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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 3:29pm On Apr 02, 2017
larride:
Nihilist, where Fernandinho dey play for this match?

grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 3:45pm On Apr 02, 2017
Nihilist:


I'm yet to see a footballer with that name on the back of his shirt that is not a crap footballer.

And there's about 9738 of these Traores out there...

Hehe. He's got potentials but it shouldn't just stop at that. It's a good thing that Ajax have provided him with the springboard to launch his career proper. Good team, good manager, decent league, lovely stadium, not to mention that he's the focal point of the team with the figure, 9, well inscripted on the back of his shirt, what more does he need?

The positives one can pick out of his game is that, he beats his man easily, can work the channels and is good at interplays. But then again, all these would only count for nothing, if as a striker you can't bury the ball in the onion bag.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 4:06pm On Apr 02, 2017
KDB got the vision mehn. That dude for don dub for school.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 4:43pm On Apr 02, 2017
Aguero keeps embarrassing Raumdeuter sha.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 4:49pm On Apr 02, 2017
Nihilist:
Aguero keeps embarrassing Raumdeuter sha.

Not every opinion is valid, not every logic is admissible.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 4:58pm On Apr 02, 2017
Spy360:

We were unbeaten in 2003/04. Isn't that something to take serious?

You people just hate us and it isn't fair.

Thunder fire una. ;>


Make up your minds Arsenal clown, You want to be taken serious when you people don't even take your manager serious...Why won't we hate you when you 10:2 embarrass The EPL AT The UCL...SPITS

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 5:00pm On Apr 02, 2017
An HIV patient immune system > Arsenal's defence
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 5:02pm On Apr 02, 2017
bigkesh:
An HIV patient immune system > Arsenal's defence


Poorly laid joke.

Arsenals defense is better than Citys
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:11pm On Apr 02, 2017
Nihilist:
Aguero keeps embarrassing Ramdeuter sha.

Really embarassing. That header from Navas cross is more than embarassing

And of course Arsenal scores soon after
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 5:56pm On Apr 02, 2017
raumdeuter:


Really embarassing. That header from Navas cross is more than embarassing

And of course Arsenal scores soon after

We should blame aguero

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 6:06pm On Apr 02, 2017
Honestly, if anything Aguero has been proving Ramdueter right
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:14pm On Apr 02, 2017
bigkesh:
Honestly, if anything Aguero has been proving Ramdueter right

Thank you my small doctor. You dey watch the games and see the details. The one or 2 goals here and there shouldnt take away the bigger picture

His below average linkup play, below average offensive press and now deteriorating finishing

Some will rather kill themselves by tying themselves in a bind than admit ramdeter was actually right

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Spy360(m): 6:39pm On Apr 02, 2017
Gyalchester:



Make up your minds Arsenal clown, You want to be taken serious when you people don't even take your manager serious...Why won't we hate you when you 10:2 embarrass The EPL AT The UCL...SPITS
Let your MuMu club qualify for the next one and then win it.

#scum.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:51pm On Apr 02, 2017
Spy360:

Let your MuMu club qualify for the next one and then win it.

#scum.


We actually know what it feels like to win one...Faggot_ cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:53pm On Apr 02, 2017
diggz:
We should blame aguero

No blame Buhari

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 7:07pm On Apr 02, 2017
bigkesh:
Honestly, if anything Aguero has been proving Ramdueter right


Pfft. Aguero is missing chances just like everyother striker, you and Ram-daughter have simply got your attention on those misses than his overall contribution.

Mind you, the man you're helping fan the embers of his logic doesn't have a mind of his own.

He's gone from Aguero can't run around the pitch. so he's useless, to Aguero misses alot lately, so he's useless, all within weeks. Decamp now that you have the time.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 7:16pm On Apr 02, 2017
Griffon:


Pfft. Aguero is missing chances just like everyother striker, you and Ram-daughter have simply got your attention on those misses than his overall contribution.

Mind you, the man you're helping fan the embers of his logic doesn't have a mind of his own.

