Basic123:
lolz...yinmun for you..who do you trust self...do you guyz even trust yourself?...if not ojukwu will not absconded to ivory coast for his followers to be massacred by nigerian army and the same party founded by ojukwu you claim to love is grasping for breath while you are embracing PDP created by fulanis all around.

mightyhaze:
I was mentally forming an adequate rebuttal b4 I read where u unnecessarily called out names of the first coup plotters,..nzeogwu and ifeajuna,while conveniently fogetting ademoyega and banjo!



Why shd I waste mental energy on som1 who mischievously refers to goodluck jonathan an ijaw man 4m ssouth,as an igbo man.

Clear!

kingzizzy:
Asking Igbos and Yorubas to unite is like asking oil and water to mix, not possible. The problem the OP has is that he is still trying to see Igbo/Yoruba from the context of 'Nigeria'

To understand why Yoruba and Igbo will never unite, one has to go back to when there was no Nigeria. What kind of people were Igbos and Yorubas?

History tells us that the Yorubas have never been able to exist alone. They once chased an empire from present day Nigeria to Togo. This 'empire creating' nature of Yorubas has never left them. Igbos on the other hand never had an empire and had no desire have one. The Igbo man is republican, egalitarian and very independent.

Unfortunately for Igbos, of the 3 main ethnic groups, Igbos are the only ones who are not empire creators and thats why Yorubas will continually unite with the Hausa/Fulani oligarchy of the North to undemine Igbos.

Yorubas and Hausa/Fulani are going to fight forever to keep the empire of Nigeria without caring about if the empire works of if Igbos want it.

Yorubas are no friends of us Igbos and we Igbos are fully aware of their antics. A people who threw away their right of self deternination to uphold the empire of Nigeria cannot be trusted

ConqueredWest:



This is why Yorubas always fool themselves that Nigeria is a great country

Their empire building nature is influencing them

Even Awo jettison his secessionist dream due to this nature

You are a deep thinker to have identify this nature of them


You earn my respect as a deep thinker

kingzizzy:


Well at least Ojukwu fought for 3 years before absconding. Unlike Awolowo and Adeyinka Adebayo who bowed down to Gowon and the Gambari masters without even a single protest.

mightyhaze:
It's simple,..yorubas shd give igbos unalloyed support and solidarity for igbos to rule,dis will earn dem igbo trust. Because the problem here is yoruba betrayal over the years from 1966 to date!

Igbos have actually forgiven yoruba tracheary,by supporting obj to rule for atleast 8yrs under civil rule,..and have allowed yorubas and hausas to rule in peace during military era. Igbos too hav supported hausa fulani candidates atleast twice under civil rule viz shagari and yaradua rules.

The only logical/reasonable thing 2 do now is to gv igbos unwavering support 2 rule. By so doing,nigeria will not only be doin the only just thing,but will be giving itself an opportunity 2 be revamped and set on d road 2 greatness,since the great igbo tribe has been tested and found 2 possess that touch of midas!


Finally igbos don't hate yorubas,..they just not ready 2 be stabbed at the back again and again,..so they being quite cautious! The onus is on yorubas 2 redeem their image b4 the igbo race they have so actively schemed against for atleast 51years!

ElsonMorali:


Stop fooling yourselves.

Ojukwu fought a war to further his ambitions of ruling Nigeria, otherwise he won't have left the east. He would have stayed there to defend his territory.

But no, he sacrificed millions of Igbo lives to achieve his ambition.

Even a 20years old student, Bruce Mayrock set himself ablaze in front of the UN building in support of Biafra, yet your leader, sighting the opposition army from afar ran away to another country with his tail between his legs. leaving you lot to die.

Check these links and educate yourself:

http://spectatorarchive.library.columbia.edu/cgi-bin/columbia?a=d&d=cs19690603-01.2.8&e=------

https://www.nairaland.com/3121131/biafra-hero-20years-old-man

ElsonMorali:


Lol. Good at least you're not denying the fact that majority of the names I put there are Igbo.

It is your trade mark here to cry and whine and form "persecuted".

It is because of people like you that we will continue to frequent this forum to debunk your lies.

We are aware that there are non Nigerians on this forum.

To keep quiet in the face of your lies is to have them misinformed about the true state of things.

Most of them don't know that you guys are masters of deception and you're known for producing some of the worst history revisionists this country has ever known. People like Chinua Achebe.


Bring it on, we are here to counter you.


As for Goodluck Jonathan being Ijaw or Igbo, well you may want to read what your leader and master said on radio Biafra:

http://newsrescue.com/breaking-goodluck-jonathan-igbo-president-nigeria-radio-biafra/

kingzizzy:


Well at least Ojukwu fought for 3 years before absconding. Unlike Awolowo and Adeyinka Adebayo who bowed down to Gowon and the Gambari masters without even a single protest.

kingzizzy:
Asking Igbos and Yorubas to unite is like asking oil and water to mix, not possible. The problem the OP has is that he is still trying to see Igbo/Yoruba from the context of 'Nigeria'

To understand why Yoruba and Igbo will never unite, one has to go back to when there was no Nigeria. What kind of people were Igbos and Yorubas?

