TayserMahiri:


The adventure must be very skewed in favor of the most mismanaged and populated countries in the world. You will find a very high correlation between the 'adventurers' and bad governance where they come from. There is what would count as normal adventure, and then there is China and Nigeria. I am sure you know why citizens from these two countries just cannot wait to move out. If its not communist control in china, poverty and pollution, its some other bad reason. Nigeria on the other hand its quite the same, too many people with systems overstretched, terrorism wrecking havoc, an economy in recession and of course leadership that is really probably the most wanting in Africa.

What about the Lebanese? Are they also a populated nation?

Nowenuse:


Ignorance. Yet millions of people all over the world still board plane tickets and visas yearly to go to China for tourism, trade, schooling and business purposes than most developing countries. Who is fooling who?

So in your educated opinion, there are more people from other parts heading to China, than there are Chinese leaving China to live elsewhere.
The number is incomparable. Chinese leave China in droves and when they do, they never go back home. Thats why you will see them selling just about anything on the streets including maize. Some even sleep on the streets of Nairobi, because it is still better than going back.
Those who go to China on the other hand go for temporary business, or tourism, or schooling but not to stay, and those who do stay are still too few and most likely of Nigerian descent.

TayserMahiri:


The Warren Buffets of Nigeria I know do not seem like people who can watch Davido grabbing a woman's boooty. I am not sure Dangote would waste time on such when he has a beautiful wife.

Look at these pictures below. The richest black man in the world (Dangote) left his house to meet P-Square (africa's richest home-based entertainers) in their own house to discuss important issues (definitely on the greatest entertainment industry in Africa).
So, u see, Nigerian entertainers are stinky filthy rich and big players worldwide and have much to offer other than their music worldwide.

Nowenuse:


What about the Lebanese? Are they also a populated nation?

Lebanon is another example of humans poorly handling matters. There is so much religious division in Lebanon which results in street fights and terror. I am sure you've heard of Hezbollah, Lebanon is home. It does not have to be population, it can be mismanagement as well and when the two combine like in Nigeria's case, you have people willing to die just to get outside of the country.

Nowenuse:


Look at these pictures below. The richest black man in the world (Dangote) left his house to meet P-Square (africa's richest home-based entertainers) in their own house to discuss important issues (definitely on the greatest entertainment industry in Africa).
So, u see, Nigerian entertainers are stinky filthy rich and big players worldwide and have much to offer other than their music worldwide.

Good to see, you know I respect Dangote so much, I cannot say anything negative where he is mentioned.

However, I heard that P-Square moved base and now live in America? Please confirm, because that would be something else.

TayserMahiri:


Lebanon is another example of humans poorly handling matters. There is so much religious division in Lebanon which results in street fights and terror. I am sure you've heard of Hezbollah, Lebanon is home. It does not have to be population, it can be mismanagement as well and when the two combine like in Nigeria's case, you have people willing to die just to get outside of the country.

Lebanon has a HDI above every country in Africa and they a fluorishing middle economy, so u are not making any sense. Apart from the oil rich arab countries, Lebanon is ahead of others in the arab world, street battles or whatever notwithstanding.
Is America not famous for street battles too? With all the Gangsters and drug pushers there? America still has high murder rates than many countries in the world. So you are not making any sense!

Nowenuse:


Lebanon has a HDI above every country in Africa and they a fluorishing middle economy, so u are not making any sense. Apart from the oil rich arab countries, Lebanon is ahead of others in the arab world, street battles or whatever notwithstanding.
Is America not famous for street battles too? With all the Gangsters and drug pushers there? America still has high murder rates than many countries in the world. So you are not making any sense!

I would expect you to know better that Seychelles has a better HDI than that Lebanon you love.
Maybe you want to compare religious attacks of christians by muslims in Lebanon to gang violence in America but that is only the same to a Nigerian.
No one would compare the two.
Most Lebanese became adventurers to West Africa when their country was very fuccked back in the days.
The same migration happening now from Nigeria because things are now as fuccked up as they were in Lebanon back then.

I wonder why Nigerians border themselves about these Kenyans looking for relevance. Every reasonable Nigerian knows we are far ahead of Kenya in any form of development. I don't blame the IPOB youth that support the Kenyans because their region lack many basic infrastructure am sure many those negative comments came from those that have never left their villages to major cities.

Comparing Kenya with only 2 cities to Nigeria with over 40 cities developing at the same time is a disgrace. The population of Nairobi is just 3 million and the surrounding towns will bring the population to about 6 million. Now tell us where the other Kenyans live? Could it be in villages or bushes where they jump from tree to tree drinking animal blood?

