I'm not a theist-atheist kind of person but i just want to clarify something....

the op's question “define God" is invalid except in some situations.... let me explain... its only valid when there is a misunderstanding between the theist and the atheist on the concept of “God".... but then... that's a wrong way to ask the question... it should rather be “what view of God are you talking about?"
basically... different people have different definitions for “God" cuz God is not a name but a title... some Christians/muslims/few other theists still view God as a white bearded man in the sky... others call “God" energy... some say the universe is God... some say the universe is the soul of God... basically, people have different views of God and different things they call “God"... majority of atheists are against the white bearded man mentality .... so a theist cannot tell an atheist to define God... the theist has to bring forth his own definition of God first... then maybe... if there is a misunderstanding in the discussion whereby the atheist seems to be arguing against a different view from the theist, then the theist can now ask the atheist to “define God(or better still... ask for the view of God he is arguing against)" so that the theist can understand the concept of God the atheist is arguing against and then correct it... let me give an instance

wilgrea7: i believe in God(christian/muslim)

atheist: i don't believe in God

in the above, the atheist must have understood the concept of the Christian/muslim God... then asking the atheist to define God would be a waste of time and a bad thing to do... cuz we both know the concept of God we're dealing with...

second scenario

wilgrea7: i believe in God(religion/faith not stated)

atheist: i don't believe in God..

wilgrea7:the universe is the soul of God
(atheist not understanding, then starts arguing against the white bearded view of God)

wilgrea7: define God(or better still) .. what view of God are you talking about

atheist: *lists his view*(white bearded man)

wilgrea7: that is not my view... i believe that all the galaxies etc are the soul of God.. i don't believe in the white bearded man view

atheist: (then understands and can now reject or argue against the panentheistic view)

note: the second scenario is very rare and only applies in case of misunderstanding.... however... the question “define God" is invalid... if there is a misunderstanding, the theist should ask “what view of God are you arguing against?".... again... only applies in case of misunderstanding...

MrBrownJay1:
This thread is further proof how really DUMB some religious people are....and probably why they are so easy to brainwash into becoming follow-follow sheep

Atheist who dont believe there is a god should Prove that God exist bwaaaaaasaah. This is as clueless as saying that I don't believe in martians so I should prove they exist.

from your post i can easily conclude you do not even know why you are an athiest. you said it is not true should you not be alble to provide what is the true. if i tell you lagos is in the north should i not be able to tell you where in the north lagos is located

Wilgrea7:
I'm not a theist-atheist kind of person but i just want to clarify something....

the op's question “define God" is invalid except in some situations.... let me explain... its only valid when there is a misunderstanding between the theist and the atheist on the concept of “God".... but then... that's a wrong way to ask the question... it should rather be “what view of God are you talking about?"
basically... different people have different definitions for “God" cuz God is not a name but a title... some Christians/muslims/few other theists still view God as a white bearded man in the sky... others call “God" energy... some say the universe is God... some say the universe is the soul of God... basically, people have different views of God and different things they call “God"... majority of atheists are against the white bearded man mentality .... so a theist cannot tell an atheist to define God... the theist has to bring forth his own definition of God first... then maybe... if there is a misunderstanding in the discussion whereby the atheist seems to be arguing against a different view from the theist, then the theist can now ask the atheist to “define God(or better still... ask for the view of God he is arguing against)" so that the theist can understand the concept of God the atheist is arguing against and then correct it... let me give an instance

wilgrea7: i believe in God(christian/muslim)

atheist: i don't believe in God

in the above, the atheist must have understood the concept of the Christian/muslim God... then asking the atheist to define God would be a waste of time and a bad thing to do... cuz we both know the concept of God we're dealing with...

second scenario

wilgrea7: i believe in God(religion/faith not stated)

atheist: i don't believe in God..

wilgrea7:the universe is the soul of God
(atheist not understanding, then starts arguing against the white bearded view of God)

wilgrea7: define God(or better still) .. what view of God are you talking about

atheist: *lists his view*(white bearded man)

wilgrea7: that is not my view... i believe that all the galaxies etc are the soul of God.. i don't believe in the white bearded man view

atheist: (then understands and can now reject or argue against the panentheistic view)

note: the second scenario is very rare and only applies in case of misunderstanding.... however... the question “define God" is invalid... if there is a misunderstanding, the theist should ask “what view of God are you arguing against?".... again... only applies in case of misunderstanding...