He's gone from Aguero can't run around the pitch. so he's useless, to Aguero misses alot lately, so he's useless, all within weeks. Decamp now that you have the time.

Did he really say this or did he say he is deteriorating and may not be the perfect fit for Pep's system?

I think you will find (if there's no hidden agenda of course), that those are two different things. I have been a long-term admirer of Aguero but Dayo might be right on this one.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 7:48pm On Apr 02, 2017
nateevs:


Did he really say this or did he say he is deteriorating and may not be the perfect fit for Pep's system?

I think you will find (if there's no hidden agenda of course), that those are two different things. I have been a long-term admirer of Aguero but Dayo might be right on this one.

I don't think Aguero is deteriorating. He is simply not a striker to run around and press. I don't have the exact numbers, but I'm sure the man has missed something like 1 month each season with soft tissue injuries - the type that Sturridge also suffers from - over the last 3 seasons.

Simply put, Aguero is not a man built for agidi football. I've also heard that he's constantly playing through the pain barrier.

However, in front of goal Aguero is still a lethal assassin. I think he has 10 in his last 12 or something like that. I mean the man has 26 goals this season already, and I think he's missed 6 or more games through suspension and injury.

If Dayo wants to pick an exact date he feels Aguero started his so called decline, we can examine his shot accuracy and shot conversion rates relative to other EPL strikers and I am 100% certain that the numbers will not support such a wack assertion.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nateevs(m): 8:01pm On Apr 02, 2017
Nihilist:


I don't think Aguero is deteriorating. He is simply not a striker to run around and press. I don't have the exact numbers, but I'm sure the man has missed something like 1 month each season with soft tissue injuries - the type that Sturridge also suffers from - over the last 3 seasons.

Simply put, Aguero is not a man built for agidi football. I've also heard that he's constantly playing through the pain barrier.

However, in front of goal Aguero is still a lethal assassin. I think he has 10 in his last 12 or something like that. I mean the man has 26 goals this season already, and I think he's missed 6 or more games through suspension and injury.

If Dayo wants to pick an exact date he feels Aguero started his so called decline, we can examine his shot accuracy and shot conversion rates relative to other EPL strikers and I am 100% certain that the numbers will not support such a wack assertion.


Well, did Dayo say Aguero is no longer lethal in front of goal? I am not sure this is Dayo's point.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 8:15pm On Apr 02, 2017
nateevs:



Well, did Dayo say Aguero is no longer lethal in front of goal? I am not sure this is Dayo's point.


Please permit me to join this Convo.

Dayo has been looking for a way to say aguero is not lethal any longer but unfortunately for him aguero keeps scoring almost every match day.

He was here few days ago to gloat over aguero being benched by the NT coach. He happily celebrated in the open and was in support of those who claimed aguero to be a fraud.

He even claimed aguero to be lazy just to discredit him as a prolific striker.

Raumdeuter,wants us to believe aguero is no longer lethal and he has said that much.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SeekinAttention(f): 8:18pm On Apr 02, 2017
I just don't understand Apari ramudeen again.
Aguero is not a solid striker. If Aguero is no more good, then who is now solid
Costa Giroud ?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 8:27pm On Apr 02, 2017
Griffon:


Pfft. Aguero is missing chances just like everyother striker, you and Ram-daughter have simply got your attention on those misses than his overall contribution.

Mind you, the man you're helping fan the embers of his logic doesn't have a mind of his own.

He's gone from Aguero can't run around the pitch. so he's useless, to Aguero misses alot lately, so he's useless, all within weeks. Decamp now that you have the time.
Aguero vs Monaco
Aguero vs Liverpool


You simply can't defend those performances......Of course a CF like Aguero will score with Sane, Silva and KDB


Let's look at the goal he scored today, most midfielders will shoot at goal but not Silva that his entire brain is wired to create chances
It's not really about missing chances, it's about the kind of chances you miss.. ...Aguero is missing sitters

When a CF misses 5/6 goals per game, there is a problem... ...You can rely on such a player against tougher oppositions when you will get is 5/6 chances as a team


I like Aguero but right now he is not doing enough.. ..Aguero of those days would have buried Monaco

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 8:27pm On Apr 02, 2017
These barca team so much depend on messi that when he is not playing they look clueless.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 8:38pm On Apr 02, 2017
nateevs:



Well, did Dayo say Aguero is no longer lethal in front of goal? I am not sure this is Dayo's point.

