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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 1:23am On Mar 31, 2017
schwarzkopf:
Trouble sleep yanga wake it... In the black president voice!!! Gen Flynn wanna testify in exchange for immunity.. so people in Washington are def gonna have dysentery tonight.
Let me quote republicans on Hillary's private email server when two of her staffers who set up the email server got immunity before they testify before the House. In this case their only criminality was setting up a private email server for the Secretary which by facts isn't illegal but unethical.

Republicans asked, "Why are they getting immunity deals if they didn't do anything wrong?. Flynn is the key to bringing Trump down, he keeps giving.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 1:37am On Mar 31, 2017

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 4:25am On Mar 31, 2017
ValerianSteel:
Why do I even bother with you for bleeps sake angry angry angry

This was debunked during the campaign and the transcripts of her speech clearly stated "We aren't going to raise taxes on the middle class".

Read her positions:
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/a-fair-tax-system/

Restore basic fairness to our tax code.

Hillary will implement a “fair share surcharge” on multi-millionaires and billionaires and fight for measures like the Buffett Rule to ensure the wealthiest Americans do not pay a lower tax rate than hardworking middle-class families.

She’ll close loopholes that create a private tax system for the most fortunate, and she’ll ensure multi-million-dollar estates are paying their fair share of taxes. Read the fact sheet.

Close corporate and Wall Street tax loopholes and invest in America.

Hillary will close tax loopholes like inversions that reward companies for shifting profits and jobs overseas. She will charge an “exit tax” for companies leaving the U.S. to settle up on their untaxed foreign earnings.

She will close tax loopholes that let Wall Street money managers pay lower rates than some middle-class families. And she’ll reward businesses that invest in good-paying jobs here in the United States. Read the fact sheet.

Simplify and cut taxes for small businesses so they can hire and grow.

The smallest businesses, with one to five employees, spend 150 hours and $1,100 per employee on federal tax compliance. That’s more than 20 times higher than the average for far larger firms. We’ve got to fix that.

Provide tax relief to working families from the rising costs they face.

For too many years, middle-class families have been squeezed by rising costs for everything from child care to health care to affording college.

Hillary will offer relief from these rising costs, including tax relief for Americans facing excessive out-of-pocket health care costs and for those caring for an ill or elderly family member.

Pay for ambitious investments in a fiscally responsible way.

Hillary believes that we can afford to pay for ambitious, progressive investments in good-paying jobs, debt-free college, and other measures to strengthen growth, broaden opportunity, and reduce inequality.

Hillary will use the proceeds from ensuring the wealthiest and the largest corporations pay their fair share to pay for these investments without adding to the debt.
That's what I was trying to tell the caveman that the video was doctored. It's meaningless arguing with a brainwashed fool like obixcel.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 4:30am On Mar 31, 2017
oyb:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/michael-flynn-testimony_us_58dd889fe4b0e6ac7093b323?5m79oc7olzxhl4n29&

more fake news for missy89 cheesy cheesy cheesy
Missy and her fellow Trump's lapdogs are in hibernation now since Russiangate is in full mode now with General Mike Flynn seeking immunity before he testify in Congress. I have always said Russiangate is Whitewater gate in the making. People will start flipping and snitching when the time comes before they are not going to jail for anyone not to talk of a worthless President.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 5:10am On Mar 31, 2017
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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by schwarzkopf(m): 5:18am On Mar 31, 2017
Gyalchester:

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Adesiji77: 5:54am On Mar 31, 2017

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Adesiji77: 6:11am On Mar 31, 2017

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 7:08am On Mar 31, 2017
Gyalchester:

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I can only Mrs Lucabalo having a heart attack when she goes through the vile posts of her husband.
Junebug, always changing your moniker. Are you afraid of your own shadow ?.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by TheShopKeeper(m): 9:00am On Mar 31, 2017
Adesiji77:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/mike-flynn-offers-to-testify-in-exchange-for-immunity-1490912959?mod=e2fb

...and so the canary starts to sing.

it has been said so many times that Gen Flynn will eventually sing, he won't want to take all the blame all to himself...let's see how Trump and White House will spin and call this 'fake news'...