Making sense as always

Wilgrea7:
I'm not a theist-atheist kind of person but i just want to clarify something....

the op's question “define God" is invalid except in some situations.... let me explain... its only valid when there is a misunderstanding between the theist and the atheist on the concept of “God".... but then... that's a wrong way to ask the question... it should rather be “what view of God are you talking about?"
basically... different people have different definitions for “God" cuz God is not a name but a title... some Christians/muslims/few other theists still view God as a white bearded man in the sky... others call “God" energy... some say the universe is God... some say the universe is the soul of God... basically, people have different views of God and different things they call “God"... majority of atheists are against the white bearded man mentality .... so a theist cannot tell an atheist to define God... the theist has to bring forth his own definition of God first... then maybe... if there is a misunderstanding in the discussion whereby the atheist seems to be arguing against a different view from the theist, then the theist can now ask the atheist to “define God(or better still... ask for the view of God he is arguing against)" so that the theist can understand the concept of God the atheist is arguing against and then correct it... let me give an instance

wilgrea7: i believe in God(christian/muslim)

atheist: i don't believe in God

in the above, the atheist must have understood the concept of the Christian/muslim God... then asking the atheist to define God would be a waste of time and a bad thing to do... cuz we both know the concept of God we're dealing with...

second scenario

wilgrea7: i believe in God(religion/faith not stated)

atheist: i don't believe in God..

wilgrea7:the universe is the soul of God
(atheist not understanding, then starts arguing against the white bearded view of God)

wilgrea7: define God(or better still) .. what view of God are you talking about

atheist: *lists his view*(white bearded man)

wilgrea7: that is not my view... i believe that all the galaxies etc are the soul of God.. i don't believe in the white bearded man view

atheist: (then understands and can now reject or argue against the panentheistic view)

note: the second scenario is very rare and only applies in case of misunderstanding.... however... the question “define God" is invalid... if there is a misunderstanding, the theist should ask “what view of God are you arguing against?".... again... only applies in case of misunderstanding...

you said the question is wrong right？. supposing you saw a new manchine today and you wanted to get full information about the manchine.whom will you ask？i belive you will agree with me that is either you ask the founder ,creator or manufacturer right.

A88C:
fictional you call it.hope you know what that mean.you claim there is no GOD. you should be able to tell me what is god so i can measure and compare to what i understand by GOD. supposed i tell you nigeria is in europe i should be able to identify nigeria map located within europe map and if i can not it means i am not truthful

You see how you just kill yourself using 100% logic.
Here is analysis of the colored texts.

You just concluded and proved yourself that "NEGATION CAN NEVER BE PROVED".

You made the claim in the 1st instance that Nigeria is in Europe.
Therefore, it's your task to locate Nigeria Map in Europe and proof it

A88C:
from your post i can easily conclude you do not even know why you are an athiest. you said it is not true should you not be alble to provide what is the true. if i tell you lagos is in the north should i not be able to tell you where in the north lagos is located

Where you keep ya brain

Can you prove a negate?

A88C:
from your post i can easily conclude you do not even know why you are an athiest. you said it is not true should you not be alble to provide what is the true. if i tell you lagos is in the north should i not be able to tell you where in the north lagos is located

NONSENSE!!!!
I say there is NO GOD, and if you say there is a god then YOU should be proving that there is one.... Not me, duh!
This is simple logic.

But if you want proof, here is one: if there was indeed a BS god then there wouldn't be so many innocent children dying in the world. So much suffering or so many dumbass in church being defrauded by these criminals in robe. Dwell on that!

A88C:
from your post i can easily conclude you do not even know why you are an athiest. you said it is not true should you not be alble to provide what is the true. if i tell you lagos is in the north should i not be able to tell you where in the north lagos is located

johnydon22:
you are already failing in simple tenets of argument. You cannot make a proposition and ask someone who doubts your proposition to prove the negate.

the onus is on your who asserts the existence of a God to prove this not the person who doubts it.

now to demonstrate, there is a red cup on the table {image attached} now prove there isn't

www.nairaland.com/attachments/5075015_unknown_jpeg9f5501ebe363d2151399872ff93ebe3a

Wilgrea7:
I'm not a theist-atheist kind of person but i just want to clarify something....

