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How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by oaroloye(m): 6:32pm On Apr 02, 2017 |
SHALOM! What Is Wrong That You Don't Know That Paul Is A FALSE CHRISTIAN (2)? PAUL'S MASTERPIECE OF DECEPTION IS THE THIRTEENTH CHAPTER OF THE FIRST EPISTLE TO THE CORINTHIANS. Therein, he happily CURSED YAHSHUA, while playing on the ignorance of TWENTY CENTURIES of so-called Christians, trusting that we would all be too stupid to understand what he was REALLY SAYING! . MATTHEW 23:1-3. THEN spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his Disciples, 2. Saying, "The Scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' Seat. 3. "All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, (that) observe and do; but do not ye after their Works: for they SAY, and DO not." . MARK 7:1-13. THEN came unto him the Pharisees, and certain of the Scribes, which came from Jerusalem. 2. And when they saw some of his Disciples eat bread with defiled, that is to say unwashen hands, they found hands. 3. For the Pharisees, and all the Jews, except they wash (their) hands oft, eat not, holding The Tradition of the Elders. 4. And (when they come) from the Market, except they wash, they eat not. And many other things there be, which they have received to hold, as the washing of cups, and pots, Brasen vessels, and of tables. 5.Then the Pharisees and scribes asked him, "Why walk not thy Disciples according to The Tradition of the Elders, but eat bread with unwashen hands?" 6. He answered and said unto them, "Well hath Esaias prophesied of you Hypocrites, as it is written, 'THIS PEOPLE HONOURETH ME WITH (THEIR) LIPS, BUT THEIR HEART IS FAR FROM ME. 7. 'HOWBEIT IN VAIN DO THEY WORSHIP ME, TEACHING (FOR) DOCTRINES THE COMMANDMENTS OF MEN.' 8. "For laying aside The Commandments of God, ye hold The Tradition of Men, (as) the washing of pots and cups: and many such like things ye do." 9. And he said unto them, "Full well ye reject The Commandment of God, that ye may keep your own Tradition. 10. "For Moses said, 'HONOUR THY FATHER AND THY MOTHER;' and, 'WHOSO CURSETH FATHER OR MOTHER, LET HIM DIE THE DEATH:' 11. "But ye say, 'If a man shall say to his father or mother, "(It is) Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me;" (HE SHALL BE FREE).' 12. "And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or mother. 13. "Making The Word of God of none effect through your Tradition, which ye have delivered, and many such like things do ye." PAUL WAS A PHARISEE, AND NEVER RENOUNCED PHARISEEISM. . ACTS 23:6. 6. But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the Council, "Men and Brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the Hope and Resurrection of the Dead I am called in question." PAUL RENOUNCED YAHSHUA THREE TIMES WITH THIS ONE UTTERANCE- AND NO OTHER CHRISTIAN CARES ABOUT IT! 1. He called the Pharisees his BRETHREN. 2. He said that he was STILL a PHARISEE. 3. He called a MAN ON THE EARTH his father. What other evidences that he was a PHARISEE UNDERCOVER AGENT this whole time? Well, let me chuck in these two grenades- see who dives out the Window-of-Oppenheimer? 4. He pretended not to know who the High Priest was at that Trial! 5. The High Priest and Pharisees all pretended not to recognize SAUL- their best AntiChristian Bounty-Hunter! LAY CHRISTIANS MUST GET THROUGH THEIR HEADS THAT ALL OF THEIR CLERGYMEN ARE COMPROMISED, AND CANNOT BE TRUSTED TO TELL THEM THE TRUTH! Why should they give up that POWER? . 1st CORINTHIANS 13:1-8. THOUGH I speak with the Tongues of Men and of Angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal. 2. And though I have the Gift of Prophecy, and understand all Mysteries, and all Knowledge; and though I have all Faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing. 3. And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing. 4. Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up, 5. Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil; 6. Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth; 7. Beareth all things, Believeth all things, Hopeth all things, Endureth all things. 