potent5:
You people have not learnt your lesson on this Melaye’s case, abi? I think it's this cover of anonymity that's fueling this continued exhibition of joblessness. You want to show your Sherlock Holmes skills abi? Why investigate the murder of Dele and Co?

Does comparing certificates of years 2001 and 2016 make sense? Why not get NYSC certificate of the same year from same state and compare. That way you can be said to have done your homework first unlike Sahara Reporters that did not.

They got a suspicion and instead of investigating it, they rushed to publish half-baked investigative news only for them to start changing their narrative as each claim was being debunked.

nawtyme:

The same point I was trying to explain to someone else in another thread. Why not investigate properly before coming out with facts? And if this is not for a political vendetta, all he would have done was to apologize and retract the statement like they did when they falsely declared that Akpabio lost his senatorial election. First he did not graduate from ABU, then it proceeded to "he got a forged" certificate from there they said he collaborated with his HOD to graduate, then to he stole a television and was impeached from his political post, from there to exam officer saying he didn't meet the criteria for graduation, next they said he gained admission with 3 credits, next he wore a blue short to take a group photo with other Corp members even if there is a guy on that picture with flip-flop, next they said he graduated with 3rd class, next they said his name was missing from the graduation brochure, nest he graduated in 2000 and went for NYSC in 1999, next he had his POP on a Sunday, and now this.
OP a simple sorry would have saved all this mess. And with all this accusations you find ordinary people coming to his rescue.
Please OP tell me the next accusation that you will have to cover up for a media house that would have just said sorry when they discovered that they goofed (because I know they know that they goofed)?
I don't like both parties (Dino and Sahara) but Sahara should be encouraged to be sure of their stories before posting false facts capable of tarnishing people's lives.
Well done Sowore. I wish you escape this one.

ashjay001:


I guess u were/are trying to make sense ba? He was accused of not graduating? He should simply have called a press conference, displayed his statement of results and explain he is just about to apply for his certificate! Dazzol!

Not posting inaccurate pictures of a visit to camp in "99, or dragging a whole VC to come and defend d result of an individual to d senate! The school should also have released a prompt statement on his graduation status, and explain why his name cant be found on its alumni site!
Dazzol!

U dont go dancing shamelessly, doing ntoor, releasing misleading info or even wearing an academic gown, meant for pple who have reached d pinnacle of academic acheivements!

nawtyme:

The same point I was trying to explain to someone else in another thread. Why not investigate properly before coming out with facts? And if this is not for a political vendetta, all he would have done was to apologize and retract the statement like they did when they falsely declared that Akpabio lost his senatorial election. First he did not graduate from ABU, then it proceeded to "he got a forged" certificate from there they said he collaborated with his HOD to graduate, then to he stole a television and was impeached from his political post, from there to exam officer saying he didn't meet the criteria for graduation, next they said he gained admission with 3 credits, next he wore a blue short to take a group photo with other Corp members even if there is a guy on that picture with flip-flop, next they said he graduated with 3rd class, next they said his name was missing from the graduation brochure, nest he graduated in 2000 and went for NYSC in 1999, next he had his POP on a Sunday, and now this.
OP a simple sorry would have saved all this mess. And with all this accusations you find ordinary people coming to his rescue.
Please OP tell me the next accusation that you will have to cover up for a media house that would have just said sorry when they discovered that they goofed (because I know they know that they goofed)?
I don't like both parties (Dino and Sahara) but Sahara should be encouraged to be sure of their stories before posting false facts capable of tarnishing people's lives.
Well done Sowore. I wish you escape this one.

nawtyme:

OP a simple sorry would have saved all this mess. And with all this accusations you find ordinary people coming to his rescue.
Please OP tell me the next accusation that you will have to cover up for a media house that would have just said sorry when they discovered that they goofed (because I know they know that they goofed)

potent5:

Does comparing certificates of years 2001 and 2016 make sense? Why not get NYSC certificate of the same year from same state and compare. That way you can be said to have done your homework first unlike Sahara Reporters that did not.

DesChyko:



I don't think you understand my destination. I'm saying the evidence that the missing line showed the certificate was doctored is not true because the same line missing in his was also missing in mine and the reason is not far fetched.
The certificates must have been produced in batches so that it can be used for different years. I'm not a fan of half-baked journalism and have stated on numerous occasions.

ashjay001:


I guess u were/are trying to make sense ba? He was accused of not graduating? He should simply have called a press conference, displayed his statement of results and explain he is just about to apply for his certificate! Dazzol!

Not posting inaccurate pictures of a visit to camp in "99, or dragging a whole VC to come and defend d result of an individual to d senate! The school should also have released a prompt statement on his graduation status, and explain why his name cant be found on its alumni site!
Dazzol!

U dont go dancing shamelessly, doing ntoor, releasing misleading info or even wearing an academic gown, meant for pple who have reached d pinnacle of academic acheivements!

