Nowenuse:


Ma guy i dey tell u.
It's only online we see black south africans talking poo about a united country as if it looks all rosy among themselves. These black 2nd class citizens think they can fool us. Blacks, whites and coloureds do not live in the same neighbourhoods in SA and seldom do things together. The rate of interracial marriage in the country is very low, so damn all those bullshits these zulu people are telling u here. The whites still look down on the blacks as Bleep.

You see, one reason i do not like to compare Nigeria and SA is because, SA is the product of the white man unlike Nigeria which is entirely the product and pride of the black man.
Do u know that even with all the govt policies the presidents have been enacting to favour SA blacks economically, yet the whites who are about 10% of the country still control over 80% of the country's wealth? This tells you that the GDP per capital and GDP of Black South Africa is no different from Zimbabwe, Malawi or Mozambique! What a shame! These lazy zulus are just doing 'dege dege dem go dey pose' with the infrastructure the whites set up in the country and nothing more, claiming Europe of Africa. That is why if you go to SA major cities like Capetown, Joburg, Pretoria e.t.c, you actually wonder if you are really in Africa or Subsaharan Africa or if truly SA is majority black, because you see mostly or majority white folks. If you are looking for the so called black majority, check the slums and interior villages and voila, there they are. So we all wonder what is the difference btw Black South Africans, Malawians, Congolese and Burundians?!

You are lying '' Lagos Boy'', The whites you saw are 100% part of us, they have been here with us for 100000 years, before you can even think about SA, , Always when you mention my people, I fail to understand why you want to divide my people, we are south africans brother, we are connected than you think, forget about the media, Number 2! You are lying when you said: '' Our main city belongs to one croup of south africans, Johannesburg, Pretoria, Durban and other south african cities you will found more blacks including '' FLAT HEADS'' on our street selling bananas and old shoes

TayserMahiri:




Sore loser.
No one would seek relevance from Nigerians, not even people from Niger. You are now using Ghana do defend yourself.
Tell us about your electricity, and the generator fumes. Leave Ghana out of this. They are busy doing their country a favor by developing.
And what are you doing? Using their development to boast.

Maduawuchukwu:
That People migrate out of their country does not necessarily mean that they are poor. They might be looking for opportunities in areas where they feel the locals of that country cannot compete with them. That is the Story of Nigeria. We believe that while we can make a million dollars in our country, we can make even a billion if we migrate to those countries where the locals no dey use their Kidney. That is why you see us in other African Countries dominating them to the extent that it provokes envy on the part of the less-able locals as we see today in South-Africa.
And to further put a nail in the coffin of the argument that it is out of economic difficulty that we travel out, most Nigerians you see in other African countries are from the Southern part of Nigeria which is more economically viable than 95% of African countries and maintains a higher standard of living than most. Why will Southern Nigerians live their region and go to areas which are less viable on the African continent if what they running from is economic difficulty?

is Lagos not in southern Nigeria?

Fidha254:
This thread is still active

Okay, Let me add to my Kenyan Brothers and Sisters

Performance on logistics in terms of transport and trade in Air,Land,Sea ...measured and ranked by worldbank.... This is one way of knowing who has invested more and is efficiently managing her infrastructure





1: South Africa is first in Africa and number 20 globally.

2: Kenya comes in 2nd and ranks 42nd globally.

3: And the "giant of Africa" is a distant number 90 !!! globally

Please dont kill these nigerians with the things that matter. No nigerian wants to hear things like performance.

kikuyu1:


Excellent analysis! Btw, I recently read that Stalin story and its true.

Oh, so it was a true story after all !! Good to know. It sounded like one of those pseudo stories people make up to drive a point across.

iblawi:
I wonder why Nigerians border themselves about these Kenyans looking for relevance. Every reasonable Nigerian knows we are far ahead of Kenya in any form of development. I don't blame the IPOB youth that support the Kenyans because their region lack many basic infrastructure am sure many those negative comments came from those that have never left their villages to major cities.

Comparing Kenya with only 2 cities to Nigeria with over 40 cities developing at the same time is a disgrace. The population of Nairobi is just 3 million and the surrounding towns will bring the population to about 6 million. Now tell us where the other Kenyans live? Could it be in villages or bushes where they jump from tree to tree drinking animal blood?