8. Charity never faileth: but whether there be Prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be Tongues, they shall cease; whether there be Knowledge, it shall vanish away. FIVE YEARS INTO MY PENTECOSTAL EXPERIENCE, I ONE DAY EXPERIENCED TOTAL RECALL OF THE ENTIRE BIBLE. I had INSTANT ACCESS to any part of It. If I THOUGHT or HEARD any Topic, I INSTANTLY RECALLED Bible verses relevant to it. I spent the rest of my life trying to suppress it until 25 years ago- when I began to research NAGUALISM, and learned about SCIENTOLOGY. Only THEN did The Bible FULLY make sense to me, because it became obvious what GOD was trying to do, what SATAN was trying to do, and WHO IN THE BIBLE WAS LYING, and WHY. That is to say, I am NOT on the same level with some idiot who has not even READ The WHOLE Bible before- key alone REMEMBER what they have READ and HEARD. I mean: I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT! Everything Paul knew, is based on what he learned as a PHARISEE. The Pharisees had analyzed all of YAHSHUA'S TEACHINGS they heard, trying to find something they could use to execute him- but found nothing. YAHSHUA BROKE NO COMMANDMENTS OF GOD- SO THEY USED THEIR OWN MADE-UP COMMANDMENTS TO CONDEMN HIM WITH. If the CHARITY Doctrine came from THE PHARISEES, it would EXPLAIN EVERYTHING about HOW THE PHARISEES REJECTED YAHSHUA. THIS is the STANDARD they would use. In every interaction Yahshua had with the Pharisees, HE FAILS THE "CHARITY" TEST! "CHARITY," as defined by PAUL is completely BOGUS! That is NOT "AGAPE" at all. AGAPE- the Greek word translated "CHARITY" here, is THE LOVE OF GOD- which means, THE KEEPING OF GOD'S COMMANDNENTS. ALL CHRISTIAN MINISTERS are in a CONSPIRACY to HIDE the fact that "LOVE," in the NEW TESTAMENT, means: TO KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD. ROMANTIC LOVE- EROS- is NOT in the New Testament. 1 Like |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by thorpido(m): 6:42pm On Apr 02, 2017 |
You've come again with your heresy. 1 Like |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by Hawx(m): 6:48pm On Apr 02, 2017 |
This your epistle na awilo! I no dey understand anything there! |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by Nobody: 6:58pm On Apr 02, 2017 |
oaroloye:what is Nagualism? |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by JCBOY4LIFE: 7:12pm On Apr 02, 2017 |
You know nothing, btos abeg go sitdown for one corner and examine yourself. RUBBISH! 1 Like |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by Mummyjoy: 9:20pm On Apr 02, 2017 |
The spirit that have captured you is leading you to eternal destruction, I would have ignored you but for the sake of someone out there not to follow you to doom. All you do is read the Bible and allow Satan to give you wrong interpretation. Repent or you perish!!! |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by Horus(m): 2:19am On Apr 03, 2017 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PX8ge2afRzo Paul Hated Jesus & Had No Books Of His Own Lecture by Paa Nabab Yaanuwn |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by oaroloye(m): 8:03am On Apr 03, 2017 |
SHALOM! thorpido: I should be rejoicing that I am called a HERETIC! . ACTS 24:14. 14. "But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in The Law and in The Prophets: 15. "And have Hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a Resurrection of the Dead, both of the Just and Unjust." PAUL ALWAYS LIES OR DECEIVES IN HIS EVERY UTTERANCE. It is because the average Christians' minds are so SHALLOW, that they have been deceived in every Generation. What do I mean by "SHALLOW MIND?" Well, a "DAILY GUIDE" Bible Study Method that takes ONE VERSE out-of-context, and does NOTHING but repeat what the verse says in different words, maybe gives an example from life, and such, IS REGARDED AS A "GOOD" BIBLE STUDY GUIDE! The Rasberry of Reality is: THAT IS BULLSHIT! That is like feeding someone ONE GRAIN OF RICE- and say it MUST be NUTRITIOUS, because you COOKED it for AN HOUR! If you face the World in the strength of that ONE GRAIN OF RICE, you will be DEFEATED beyond what MICHAEL JACKSON described! JACK T. CHICK thought that reading TWENTY CHAPTERS of Scripture every day was a ONE-MAN REVIVAL! Then he told Novice Christians that they DIDN'T need to read THAT many- "JUST TEN" would "DO!" [See: THE NEXT STEP FOR GROWING CHRISTIANS, by Jack T. Chick.] Do WHAT? Enable you to sit blissfully in Church, while TERRORISTS are coming, COMPLETELY UNAWARE? If you want