the op's question “define God" is invalid except in some situations.... let me explain... its only valid when there is a misunderstanding between the theist and the atheist on the concept of “God".... but then... that's a wrong way to ask the question... it should rather be “what view of God are you talking about?"
basically... different people have different definitions for “God" cuz God is not a name but a title... some Christians/muslims/few other theists still view God as a white bearded man in the sky... others call “God" energy... some say the universe is God... some say the universe is the soul of God... basically, people have different views of God and different things they call “God"... majority of atheists are against the white bearded man mentality .... so a theist cannot tell an atheist to define God... the theist has to bring forth his own definition of God first... then maybe... if there is a misunderstanding in the discussion whereby the atheist seems to be arguing against a different view from the theist, then the theist can now ask the atheist to “define God(or better still... ask for the view of God he is arguing against)" so that the theist can understand the concept of God the atheist is arguing against and then correct it... let me give an instance

wilgrea7: i believe in God(christian/muslim)

atheist: i don't believe in God

in the above, the atheist must have understood the concept of the Christian/muslim God... then asking the atheist to define God would be a waste of time and a bad thing to do... cuz we both know the concept of God we're dealing with...

second scenario

wilgrea7: i believe in God(religion/faith not stated)

atheist: i don't believe in God..

wilgrea7:the universe is the soul of God
(atheist not understanding, then starts arguing against the white bearded view of God)

wilgrea7: define God(or better still) .. what view of God are you talking about

atheist: *lists his view*(white bearded man)

wilgrea7: that is not my view... i believe that all the galaxies etc are the soul of God.. i don't believe in the white bearded man view

atheist: (then understands and can now reject or argue against the panentheistic view)

note: the second scenario is very rare and only applies in case of misunderstanding.... however... the question “define God" is invalid... if there is a misunderstanding, the theist should ask “what view of God are you arguing against?".... again... only applies in case of misunderstanding...

Kaiiii....

Your head dae there....

Mr Op, Goan learn from Wilgrea7

MrBrownJay1:


NONSENSE!!!!
I say there is NO GOD, and if you say there is a god then YOU should be proving that there is one.... Not me, duh!
This is simple logic.

But if you want proof, here is one: if there was indeed a BS god then there wouldn't be so many innocent children dying in the world. So much suffering or so many dumbass in church being defrauded by these criminals in robe. Dwell on that!

fantastic.simple logic you can give what you dont know.becuse you do not see GOD does not mean he did not exist or is absence of an idea equal to an extablished fact. why are some children suffrng？ do you know what is call test？ this is part of what make us human. in school some are privilledge to be more smarter than the other even if they are taught under the same condition and do you still no why？ it is called test. i will post more enlightment on test soon

A88C:
fantastic.simple logic you can give what you dont know.becuse you do not see GOD does not mean he did not exist or is absence of an idea equal to an extablished fact. why are some children suffrng？ do you know what is call test？ this is part of what make us human. in school some are privilledge to be more smarter than the other even if they are taught under the same condition and do you still no why？ it is called test. i will post more enlightment on test soon

Concudee has defined god for you naa, tackle it.

Therefore, it's your task to locate Nigeria Map in Europe and proof it[/quote] you belive there is no GOD right then i expect you to tell me what it means to have GOD. i will ask you ,have you been to court of law before where lies are are made to be true if not i can give you instances

CatfishBilly:

Concudee has defined god for you naa, tackle it.

pls repost it

A88C:
pls repost it

Here it is

God is a/an entity/word/ used by the primitives to explain incomprehensible events

A88C:
pls repost it

You obviously have nothing to argue or debate about....

Go back to page zero of this thread. Read my first comment

A88C:
1 DEFINE GOD？
This question may sound absurd to him but it is logical （example）if i argue that this is not a religious thread.i should be able to give an understanding of what is expected of a religious thread.

ask them to define God and you will realised they have less to say but much to argue.

2ask them personally to tell you how they belive GOD do not exist personally not using a generic argument.

you will realised again they will have less to say but much to argue.

THE BELIVER CAN ADD MORE WHILE THE THREAD IS OPEN FOR A DEBATE WITH AN ATHIEST

The burden of proof should lie on the believer, if I told you that I can fly.. would it make sense for me to tell u to prove that I can't fly, when no one has seen me fly.. Well , I didn't expect you to that because you know, lean not on your own understanding.

No wonder Jesus said IT IS FINISHED

Cos this thread na "it's is finished"

CatfishBilly:

Does ugbelegbele exist ?
Please answer

One could say ugbelegbele exists because you made it exist.
Philosophically,I believe that an assumption becomes a fact(for the "assumer" when there is no logical evidence to disprove it.Such is the case for religion,I believe there is God simply because God exists within the boundary of my logical assumption.
I'm being philosophical anyway,notice that i'm not countering you in any way,your question just teased at my logic.
As for the OP,your logic actually makes sense.You cannot ask the pope to explain anubis or sango.