Please don't forget that Nairobi which is Kenya's capital have the largest slum in Africa with over 1.2 million inhabitant. Another report which i posted here earlier shows Nairobi has almost 200 slums and this is the major reason why UN habitat HQ have to be located in Nairobi Kenya.

The self deceiving Kenyans should be ashamed to talk where Nigerians gather. The biggest project since your independence is a 400 kilometer railway line from mombasa to Nairobi which is expected to put Kenya in Great debt.

A very irrelevant country that claims 2000mw of electricity provide 47 million people 24 hours electricity. Now you begin to wonder if industries even exist there at all. Ghana produce over 2000mw of electricity and with just about 25 million people still complain of power sometimes.


You Kenyans are free to keep deceiving yourselves, but the relevance you are looking for will put you in more shit. You Guys should know by now that most Nigerians don't even see you as a relevant country.

What do u expect? The irrelevant Kenyans refuse to allow this thread end.

I have told a Kenyan and now challenging them to tell me one aspect in which Kenya as a country affects the life of the average African or Black African at least, but the dude went absolutely mute on it.

Now, i am officially challenging Kenyans to tell me aspects, even one in which Kenya dominates the whole Africa or affects the life of the average African!

Muafrika2:


Nigerians are bribing some Kenyan stations for airplay.

Let's not forget the recent awards whereby a reknown Nigerian artist rigged out a Tanzanian artist just to be labeled the best something in Africa. Nigerians have been rigging all those awards apparently.

Bollywood verses Hollywood is a good comparison of Nollywood versus South African production. The difference is quality !!!!!!!!! Good things safe not hurried.

Just like the other guy asked u, have we also been bribing our sales and worldwide you-tube views? Now that American artistes are featuring our artistes, is that also bribe? Bad belle!

Muafrika2:


Nigerians are bribing some Kenyan stations for airplay.

Let's not forget the recent awards whereby a reknown Nigerian artist rigged out a Tanzanian artist just to be labeled the best something in Africa. Nigerians have been rigging all those awards apparently.

Bollywood verses Hollywood is a good comparison of Nollywood versus South African production. The difference is quality !!!!!!!!! Good things safe not hurried.

Don't drag SA into your display of ignorance. SouthAfricans love identifying with Nigerian entertainment.
Hollywood still has more sales and fame of their movies and music outside USA than Bollywood has outside India, hence American artistes being more rich and famous than Indian artistes.
So your analogy is completely flawed. Nigeria still has more number of rich, famous and succesful artistes and productions in Africa.

TayserMahiri:


Lets just say Nigerians do a good job of entertaining us with the illogical drama in their movies. I am tempted to think most of Nigeria movie lovers love them because of the sheer absurdity in those movies. And the witchcraft. There is something entertaining about things that don't make sense. Especially if you are less educated. Little wonder the only people I hear talking about the naija movies are house maids, who understand little of the nigerian pidgin but love the voodoo antics. You don't expect the maids to be able to follow Hollywood series/ movies. And unfortunately for them, South Africa no longer makes 'The Gods Must be Crazy' and 'Sarafina' types these days and kenyan movies do not target the very lowly educated. Lucky for them, they have Nigeria.

Yes, Kenyans mostly watch the Epic Nollywood movies. That's why we produce both urban and Epic movies and sitcoms for various classes of viewers.
Nollywood still has the biggest urban movies of the continent and our movies are being nominated internationally for awards

Just30:
is Lagos not in southern Nigeria?

Yes it is. Wetin happen?

Nowenuse:


What do u expect? The irrelevant Kenyans refuse to allow this thread end.

I have told a Kenyan and now challenging them to tell me one aspect in which Kenya as a country affects the life of the average African or Black African at least, but the dude went absolutely mute on it.

Now, i am officially challenging Kenyans to tell me aspects, even one in which Kenya dominates the whole Africa or affects the life of the average African!

Just to follow along on your deflectionary reaction. You might have heard of M-Pesa? Tell me one country that has it better than kenya. Kenya is not known as a cashless economy for no reason. I heard that Mobile money was tried in nigeria but failed because the central bank of naija feared money laundering and was concerned about losing control.
Hahhaaa
I guess nigerian government loses control of everything. Their biggest fears these days is about losing control.

Meanwhile M-pesa is as far south as South Africa, Egypt, India, Europe and a whole list of other countries. If you did not know, you can send money with mpesa anywhere in the world. If its not possible to send to nigeria I am sure you know why! Fear of loss of control . I am sure you are still using paypal and western union. On mobile money, we do not dominate Africa, we dominate the entire planet.