Please don't forget that Nairobi which is Kenya's capital have the largest slum in Africa with over 1.2 million inhabitant. Another report which i posted here earlier shows Nairobi has almost 200 slums and this is the major reason why UN habitat HQ have to be located in Nairobi Kenya.

The self deceiving Kenyans should be ashamed to talk where Nigerians gather. The biggest project since your independence is a 400 kilometer railway line from mombasa to Nairobi which is expected to put Kenya in Great debt.

A very irrelevant country that claims 2000mw of electricity provide 47 million people 24 hours electricity. Now you begin to wonder if industries even exist there at all. Ghana produce over 2000mw of electricity and with just about 25 million people still complain of power sometimes.


You Kenyans are free to keep deceiving yourselves, but the relevance you are looking for will put you in more shit. You Guys should know by now that most Nigerians don't even see you as a relevant country.

iblawi:
I wonder why Nigerians border themselves about these Kenyans looking for relevance. Every reasonable Nigerian knows we are far ahead of Kenya in any form of development. I don't blame the IPOB youth that support the Kenyans because their region lack many basic infrastructure am sure many those negative comments came from those that have never left their villages to major cities.

Comparing Kenya with only 2 cities to Nigeria with over 40 cities developing at the same time is a disgrace. The population of Nairobi is just 3 million and the surrounding towns will bring the population to about 6 million. Now tell us where the other Kenyans live? Could it be in villages or bushes where they jump from tree to tree drinking animal blood?

Please don't forget that Nairobi which is Kenya's capital have the largest slum in Africa with over 1.2 million inhabitant. Another report which i posted here earlier shows Nairobi has almost 200 slums and this is the major reason why UN habitat HQ have to be located in Nairobi Kenya.

The self deceiving Kenyans should be ashamed to talk where Nigerians gather. The biggest project since your independence is a 400 kilometer railway line from mombasa to Nairobi which is expected to put Kenya in Great debt.

A very irrelevant country that claims 2000mw of electricity provide 47 million people 24 hours electricity. Now you begin to wonder if industries even exist there at all. Ghana produce over 2000mw of electricity and with just about 25 million people still complain of power sometimes.


You Kenyans are free to keep deceiving yourselves, but the relevance you are looking for will put you in more shit. You Guys should know by now that most Nigerians don't even see you as a relevant country.

Sore loser.
No one would seek relevance from Nigerians, not even people from Niger. You are now using Ghana do defend yourself.
Tell us about your electricity, and the generator fumes. Leave Ghana out of this. They are busy doing their country a favor by developing.
And what are you doing? Using their development to boast.

Nowenuse:


If u say Nigerian entertainment lacks quality, does it mean that all other Africans including u Kenyans have no taste of quality at all? because our entertainment is also patronised by your people and even a source of inspiration to your artistes.
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No matter the quantity of Chinese or Indian productions or how large their market is. it still does not rival the powerfulness and fame of American productions. So what exactly are you saying? Since SA is more advanced than Nigeria as we all think, why is their entertainment industry not ahead of Nigeria just the way Hollywood remains far ahead of Bollywood and Chinese entertainment industry? Why?

Nigerians are bribing some Kenyan stations for airplay.

Let's not forget the recent awards whereby a reknown Nigerian artist rigged out a Tanzanian artist just to be labeled the best something in Africa. Nigerians have been rigging all those awards apparently.

Bollywood verses Hollywood is a good comparison of Nollywood versus South African production. The difference is quality !!!!!!!!! Good things safe not hurried.

TayserMahiri:




Sore loser.
No one would seek relevance from Nigerians, not even people from Niger. You are now using Ghana do defend yourself.
Tell us about your electricity, and the generator fumes. Leave Ghana out of this. They are busy doing their country a favor by developing.
And what are you doing? Using their development to boast.

We are not seeking relevance my dear we already have that.

I only used Ghana to prove that its impossible for 2000mw to provide 25 million people 24 hours electricity as only 80% of them have to power.

Electricity in Nigeria can't be compared with what you have in Kenya. Our industries speak for us. FYI, generating power from generators is another source of power.

I believe the education is really worse that we though. i never used Ghana to boast i only used Ghana to prove you don't have electricity as you claimed. except you are telling us that over 70% of Kenyan don't have access to power.

iblawi:


We are not seeking relevance my dear we already have that.

I only used Ghana to prove that its impossible for 2000mw to provide 25 million people 24 hours electricity as only 80% of them have to power.

