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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:13am On Apr 01, 2017
tbaba1234:


One of the best in the league. He was a midfielder before he became a striker so the hype was not from goals scored. He later became top scorer for Sharks when he became a striker. To say, he was not considered one of the best players in the league is not true. The article below lists him as one of the best players in the 2013-2014 season.

http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/03/495216/



The article said no such thing, it is about players to watch, it said that very clearly. Players to watch are not always the best in the league. For example a La Liga players to watch list will rarely have the Messi's or Ronaldo, the list will always try to give players that everyone might not know. He wasn't that productive as a winger so that's a big no no to say he was the best. U need to spend more time getting to know the NPFL and less time bashing the only top flight league ur country has, so what it isn't perfect, it is still a place that u can work on ur craft.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:15am On Apr 01, 2017
Icon4s:


Yes. And let Thiago Ilori play CB, let Ajagun play AM, Sheyi Ojo and Ademola Lookman will play from the wings while Solanke spare-head the attack.

And forgiveness will be the coach.

Do you have any problem with these players?

Don't worry in ya very eyes these players will wear the green and white Jersey as you have some did lately. grin

I hope you no go....... grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:20am On Apr 01, 2017
forgiveness:


Do you have any problem with these players?

Don't worry in ya very eyes these players will wear the green and white Jersey as you have some did lately. grin

I hope you no go....... grin

Lol!

No but wait. Is it not funny?

You have become so predictable bc u keep saying the same thing all over and over again.

I have just listed for u ur fantasy team. Lol!
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 11:20am On Apr 01, 2017
ChrisKels:
Athletico Madrid agrees deal for Nigeria's Iheanacho. A replacement for outgoing Antoine Greizman

Iheanacho to leave mancity in search of regular first team action next season...

Cc: tuto marca 's lirpa loof

You no try at all gringrin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 11:21am On Apr 01, 2017
terzurum5:


I met a foreigner early last year, we discussed on so many issues. He told me that he has worked with some people from a particular state who where very honest. "He now believes that anyone from that State is honest."

These generalisations do not always prove to true.

What does this have to do with the age of Pogba?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:25am On Apr 01, 2017
forgiveness:


Do you have any problem with these players?

Don't worry in ya very eyes these players will wear the green and white Jersey as you have some did lately. grin

I hope you no go....... grin

Yes wear the green and white jersey but dem don play? Lol!

The two new debutant in that Senegal friendly were two illustrious sons of our rich youth system. Kayode and Success-two hot strikers in their U17 and U20 days.

Why Rohr dey fear to put Ebuehi for that Senegal game na? Lol!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:25am On Apr 01, 2017
Icon4s:


Lol!

No but wait. Is it not funny?

You have become so predictable bc u keep saying the same thing all over and over again.

I have just listed for u ur fantasy team. Lol!


That is what I call FAITH.

Predicting things and seeing things happening. grin

Almost all the players I have faith in so far are making the team but na you be d antagonist. grin

The reason you can't celebrate the recent happenings. grin

Soon those players you listed will be given the chance to prove themselves. grin

Just clear your mind and free ya soul. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:29am On Apr 01, 2017
Icon4s:


Yes wear the green and white jersey but dem don play? Lol!

The two new debutant in that Senegal friendly were two illustrious sons of our rich youth system. Kayode and Success-two hot strikers in their U17 and U20 days.

Why Rohr dey fear to put Ebuehi for that Senegal game na? Lol!



Wait and see! grin

Besides, na friendly, Rohr needed not to fear. grin

If not for the cancelled friendly match against Burkina Faso, dem for play wella. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:36am On Apr 01, 2017
forgiveness:



That is what I call FAITH.

Predicting things and seeing things happening. grin

Almost all the players I have faith in so far are making the team but na you be d antagonist. grin

The reason you can't celebrate the recent happenings. grin

Soon those players you listed will be given the chance to prove themselves. grin

Just clear your mind and free ya soul. grin

In fact I am really happy that some of them joined in training of recent. At least Rohr would assess them first hand and sieve out only the ones that will be ale to COMPETE for space in the team.

I am am open minded person but not the type that would want to pull down what I already have on ground in a bid to get what I am not sure of.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:40am On Apr 01, 2017
forgiveness:


What? shocked shocked seriously!

So, such things are happening behind the scenes. Na wa ooooooo.

Like you rightly said, Iorfa to me is a better center half.

When he played there last season he did very well.

Your last paragraph is a very good idea but will one or two players be given the chance to slug it out with the U17 and U20 players in the camp here in Nigeria?