I am waiting for your next deflection.

TayserMahiri:



You are talking like this is something to be proud of. The fact you mentioned above is actually a sad one.
Maybe put it this way, 80% of Nigeria's GDP is from the south, while an equivalent amount of terror is from the north. Well balanced now. The southerners make the money, while the northerners create the terror. Now, then what. Are you planning to split into two nations? Maybe tell us that, so that we know early enough that soon we'll be having two new nations. Until then, nigeria is nigeria. I am sure the poor northerners are patriotic too and would not take your statement kindly.

Nigeria is Nigeria

TayserMahiri:


I didn't know kidneys play a role in money-minting, except when selling them, which is probably what you mean.
I dot not see the envy you are talking about. Who envies people involved in crime and scam?
Since southerners of nigeria go to other less-able areas of Africa, why don't the same Southerners flock to the less-able north to do what they do in the less-able areas of Africa? I'm sure they'd make billions there too. The northern locals surely no dey use their Kidney.

I am from the North-central region of Nigeria and can tell you that Southernerns abound all over the north. Even in the poorest areas of the north u find them there doing business and most times they engage in businesses which we northern locals don't go about.

TayserMahiri:


Just to follow along on your deflectionary reaction. You might have heard of M-Pesa? Tell me one country that has it better than kenya. Kenya is not known as a cashless economy for no reason. I heard that Mobile money was tried in nigeria but failed because the central bank of naija feared money laundering and was concerned about loss of control.
Hahhaaa
I guess nigerian government loses control of everything. Their biggest fears these days is about losing control.

Meanwhile M-pesa is as far south as South Africa, Egypt, India, Eastern Europe and a whole list of other countries. If you did not know, you can send money with mpesa anywhere in the world. If its not possible to send to nigeria I a sure you know why! Fear of loss of control . I am sure you are still using paypal and western union. On mobile money, we do not dominate Africa, we dominate the entire planet.

I am waiting for your next deflection.

West Africa is the largest region in Africa, both in Gdp, Land, Population e.t.c and the average west African has never heard of Mpesa or whatever. So how exactly do you dominate the continent with that?

Nowenuse:


Yes, Kenyans mostly watch the Epic Nollywood movies. That's why we produce both urban and Epic movies and sitcoms for various classes of viewers.
Nollywood still has the biggest urban movies of the continent and our movies are being nominated internationally for awards

You might have to do a better job of advertising the Epic naija movies and sitcoms because I am yet to come across an actual epic naija movie. I once tried a naija ACTION movie and it almost killed me with laughter. I don't know, maybe it was mislabeled and should have been a Cringe or deadpan comedy.

Maduawuchukwu:

Nigeria is Nigeria

Agreed

Nowenuse:


I am from the North-central region of Nigeria and can tell you that Southernerns abound all over the north. Even in the poorest areas of the north u find them there doing business and most times they engage in businesses which we northern locals don't go about.

Like which one?

MPSA:


You are lying '' Lagos Boy'', The whites you saw are 100% part of us, they have been here with us for 100000 years, before you can even think about SA, , Always when you mention my people, I fail to understand why you want to divide my people, we are south africans brother, we are connected than you think, forget about the media, Number 2! You are lying when you said: '' Our main city belongs to one croup of south africans, Johannesburg, Pretoria, Durban and other south african cities you will found more blacks including '' FLAT HEADS'' on our street selling bananas and old shoes

Of course the whites are part of you. Aren't they your masters afterall? 10% of the population who control 80% of the economy and wealth. What else do you want to tell me?

Yes, your people in Joburg populate the slums while the whites dominate the city centre.

Nowenuse:


West Africa is the largest region in Africa, both in Gdp, Land, Population e.t.c and the average west African has never heard of Mpesa or whatever. So how exactly do you dominate the continent with that?

It is not our fault as kenyans that west africa is still in an informational dark age. I thought you knew Ghana successfully introduced Mpesa, and Ivory Coast, Liberia, Benin, Cameroon, Guinea Bissau and Guinea Republic all have M-Pesa. I guess they are all not in West Africa.

TayserMahiri:


Like which one?

Like the markets for Electronics, Foreign wears, Drugs and Medicines e.t.c

Nowenuse:


Like the markets for Electronics, Foreign wears, Drugs and Medicines e.t.c

What drugs? Please don't teach northerners illegal drugs business.