He did
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:39pm On Apr 02, 2017
Nihilist:


I don't think Aguero is deteriorating. He is simply not a striker to run around and press. I don't have the exact numbers, but I'm sure the man has missed something like 1 month each season with soft tissue injuries - the type that Sturridge also suffers from - over the last 3 seasons.

Simply put, Aguero is not a man built for agidi football. I've also heard that he's constantly playing through the pain barrier.

However, in front of goal Aguero is still a lethal assassin. I think he has 10 in his last 12 or something like that. I mean the man has 26 goals this season already, and I think he's missed 6 or more games through suspension and injury.

If Dayo wants to pick an exact date he feels Aguero started his so called decline, we can examine his shot accuracy and shot conversion rates relative to other EPL strikers and I am 100% certain that the numbers will not support such a wack assertion.

A striker in todays brand of football you have to either be a presser or have the body to take a beating and hold up play because most times you are in between 2 CBs
Against top opposition if your striker doesnt engage defenders either in form of pressing or Holdup. This gives the defenders way too much time to pick passes from the back and the quality of passes from Center backs is getting better nowadays Also unsure CB's can easily be unsettled and leak good scoring chances

These Aguero doesnt offer, with this trade off then he must be scoring 8 out of 10 chances to have a chance vs top opposition.

The option ow becomes to play Aguero with another striker in front which he has done in his previous years in City either with Tevez, Dzeko, Balotelli, Negredo, Bony etc

Doing this while resolving one problem creates another big problem you are light in the middle, and with 2 strikers who are waiting for the ball, the midfield get outnumbered

This was best displayed in the City vs Bayern game in October 2013 where Pellegrini lined up with 2 strikers and Guardiola lined up with no striker,(Teamsheet attached below) at the end it became totally embarassing for City with the Bayern players tossing them around and the ball barely getting to their 2 strikers

Below are excerpts from journalists after the game

Bayern Munich produced an ominously powerful display to outclass Manchester City 3-1 in the Champions League on Wednesday

At times, it was embarrassingly one-sided, with Bayern first to every ball and controlling the midfield

City, constantly outnumbered in midfield by playing two up front, was its own worst enemy at times

With lone striker Mueller often dropping deep to complement Bayern's dominant midfield

By that stage, even City's fans were clapping Bayern — Robben got a round of applause when he came off in the 77th — and Mueller almost made it 4-0 when his shot at the second attempt crashed against the goal frame
http://www.nydailynews.com/bayern-munich-masterclass-humbles-city-article-1.1474372

Bayern Munich gave Manchester City a footballing masterclass at the Etihad
Arjen Robben's post-match comment said it all: "We didn't give them any space, we pressed them and they had a lot of balls they kicked away and we could start again. They sometimes gave us a little too much space and we are a team who can use the space very well.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/manchester-city-1-bayern-munich-6129741

Pep Guardiola's side produce attacking masterclass to leave Etihad stunned
The Chilean, too, should have seen Bayern's team sheet, with Thomas Mueller operated as a Barcelona-style "false nine" and realised playing two out and out frontmen simply ceded control of the midfield.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/match-reports/manchester-city-1-3-bayern-munich-2332677

All the pain was coming from the midfield, where Philipp Lahm patrolled in front of the Bayern back four and Schweinsteiger and Toni Kroos dominated the centre of the pitch. Toure did not see much of the ball in the early stages and then, when he did, his confidence was diminished and he found himself making the kind of mistakes that one might expect of a lesser player.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/manchester-city-1-bayern-munich-3-match-report-german-masterclass-leaves-joe-hart-and-his-city-team-8854672.html


Aguero doesnt have these attributes so what he has going for him is his exceptional shooting accuracy. For Aguero to have a case to start in an elite side without pressing and hold up play then, he must be scoring at about 8 out of 10 chances