History tells us that the Yorubas have never been able to exist alone. They once chased an empire from present day Nigeria to Togo. This 'empire creating' nature of Yorubas has never left them. Igbos on the other hand never had an empire and had no desire have one. The Igbo man is republican, egalitarian and very independent.

Unfortunately for Igbos, of the 3 main ethnic groups, Igbos are the only ones who are not empire creators and thats why Yorubas will continually unite with the Hausa/Fulani oligarchy of the North to undemine Igbos.

Yorubas and Hausa/Fulani are going to fight forever to keep the empire of Nigeria without caring about if the empire works of if Igbos want it.

Yorubas are no friends of us Igbos and we Igbos are fully aware of their antics. A people who threw away their right of self deternination to uphold the empire of Nigeria cannot be trusted

wristbangle:


Sometimes when I hear the word " the yorubas stabbed the igbos at the back", am like how exactly because from your point of view, some of you twist the story to make it look as if it was a betrayal.

I agree igbos in a way have been sidelined for too long but somehow you guys are too rigid in political affairs. An indigene from SS region was an ex president was voted massively by SW in 2011 presidential election which he won. He lost 2015 election because of his shameless leadership and since then igbos have been crying wolf SW betrayed them (Is he an igbo?, you people are even crying more than the bereaved sef) but I can't say the fulani goro who won is working neither. It's just like the decision btw the devil and the deep blue sea.

By 2019 if igbos can field someone competent to rule, I will gallantly vote for him. I would have preferred rochas okorocha due to the fact that he is a political neutral man but he has not earned that respect enough as he is not living up to the task for imolites. Someone like obiano would make sense but I sense he maybe biased.

I just want good leadership in this country and I don't care wherever tribe he or she comes from.

kingzizzy:


Well at least Ojukwu fought for 3 years before absconding. Unlike Awolowo and Adeyinka Adebayo who bowed down to Gowon and the Gambari masters without even a single protest.

Aufbauh:
Human unity is a pervasive illusion and not a feasible reality.
The experience in the biblical tower of Babel should have taught anyone that the pursuit of human unity is an elusive phenomena.

Two people can't think alike because of their varying competitive interest talk more of a group of people.
Interest is the driving force in any common struggle. That is why togetherness is not oneness.

It is instructive to know that the anchor behind the Hausa-Fulani taking over power is not necessarily the unity among them but their capacity to collaborate and improvise amongst others with common interest.

kingzizzy:


Ojukwu fought to rule Nigeria? Is that what they told you?

I dont need to check links, I know who Bruce Mayrock is.

The real thing to think about is that when the Northerner decided to take over Nigeria, Igbos under Ojukwu, Azikiwe, Dr Okpara etc declared the East a separate country and fought for 3 years to keep it


Yorubas under Awolowo, Adebayo etc surrendered straughtway to a small boy called Gowon


Now who is more of the coward in this scenario?

Ovamboland:


Do not be under any illusion that Igbos have ever supported Yoruba candidate in any election. Ibos rejected the candidate of the Yorubas, Olu Falae and voted en mass for the Fulani cum military choice Obasanjo. In June 12 1993, Abiola lost the Ibo vote to Tofa a fulani man. In the struggle to chase away the military from power championed by Yorubas, over 95% of Ibo elites and politicians joined the military to fight Yoruba, collecting contracts, appointments and yearning for extended military rule, until Yoruba strategy worked at discrediting the military/Fulani/Ibo position and making rule by force untenable.

Unlike Yorubas who voted for Ibo candidate GEJ in the 2011 election, there's no record of Ibos interest ever converging with Yoruba. It appears whenever Yoruba takes a position on any matter Ibos become duty bound to oppose it as a duty. Even during the Jonathan conference, Ibos opposed state police championed by Yorubas years before the meeting. Today Ibos like everyone else now call on the Fulani led federal Police and Army to save them from Fulani herdsmen, how Ironic

Jetleeee:


Lololol this guy That your profile picture just dey make me laugh

How far with all those your Yoruba.Muslims, play.diary, afonja.head.hunt, tigerclaw, accounts, and the other ones you were using to post nasty pictures.