...even Faux News carried the news...http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/30/flynn-in-talks-to-testify-in-trump-russia-probe-if-assured-immunity.html

...asking for 'immunity' suggests that probably a criminal offence has been committed...

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 12:08pm On Mar 31, 2017
TheShopKeeper:


...and so the canary starts to sing.

it has been said so many times that Gen Flynn will eventually sing, he won't want to take all the blame all to himself...let's see how Trump and White House will spin and call this 'fake news'...

...even Faux News carried the news...http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/30/flynn-in-talks-to-testify-in-trump-russia-probe-if-assured-immunity.html

...asking for 'immunity' suggests that probably a criminal offence has been committed...

When Flynn was fired one spin at the time was that it was a strategic move to find out who the leakers are in the White House. Don't be surprised if the new spin is that Flynn was a Russian spy that's why Trump fired him.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 12:44pm On Mar 31, 2017
LordReed:


When Flynn was fired one spin at the time was that it was a strategic move to find out who the leakers are in the White House. Don't be surprised if the new spin is that Flynn was a Russian spy that's why Trump fired him.
While I myself support his quest for immunity to shield himself, don't jump to conclusions and don't get your hopes too high, You may be really surprised at the end. No one knows the content of his testimony of what he's about to testify, it could go either way. Let the immunity be granted to him.

WASHINGTON — The attorney representing President Trump’s former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn said late Thursday that his client would not submit to questioning in the ongoing investigations into Russian interference in the 2016 election without protection against possible prosecution.
No reasonable person, who has the benefit of advice from counsel, would submit to questioning in such a highly politicized, witch-hunt environment without assurances against unfair prosecution,” Attorney Robert Kelner said in a written statement.
Describing his client as the target of “unsubstantiated public demands by members of congress and other political critics that he be criminally investigated,” Kelner confirmed that there have been “discussions” regarding Flynn’s possible appearances before the House and Senate Intelligence committees now conducting formal inquires into Russia’s attempts to disrupt the American political system.
Gen. Flynn certainly has a story to tell, and he very much wants to tell it, should the circumstances permit,” Kelner said. “Out of respect for the committees, we will not comment right now on the details of discussions between counsel for Gen. Flynn and the . . . committees.”
''The implication is clearly that we’re in a “witch-hunt environment” and he wants immunity as an assurance “against unfair prosecution.”

Despite the above, On the flip side, what's funny and interesting is that Flynn had said in the past ''People Granted Immunity ‘Probably Have Committed A Crime grin grin grin

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 2:04pm On Mar 31, 2017
schwarzkopf:


These repulicunts answer to the $ and don't care about screwing y'all. Good luck with your potential employers knowing about your pervasiveness for x-rated resources.



It was parody i don't watch it but you also good luck with your prospective bosses finding out how you waste the company's data on NL.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 2:07pm On Mar 31, 2017
Lucasbalo:
Junebug, always changing your moniker. Are you afraid of your own shadow ?.



The end justifies the means.I
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by TheShopKeeper(m): 2:14pm On Mar 31, 2017
obixcel:
While I myself support his quest for immunity to shield himself, don't jump to conclusions and don't get your hopes too high, You may be really surprised at the end. No one knows the content of his testimony of what he's about to testify, it could go either way. Let the immunity be granted to him.

But the good news is this article is now out, and will send the others (Manafort, Page, Stone, etc) into a panic. They will probably be trying to beat each other to the finish line to cut their own deals. The first one to turn gets the best and sometimes only deal.

As we know who Manafort is:
1) he was running Trump's campaign at a key point (changing the RNC platform to be Russia friendly)
2) he was apparently active in laundering money for the Russians
3) he had prior experience working for Putin in destabilising countries (Ukraine for example)


https://twitter.com/robkelner

a letter by Counsel (Lawyer) to Gen Flynn

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 2:22pm On Mar 31, 2017
TheShopKeeper:


But the good news is this article is now out, and will send the others (Manafort, Page, Stone, etc) into a panic. They will probably be trying to beat each other to the finish line to cut their own deals. The first one to turn gets the best and sometimes only deal.

