless horde of disposable bad guys that we saw in the Batman dream sequence fromBatman v Superman: Dawn of Justice. Our heroes dutifully beat up the aliens while quipping to each other about this and that, but there never seems to be anything actually at stake.“There’s an attack coming, from far away,” Bruce Wayne says in his heaviest of heavy voices but ... why is that scary? We have a big group of heroes who seems in charge of the situation through the whole trailer. There are no stakes, there is no bad guy to fear and no reason given for whythese characters need to team up. Theyare in control of every situation in the trailer, and there are no character arcs even hinted at. Bruce Wayne is rich, The Flash is fast, and Cyborg is bad CG. They beat up on the would-be Chitauri and that’s that.“There's certainly logic to amassing an army against a super-team, especially on the big screen: It stops your protagonists from looking like bullies (who really wants to watch a five-against-one fight?) while giving each of them something to do simultaneously; it is, after all, harder to temporarily ‘hide’ that characters are present in a scene (or a physical space)onscreen compared with a comic book,”a Hollywood Reporter storyabout the use of faceless drones in superhero films states. “That setting your heroes loose against an army alsoallows for multiple action sequences and the good guys get to look kick-ass and productive without ending the movie too early is just an added bonus.”The problem is that we have no reason to root for our heroes when they don’t seem to have anything to overcome. The speculationis that Superman returns as a bad guy— and that’s cringe inducing for a whole host of reasons — and of coursewe know who the actual bad guy is due to cut scenesand interviews, but the trailer fails to give us any hint of drama or struggle. There should be something big happening to give all these legendary characters a reason to work together, and the best the trailer can do is say bad dudes are on their way. Thanks?The first Avengers trailer made sure to establish the threat first, along with scenes that suggest normal people put up a strong resistance to Loki but failed. Then the team is assembled, andwe see them fighting each other as wellas sometimes losing in combat to Loki.The logic of what is happening and why is established, and we’re sold on the fact theyhadto come together.The Avengersused the faceless army trope with the Chitauri, much likeJustice League, but the trailer didn’t only show scenes of victory and what passes for humor in the Snyder-verse. The trailer’s editor knew that showing fear and uncertainty was the best way to pull the audience in. They need to have something to overcome for the film to be interesting.Justice Leaguedoesn’t give us that at all, andSpider-Man’strailer did so by lowering the stakes due to the fact he’s entering a mature cinematic universe with existing characters who are more than able to take care of these situations without him. He has to provehimself to Iron Man and the world at large as much as he has to fight Vulture, and it’s going to be fascinating to see how the movie removes Iron Man from the situation to give Spider-Man an excuse to step back in and takecare of things, thus proving himself to The Avengers and setting up 15 sequels and blah blah blah. We know where the story is going, but at least the trailer attempts to get us invested inthe arc of the character.Marvel changed the tone of Spider-Man from existing movies in its universe, and addressed the fact that heroes already exist and finding a way to keep the film tense is going to require at least a bit of imagination. Keeping Spider-Man’s largest struggle emotional is a good way to do this, butJustice Leaguehas yet to figure out a way to get audiences to care about the film’s story without simply using their existing love of these characters.
So, in order words, WB should spoil the whole movie using the trailers because they want people to "care". Aren't the motherboxes enough to show as to why they needto to come together? Besides this 'critic" seems to have forgotten a basic premise of the three act trailer sequence: All emotional scenes come in the third act. |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by TonySpike: 1:42pm On Mar 30, 2017 |
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Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Raalsalghul: 7:14am On Mar 31, 2017 |
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Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by TonySpike: 8:31am On Mar 31, 2017 |
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Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by TonySpike: 12:15pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
Joss Whedon is in talks with Warner Bros to produce Batgirl movie. I don't think I like Whedon's movies too much even though they make insane money. I hope DCEU knows what they are doing... |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by Minemrys: 1:34pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
TonySpike: Joss Whedon is in talks with Warner Bros to produce Batgirl movie. I don't think I like Whedon's movies too much even though they make insane money. I hope DCEU knows what they are doing... its prove WB doesn't kn0w what its doing with DC. How can you make films no one cares abt when ur current slate that has got people talking isn't cleared? What happened to the flash film? The shazam or black adam film? Its obvious WB isn't c0nfident with the DCEU. Let them cancel it and make harry potter films instead. |
Re: DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE (FILM) by oseka101(m): 3:46pm On Mar 31, 2017 |
Minemrys:
1st its trailer not thriller. 2nd, Zack isn't responsible for the marketting strategy of the films. WB, the studio is. Its n0t as if the DCEU is Snyder's independent film. Its n0t. Its a studio film. What Snyder does is film it and WB does and decides what to do with the movie. As prove it wasn't snyder that released the trailer, it was wb on their youtube channel. well what can I say you have something against moi well thriller or trailer I know you understand what am saying Mr linguist.... Just for your info its "marketing" not marketting* .....and I had to read ur statement twice to even comprehend what your saying ...... |