DesChyko:



I don't think you understand my destination. I'm saying the evidence that the missing line showed the certificate was doctored is not true because the same line missing in his was also missing in mine and the reason is not far fetched.
The certificates must have been produced in batches so that it can be used for different years. I'm not a fan of half-baked journalism and have stated on numerous occasions.

nawtyme:

Our president was accused of not having an SSCE certificate before the election. Did he call for a press conference to display his certificate?
After he won the election he was taken to court for not having an SSCE certificate, did he call a press conference to display the result?
Which one is better, hiring over 50 SANs to defend him in court, giving the judge incharge of the case (Justice Ademola) 500k for his father's burial and inviting the VC to the Senate as recommended by Ndume, plus rejoicing that he political enemies to shame?
My dear, Sahara should swallow the humble pill and apologize. No one is above mistakes, not trying to cover up a lie with more lies.
Cheers to you as I don't expect a reply from you.

ashjay001:


Since when did PMB become Dino Melaye? Do two wrongs make a right?

So, as long as someone else got it wrong, u're allowed to get urs wrong?

Our President has not been able to wash off his his certificate scandal, because of d way it was handled, now, u, a supposedly educated intellectual, think there is nothing wrong with Dino, towing d same path?

Make I rest!

nawtyme:

What part did Dino tow? He said he has 7 certificates and Sahara reporters successfully subtracted 2 of those certificates and goofed on the third one. Dino did not break any law as he has the necessary qualifications to contest for the position he occupies. I brought up the President because you talked about holding a press conference. Ask your president to also hold a conference and display his certificate.
What is good for the goose is good for the gander.

ashjay001:


Mr Defender, which university will accept ur 3rd class without a PGD? Before d law, Dino's credibility has already been called into question, once two of his claimed degrees have been found to be fabricated!

Dino himself posted his 1999 camp appearance!? Yet, he graduated in 2000?!

My President got an affidavit to claim his certificates where missing. His secondary school gave him a printout of his statement. The foreign body(Cambridge) that conducted d exams, accepted n confirmed that he sat for d exams!? The fact that he sat for d exams means he got/has a certificate, irrespective of d fact that he failed/passed all his papers!?

Which part of that has not satisfied all righteousness?!

nawtyme:

You said Dino should have called a press conference, and I asked you if the president called for a press conference during his own saga?
Is his educational requirement satisfactory to contest for the position he occupies or is it credibility that qualify him to contest?
Get your facts right brother, I am not defending Dino as I don't like him personally. But I am against junk journalism and hypocrisy.

ashjay001:



U brought in PMB's case?!

He could have used his waec, but he had to use his BSc, which isnt standing up to deep scrutiny! Journalism will always ask questions, u defend urself or u bow out(honourably if u can)

PMB has been using his affidavit forever, but when journalism n hypocrisy asked questions of him, he answered to d best of his abilities!

Dino is an unrepentant, in ur face liar!? Comparing his case to PMB's, is like nite n day! PMB has not laid claim to what he doesnt have!

nawtyme:

Sahara reporters said he didn't graduate. And went further to try to cover up such lies with more lies which has been the subject matter and not about his morality (at least we all know that they are all immoral and heartless liars). Now the question is, when it's been proven that you lied or made a mistake, why whip up sentiments and lie further? Simply apologize and move on. Then leave the other facts that you have unraveled to affect his credibility when he goes to the poll again.

nawtyme:

You said Dino should have called a press conference, and I asked you if the president called for a press conference during his own saga?
Is his educational requirement satisfactory to contest for the position he occupies or is it credibility that qualify him to contest?
Get your facts right brother, I am not defending Dino as I don't like him personally. But I am against junk journalism and hypocrisy.

MalcoImX:
The issue is not whether he's qualified to contest or not, but that fraudulent acts were deemed to have been committed in the way a first degree was obtained.

ashjay001:


I always try to keep an open mind. We cant see d view from SR's stand. Dino is not helping matters by flip-floping all over! ABU is hiding something! And until it becomes public knowledge, I keep my fingers crossed!

nawtyme:

I don't think I agree with you. A writer's aim is to covey his thoughts, ideas, reasoning and perspective in paper. If as a press body they write something different from what they see or know (what ever their aim may be) then that is the junk journalism we are talking about. They could write figuratively and leave it for those who understand to understand while still passing their message across. I want them to expose Dino if actually he didn't graduate. Before the whole saga started, they would have obtained copies of his grades and scores from Zaria as they have obtained even other classified information. With that they can lay claim to whatever. Let them go to court and explain themselves, and like I said earlier "I wish he escapes this one"

ashjay001:


See girammar! Is either u're playing mind games or u actually are ignorant?!

SR posted his final semester results! Neither Dino nor d school refuted it! They didnt even counter it with d real/actual results! In that result, SR pasted, he failed several several courses! Yet, d VC left those unreplied n placed his integrity on d line?!

The truth is, we live in a dysfunctional country. It took hours for actual universities to confirm d status of Dino as a graduate or not! But, it took ABU's VC, several days and d audience of d Senate, to confirm Dino's status?!

If u think Dino is innocent, thats ur prerogative, enjoy! But, d truth is, he n ABU, havent satisfactorily answered the questions being asked of them!

KHAYGOLD:
July 8, 2001 happens to be on Sunday. Has POP ever been shifted to sunday before?