As we know who Manafort is:
1) he was running Trump's campaign at a key point (changing the RNC platform to be Russia friendly)
2) he was apparently active in laundering money for the Russians
3) he had prior experience working for Putin in destabilising countries (Ukraine for example)


https://twitter.com/robkelner

a letter by Counsel (Lawyer) to Gen Flynn
I won't be surprised if others follow, the truth is that the environment is so politically charged so everyone would want assurances of not becoming the fall guy from whatever results from or in the process of testifying.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by TheShopKeeper(m): 2:46pm On Mar 31, 2017
Here's a video from "Meet the press" - MSNBC, about Gen Flynn in September 2016, where he said "When you are given immunity, that means that you have probably committed a crime."

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/847602236616089600

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 2:47pm On Mar 31, 2017
TheShopKeeper:


But the good news is this article is now out, and will send the others (Manafort, Page, Stone, etc) into a panic. They will probably be trying to beat each other to the finish line to cut their own deals. The first one to turn gets the best and sometimes only deal.

As we know who Manafort is:
1) he was running Trump's campaign at a key point (changing the RNC platform to be Russia friendly)
2) he was apparently active in laundering money for the Russians
3) he had prior experience working for Putin in destabilising countries (Ukraine for example)


https://twitter.com/robkelner

a letter by Counsel (Lawyer) to Gen Flynn
I have been saying that for weeks knowing American physche as well as I do, Americans would not take a fall for anyone not even a worthless president. The same thing happened with Nixon during Watergate when John Dean his Chief Counsel flipped on him and Nixon was eventually forced to resign as a president which is first in American history. Russiagate is loading my friend. It will take a while for everything to open up. The new thing now is that a lot of Republicons are fed up with trump but they are keeping mute for now out of party loyalty.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 2:54pm On Mar 31, 2017
obixcel:
I won't be surprised if others follow, the truth is that the environment is so politically charged so everyone would want assurances of not becoming the fall guy from whatever results from or in the process of testifying.
That is the American way . I have always told you Americans will snitch on you in a second. I know. that for sure. It's just the beginning. That's how watergate started when Nixon people started opening up and the whole country turned against Nixon and he had to resign. Nixon approval rating at the height of watergate is higher than trump now. You have to be here to see how unpopular trump is. Running a country is different from running a business. Keep watching because soon trump fellow republicans will be running away from the titanic so they won't be brought down when another congressional elections comes up in 2018. That's the American way my friend.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 4:00pm On Mar 31, 2017
obixcel:
While I myself support his quest for immunity to shield himself, don't jump to conclusions and don't get your hopes too high, You may be really surprised at the end. No one knows the content of his testimony of what he's about to testify, it could go either way. Let the immunity be granted to him.

WASHINGTON — The attorney representing President Trump’s former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn said late Thursday that his client would not submit to questioning in the ongoing investigations into Russian interference in the 2016 election without protection against possible prosecution.
No reasonable person, who has the benefit of advice from counsel, would submit to questioning in such a highly politicized, witch-hunt environment without assurances against unfair prosecution,” Attorney Robert Kelner said in a written statement.
Describing his client as the target of “unsubstantiated public demands by members of congress and other political critics that he be criminally investigated,” Kelner confirmed that there have been “discussions” regarding Flynn’s possible appearances before the House and Senate Intelligence committees now conducting formal inquires into Russia’s attempts to disrupt the American political system.
Gen. Flynn certainly has a story to tell, and he very much wants to tell it, should the circumstances permit,” Kelner said. “Out of respect for the committees, we will not comment right now on the details of discussions between counsel for Gen. Flynn and the . . . committees.”
''The implication is clearly that we’re in a “witch-hunt environment” and he wants immunity as an assurance “against unfair prosecution.”

Despite the above, On the flip side, what's funny and interesting is that Flynn had said in the past ''People Granted Immunity ‘Probably Have Committed A Crime grin grin grin

