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Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by Nobody: 5:56pm On Apr 05, 2017
MrBrownJay1:


NONSENSE #1
Until there is concrete and intelligent proof of the existence of your BS fantasy of a god, I will rather stick to the intelligent idea that there isn't any... And that this nonsense of a god, running your life from above, is all in gullible people's head.



NONSENSE #2
The fact that you have NO intelligent facts whatsoever about this god of yours, apart from some BS book written centuries ago (by equally deluded men), is only what we atheist need to understand that everything about your god is in your head.



NONSENSE #3
Well until the day you can come up with established facts about this god in the sky, we intelligent people of this world will use COMMON SENSE (and proven science) to judge our lives .
as i said earlier ,your god is ur desire and it has beclouded your resoning, DO YOU HAVE A FACT GOD DID NOT EXIST . am sure NO so why conclusion? and i am even very sure you do not even have a logical reason of becoming an athiest

you call it fantasy, i call it REAL, you want a proof then start to be thinking out of the box
Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by MrBrownJay1(m): 6:04pm On Apr 05, 2017
A88C:
as i said earlier ,your god is ur desire and it has beclouded your resoning, DO YOU HAVE A FACT GOD DID NOT EXIST . am sure NO so why conclusion? and i am even very sure you do not even have a logical reason of becoming an athiest

you call it fantasy, i call it REAL, you want a proof then start to be thinking out of the box

Again, as I said earlier, you just have to look at how many millions of innocent children are dying of illnesses, war and hunger around this world, is a PROOF that there is NO god in this world...... And if there was indeed a god that gladly let innocent children die by the millions of hunger/illness/war around the world, then i certainly want no part with this evil bastard.
Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by Nobody: 6:07pm On Apr 05, 2017
adepeter26:

And you close to common sense or Mr filled with sense,
My simple question to you is;

Do you agree something could come from nothing?


Now, get sense, the moment you said atheism was illogical going by image you uploaded but agree god came from nothing,,,,,
I concluded that, you and your stupid God were illogical as well
you know what? there is this saying that if you can not convince a fool within five minite you can not achieve that even within five centuries. but lastly you can only assign a creator to a creation and not a creation to a creator.GOD IS THE CREATOR
Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by Nobody: 6:31pm On Apr 05, 2017
MrBrownJay1:


Again, as I said earlier, you just have to look at how many millions of innocent children are dying of illnesses, war and hunger around this world, is a PROOF that there is NO god in this world...... And if there was indeed a god that gladly let innocent children die by the millions of hunger/illness/war around the world, then i certainly want no part with this evil bastard.
is that what make you to become an athiest ? then that is not logical.

let me give you a scenario

there was a particular brillant performing student in a class,this student was so good to the extent that he has recived praises from his teacher,infact it was conclude that the student will out perform the rest in the forth- comming exams and this decision made the particular brillant student less serious and focus becuse of the praises.

the exam took place and the result came out,the brillant student failed and the rest of the sudent who were not praised pass

the significance of the story in related to your question

the brillant student failed to study becuse he t has been identify as the best student(no human is made to suffer,our suffering is a result of our own work) let me rest small
Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by luvmijeje(f): 6:55pm On Apr 05, 2017
Hehehhe. .... .. . Atheists don enter another one chance. For this section, una go hear wen. There's no hidden place again for the ex golden fish.

OP well done o.

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Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by MrBrownJay1(m): 7:01pm On Apr 05, 2017
A88C:
is that what make you to become an athiest ? then that is not logical.

let me give you a scenario

there was a particular brillant performing student in a class,this student was so good to the extent that he has recived praises from his teacher,infact it was conclude that the student will out perform the rest in the forth- comming exams and this decision made the particular brillant student less serious and focus becuse of the praises.

the exam took place and the result came out,the brillant student failed and the rest of the sudent who were not praised pass

the significance of the story in related to your question

the brillant student failed to study becuse he t has been identify as the best student(no human is made to suffer,our suffering is a result of our own work) let me rest small

So what you are saying is that all the children dying all around the world are a result of their own doing?!?!?
ARRANT NONSENSE!!!!