Because those coaches like..... grin

To avoid that situation it's more practical to run a camp here get your best 18 and then let them play the home based team in Nigeria. That would enable them to become more orientated with Nigerian norms and values and create a reconnect for those disconnected from thier Fatherland.

That would be interesting also no need for MRI for those coming from countries with automatic birth date data capture.

From both teams select the best, playing against them against each other creates healthy competitive rivalry.
Although to some it may seem controversial.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:46am On Apr 01, 2017
Icon4s:


In fact I am really happy that some of them joined in training of recent. At least Rohr would assess them first hand and sieve out only the ones that will be ale to COMPETE for space in the team.

I am am open minded person but not the type that would want to pull down what I already have on ground in a bid to get what I am not sure of.

How can you pull down what is not on ground?

We don't have a team on ground yet because most of these players don't have up to 10 caps.

We are still building hence the need to bring in players to slug it out with the ones in the team. grin

It is a team in progress. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:47am On Apr 01, 2017
Icon4s:


In fact I am really happy that some of them joined in training of recent. At least Rohr would assess them first hand and sieve out only the ones that will be ale to COMPETE for space in the team.

I am am open minded person but not the type that would want to pull down what I already have on ground in a bid to get what I am not sure of.

I know it's possible to have players who are not performing for thier clubs perform wonders for the national team.

In general that is exception as opposed to the norm. We can see how Musa who is an exceptional player has lost his way somewhat. His torrid season with Leicester and poor club form are now affecting him negatively. And he is struggling in the national team.

However, this is not surprising the EPL can be a hard nut to crack and he will not be the first or last to experience these problems. We cannot really make an assessment until next year which will be his second season in which he should have settled down and adapted his game to the rigours of the EPL.

What I am saying club form and your performance are linked all things being equal. Rohr needs to look at all those variables club form, league quality, player opportunities, club quality, etc

Aina for instance in any other club would be a regular in the EPL. I fear for Tega Abrahams the political climate is going to put immense pressure on him to play for England. Add to that the rhetoric around BREXIT as well as the Zaha issue.

There is cold fact and reality playing for England adds millions to your brand and I don't mean naira. In terms of endorsement, marketing, even transfer value.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:48am On Apr 01, 2017
forgiveness:



Wait and see! grin

Besides, na friendly, Rohr needed not to fear. grin

If not for the cancelled friendly match against Burkina Faso, dem for play wella. grin

Lol!

Even the Alex Iwobi that has been proven and tested we dey fear about his ability to cope with the physicality against Cameroun.

Are u telling me u dnt know abt the physical demands associated with playing typical African oppositions?

Lol. Rohr knows what he is doing. He has worked in Africa long enough.

You dnt know the implication of maintaining the same back line we used against Algeria?

He is beginning to have faith in that back line and building consistency and may just b looking for back ups. Omeruo is Nigeria's new RB.
Troost and Balogun are our confirmed CB duo while Echiejile has snatched back that LB position.

Allowing those English born players train with the team is good. Firstly for sense of belonging and also a couple of them may turn out to be great additions to the squad.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:54am On Apr 01, 2017
komekn:


To avoid that situation it's more practical to run a camp here get your best 18 and then let them play the home based team in Nigeria. That would enable them to become more orientated with Nigerian norms and values and create a reconnect for those disconnected from thier Fatherland.

That would be interesting also no need for MRI for those coming from countries with automatic birth date data capture.

From both teams select the best, playing against them against each other creates healthy competitive rivalry.
Although to some it may seem controversial.


This is a very very good idea but, who will finance their trip to Nigeria?

Are the coaching crew going to look thier way since no..? grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:02pm On Apr 01, 2017
forgiveness:


What? shocked shocked seriously!

So, such things are happening behind the scenes. Na wa ooooooo.

Like you rightly said, Iorfa to me is a better center half.

When he played there last season he did very well.

Your last paragraph is a very good idea but will one or two players be given the chance to slug it out with the U17 and U20 players in the camp here in Nigeria?

Because those coaches like..... grin

I think, home based should be given a priority for under 17 because it is a good chance for exposure. That is the best chance for exposure for many talents. Exceptional foreign stars can join so as to keep them committed to Nigeria in the future.

For under 20, we should just look for the best.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:04pm On Apr 01, 2017
Icon4s:


Lol!

Even the Alex Iwobi that has been proven and tested we dey fear about his ability to cope with the physicality against Cameroun.