TayserMahiri:


It is not our fault as kenyans that west africa is still in an informational dark age. I thought you knew Ghana successfully introduced Mpesa, and Ivory Coast, Liberia, Benin, Cameroon, Guinea Bissau and Guinea Republic all have M-Pesa. I guess they are all not in West Africa.

West Africa has a population of about 350 million people and Mpesa does not have up to 1million customers in the entire region. So, how have they dominated or affected the life of the average west African?
Let's assume you Kenyans or E.Africans are the most informed Africans. How has that made East Africa better than W. africa? Bring another fact pls.

TayserMahiri:


What drugs? Please don't teach northerners illegal drugs business.

I am from the north, so you are making no sense.

Seriously i must say am confused.
With the kind of loud voices and arrogance Kenyans display, one would think Kenya is a very rich country.
However, Kenyan GDP per capital is still very low and no different or higher than the average African GDP per capital. Very terrible.

Nowenuse:


Of course the whites are part of you. Aren't they your masters afterall? 10% of the population who control 80% of the economy and wealth. What else do you want to tell me?

Yes, your people in Joburg populate the slums while the whites dominate the city centre.

You are lying You know nothing about my country For the sake of entertainment your sh*t is correct But in real life, our life is perfect, SA is our country and our life style is much.. much.. much.... Better compare to yours That is why your people are crazy about my country, SA is like paradise to your people, including you

Eish But now things aren't right

Nowenuse:


West Africa has a population of about 350 million people and Mpesa does not have up to 1million customers in the entire region. So, how have they dominated or affected the life of the average west African?
Let's assume you Kenyans or E.Africans are the most informed Africans. How has that made East Africa better than W. africa? Bring another fact pls.

Tell him to e-transact is Nigerian own and it is by far more successful than than the rubbish he called.

The Kenyans say too much rubbish. I still use mobile money everyday in Nigeria and am not limited to that cause I still use my mobile banking app to do any form of transaction online which is still not common in Kenya.

Kenyans use mobile money because the lack banking infrastructures.

Nowenuse:


West Africa has a population of about 350 million people and Mpesa does not have up to 1million customers in the entire region. So, how have they dominated or affected the life of the average west African?
Let's assume you Kenyans or E.Africans are the most informed Africans. How has that made East Africa better than W. africa? Bring another fact pls.

The only sad part about this statement is that M-pesa has not reached 51 % of West Africa, which is from one country called Nigeria.
Don't worry about the others that are yet to pick up mpesa in the other 49 %, because their governments have no fear of losing control over invisible money. Please, this is not ghost money nigerians.
The numbers in those open minded countries that have embraced m-pesa will jump up very fast. Once they comprehend the full benefits of being able to send money anytime, anywhere, to anyone, and being able to pay bills at any time, from anywhere, without being physically present and without ever needing to carry cash around corners of cities like Lagos.

Nowenuse:


I am from the north, so you are making no sense.

Whatever, the southerners should not teach the poor northerners drug trafficking. I love how you quickly denied being a southerner, most likely for your personal reputation.

MPSA:
Eish But now things aren't right

Why?

iblawi:


Tell him to e-transact is Nigerian own and it is by far more successful than than the rubbish he called.

The Kenyans say too much rubbish. I still use mobile money everyday in Nigeria and am not limited to that cause I still use my mobile banking app to do any form of transaction online which is still not common in Kenya.

Kenyans use mobile money because the lack banking infrastructures.

You are showing us your weaknesses without knowing. MTN mobile money in West Africa is through a partneship with Safaricom's M-Pesa. http://www.nation.co.ke/business/eMoney/Safaricom-MTN-partnership-Africa/1625712-2694198-yc82wo/index.html
Not to mention that your home grown Mobile money apps or whatever is hardly ever making it out of Nigeria.

Nowenuse:
Seriously i must say am confused.
With the kind of loud voices and arrogance Kenyans display, one would think Kenya is a very rich country.
However, Kenyan GDP per capital is still very low and no different or higher than the average African GDP per capital. Very terrible.

Only a nigerian would think kenya is a very rich country, we are not rich. We are heading there. The only reason we are here is because a nigerian came up with a topic that kenya is ahead of nigeria, and you have done little to prove it wrong. The only time you tried was with the GDP, and you couldn't fool anyone. Your statistics was proven to be as fake as nigerian oil money proceeds