That is the hypocrisy of xtians sheep, if something wrong happens, it's your own fault, but hey if something happens to THEM then BS prayers and tithe would solve the issue. Deluded beings praying to an evil ghost in the sky!
Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by Nobody: 7:13pm On Apr 05, 2017
MrBrownJay1:


So what you are saying is that all the children dying all around the world are a result of their own doing?!?!?
ARRANT NONSENSE!!!!

That is the hypocrisy of xtians sheep, if something wrong happens, it's your own fault, but hey if something happens to THEM then BS prayers and tithe would solve the issue. Deluded beings praying to an evil ghost in the sky!
why are you not doing justice to this. do not forget the student that pass recive no praises, if you are very logical you will understand that alone,you have been given a will. to take or not,to take or reject it is left for you
Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by MrBrownJay1(m): 7:23pm On Apr 05, 2017
A88C:
why are you not doing justice to these. do not forget the student that pass recive no praises, if you are very logical you will understand that alone,you have been given a will to take it or not,to take it or reject it is left for you

Here is a man that wanna debate what is LOGICAL or not, telling us all to believe in some being in the sky. BWAAAAAH!

You have been given a will to get some sense, embrass it or remain a follow-follow brainless sheep defrauded by criminals in robe every Sunday.
Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by GoodMuyis(m): 7:26pm On Apr 05, 2017
coolgee26:

What is stale in the question? You even attached a very funny image and claim science has a two definition to nature or form of nature?

Now you claim to say god is God ABI?
- tell a Muslim that the God he serves is same as the Jesus God and see how he refutes ya point or vice versa.
- tell a Christian that the God is Krishna and see how you all flare up.
- tell a Chinese man that one and only God is Yahweh and see if he no cut you slap

God is not God because God has different attributes in various religion....
Anyways, I see this thread coming to an end without anything meaningful from the OP

The Bible Shall answer you
ACT 17
20 For thou bringest certain strange things to our ears: we would know therefore what these things mean.

21 (For all the Athenians and strangers which were there spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell, or to hear some new thing.)

22 Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars’ hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious.

23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.

24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

25 Neither is worshipped with men’s hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;

26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:




Every Religion Point to God, But many worship are wrongly done
Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by Nobody: 7:34pm On Apr 05, 2017
MrBrownJay1:


Here is a man that wanna debate what is LOGICAL or not, telling us all to believe in some being in the sky. BWAAAAAH!

You have been given a will to get some sense, embrass it or remain a follow-follow brainless sheep defrauded by critminals in robe every Sunday.
lol the atheist have gotten one way of problem , can not explain what they claim is not true.
Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by Nobody: 7:39pm On Apr 05, 2017
luvmijeje:
Hehehhe. .... .. . Atheists don enter another one chance. For this section, una go hear wen. There's no hidden place again for the ex golden fish.

OP well done o.
Bae whatsup naw....
Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by Nobody: 7:42pm On Apr 05, 2017
I REPEAT NO ESTABLISHED FACT OF SCIENCE HAS REJECT THE ABSENCE,OF GOD,at least quran and bible support the evidence in full details. and that is enough for the wise

Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by coolgee26(m): 7:49pm On Apr 05, 2017
GoodMuyis:

Every Religion Point to God, But many worship are wrongly done
What did I just read? Every religion point to God, but worship him Wrongly

Do you know/aware that Sango is God as well?
When you summon on him, he strikes with thunder......

Are you aware Yahweh is God as well?
When the Israélites summon onto his name, he responded by killing the 1st born of all Egyptians.

Are you aware Allah is God?
Its written in the Quran that for every non-Muslim killed, you Ve a reward of 72virgins in paradise.

Is these the same God you refer to as "one god"?
Spare me this cock and bull story joor

There are different God and all worshipped differently
Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by MrBrownJay1(m): 7:50pm On Apr 05, 2017
A88C:
lol the atheist have gotten one way of problem , can not explain what they claim is not true.

And here we are, going right back to the same BS question by these deluded xtians. This is the only way they can think, gibberish nonsense over gibberish nonsense.

Again: You have been given a will to get some sense, embrass it or remain a follow-follow brainless sheep defrauded by criminals in robe every Sunday.
Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by ftechclass: 7:59pm On Apr 05, 2017
GoodMuyis:


The Bible Shall answer you
ACT 17
20 For thou bringest certain strange things to our ears: we would know therefore what these things mean.

21 (For all the Athenians and strangers which were there spent their time in nothing else, but either to tell, or to hear some new thing.)