SERIOUS RESULTS from The Bible, you MUST read it SERIOUSLY! Do you know how to do that? I shared ORAL ROBERTS' TESTIMONY, of how he prayed to know HOW HE COULD KNOW JESUS, and he was ANSWERED: "READ MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE, JOHN, AND THE BOOK OF ACTS- THREE TIMES IN THIRTY DAYS!" In thirty years, I have NEVER even heard of anyone who has DONE this- outside of the KENNETH COPELAND FAMILY. NOT ONE NAIRALAND CHRISTIAN REPLIED ME, TO SAY: "EXCELLENT TESTIMONY, BROTHER!" That is how I knew that NONE of you are SERIOUS! You glorify ONE-VERSE Bible Studies because you HATE GOD, and HATE HIS WORD, and HATE YOUR NEIGHBOURS- whom you LEAVE TO DIE, saying: "EH, GOD DIDN'T GIVE US THE POWER- THEREFORE WE CAN DO NOTHING!" KNOWLEDGE IS POWER- and you have REJECTED Knowledge. . HOSEA 4:6. 6. "My people are destroyed for lack of Knowledge: because thou hast rejected Knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no Priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten The Law of thy God, I will also forget thy Children." THEREFORE YOU HAVE REJECTED POWER. When you read SINGLE VERSES, you NEVER develop beyond the ability to THINK IN VERSES. When you read ENTIRE CHAPTERS, you learn to THINK IN CHAPTERS. From there, you learn to THINK IN BOOKS. You DON'T just remember RANDOM VERSES anymore- you remember THE WHOLE MINISTRY of a PROPHET OF GOD. That is BELIEVING ON WHOM GOD SENT. When you believe in a modern preacher, you have to STOP AND IGNORE their ERRORS and FAILINGS- maybe they had a SEX-SCANDAL here, a POWER-TUSSLE there... their PRAYERS FAILED there... you have to ignore COVER-UPS... With YAHSHUA you DON'T have to PRETEND anything with him! EVERYTHING he SAID and DID was OF GOD. So why ABANDON HIM for some PROVEN LIAR? A PROVEN FAILURE whom Yahshua SAID was "FULL OF INIQUITY and EXCESS," and an EXPERT at LOOKING RIGHTEOUS OUTWARDLY, whereas, INWARDLY, being FULL OF EVIL! YAHSHUA said ALL Pharisees were THE SAME- that there were NO EXCEPTIONS! Since FALSE CONVERSION AND INFILTRATION is a KNOWN TACTIC of The Enemy, which senses do you lack, that you DON'T recognize it, when it is RIGHT BEFORE YOU? PAUL NEVER BELIEVED ALL THE LAW NOR ALL OF THE PROPHETS! That is the MOST OBVIOUS thing about his Ministry! . DEUTERONOMY 18:15-22. 15. The LORD that God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy Brethren, like unto me; UNTO HIM YE SHALL HEARKEN. 16. According to all that thou desitedst of The LORD thy God in Horeb in the Day of The Assembly, saying, "LET ME NOT HEAR AGAIN THE VOICE OF THE LORD MY GOD, NEITHER LET ME SEE THIS GREAT FIRE ANY MORE, THAT I DIE NOT." 17. And the LORD Said unto me, "They have well (spoken that) which they have spoken. 18. "I will raise them up a Prophet from among their Brethren, like unto thee, and will put My Words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall Command him. 19. "AND IT SHALL COME TO PASS, (THAT) WHOSOEVER WILL NOT HEARKEN UNTO MY WORDS WHICH HE SHALL SPEAK IN MY NAME, I WILL REQUIRE (IT) OF HIM. 20. "But the prophet which shall presume to speak a Word in My Name, which I have not Commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. 21. "And if thou say in thine heart, 'HOW SHALL WE KNOW THE WORD WHICH THE LORD HATH NOT SPOKEN?' 22. "When a prophet speaketh in The Name of The LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that (is) the thing which The LORD hath not spoken, (but) the Prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him." THE WORDS WHICH GOD SENT TO GUIDE THE WHOLE WORLD ARE THE WORDS WHICH YAHSHUA PREACHED ON EARTH TO HIS FIRST DISCIPLES. These Words will be in force, even after HEAVEN AND EARTH pass away! There is NO PROPHECY that says that THE Ha'MISHIACH was going to have CO-REDEEMERS, or ASSISTANT-SAVIOURS, who were going to REPLACE HIS MESSAGE WITH ANOTHER ONE! . MATTHEW 24:14. 14. "And THIS Gospel of The Kingdom shall be preached in all the World for a witness unto all nations; and then shall The End come." . MATTHEW 28:16-20. 16. Then the eleven Disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them. 17. And when they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted. 18. And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, "All Power is given unto me in Heaven and in Earth. 19. "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in The Name of The Father, and of The Son, and of The Holy Ghost: 20. "Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have Commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto The End of the World." Amen. |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by thorpido(m): 8:10am On Apr 03, 2017 |