The OP is confused.

Lost his own argument.

Thread dead on arrival.....

Even Wilgrea an intelligent Believer destroyed the thread.

Abeg when be the waykeeping

Mood of every atheists viewing this thread @image

A88C:
you mean you can not defined what is not real.then you should be able to tell us what it should be if it is real. i have no problem of,whom GOD IS YOU DO

It is quite absurd to demand for the definition of a concept from someone who does not subscribe to that concept.

A88C:
fantastic.simple logic you can give what you dont know.becuse you do not see GOD does not mean he did not exist or is absence of an idea equal to an extablished fact. why are some children suffrng？ do you know what is call test？ this is part of what make us human. in school some are privilledge to be more smarter than the other even if they are taught under the same condition and do you still no why？ it is called test. i will post more enlightment on test soon

What kind of garbage answer is this?! Give me a CONCRETE proof that there is a god, instead of replying nonsense to smokescreen the issue.

A88C:
catfish belly. GOD do not exist you say,then you should be able to tell me what is GOD if he did not exist as you claim.you must have gotten a proper understanding of whom GOD should be if he exist.or should i assume you have less to say but much to argue .

A88C:
i understand athiest verywell, mind you the topic says two question to end a debate with an athiest. YOU HAVE LESS TO SAY BUT MUCH TO ARGUE and that is whom you are .

A88C:
ATHIEST HAVE LESS TO SAY BUT MUCH TO ARGUE. if you can not answer the above question dont expect me to help you. i HAVE MUCH TO SAY BUT LESS TO ARGUE. let it marinate

A88C:

CatfishBilly post=55265081:
Then, I guess this thread is dead on arrivalOr, does ugbelegbele exist?

YOU HAVE LESS TO SAY BUT MUCH TO ARGUE .

whaz the meaning of this¿ what do u hope to achieve repeating something that doesn't make sense? why do people argue?

Wilgrea7:
I'm not a theist-atheist kind of person but i just want to clarify something....

the op's question “define God" is invalid except in some situations.... let me explain... its only valid when there is a misunderstanding between the theist and the atheist on the concept of “God".... but then... that's a wrong way to ask the question... it should rather be “what view of God are you talking about?"
basically... different people have different definitions for “God" cuz God is not a name but a title... some Christians/muslims/few other theists still view God as a white bearded man in the sky... others call “God" energy... some say the universe is God... some say the universe is the soul of God... basically, people have different views of God and different things they call “God"... majority of atheists are against the white bearded man mentality .... so a theist cannot tell an atheist to define God... the theist has to bring forth his own definition of God first... then maybe... if there is a misunderstanding in the discussion whereby the atheist seems to be arguing against a different view from the theist, then the theist can now ask the atheist to “define God(or better still... ask for the view of God he is arguing against)" so that the theist can understand the concept of God the atheist is arguing against and then correct it... let me give an instance

wilgrea7: i believe in God(christian/muslim)

atheist: i don't believe in God

in the above, the atheist must have understood the concept of the Christian/muslim God... then asking the atheist to define God would be a waste of time and a bad thing to do... cuz we both know the concept of God we're dealing with...

second scenario

wilgrea7: i believe in God(religion/faith not stated)

atheist: i don't believe in God..

wilgrea7:the universe is the soul of God
(atheist not understanding, then starts arguing against the white bearded view of God)

wilgrea7: define God(or better still) .. what view of God are you talking about

atheist: *lists his view*(white bearded man)

wilgrea7: that is not my view... i believe that all the galaxies etc are the soul of God.. i don't believe in the white bearded man view

atheist: (then understands and can now reject or argue against the panentheistic view)

note: the second scenario is very rare and only applies in case of misunderstanding.... however... the question “define God" is invalid... if there is a misunderstanding, the theist should ask “what view of God are you arguing against?".... again... only applies in case of misunderstanding...

The thing is, most theists when they talk of god actually refer to the white bearded dude and actually believe there is a guy in the sky watching over us

The view of god you have given has more of a deistic nature

Really hate when I open these threads expecting to find a good argument but just get trash

A88C:
1 DEFINE GOD？This question may sound absurd to him but it is logical （example）if i argue that this is not a religious thread.
i should be able to give an understanding of what is expected of a religious thread.

ask them to define God and you will realised they have less to say but much to argue.