Are u telling me u dnt know abt the physical demands associated with playing typical African oppositions?

Lol. Rohr knows what he is doing. He has worked in Africa long enough.

You dnt know the implication of maintaining the same back line we used against Algeria?

He is beginning to have faith in that back line and building consistency and may just b looking for back ups. Omeruo is Nigeria's new RB.
Troost and Balogun are our confirmed CB duo while Echiejile has snatched back that LB position.

Allowing those English born players train with the team is good. Firstly for sense of belonging and also a couple of them may turn out to be great additions to the squad.




Alex Iwobi problem started with Arsenal. He is not currently playing well and I understood he is not taking his career too seriously.

The match against the Senegal wasn't that physical. We knocked the ball around some few times.

Leon and Troost are confirmed CB duo because we don't have players to contend with them.

Once, Felix Uduokhai and Torunarigha agrees to play for us they will have good players to contend with.

Omeruo wasn't in the team A that played with the team B in the practice match. That is sending signal to... grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:05pm On Apr 01, 2017
tbaba1234:


I think, home based should be given a priority for under 17 because it is a good chance for exposure. That is the best chance for exposure for many talents. Exceptional foreign stars can join so as to keep them committed to Nigeria in the future.

For under 20, we should just look for the best.

You are right on point. I think that is the best option but not at the detriment of players doing well abroad.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:07pm On Apr 01, 2017
Icon4s:


Lol!

Even the Alex Iwobi that has been proven and tested we dey fear about his ability to cope with the physicality against Cameroun.

Are u telling me u dnt know abt the physical demands associated with playing typical African oppositions?

Lol. Rohr knows what he is doing. He has worked in Africa long enough.

You dnt know the implication of maintaining the same back line we used against Algeria?

He is beginning to have faith in that back line and building consistency and may just b looking for back ups. Omeruo is Nigeria's new RB.
Troost and Balogun are our confirmed CB duo while Echiejile has snatched back that LB position.

Allowing those English born players train with the team is good. Firstly for sense of belonging and also a couple of them may turn out to be great additions to the squad.



I did say previously that I had some questions about Iwobi. He has played pretty football at Arsenal with great technical players around him. I wasn't sure how he would cope in a blood, guts and physical warfare type game. That question was answered when we played Senegal. He simply didn't, will he improve its open to debate, will Rohr take a chance on him again in an even more physically contentious blood and guts I'll tempered football game hmmm. With a whole lot more at stake, not my decision but Rohr.

Omeruah is defender and nothing else he is not a RWB however Aina is.

Some of the RWB from Germany and Holland to my superficial eye seem a bit lightweight for a battle against Cameroon.Aino is not a lightweight.

Onyedinma is not a lightweight Aluko is not a lightweight i would play both of them against Cameroon. Iorfa needs to be seen in a competitive friendly he also is not a lightweight.

The match with Cameroon is going to be a battle Ndidi is essential in this regard, so is Mikel, I'm not a big fan of Ogu a bit slow and laboured and not offensively inventive enough. We need other options I also like Shehu he should not be playing in Cyprus.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:15pm On Apr 01, 2017
Bazee is still out, is not on the Hannover side.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:16pm On Apr 01, 2017
forgiveness:


How can you pull down what is not on ground?

We don't have a team on ground yet because most these players don't have up to 10 caps.

We are still building hence the need to bring in players to slug it out with the ones in the team. grin

It is a team in progress. grin

U see?

That is where the problem is. And that where the problem has been in the last ten years. Lack of consistency and pulling down the team at random?

Now u say we dnt have a team and most players dnt have up to 10 caps. Do u know how long it takes for players to get 10caps for the national team. How many games does a national team play in a year adding to the fact that we have missed out in last two AFCONS.

Now back to ur 10caps indices. It will interest u to know that from the crop of players who play regularly or come in as subs only Iwobi, Iheanacho and Ndidi have less than 10caps with 9, 8 and 7 respectively. Look at our defense and midfield and tell me which other player has not had up to 10 caps. What of Musa, Victor Moses, Ighalo and Ideye? Even young chaps like Shehu, Simon and Etebo have had had more than 10 caps.

My good Friend WE HAVE A TEAM AND A GOOD STRUCTURE ON GROUND ABEG.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:35pm On Apr 01, 2017
komekn:


I did say previously that I had some questions about Iwobi. He has played pretty football at Arsenal with great technical players around him. I wasn't sure how he would cope in a blood, guts and physical warfare type game. That question was answered when we played Senegal. He simply didn't, will he improve its open to debate, will Rohr take a chance on him again in an even more physically contentious blood and guts I'll tempered football game hmmm. With a whole lot more at stake, not my decision but Rohr.