oaroloye:SHALOM. May God help you. |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by oaroloye(m): 8:49am On Apr 03, 2017 |
SHALOM! Mummyjoy: That is a very bold claim. You do realize, that if I am led by THE SPIRIT OF GOD, then you have just committed BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY GHOST, for which you can NEVER be FORGIVEN- whether in THIS WORLD, nor the NEXT WORLD? Also, all Brethren who DARE SAY that THEY DON'T KNOW whether I am speaking FROM GOD or NOT- "LET'S WAIT AND SEE!" are GUILTY of THE SAME SIN! How DARE you say that YOU CANNOT TELL if GOD or SATAN sent someone: "IT COULD BE EITHER!"? . JOHN 12:44-50. 44. Jesus cried and said, "He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on Him that sent me. 45. "And he that seeth me seeth Him that sent me. 46. "I am come a Light into the World, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in Darkness. 47. "And if any man hear my Words, and believe not, I Judge him not: for I came not to Judge the World, but to Save the World. 48. "He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my Words, hath one that judgeth him: the Word that I have spoken, the same shall Judge him in The Last Day. 49. "For I have not spoken of myself; but The Father which sent me, He gave me a Commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. 50. "And I know that His Commandment is Life Everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as The Father said unto me, so I speak." THE WORDS YAHSHUA SPOKE ARE THE LAST DAY JUDGE- NOT THE WORDS OF PAUL! So what USE are they? God is NOT going to judge people because they didn't follow PAUL- people are judged because they didn't follow YAHSHUA'S WORDS! So OF WHAT BENEFIT are PAUL'S TEACHINGS? Name ONE BENEFIT or BLESSING that comes from USING PAUL'S TEACHINGS that HE SAID? He did not even SAY that there were BENEFITS from following HIS Teachings: that is a set-up for WHEN HE HAS TO ACCOUNT TO GOD, he will be able to say: "I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LEFT YOUR SON, AND FOLLOWED ME INSTEAD! I NEVER PROMISED THEM ANYTHING!" Search through his Teachings, and see for yourself: HE DOESN'T PROMISE US ANYTHING FOR FOLLOWING HIM. He spoke so CLEVERLY, that 2,000 years of Christians NEVER NOTICED. I would have ignored you but for the sake of someone out there not to follow you to doom. YOU DON'T REALLY CARE ABOUT ANY OF THOSE PEOPLE- OTHERWISE YOU WOULD HAVE SHOWN THEM THE BASIS FOR YOUR ACCUSATION THAT I AM A MESSENGER OF SATAN. All you do is read the Bible and allow Satan to give you wrong interpretation. SO, WHAT ARE THE RIGHT INTERPRETATIONS? In any event, I am PROVIDING YOU A SPOTLIGHT where you can STEP UP AND PREACH THE TRUTH, where you perceive I am LYING. WHY CAN'T YOU DO THAT? Why are you making PERSONAL ATTACKS and SLANDERING me? Where is THE WORD OF GOD you are supposed to be preaching? . MATTHEW 10:16-20. 16. "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. 17. "But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the Councils, and they will scourge you in their Synagogues. 18. "And ye shall be brought before Governors and Kings for my sake, for a Testimony against them and the Gentiles. 19. "But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20. "For it is not ye that speak, but The Spirit of your Father Which speaketh in you." WHEN YOU HAVE THE REAL SPIRIT OF GOD, YOU CANNOT BE STUCK FOR WHAT TO SAY! You would tell us "THUS SAITH THE LORD," if GOD were WITH YOU. You cannot, because you are a FAKE, and merely here to OBSTRUCT THE TRUTH I am exposing. Repent or you perish!!! There are THOUSANDS OF CHURCHES, following maybe a DOZEN different DOCTRINAL LINES: which one do you represent? Each of these lines can SAY that the OTHERS, that THEY are THE HERETICS, and THEIR OWN CHURCH and its ALLIES, are the ONE TRUE LINEAGE. We therefore know that you are LIARS, when you DENOUNCE MESSENGERS without saying WHICH CHURCH YOU REPRESENT! You are probably ROMAN CATHOLIC, out to OBSTRUCT the next PROTESTANT REVIVAL.