2ask them personally to tell you how they believe GOD does not exist personally not using a generic argument.

you will realised again they will have less to say but much to argue.

THE BELIVER CAN ADD MORE WHILE THE THREAD IS OPEN FOR A DEBATE WITH AN ATHIEST

CatfishBilly:
You can't tell me to define what I don't believe in

You wont define because you can't asked to define what you don't believe in
What a cheesy excuse of a cop out.

CatfishBilly:
You say God exists, the onus is on you to define, then we'll tackle your definition of God.

What you're doing now is onus probandi (shifting the burden of proof)

Ideally anyone else will straightaway answer the questions
Alternatively, might give a ''no comment'' or ''I dont know'' reply
Instead what you did, was throw a strop, make a fuss and conveniently weaselled your way out of personally answering question #1 and #2

A88C:
catfish belly. GOD do not exist you say, then you should be able to tell me what is GOD if he did not exist as you claim.
you must have gotten a proper understanding of whom GOD should be if he exist.
or should i assume you have less to say but much to argue.

His perception of God is impaired thats why GOD to him does not exist
Every atheists' Achilles heel and flaw to a tee is the inability to define God
This inability to define God affects their perception of God

CatfishBilly:
If I say a fictional animal ugbelegbele exists, you'll say no,
and I ask you to define ugbelegbele, it doesn't make sense right?
Same thing asking me to define God who I say doesn't exist.

Everyone notices ''fictional'' sticking and standing out like a sore thumb in your post

Fact is, some certain gods are fictional, whilst God and some other certain gods arent fictional
Fact also is, some certain gods are invented and untrue, whilst God and some other certain gods arent invented or untrue

Point is, your ''ugbelegbele'' premise is a house of cards, as ugbelegbele, is a fictional animal, invented, doesnt exist and untrue
BUT God is not fictional, invented and untrue

A88C:
if i may conclude no athiest has been able to define whom is GOD.

coolgee26:
Let's get going Mr Man

God is a/an entity/word/ used by the primitives to explain incomprehensible events

''Primitives'' rendered this reply factually inaccurate and took the shine out of what would have been classed a brave attempt and good answer.

coolgee26:
If the definition isn't convincing, provide yours since you claim to know the right and appropriate definition

Slow but steady,
slow but steady man

coolgee26:
At least, attempt was made....

Same cant be said for some, who lost their nerve and confidence
and instead of making an attempt developed cold feet giving sobbing excuses

coolgee26:
If this thread pass page 2 with definition of god from religious fellas, make una cut my d!ck

Are you ready for this?
Really? Get your weiner chopped off?
Dont worry, as you'll be safe in CatfishBilly's capable hands
He will gladly do us the honor of accepting to snip you

Only you showed big kahoonas and put your head over the parapet to define God
Everyone else balked at giving a definition, CatfishBilly particularly infamously chickened out
so it will be a shame seeing you get nuked

CatfishBilly can redeem himself,
I trust him with knives to do an excellent work

Okay, MuttleyLaff and A88C, I'll bite.
God is a concept created by humans to explain what they can't explain.
Here, you have it.

CatfishBilly:
Okay, MuttleyLaff and A88C, I'll bite.
God is a concept created by humans to explain what they can't explain.
Here, you have it.

No one is pushing or shoving your cliff of unfaith
So why leap off so suddenly and that easily
I know sarcasm, when I see one

God is source energy that is not bounded by space and time

A88C:
1 DEFINE GOD？
This question may sound absurd to him but it is logical （example）if i argue that this is not a religious thread.i should be able to give an understanding of what is expected of a religious thread.

ask them to define God and you will realised they have less to say but much to argue.

2ask them personally to tell you how they belive GOD do not exist personally not using a generic argument.

you will realised again they will have less to say but much to argue.

THE BELIVER CAN ADD MORE WHILE THE THREAD IS OPEN FOR A DEBATE WITH AN ATHIEST

A psychoanalysis of the mentality behind this moniker, revealed one of the cowards, who has thoroughly been stripped, of idiocy that's embedded in Christian religion.

Putting out thread like this, further shows how infirmed most apologists are, when it comes to intelligent thinking.

The forerunners of this imbecilic behavior, are now too ashamed, to be identified with the foolishness, that attends the claim of existence of Gods, that are obviously devoid of any substantial evidence.