Omeruah is defender and nothing else he is not a RWB however Aina is.

Some of the RWB from Germany and Holland to my superficial eye seem a bit lightweight for a battle against Cameroon.Aino is not a lightweight.

Onyedinma is not a lightweight Aluko is not a lightweight i would play both of them against Cameroon. Iorfa needs to be seen in a competitive friendly he also is not a lightweight.

The match with Cameroon is going to be a battle Ndidi is essential in this regard, so is Mikel, I'm not a big fan of Ogu a bit slow and laboured and not offensively inventive enough. We need other options I also like Shehu he should not be playing in Cyprus.

I like the objectiveness and the specific ways with which u jst tabled ur points. But meanwhile forgiveness claimed the senegal game was not physical at all. A game that had rugged Onazi stretchered out with Musa limping out and had up to abt 7 yellow cards.

I also have issues with the way Omeruo plays the RB. He plays it as a Right Full back where as modern football encourages more of Right Wing Back plays.

Now, it depends on the teams set up, A RFB may be more valuable in particular games or situations than a RWB and vice versa.

Now also u need to understand that the pry duties of a defender is to defend. Ability to join in the attack is an additional quality. A coach assesses his options and prioritises.

I personally dnt see Ebuehi as physical enough to cope with the demands of that position. He IMO is pretty young and needs time to develop.

Ola Aina and Moses Odubanjo are other RB options but are they better than Shehu Abdullahi and Musa Mohammed who we have seen marshalled that position without issues.

Can they provide more cover at the back than Omeruo?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:37pm On Apr 01, 2017
Icon4s:


U see?

That is where the problem is. And that where the problem has been in the last ten years. Lack of consistency and pulling down the team at random?

Now u say we dnt have a team and most players dnt have up to 10 caps. Do u know how long it takes for players to get 10caps for the national team. How many games does a national team play in a year adding to the fact that we have missed out in last two AFCONS.

Now back to ur 10caps indices. It will interest u to know that from the crop of players who play regularly or come in as subs only Iwobi, Iheanacho and Ndidi have less than 10caps with 9, 8 and 7 respectively. Look at our defense and midfield and tell me which other player has not had up to 10 caps. What of Musa, Victor Moses, Ighalo and Ideye? Even young chaps like Shehu, Simon and Etebo have had had more than 10 caps.

My good Friends WE HAVE A TEAM AND A GOOD STRUCTURE ON GROUND ABEG.


This is not pulling down, this is building.

You remove the ones not fitted for the best.

Only Musa, Ighalo(e still dey team?) grin, Onazi, Mikel, Victor, Echiejile, Simon, Omeruo and Shehu Abdullahi (I am not convinced he is Super Eagles material) has up to 10 caps.

The rest na below,na.

We need to bring in more players to fight for the shirt.

Mikel Agu, Sanisi and Esiti contending with Wilfred

Noah, Aluko and Ehizibue contending with Ahmed

Odubajo, Ebuehi and Nura contending with Musa and Omeruo

Aina and Torunarigha contesting with Echiejile

Noah, Sone sluggish it out with Iheanacho

etcetera etcetera... grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:53pm On Apr 01, 2017
forgiveness:



This is not pulling down, this is building.

You remove the ones not fitted for the best.

Only Musa, Ighalo(e still dey team?) grin, Onazi, Mikel, Victor, Echiejile, Simon, Omeruo and Shehu Abdullahi (I am not convinced he is Super Eagles material) has up to 10 caps.

The rest na below,na.

We need to bring in more players to fight for the shirt.

Mikel Agu, Sanisi and Esiti contending with Wilfred

Noah, Aluko and Ehizibue contending with Ahmed

Odubajo, Ebuehi and Nura contending with Musa and Omeruo

Aina and Torunarigha contesting with Echiejile

Noah, Sone sluggish it out with Iheanacho

etcetera etcetera... grin


U did not even mention Brown Ideye and Troost-Ekong. They have more than 10 caps. Leon Balogun should also be nearing 10 caps now.
Now does ur argument of MOST players not having up to 10 caps still valid?

Going by all these names you are mentioning u'll continue to have headaches over Rohr's team selection. Bc u will still be disappointed again when you see his next squad for the SA game and MOST of those names u have been singing will be omitted.