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Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by oaroloye(m): 8:51am On Apr 03, 2017 |
thorpido: If you do not help me, then you are part of THE ENEMY. |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by petra1(m): 9:03am On Apr 03, 2017 |
oaroloye: PAUL DIDN'T PRETEND. HE DIDN'T KNOW THE MAN WAS HIGH PRIEST Act 23:4 — Act 23:5 And they that stood by said, Revilest thou God's high priest? Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people. |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by thorpido(m): 10:14am On Apr 03, 2017 |
oaroloye:I wish to help you but you must be open to help too. |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by GoodMuyis(m): 11:26am On Apr 03, 2017 |
Jesus Wept
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Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by Nobody: 11:48am On Apr 03, 2017 |
oaroloye:How can this bring 30 billion to my account? I need light on how to make money not all this things you people are arguing |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by Mummyjoy: 1:59pm On Apr 03, 2017 |
He that being often reproved hardeneth his heart shall suddenly be cutoff and that without remedy. I rest my case, just hope you have not crossed the border line of no return. oaroloye: |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by oaroloye(m): 2:44pm On Apr 03, 2017 |
petra1: Which part of the word "PRETEND" did you not understand? You conveniently left out the part of my Statement where I said that THEY were pretending, too! It is NOT Justice, when you SEPARATE the parts of a man's Testimony, so that you can create Accusations, and make them look stupid! . ACTS 23:1-10. AND Paul, earnestly beholding the Council, said, “Men and Brethren, I have lived in all good conscience before God until this day.” 2. And the High Priest Ananias commanded them that stood by him to smite him on the mouth. 3. Then said Paul unto him, “God shall smite thee, thou whited wall: for sittest thou to judge me after The Law, and commandest me to be smitten contrary to The Law?” 4. And they that stood by said, “Revilest thou God's High Priest?” 5. Then said Paul, I wist not, Brethren, that he was the High Priest: for it is written, 'THOU SHALT NOT SPEAK EVIL OF THE RULER OF THY PEOPLE.' “ 6. But when Paul perceived that the one part were Sadducees, and the other Pharisees, he cried out in the Council, "Men and Brethren, I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee: of the Hope and Resurrection of the Dead I am called in question." 7. And when he had so said, there arose a dissension between the Pharisees and the Sadducees: and the multitude was divided. 8. For the Sadducees say that there is no Resurrection, neither Angel, nor Spirit: but the Pharisees confess both. 9. And there arose a great cry: and the scribes that were of the Pharisees' part arose, and strove, saying, “We find no evil in this man: but if a Spirit or an Angel hath spoken to him, let us not fight against God.” 10. And when there arose a great dissension, the chief captain, fearing lest Paul should have been pulled in pieces of them, commanded the soldiers to go down, and to take him by force from among them, and to bring him into the castle. YOUR "EVIDENCE" THAT PAUL DID NOT KNOW THAT ANANIAS WAS THE HIGH PRIEST IS BASED ON HIS OWN STATEMENT THAT HE DID NOT KNOW? How is that sensible? PAUL had participated in these procedures "countless times," ACCORDING TO HIM! . ACTS 26:8-11. 8. "Why should it be thought a thing incredible with you, that God should raise the dead? 9. "I verily thought with myself, that I ought to do many things contrary to the Name of Jesus of Nazareth. 10. "Which thing I also did in Jerusalem: and many of the Saints did I shut up in prison, having received authority from the Chief Priests; and when they were put to death, I gave my voice against them. 11. "And I punished them oft in every synagogue, and compelled them to blaspheme; and being exceedingly mad against them, I persecuted them even unto strange cities." . GALATIANS 1:13-14. 13. For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' Religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the Church of God, and wasted it: 14. And profited in the Jews' Religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the Traditions of my Fathers. PAUL WAS FAMILIAR WITH THE TRIAL PROTOCOLS, AND KNEW EVERYTHING THERE WAS TO KNOW ABOUT WHO HAD TO BE PRESENT DURING A TRIAL, AND WHO HAD THE AUTHORITY TO ORDER SOMEONE TO BE SLAPPED, WHIPPED, OR CLUBBED. He would have inflicted many of these smitings in person, too- on people now revealed to have been innocent. . ACTS 22:3-5. 