Electricity in Nigeria can't be compared with what you have in Kenya. Our industries speak for us. FYI, generating power from generators is another source of power.

I believe the education is really worse that we though. i never used Ghana to boast i only used Ghana to prove you don't have electricity as you claimed. except you are telling us that over 70% of Kenyan don't have access to power.

I said relevance in response to a Nigerian (whom you quoted) who said we were seeking relevance. Not the other way round.
We would not bother with relevance, not when Kenya produced Obama.
It is different when a large percentage of people use generators in their homes, because even healthwise, that is a disaster.
Not to mention that I watched an international channel (i think Al Jazeera) the other day showing how gangs steal oil, and refine it in the most crude means possible, using fire on rotten drums. The whole point is that if this is the oil you guys use in your generators at home, man I can't help but wonder. What a health calamity

That People migrate out of their country does not necessarily mean that they are poor. They might be looking for opportunities in areas where they feel the locals of that country cannot compete with them. That is the Story of Nigeria. We believe that while we can make a million dollars in our country, we can make even a billion if we migrate to those countries where the locals no dey use their Kidney. That is why you see us in other African Countries dominating them to the extent that it provokes envy on the part of the less-able locals as we see today in South-Africa.
And to further put a nail in the coffin of the argument that it is out of economic difficulty that we travel out, most Nigerians you see in other African countries are from the Southern part of Nigeria which is more economically viable than 95% of African countries and maintains a higher standard of living than most. Why will Southern Nigerians live their region and go to areas which are less viable on the African continent if what they running from is economic difficulty?

TayserMahiri:


I said relevance in response to a Nigerian (whom you quoted) who said we were seeking relevance. Not the other way round.
We would not bother with relevance, not when Kenya produced Obama.
It is different when a large percentage of people use generators in their homes, because even healthwise, that is a disaster.
Not to mention that I watched an international channel (i think Al Jazeera) the other day showing how gangs steal oil, and refine it in the most crude means possible, using fire on rotten drums. The whole point is that if this is the oil you guys use in your generators at home, man I can't help but wait wonder. What a health calamity

In what way have producing Obama impacted on Kenya?

Sometimes you need not ask some kind of questions. In Nigeria we use almost 40 million liters of fuel daily, please tell me how many thousand liters of fuel do those boys produce per day from the rotten drums?

FYI, another refinery that can produce 55 million liters of fuel is already coming up with several other modular refineries.

Muafrika2:


Nigerians are bribing some Kenyan stations for airplay.

Let's not forget the recent awards whereby a reknown Nigerian artist rigged out a Tanzanian artist just to be labeled the best something in Africa. Nigerians have been rigging all those awards apparently.

Bollywood verses Hollywood is a good comparison of Nollywood versus South African production. The difference is quality !!!!!!!!! Good things safe not hurried.

Lets just say Nigerians do a good job of entertaining us with the illogical drama in their movies. I am tempted to think most of Nigeria movie lovers love them because of the sheer absurdity in those movies. And the witchcraft. There is something entertaining about things that don't make sense. Especially if you are less educated. Little wonder the only people I hear talking about the naija movies are house maids, who understand little of the nigerian pidgin but love the voodoo antics. You don't expect the maids to be able to follow Hollywood series/ movies. And unfortunately for them, South Africa no longer makes 'The Gods Must be Crazy' and 'Sarafina' types these days and kenyan movies do not target the very lowly educated. Lucky for them, they have Nigeria.

Maduawuchukwu:
That People migrate out of their country does not necessarily mean that they are poor. They might be looking for opportunities in areas where they feel the locals of that country cannot compete with them. That is the Story of Nigeria. We believe that while we can make a million dollars in our country, we can make even a billion if we migrate to those countries where the locals no dey use their Kidney. That is why you see us in other African Countries dominating them to the extent that it provokes envy on the part of the less-able locals as we see today in South-Africa.
And to further put a nail in the coffin of the argument that it is out of economic difficulty that we travel out, most Nigerians you see in other African countries are from the Southern part of Nigeria which is more economically viable than 95% of African countries and maintains a higher standard of living than most. Why will Southern Nigerians live their region and go to areas which are less viable on the African continent if what they running from is economic difficulty?

They don't know 80% of Nigeria's GDP is from the south, well educated people with very low poverty rate.

iblawi:


In what way have producing Obama impacted on Kenya?

Sometimes you need not ask some kind of questions. In Nigeria we use almost 40 million liters of fuel daily, please tell me how many thousand liters of fuel do those boys produce per day from the rotten drums?