Rohr knows his TEAM already but will continue to try out a couple of other players to see those that will add value to the team. Not to just flood the camp with so many untested players.

I can tell you that Rohr already knows atleast 9 of the 11 players he would want to start the game against SA in june.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:04pm On Apr 01, 2017
Icon4s:


U did not even mention Brown Ideye and Troost-Ekong. They have more than 10 caps. Leon Balogun should also be nearing no caps now.
Now does ur argument of MOST players not having up to 10 caps still valid?

Going by all these names you are mentioning u'll continue to have headaches over Rohr's team selection. Bc u will still be disappointed again when you see his next squad for the SA game and MOST of those names u have been singing will be omitted.

Rohr knows his TEAM already but will continue to try out a couple of other players to see those that will add value to the team. Not to just flood the camp with so many untested players.

I can tell you that Rohr already knows atleast 9 of the 11 players he would want to start the game against SA in june.



I am not Rohr but i probably know 9 out of the 11.. Changes will happen gradually not suddenly..

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:10pm On Apr 01, 2017
tbaba1234:


I am not Rohr but i probably know 9 out of the 11.. Changes will happen gradually not suddenly..

Na so.

Abeg help make forgiveness understand this.

He even claims we dnt have a team on ground.

Me don tire.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 1:32pm On Apr 01, 2017
joseph1013:
What does this have to do with the age of Pogba?

You are being ridiculous. If Nigeria has the same comprehensive record system as France, no one will question the ages of our boys.

Now I can deduce from your previous posts that as far as we do not have a comprehensive system of records, our age declaration will not be accepted, even when the persons concerned are telling the truth.

Therefore, even when someone from the advanced Countries presents his age we should not doubt because such persons are from climes where standard and comprehensive data is kept.
Paul Pogba looks older than a 24yr old person, but I should be forced to admit his age is real.

On the other hand, I should always doubt the ages of Nigerian youngsters such as Iheanacho, Simon, Musa Yahaya and co even though appear to be young and as well a true reflection of their declared age, just because they are from the part of the World where comprehensive records are not fully adopted.

Can you see the useless doctrine the whites want to force on us

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 1:51pm On Apr 01, 2017
Icon4s:


I like the objectiveness and the specific ways with which u jst tabled ur points. But meanwhile forgiveness claimed the senegal game was not physical at all. A game that had rugged Onazi stretchered out with Musa limping out and had up to abt 7 yellow cards.

I also have issues with the way Omeruo plays the RB. He plays it as a Right Full back where as modern football encourages more of Right Wing Back plays.

Now, it depends on the teams set up, A RFB may be more valuable in particular games or situations than a RWB and vice versa.

Now also u need to understand that the pry duties of a defender is to defend. Ability to join in the attack is an additional quality. A coach assesses his options and prioritises.

I personally dnt see Ebuehi as physical enough to cope with the demands of that position. He IMO is pretty young and needs time to develop.

Ola Aina and Moses Odubanjo are other RB options but are they better than Shehu Abdullahi and Musa Mohammed who we have seen marshalled that position without issues.

Can they provide more cover at the back than Omeruo?
If Aina can pushed Omeruo to team B with just two days training then who is Shehu Abdullahi and Musa Muhammed to compete with him and who told u there are no issues with Abdullahi and Mohammed as RB,if there are no issues Ndidi w not be forced to play as RB against Zambia and Omeruo against Algeria,though Omeruo started as RB for eagles.

Rohr is an experience coach who have seen what he was looking for in RB in Aina and remember both Aina and Omeruo belonged to Chelsea,Omeruo on loan and Aina in main squad,a good coach w evaluate d situation.

According to reliable source d switching of Aina's allegiance to Nigeria is d top priority of Rohr and NFF coz of his displayed in training.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:52pm On Apr 01, 2017
Icon4s:


U did not even mention Brown Ideye and Troost-Ekong. They have more than 10 caps. Leon Balogun should also be nearing no caps now.
Now does ur argument of MOST players not having up to 10 caps still valid?

Going by all these names you are mentioning u'll continue to have headaches over Rohr's team selection. Bc u will still be disappointed again when you see his next squad for the SA game and MOST of those names u have been singing will be omitted.

Rohr knows his TEAM already but will continue to try out a couple of other players to see those that will add value to the team. Not to just flood the camp with so many untested players.

I can tell you that Rohr already knows atleast 9 of the 11 players he would want to start the game against SA in june.






If we add those two, it becomes 11.

Which is great 11 or 12? grin

If 12, then I repeat most of these players don't have up to 10 caps.