3. "I am verily a man which am a Jew, born in Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, and taught according to the perfect manner of The Law of the Fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day. 4. "And I persecuted this way unto the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women. 5. "As also the High Priest doth bear me witness, and all the estate of the Elders: from whom also I received letters unto the Brethren, and went to Damascus, to bring them which were there bound unto Jerusalem, for to be punished." PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THERE WAS A PRICE-PER-HEAD ON EVERY PRISONER HE DELIVERED! This was NOT a FREE Service! This would be what he meant by "PROFITING IN THE JEWS' RELIGION ABOVE MANY HIS EQUALS." Shallow-minded Christians just SWALLOW these statements, and FORGET about them- because he said so many FLATTERING THINGS to them! BY HIS OWN TESTIMONY, he knew THE HIGH PRIEST, and ALL THE ELDERS- and THEY ALL KNEW HIM! So that, when he is on TRIAL for his LIFE- there is NO ONE who shouts out: "HEY! It's SPECIAL AGENT SAUL! What are we doing here? This is OUR man!" This was the man who delivered them more Jewish Christians than anyone else. There is NO WAY that they would not know him. This was consistent with a CHARADE, whereby THE PHARISEES knew that THIS was their DEEP-COVER AGENT, bound by OATH to DESTROY CHRISTIANITY BY-ANY-MEANS-NECESSARY- but the SADDUCEE ATHEISTS were NOT privy to their Secret Plan- so they had to PLAY ROLES where they EXTRACTED their valuable Agent, without showing anyone else that he was working for them. They could not, by a WORD, nor a GESTURE, nor EXPRESSION, show that this man was their Agent, and that everything he was doing was with their sanction. The Oyinbo Law-Enforcement/Intelligence Communities use similar tactics today. Given JEWISH INFLUENCE in "Oloyinbo," THIS was probably their MODEL. Of course, this was probably not the first time the Jews had used this tactic. So you see, PAUL WAS LYING when he said that he did not either recognize the High Priest, or that he WAS the High Priest. . MATTHEW 23:1-7. THEN spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his Disciples, 2. Saying, "The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3. "All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. 4. "For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. 5. "But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, 6. "And love the Uppermost Rooms at feasts, and the Chief Seats in the Synagogues, 7. "And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, 'Rabbi, Rabbi.' ” THE HIGH PRIEST should have had OSTENTATION and DEFERENCE that showed his RANK. THE HIGH PRIEST WAS A JOB FOR LIFE. So Paul HAD TO KNOW who he was. . NUMBERS 35:9-34. 9. And The LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 10. "Speak unto the Children of Israel, and say unto them, [b]'WHEN YE BE COME OVER JORDAN INTO THE LAND OF CANAAN; 11. 'THEN YE SHALL APPOINT YOU CITIES TO BE CITIES OF REFUGE FOR YOU; THAT THE SLAYER MAY FLEE THITHER, WHICH KILLETH ANY PERSON AT UNAWARES. 12. 'AND THEY SHALL BE UNTO YOU CITIES FOR REFUGE FROM THE AVENGER; THAT THE MANSLAYER DIE NOT, UNTIL HE STAND BEFORE THE CONGREGATION IN JUDGMENT. 13.' AND OF THESE CITIES WHICH YE SHALL GIVE SIX CITIES SHALL YE HAVE FOR REFUGE. 14. 'YE SHALL GIVE THREE CITIES ON THIS SIDE JORDAN, AND THREE CITIES SHALL YE GIVE IN THE LAND OF CANAAN, WHICH SHALL BE CITIES OF REFUGE. 15. 'THESE SIX CITIES SHALL BE A REFUGE, BOTH FOR THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL, AND FOR THE STRANGER, AND FOR THE SOJOURNER AMONG THEM: THAT EVERY ONE THAT KILLETH ANY PERSON UNAWARES MAY FLEE THITHER. 16. 'AND IF HE SMITE HIM WITH AN INSTRUMENT OF IRON, SO THAT HE DIE, HE IS A MURDERER: THE MURDERER SHALL SURELY BE PUT TO DEATH. 17. 'AND IF HE SMITE HIM WITH THROWING A STONE, WHEREWITH HE MAY DIE, AND HE DIE, HE IS A MURDERER: THE MURDERER SHALL SURELY BE PUT TO DEATH. 18. 'OR IF HE SMITE HIM WITH AN HAND WEAPON OF WOOD, WHEREWITH HE MAY DIE, AND HE DIE, HE IS A MURDERER: THE MURDERER SHALL SURELY BE PUT TO DEATH. 19. 'THE REVENGER OF BLOOD HIMSELF SHALL SLAY THE MURDERER: WHEN HE MEETETH HIM, HE SHALL SLAY HIM. 20. 'BUT IF HE THRUST HIM OF HATRED, OR HURL AT HIM BY LAYING OF WAIT, THAT HE DIE; 21. 'OR IN ENMITY SMITE HIM WITH HIS HAND, THAT HE DIE: HE THAT SMOTE HIM SHALL SURELY BE PUT TO DEATH; FOR HE IS A MURDERER: THE REVENGER OF BLOOD SHALL SLAY THE MURDERER, WHEN HE MEETETH HIM. 22. 'BUT IF HE THRUST HIM SUDDENLY WITHOUT ENMITY, OR HAVE CAST UPON HIM ANY THING WITHOUT LAYING OF WAIT, 23. 'OR WITH ANY STONE, WHEREWITH A MAN MAY DIE, SEEING HIM NOT, AND CAST IT UPON HIM, THAT HE DIE, AND WAS NOT HIS ENEMY, NEITHER SOUGHT HIS HARM: 24. 