FYI, another refinery that can produce 55 million liters of fuel is already coming up with several other modular refineries.

Knowing Nigerians, with their love for shortcuts and cheap things, I would not be surprised that the cheap fuel from those boys is usually the top priority for powering homes through the night cheaply.
The mainstream fuel comes second.
I am happy to hear you are making another refinery, thumbs up. Now, if only there was a way to make those naija leaders invest the oil money they will steal right in nigeria. Because I am pretty sure average nigerians see such oil facilities coming up quite often, and the economy stagnating or deteriorating at the same time, leaving them to wonder where is the disconnect.

TayserMahiri:


Lets just say Nigerians do a good job of entertaining us with the illogical drama in their movies. I am tempted to think most of Nigeria movie lovers love them because of the sheer absurdity in those movies. And the witchcraft. There is something entertaining about things that don't make sense. Especially if you are less educated. Little wonder the only people I hear talking about the naija movies are house maids, who understand little of the nigerian pidgin but love the voodoo antics. You don't expect the maids to be able to follow Hollywood series/ movies. And unfortunately for them, South Africa no longer makes 'The Gods Must be Crazy' and 'Sarafina' types these days and kenyan movies do not target the very lowly educated. Lucky for them, they have Nigeria.

I don't know if there is any need to educate you or just let you be?

Muafrika2:


Nigerians are bribing some Kenyan stations for airplay.

Let's not forget the recent awards whereby a reknown Nigerian artist rigged out a Tanzanian artist just to be labeled the best something in Africa. Nigerians have been rigging all those awards apparently.

Bollywood verses Hollywood is a good comparison of Nollywood versus South African production. The difference is quality !!!!!!!!! Good things safe not hurried.

Am sure Nigerians have being rigging their sales too.

They bribe Kenyans to buy and listen to their music.

Nigerians must be very rich.

iblawi:


Am sure Nigerians have being rigging their sales too.

They bribe Kenyans to buy and listen to their music.

Nigerians must be very rich.

The last time I checked, even the Nigerian musician's concerts are organised by Nigerians. It's Nigerians hustling hard for the Kenyan market. I want to believe that by sales you mean earnings from concerts. Most of them come and disappoint. Davido came heavily drugged sometime ago (is that guy a dealer Btw? I would not be surprised ) Some other guy a few days ago could not perform for just a few minutes before running out of all the songs he had ever written.

Only Nigerian female singers try

iblawi:


They don't know 80% of Nigeria's GDP is from the south, well educated people with very low poverty rate.

You are talking like this is something to be proud of. The fact you mentioned above is actually a sad one.
Maybe put it this way, 80% of Nigeria's GDP is from the south, while an equivalent amount of terror is from the north. Well balanced now. The southerners make the money, while the northerners create the terror. Now, then what. Are you planning to split into two nations? Maybe tell us that, so that we know early enough that soon we'll be having two new nations. Until then, nigeria is nigeria. I am sure the poor northerners are patriotic too and would not take your statement kindly.

iblawi:


I don't know if there is any need to educate you or just let you be?

Educate me on what?

Muafrika2:


The last time I checked, even the Nigerian musician's concerts are organised by Nigerians. It's Nigerians hustling hard for the Kenyan market. I want to believe that by sales you mean earnings from concerts. Most of them come and disappoint. Davido came heavily drugged sometime ago (is that guy a dealer Btw? I would not be surprised ) Some other guy a few days ago could not perform for just a few minutes before running out of all the songs he had ever written.

Only Nigerian female singers try

Don't be surprised to find that most of these RECENT artists are involved in the drug business so popular with naija peoples. They cannot be compared with the likes of 2Face. The recent generation of naija artists will do just about anything to make money. I don't know what it is all about, but naija people have become synonymous with scam. If you do not take care, you guys will develop a gene for scam.

TayserMahiri:


.... If you do not take care, you guys will develop a gene for scam.

There is a strong possibility that it's genetic.

Maduawuchukwu:
That People migrate out of their country does not necessarily mean that they are poor. They might be looking for opportunities in areas where they feel the locals of that country cannot compete with them. That is the Story of Nigeria. We believe that while we can make a million dollars in our country, we can make even a billion if we migrate to those countries where the locals no dey use their Kidney. That is why you see us in other African Countries dominating them to the extent that it provokes envy on the part of the less-able locals as we see today in South-Africa.
And to further put a nail in the coffin of the argument that it is out of economic difficulty that we travel out, most Nigerians you see in other African countries are from the Southern part of Nigeria which is more economically viable than 95% of African countries and maintains a higher standard of living than most. Why will Southern Nigerians live their region and go to areas which are less viable on the African continent if what they running from is economic difficulty?