22 Then Paul stood in the midst of Mars’ hill, and said, Ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious.

23 For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you.

24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

25 Neither is worshipped with men’s hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things;

26 And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

27 That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:




Every Religion Point to God, But many worship are wrongly done
A simple question is "who is that One God" because every religion claim to be serving a true god....

Pls do not rally round and respond directly.
Who is the true God? Or which religion serves the true God.?

From the bible you quoted, did your god say "there is reward of 72virgins for every non-Christian killed"?
Thanks
Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by Nobody: 8:06pm On Apr 05, 2017
coolgee26:

What did I just read? Every religion point to God, but worship him Wrongly

Do you know/aware that Sango is God as well?
When you summon on him, he strikes with thunder......

Are you aware Yahweh is God as well?
When the Israélites summon onto his name, he responded by killing the 1st born of all Egyptians.

Are you aware Allah is God?
Its written in the Quran that for every non-Muslim killed, you Ve a reward of 72virgins in paradise.

Is these the same God you refer to as "one god"?
Spare me this cock and bull story joor

There are different God and all worshipped differently
please qoute the verse from holy quran if you are not lying
Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by Nobody: 8:12pm On Apr 05, 2017
MrBrownJay1:


And here we are, going right back to the same BS question by these deluded xtians. This is the only way they can think, gibberish nonsense over gibberish nonsense.

Again: You have been given a will to get some sense, embrass it or remain a follow-follow brainless sheep defrauded by criminals in robe every Sunday.
you have failed to use the most common element we all have which is sense it is common but it can be expensive
Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by ftechclass: 8:17pm On Apr 05, 2017
A88C:
please qoute the verse from holy quran if you are not lying

The 72 Virgins notion has its origins in the Qur'an. Although the holy book does not specify the number as 72, it does say that those who fight in the way of Allah and are killed will be given a great reward. It goes on to stipulate that Muslims will be awarded with women in Islamic heaven. It even describes their physical attributes—large eyes (Q 56:22) and big, firm, round "swelling breasts" that are not inclined to sagging (Q 78:33). The Qur'an refers to these virgins as houri, companions of equal age, but the highly-flavored emphasis of their bodily characteristics, including their virginity, gave rise to many hadiths and other Islamic writings.

Hadith 2687 is where the number 72 is mentioned. "The smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode where there are eighty thousand servants and 72 houri, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine and ruby, as wide as the distance from al-Jabiyyah to San'a."
Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by hopefulLandlord: 8:28pm On Apr 05, 2017
A88C:
i will like to post this very logical picture to all the athiest who found sheltar in science to justify thier claim that there is no GOD

i will like to post this very logical picture to all the thiests who found sheltar in such illogical pictures as the one you just posted

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Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by Nobody: 8:33pm On Apr 05, 2017
ftechclass:


The 72 Virgins notion has its origins in the Qur'an. Although the holy book does not specify the number as 72, it does say that those who fight in the way of Allah and are killed will be given a great reward. It goes on to stipulate that Muslims will be awarded with women in Islamic heaven. It even describes their physical attributes—large eyes (Q 56:22) and big, firm, round "swelling breasts" that are not inclined to sagging (Q 78:33). The Qur'an refers to these virgins as houri, companions of equal age, but the highly-flavored emphasis of their bodily characteristics, including their virginity, gave rise to many hadiths and other Islamic writings.

Hadith 2687 is where the number 72 is mentioned. "The smallest reward for the people of Heaven is an abode where there are eighty thousand servants and 72 houri, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine and ruby, as wide as the distance from al-Jabiyyah to San'a."
you see your mistake.quoting verse out of contest without proper reading just becuse you want to argue.am not going to spend time on that since you do not even belive in the book.you belive in science and material as your object of defence and that Is what am ready to use against you.argue from any scientifical data and material available that GOD DID NOT EXIST and i shall expose your ignorance,
Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by Nobody: 8:36pm On Apr 05, 2017
[quote author=hopefulLandlord post=55298213]

i will like to post this very logical picture to all the thiests who found sheltar in such illogical pictutres as the one you just posted[/quotp
Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by Nobody: 8:42pm On Apr 05, 2017
the athiesm idealogy toward GOD is actually full of ignorance, check this creation of GOD vs that of man

Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by MuttleyLaff: 9:02pm On Apr 05, 2017
coolgee26:
Let's get going Mr Man
God is a/an entity/word/ used by the primitives to explain incomprehensible events

CatfishBilly:
Okay, MuttleyLaff and A88C, I'll bite.
God is a concept created by humans to explain what they can't explain.
Here, you have it.