'THEN THE CONGREGATION SHALL JUDGE BETWEEN THE SLAYER AND THE REVENGER OF BLOOD ACCORDING TO THESE JUDGMENTS: 25. 'AND THE CONGREGATION SHALL DELIVER THE SLAYER OUT OF THE HAND OF THE REVENGER OF BLOOD, AND THE CONGREGATION SHALL RESTORE HIM TO THE CITY OF HIS REFUGE, WHITHER HE WAS FLED: AND HE SHALL ABIDE IN IT UNTO THE DEATH OF THE HIGH PRIEST, WHICH WAS ANOINTED WITH THE HOLY OIL. 26. 'BUT IF THE SLAYER SHALL AT ANY TIME COME WITHOUT THE BORDER OF THE CITY OF HIS REFUGE, WHITHER HE WAS FLED; 27. 'AND THE REVENGER OF BLOOD FIND HIM WITHOUT THE BORDERS OF THE CITY OF HIS REFUGE, AND THE REVENGER OF BLOOD KILL THE SLAYER; HE SHALL NOT BE GUILTY OF BLOOD: 28. 'BECAUSE HE SHOULD HAVE REMAINED IN THE CITY OF HIS REFUGE UNTIL THE DEATH OF THE HIGH PRIEST: BUT AFTER THE DEATH OF THE HIGH PRIEST THE SLAYER SHALL RETURN INTO THE LAND OF HIS POSSESSION. 29. 'SO THESE THINGS SHALL BE FOR A STATUTE OF JUDGMENT UNTO YOU THROUGHOUT YOUR GENERATIONS IN ALL YOUR DWELLINGS.'[/b] PRETENDING NOT TO RECOGNIZE HIM IS CONSISTENT WITH A CODE-SIGNAL- reminding the Pharisees of their Operation to pretend not to recognize THE SON OF GOD and his HERALD, John the Baptist. 1 Like |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by petra1(m): 3:38pm On Apr 03, 2017 |
oaroloye: IF PAUL SAI'D HE DID T KNOW. YOU SHOULD TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT SAYS . There were two highpriest's that year. One was according to law the other was politically chosen by Rome. |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by oaroloye(m): 4:15pm On Apr 03, 2017 |
petra1: PAUL GREW UP WITH THE PHARISEES. How could he not know what a HIGH PRIEST looked like? He also said that the High Priest and Elders all knew him. He was their biggest Bounty-Hunter. There were two highpriest's that year. What is your source of information? NAME them! One was according to law the other was politically chosen by Rome. The Bible says "THE HIGH PRIEST," not ONE OF THE HIGH PRIESTS. How can ROME appoint a High Priest? Or, if Rome appointed High Priests, how could THE PEOPLE appoint High Priests? What would be THE POINT? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Priest_of_Israel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_High_Priests_of_Israel . ACTS 18:12-16. 12. And when Gallio was the deputy of Achaia, the Jews made insurrection with one accord against Paul, and brought him to the judgment seat, 13. Saying, "This fellow persuadeth men to worship God contrary to the Law." 14. And when Paul was now about to open his mouth, Gallio said unto the Jews, "If it were a matter of wrong or wicked lewdness, O ye Jews, reason would that I should bear with you: 15. "But if it be a question of words and names, and of your Law, look ye to it; for I will be no judge of such matters." 16. And he drave them from the Judgment Seat. Does that sound like the Romans meddled in Ecclesiastical Affairs? You are just making excuses for your own Executioner. |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by In4matic: 9:17pm On Apr 03, 2017 |
Interesting. Back To the topic, i wont say it was a deliberate attempt to curse the messiah. But yes, the teachings of paul seemed at times at variance to the masters teachings. Some christian leaders i have pointed this phenomenon to have attributed it to the deeper revelations that paul had by virtue of the grace he carried. Afterall, scripture said i will have mercy on who i will have mercy abi? My question to the op however, if paul was an impostor, with whose power did he cast out devils that even a demon confirmed "yeshua i know, paul i know, who art thee? Please its a learning class, no harsh answers @ all. thanks |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by oaroloye(m): 7:19am On Apr 04, 2017 |
SHALOM! In4matic: It took me about fifteen years to get to the point where I began to understand that "THE APOSTLES" told DELIBERATE LIES in order to DELIBERATELY SABOTAGE those trying to reach Yahshua through them. . MARK 9:33-37. . MARK 10:13-16. As soon as Yahshua explained that LITTLE CHILDREN were THE GREATEST in The Kingdom of Heaven, his Disciples began OBSTRUCTING Little Children from reaching him. The ONLY POSSIBLE MOTIVE for that was to PREVENT HIM from Anointing their FUTURE SUPERIORS. That is the LEVEL of INTELLECT Yahshua's Disciples had. . ACTS 15:1-31. After Yahshua was out of the way, and couldn't tell them what to do and what not to do any more, his so-called Disciples, JAMES, and PAUL conspired with the other Jewish Christians to EFFECTIVELY BAN THE GENTILES FROM READING THE BIBLE. This is GLOSSED OVER in all the Churches. Some christian leaders i have pointed this phenomenon to have attributed it to the deeper revelations that paul had by virtue of the grace he carried. Afterall, scripture said i will have