The last part is exactly why I think this might be spined into a Flynn Russian Spy narrative by either the Trump administration or his supporters.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by ValerianSteel(m): 5:51pm On Mar 31, 2017
Senate Intelligence Committee rejects immunity deal for Mike Flynn.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by obixcel(m): 5:59pm On Mar 31, 2017
Lucasbalo:
That is the American way . I have always told you Americans will snitch on you in a second. I know. that for sure. It's just the beginning. That's how watergate started when Nixon people started opening up and the whole country turned against Nixon and he had to resign. Nixon approval rating at the height of watergate is higher than trump now. You have to be here to see how unpopular trump is. Running a country is different from running a business. Keep watching because soon trump fellow republicans will be running away from the titanic so they won't be brought down when another congressional elections comes up in 2018. That's the American way my friend.
All these your babblings and rants about Nixongate and whatever gate u are looking for are just fantasy. You losers won't accept that the reason your candidate lost was because she was corrupt and part of the establishment and hence rejected, and I ask again, Did Russia influence or interfered in the election to the extent of giving your candidate the popular vote? We will see to the bottom of this Russia investigation, I assure you, at the end you will be shocked, and all these rantings similar to the pre-election noise making would cease.
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 6:09pm On Mar 31, 2017
obixcel:
All these your babblings and rants about Nixongate and whatever gate u are looking for are just fantasy. You losers won't accept that the reason your candidate lost was because she was corrupt and part of the establishment and hence rejected, and I ask again, Did Russia influence or interfered in the election to the extent of giving your candidate the popular vote? We will see to the bottom of this Russia investigation, I assure you, at the end you will be shocked, and all these rantings similar to the pre-election noise making would cease.
I don't expect a sheepish clown like you to understand how things work outside your cave. Been a student of American politics since I was a little boy unlike you just googling your way through a country you have no clue about. Like I said, you are a servile dog to the right wing hate groups.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 6:12pm On Mar 31, 2017
ValerianSteel:
Senate Intelligence Committee rejects immunity deal for Mike Flynn.
Good, wait till Manafort and the rest flipping their allegiance to trump. You and I know that Americans would flip on a dime instead of going to jail for a no good , narcissistic president.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 11:58pm On Mar 31, 2017
obixcel:
All these your babblings and rants about Nixongate and whatever gate u are looking for are just fantasy. You losers won't accept that the reason your candidate lost was because she was corrupt and part of the establishment and hence rejected, and I ask again, Did Russia influence or interfered in the election to the extent of giving your candidate the popular vote? We will see to the bottom of this Russia investigation, I assure you, at the end you will be shocked, and all these rantings similar to the pre-election noise making would cease.

Dude stop displaying ignorance. There is already hard evidence that Russia interfered. What is being investigated is possible collusion from the Trump team.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 3:20am On Apr 01, 2017
obixcel:
I won't be surprised if others follow, the truth is that the environment is so politically charged so everyone would want assurances of not becoming the fall guy from whatever results from or in the process of testifying.
They sure don't want to be a fall guy for your worthless egomaniac lord.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 3:24am On Apr 01, 2017
LordReed:


Dude stop displaying ignorance. There is already hard evidence that Russia interfered. What is being investigated is possible collusion from the Trump team.
Obixcel and ignorance are twins. Expecting something sensible from him is like waiting for an elephant to fly. I don't know the kind of allegiance he's got for mr trump that he couldn't reason with the facts in front of him. The guy is a joke.

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 9:44am On Apr 01, 2017
@paschu

Trump has businesses in 25 different countries, how is he not a globalist?

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 10:06am On Apr 01, 2017
LordReed:
@paschu

Trump has businesses in 25 different countries, how is he not a globalist?

dude stop these alternative facts na
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by paschu: 12:31pm On Apr 01, 2017
1. Trump has no SERIOUS investment abroad that he does not already have in the US.

2. Just merely having multiple foreign investments does not make you a globalist except when those investments begin to harm your nation's domestic economy and you DO NOT CARE.

3. You are a globalist when you seek to supress or compromise the unique culture and development of your nation just to please foreigners.

LordReed:
@paschu

Trump has businesses in 25 different countries, how is he not a globalist?

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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 12:31pm On Apr 01, 2017
oyb:


dude stop these alternative facts na


Huh? How is it alternative facts?
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 12:34pm On Apr 01, 2017
paschu:
1. Trump has no SERIOUS investment abroad that he does not already have in the US.

2. Just merely having multiple foreign investments does not make you a globalist except when those investments begin to harm your nation's domestic economy and you DO NOT CARE.

3. You are a globalist when you seek to supress or compromise the unique culture and development of your nation just to please foreigners.


So him doing manufacturing in China is good for the US?

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