Out of the 11, I go still commot 1 or 2 players from the team.

So far, Rohr is trying.

I am not saying Rohr should flood the team with untested players. I am saying bring them in to flush out the weaklings. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:53pm On Apr 01, 2017
joseph1013:


You are being ridiculous. If Nigeria has the same comprehensive record system as France, no one will question the ages of our boys.

I share terzurum5 ideology. He is not saying Pogba is overage. He is saying we should stop using looks to tag players overage. If Donnaruma was Nigerian, no one will believe he is a teenager because of his looks. People should not suffer because of the failed system.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:54pm On Apr 01, 2017
terzurum5:


Now I can deduce from your previous posts that as far as we do not have a comprehensive system of records, our age declaration will not be accepted, even when the persons concerned are telling the truth.

Therefore, even when someone from the advanced Countries presents his age we should not doubt because such persons are from climes where standard and comprehensive data is kept.
Paul Pogba looks older than a 24yr old person, but I should be forced to admit his age is real.

On the other hand, I should always doubt the ages of Nigerian youngsters such as Iheanacho, Simon, Musa Yahaya and co even though appear to be young and as well a true reflection of their declared age, just because they are from the part of the World where comprehensive records are not fully adopted.

Can you see the useless doctrine the whites want to force on us

The thing is that Pogba's age can be independently verified from the government and hospital records. For many Nigerians, we do not have such records.

Even when a person is saying the truth about his age, it can not be independently verified.

And let us be honest, there are other incentives for people to reduce their ages. We see it in companies and the public service. The lack of records make it easy for people to change their ages.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 2:14pm On Apr 01, 2017
tbaba1234:


I think, home based should be given a priority for under 17 because it is a good chance for exposure. That is the best chance for exposure for many talents. Exceptional foreign stars can join so as to keep them committed to Nigeria in the future.

For under 20, we should just look for the best.

Our problem is planning and funding.

If u send NPFL U17 players for MRI test anyone go pass? U and I know na.

IMO let us leave the U17 selection the way it is. I.e from the academies. Players go through MRI and what have u. That has given us two world titles within a short space of time. So it is working for us.

Now we should have an NPFL U18.

For instance, we are in 2017 and should be planning towards the 2019 WYC. By 2019 that team would have matured into an U20 team.

How do we go about this?

It is a known fact that our NPFL teams struggle to get funds to execute league games so having an U18 or youth league is out of it.

The NFF through the NPFL has a data base of players both in the top and lower division. It means they can sieve out players who are 17 and 18. U saw the thread earlier this week of NPFL youngsters. most of them are 17 and 18. At the end of the season this year, 2017 such players should be invited for trials at the U18 camp. And 25 of them selected as the U18 national team.

Now, we expect also the national U17 players from academies that went through the MRI to be part of this team. We invite them also for trials at the U18 camp from which again best 25 are selected. This team can be kept busy with matches with armature and or lower division teams or even NPFL preseason tourney, like that of 2015.

2019 WYC qualifiers starts in 2018. We would be ready by then to face any opposition.

How do we include the foreign based U20 players? It is difficult to secure their release during qualifiers as the games are played outside the FIFA window. We may manage to get the ones still in academies. If we qualify for the WYC which is typically played during end of season break then we invite the foreign based players that can add value nt jst bc they are foreign based.


I would like know what TheGoodJoe and TheSuperNerd think about this suggestion.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by joseph1013: 2:16pm On Apr 01, 2017
terzurum5:




Now I can deduce from your previous posts that as far as we do not have a comprehensive system of records, our age declaration will not be accepted, even when the persons concerned are telling the truth.

Therefore, even when someone from the advanced Countries presents his age we should not doubt because such persons are from climes where standard and comprehensive data is kept.
Paul Pogba looks older than a 24yr old person, but I should be forced to admit his age is real.

On the other hand, I should always doubt the ages of Nigerian youngsters such as Iheanacho, Simon, Musa Yahaya and co even though appear to be young and as well a true reflection of their declared age, just because they are from the part of the World where comprehensive records are not fully adopted.

Can you see the useless doctrine the whites want to force on us
You're missing the point. As long as your country cannot get it right in the keeping of records, you will have to make do with other methods of ascertaining the ages of your footballers like MRI scans.

There is something called precedence. If people from a particular country are known for being drug peddlers, it only makes sense to put extra measures before allowing citizens from that place to enter your country. It's just common sense. Nothing personal. Your anger is misdirected.

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