AnonyNymous:
Lol. . .answer the question. Does ugbelegbele exist?
Do you believe ugbelegbele created the world? No? Define ugbelegbele then.
See how ridiculous it sounds?

Also, if you're asking to people to define the Chritian God
So far CatfishBilly and coolgee26 has failed miserably to define God
CatfishBilly's definition was so ludicrous as to be amusing
and he had the cheek to be smug over posting a definition not deserving to be seriously considered

AnonyNymous:
everyone already knows who the Christian God is from the bible
''Who do people say I am?'' and ''But who do you say I am?'' deja vu
They (i.e. everyone) think they know what and/or who God is

AnonyNymous:
So that's an unnecessary question.
It isnt an unnecessary question
It is a much needed question to ask

When asked to define God, this is examining the questionee's own unrealized spiritual or theological capacities.
Checking what level really is the questionee at?
Is it a sub-zero point?
How negatively far away from zero is the questionee?
How much debased is the questionee's mind?

This is mainly the reason behind the questioner testing the questionee (e.g. CatfishBilly, coolgee26 etcetera)
Questions such ''define of God'' is just about OK or enough to gauge a questionee's perception and theology

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Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by ftechclass: 9:27pm On Apr 05, 2017
A88C:
you see your mistake.quoting verse out of contest without proper reading just becuse you want to argue.am not going to spend time on that since you do not even belive in the book.you belive in science and material as your object of defence and that Is what am ready to use against you.argue from any scientifical data and material available that GOD DID NOT EXIST and i shall expose your ignorance,
Science never said god exist/existed.

So what exactly is your point? You seem to be very confused at this junction. no wonder atheists on this forum have ignored you.
Am doing same now... Walk out of thread
Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by Nobody: 9:44pm On Apr 05, 2017
ftechclass:

Science never said god exist/existed.

So what exactly is your point? You seem to be very confused at this junction. no wonder atheists on this forum have ignored you.
Am doing same now... Walk out of thread
when you do not have much to offer what will you do.ignore i guess.it is a shame. you cant defend what you claim.as an athiest your element of defence is base on science and material,i do not have a problem with science accepting or rejecting so far the major books accept it. bible and quran.you may start your own thread if you think your athiest mate can support you enough.

Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by MuttleyLaff: 7:23am On Apr 06, 2017
CatfishBilly:
Coolgee and myself have given you different definitions of God, you refused to debate it.
You call those, definition(s) of God?

For sake of not wanting to reveal my ignorance and show myself up
I would have kept quiet.
Maybe give a ''no reply'' or ''I dont know'' response.

CatfishBilly:
Oya define God yourself let's debate, you still refused?
Which one you dey?
You cant handle the definition and truth, my friend

A88C:
base on all of the above defination given so far.
it shows athiest are not as smart as they claim. they only proof to be stubborn.
well i understand you can not give what you do not have,

CatfishBilly:
Fine, we are the dumbest people on Earth,
no wahala if it makes you snore well at night
Where did he call yall the dumbest people on Earth?
You are becoming more of a drama queen post by post

CatfishBilly:
Oya define God let's debate
Are you sure you have the stamina to debate after given the definition of God

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Re: Two Questions To End A Debate With An Athiest by oaroloye(m): 10:41am On Jun 23, 2017
SHALOM!

CatfishBilly:
You can't tell me to define what I don't believe in.
You say God exists, the onus is on you to define, then we'll tackle your definition of God.
What you're doing now is onus probandi (shifting the burden of proof)

If you do not have a Definition of GOD, you do not know what you are talking about.

For an Atheist to demand that a Theist define God first proves that they are merely gainsaying, and lying.

ATHEISTS claim that THE BIBLE GOD claims to be OMNIPOTENT, OMNIPRESENT, and OMNISCIENT.

That is not The Bib;e's Teaching on God, therefore, those claimed attributes are an ATHEIST-CREATED STRAWMAN, which they can boast about demolishing, but such a victory is meaningless, because that is not what we are required to believe in.

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