Nowadays his potency in front of goal to the eye test looks to be waning also, which now brings the question what does he bring to the what does he bring to the striking table

This isnt the first time in football where seemingly less talented players were chosen ahead of superior players based on their desire and work rate. E.g Olic-Muller replaced Lucatoni and Klose, Mandzukic replaced Gomez, Oscar replaced Mata even Drogba with his desire excelled where Sheva failed

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 8:56pm On Apr 02, 2017
Bogaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

GRA 1 - 1 Bar

Just 5 mins on the pitch.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:57pm On Apr 02, 2017
bigkesh:

Aguero vs Monaco
Aguero vs Liverpool


You simply can't defend those performances......Of course a CF like Aguero will score with Sane, Silva and KDB


Let's look at the goal he scored today, most midfielders will shoot at goal but not Silva that his entire brain is wired to create chances
It's not really about missing chances, it's about the kind of chances you miss.. ...Aguero is missing sitters

When a CF misses 5/6 goals per game, there is a problem... ...You can rely on such a player against tougher oppositions when you will get is 5/6 chances as a team


I like Aguero but right now he is not doing enough.. ..Aguero of those days would have buried Monaco

I want to compliment this post but I dont want to seem like I am patronizing you. But this is the truth.

In City any striker will score even Gomiss, But what is required goes beyond scoring 1 or 2 goals here and there.

People might say Suarez Zlatan and Costa also miss sitters but on the flip side they bring something else to the table, Intense pressing unsettling defenders and Hold up play

Below is an example of what Costa brings to the table
[img]http:///media/4-02-2017/LFzSTZ.gif[/img]

Incase the gif is not clear watch this youtube video from 3:10 where Costa scored the goal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u73zxazkdcI

If Aguero isnt bringing that type of pressing, He isnt bringing hold up play then he cant be missing 3-4 clear chances in key games.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by mathys: 9:21pm On Apr 02, 2017
raumdeuter:


I want to compliment this post but I dont want to seem like I am patronizing you. But this is the truth.

In City any striker will score even Gomiss, But what is required goes beyond scoring 1 or 2 goals here and there.

People might say Suarez Zlatan and Costa also miss sitters but on the flip side they bring something else to the table, Intense pressing unsettling defenders and Hold up play

Below is an example of what Costa brings to the table
[img]http:///media/4-02-2017/LFzSTZ.gif[/img]

Incase the gif is not clear watch this youtube video from 3:10 where Costa scored the goal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u73zxazkdcI

If Aguero isnt bringing that type of pressing, He isnt bringing hold up play then he cant be missing 3-4 clear chances in key games.

Even the costa you are using as a reference point cant hold shytte 99% of the time,phoolishly gets to loose the ball most times and is not actually scoring at the moment. You are here to castigate aguero over is low period while forgetting zlatan and suarez have had their fair share of playing total rubbish this season as well.

Fear God Dayo.....
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:31pm On Apr 02, 2017
mathys:


Even the costa you are using as a reference point cant hold shytte 99% of the time,phoolishly gets to loose the ball most times and is not actually scoring at the moment. You are here to castigate aguero over is low period while forgetting zlatan and suarez have had their fair share of playing total rubbish this season as well.

Fear God Dayo.....

Costa can miss chances but one thing is guaranteed Costa will press the defenders and make life very uncomfortable for him. And in some cases Costa will force errors out of the defenders

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SIRcumalot: 9:34pm On Apr 02, 2017
raumdeter just made Aguero sound like a rich man Defoe.
he scored a goal from a pretty difficult angle today.
and the pace with which Navas cross that ball Is such that Aguero can't control it and the best thing na to chook head and hope for the best.
Aguero his still elite.
he runs into spaces well and his strong enough to hold CB to finding opening to place his shot.
there can't be just two moulds of what you think a modern striker should be.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SeekinAttention(f): 9:36pm On Apr 02, 2017
So it's leading to, Costa is better than Aguero lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 9:43pm On Apr 02, 2017
Neymar has done what it would take Hazard 10seasons to do in less time. grin

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