Have they all been banned?

aribisala0:
Again more Eboe lies, suicidal behaviour is not bravery. Ojukwu's war was the zenith of folly.
Eboes are the ones who tried to take over Nigeria a misadventure which we are still paying for to this day. Eboes introduced coups to Nigeria. It was an Eboe that abrogated fiscal federalism and introduced unity government. Whilst Ironsi was in power Ojukwu had no problem with decree 34 and unitary government. You folk always think you are smarter than everyone when the exact opposite is the case
If Eboes are so smart why are they oppressed in Nigeria ?
Is that not like the case of the chicken that believes it knows more than the person that put it in a cage ,makes it lay eggs daily and takes the eggs away yet the chicken insists it is smarter

Ovamboland:


And you forgot Azikiwe and ibo elites teamed up with Fulani abokis to jail Awolowo on trumped up charges when he was fighting impunity in government as leader of opposition.

Awolowo had legal backing as leader of opposition yet your people did not join him in southern solidarity but you expected him to lead his people to join Ojukwu and ibo in his illegal misadventures

kingzizzy:



All this is beside the point. The point is that during the counter coup, the Northerners went to Ibadan and killed the Governor of the Western Region, chased away the man who should have been head of state, Brigadier Ogundipe, a Yoruba man. The Northerners then dissolved the 4 Regions and 12 states were created.

It was plain to see that the Northerners were plotting the domination of Nigeria.

Yorubas should have been angry that their Governor was slaughtered in Yorubaland. They should have been angry that their most high ranking officer was driven out of Yoruba land and out of his righful place as head of state by the Northerners. They should have been angry that their western Region was dissolved.

All Yorubas could do was meekly bow down to the Gambari Northern Lords and say " Dear Northerners, I cant fight for my sovereignty. Spare my life and I will agree to one Nigeria"

Overnight, Awolowo became deputy to Gowon who was young enough to be his son and Colonel Adebayor was reduced to saluting Gowon who was by far his junior in the Army.

Yorubas were held hostage in their own land after their Governor, FA Fajuyi was slaughtered like a Chicken.

But Ojukwu refused to deliver his people to Northern domination. He stood up for them and fought for 3 years. If Igbos were going to go down, it would not be without a fight

Yorubas surrendered like slaves to the Gambari Lords

To this day, the average Yoruba man is proud of himself for surrendering without putting up a fight and thinks that Ojukwu who fought for three years is a coward.

It is only in the mind of a Yoruba man that someone like Ojukwu who fought for 3 years is a coward while him that s
urrendered without a fight is brave

I laugh in Igbo

pazienza:
The next election was in 1979 and exactly the
same thing happened then and in 1983 by which
time even Ojuju had returned and joined NPN. So in
summary the first 4 governments we had were
coalitions of the North and South East.


In the 1979 elections. Igbos voted for the Igbo candidate, Azikiwe, Yorubas voted for Yoruba candidate, Awolowo, the North voted for Shagari.
Your lies are petty. Igbos voted no Arewa in 1979.

What happened was that Igbos were VP to both Awolowo and Shagari in the 1979 elections.

The NPN won the presidential election but couldn't win enough seats in the NASS to form the central government, so they invited NPP( Zik party) to form a coalition with them after the election, to form the central government and the process conceded the Speaker position to NPP.

In 1983, Zik again won the presidential election votes in Igboland, Igbos voted for Zik and not Shagari, who by the way got more votes in Oyo state than he got in Imo state.

Ojukwu was free to join any party of his choice. He wasn't in good terms with Zik, so that ruled out NPP, and he wasn't going to join Yorubas, that left NPC by default as the only option.

aribisala0:
if you are too young ask your elders.The speaker house of reps Edwin UmeEzeoke was from NPP Ziks party because Zik did a deal with Shagari who did not have a majority in either house. Zik did a deal to give Shagari that
Majority .Did Ojuju not join NPN When he returned from exile?
You are the one lying. I never said EBOES VOTED ARE. I chose my words carefully so do not misrepresent them.I talked about the behaviour of your political lsaders a day the direction they have led the Eboes which has alwaya beenot to cut deals with a book is for a bowl of pottage

aribisala0:
if you are too young ask your elders.The speaker house of reps Edwin UmeEzeoke was from NPP Ziks party because Zik did a deal with Shagari who did not have a majority in either house. Zik did a deal to give Shagari that
Majority .Did Ojuju not join NPN When he returned from exile?
You are the only email lying. I never said EBOES VOTED ARE. I chose my words carefully so do not misrepresent them.I talked about the behaviour of your political lsaders a day the direction they have led the Eboes which has alwaya beenot to cut deals with a book is for a bowl of pottage

pazienza:


Lol! I had already stated the above. Shagari already secured the presidential seat without Igbo help.

NPN as a party needed to control the NASS but didn't have the majority, so it naturally went into Coalition with NPP that finished 3rd, leaving UPN as the opposition.

The coalition was after the election and not before the elections.

What would you have had NPP do in 1979? Form a coalition with Awolowo UPN that already lost? Lol!

Awolowo and Yorubas we know cut a deal with Military dictators of Arewa in 1967 and were the most vocal in calling for Igbo extermination during the war. Something they had continued to do till now all over the internet as they chant for NA and NPF to shoot innocent Biafran protesters.