I didn't know kidneys play a role in money-minting, except when selling them, which is probably what you mean.
I dot not see the envy you are talking about. Who envies people involved in crime and scam?
Since southerners of nigeria go to other less-able areas of Africa, why don't the same Southerners flock to the less-able north to do what they do in the less-able areas of Africa? I'm sure they'd make billions there too. The northern locals surely no dey use their Kidney.

TayserMahiri:


Yes Nigerians, your work is to entertain us! Just like the niggas of USA entertain their white folk over there.

Ha ha.

Nowenuse:


Our states have their own internally generated revenues independent of the federal govt which is added with the normal federal allocation to the state to produce the state budget.
Arguing with u guys is not going to change that reality.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/11/23/kano-state-government-proposes-n209-8bn-for-2017-budget/

That's only 50 bn ksh or 500 mn$ for at least 12 mn people.

This thread is still active

Okay, Let me add to my Kenyan Brothers and Sisters

Performance on logistics in terms of transport and trade in Air,Land,Sea ...measured and ranked by worldbank.... This is one way of knowing who has invested more and is efficiently managing her infrastructure

http://lpi.worldbank.org/international/global
Logistics Performance Index (LPI) is an interactive benchmarking tool created to help countries identify the challenges and opportunities they face in their performance on trade logistics and what they can do to improve their performance. It is the weighted average of the country scores on the[b] following six key dimensions[/b]: efficiency of the clearance process (i.e. speed, simplicity and predictability of formalities) by border control agencies, including Customs; Quality of trade and transport related infrastructure (e.g. ports, railroads, roads, information technology); Ease of arranging competitively priced shipments; Competence and quality of logistics services (e.g., transport operators, customs brokers); Ability to track and trace consignments; Timeliness of shipments in reaching destination within the scheduled or expected delivery time. This measure indicates the relative ease and efficiency with which products can be moved into and inside a country. Germany and Singapore are the most efficient and highest ranked LPI countries.

1: South Africa is first in Africa and number 20 globally.

2: Kenya comes in 2nd and ranks 42nd globally.

3: And the "giant of Africa" is a distant number 90 !!! globally

MtuMsuper:

Add south sudanese to the list of arrogant foreigners who insult their hosts, yet they have absolutely nothing back home. I especially dislike the Somalis who are full of BS on an epic scale! Imagine someone called Abdi Ogle calling you ugly! hehehe Just in case you didnt know, they call kenya africans nywele ngumu.

I know ALLLLLLL the issues those cousin fvuckers suffer from! I swear each of their delusions is funnier than the other one. We madh madhou (hard hair) treat their many medical issues (ever been to Upper hill medical centre?) then they convince themselves we need them?!!
DAHH FUQ!?

naijalander:
I feel like most people do not have a full mental picture of what Nigeria actually is. Like every specie of humanity, you have the good, the bad and the ugly, Nigeria is not exempted. However for some reason, the people, being a mix of of remnants of dead empires have managed to find a new identity forged from inter cultural communication. Nigerians Exceptionalism is not a product of boasting of a few advancements and achievements as a nation, it is a product of hard work, tolerance, dedication by these remnant. Nigerian society is more than just mere potential, she is a Giant asleep whose snoring (the 419,drugs and prostitutes) is loud and upsets the neighborhood (Africa, the world).

You're back! I thought we told you you're no more exceptional than Djibouti or Swaziland what with the mountain of REAL stats we Kenyans uncovered? Must we go over them again?

TayserMahiri:


Therefore, the official government position is that since they have failed their citizens miserably, the churches will develop Nigeria.
Give me a list of developed nations that got there via charity work, Nigeria style.
You need to know today, because you might never have an opportunity to be told, that the owners and bosses of those churches are raking in millions and giving to charity money for hoodwinking the ignorant masses like yourself.
Ask some of those employees how much they are paid for whatever they do, and compare that to what the mega pastors make.

Once again, the owners of those churches are just like your government officials.
I don't remember where I read this but a story goes that Stalin, the Soviet leader once got a chicken, plucked off all its feathers as it cuckled in pain bleeding and let it go. Once it was on the ground running away he started to throw it chicken feed and it came back running.
That is exactly what those church owners do, they throw you remnants after making millions from you and you think it is such a favor.

Excellent analysis! Btw, I recently read that Stalin story and its true.