mercy on who i will have mercy abi? THIS IS A RHETORICAL TRICK, DECEIVING US BY ADDING "ALTITUDE" TO YOUR STATEMENT, BY CLAIMING THAT THE TEACHING COMES FROM "CHRISTIAN LEADERS." You don't NAME them, so that some readers, who are not smart, naïve, trusting, and inexperienced, may ASSUME that these "PHANTOM LEADERS" have AUTHORITY. If you came out and said that it was ROMAN CATHOLIC, ANGLICAN, EVANGELICAL, or JEHOVAH'S WITLESS (sic) "Christian" leaders who said that, PENTECOSTAL FULL-GOSPEL Christians would KNOW not to be deceived by people who HATE FULL-GOSPEL Believers. Therefore you hide their identities. . EXODUS 33:17-20. GOD'S MERCY IS NOT RANDOM. It is RIGHTEOUS. He does NOT "shew mercy" upon CRIMINALS. . NUMBERS 15:27-31. . MATTHEW 12:30-32. . MATTHEW 18:6. PAUL HAD COMMITTED UNPARDONABLE SINS. There was NO WAY for HIM to receive MERCY, because he NEVER REPENTED of what he did. My question to the op however, if paul was an impostor, with whose power did he cast out devils that even a demon confirmed "yeshua i know, paul i know, who art thee? First of all, YOU DO NOT EVEN KNOW that THAT incident EVER HAPPENED. In order to BUILD HIS "STREET-CRED," the Pharisees were perfectly capable of STAGING CHARADES. These were NOT CHRISTIANS, but JEWISH EXORCISTS. EVERY "Exorcism" they supposedly performed COULD HAVE BEEN FAKED for PUBLICITY PURPOSES- to build up Paul's Reputation among Christians. Don't we have people suspected of doing that, today? SECONDLY: Can you get any more DAFT? "I BELIEVE PAUL WAS A REAL CHRISTIAN, BECAUSE A DEVIL SAID SO!" Please its a learning class, no harsh answers @ all. thanks Why is this a "LEARNING CLASS?" Why haven't you learned this already? Yahshua SAID that THE CHURCH HAS ONLY ONE MASTER: HIMSELF. Why do I have to be WASTING MY PRECIOUS TIME in ARGUING over BASICS, when there are IMPORTANT ADVANCED CONCEPTS for us to get to? If you don't want HARSH, ABRASIVE REBUKES, shew INTELLIGENCE and HARD WORK! I already showed you people HOW TO READ: but you ALL ignored it, and waddled back to your MUD OF IGNORANCE! While people are DYING ALL AROUND THEM, for lack of THIS SPECIFIC KNOWLEDGE! |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by In4matic: 9:46am On Apr 04, 2017 |
Oaroloye, Take A chill pill. I dont appreciate being insulted. If this is how you reason, i think you wasted those fifteen years. So by your arguments all the appostles are hypocrates, half d events in the acts are devious lies. A demon lied when it admitted knowing paul but told d truth in the same breadth admitting knowlege of jesus. So which half of the bible do you think is fact and by whose authority? Abeg park well! 1 Like |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by oaroloye(m): 11:12am On Apr 04, 2017 |
In4matic: Comment again, when you learn correct Spellings and Grammar. |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by In4matic: 10:46pm On Apr 04, 2017 |
IF YOU HAVE ANY ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS GIVE THEM RATHER THAN BEING INSULTIVE. IF NOT I SUGGEST YOU KEEP QUIET ON ISSUES YOU DONT HAVE A GRASP TO. YOU THINK YOU CAN JUST PULL ANYTHING OFF YOUR HAT AND SHOVE IT DOWN OUR THROATS? While you are thinking of an answer, also think up how it was possible for paul to heal people by just handkies taken from him and used on the sick in the full glare of the public |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by petra1(m): 5:49am On Apr 05, 2017 |
oaroloye: For several reasons . Firstly The highpriesthood was no longer by succession after death . It was now yearly or even twice a year . It had become political by the Romans from the time of Jesus . Secondly Paul had been away from Jerusalem ministering to the gentiles for over 15 years or more . Thirdly the high priest only dress in his special robe for sacrifice . Ezekiel 44:19 19 And when they go forth into the utter court, even into the utter court to the people, they shall put off their garments wherein they ministered, and lay them in the holy chambers, and they shall put on other garments; and they shall not sanctify the people with their garments what is your source of information .Accordimg to Josephus .(Josephus, Antiquities, Book 20,8:5) It was believed by many that he was not the highpriest , for he had been deprived of this office by the Romans, and succeeded by Jonathan, after whose murder by Festus there occurred a period of vacancy in this office. During this vacancy Ananias usurped the office from which he had been expelled for his crimes. When Paul said that he was ignorant that he was the true high priest he was stating a fact sincerely; for, though his friends called him so, they could not invest him with the office (Josephus, Antiquities, Book 20,8:5). Some believed Paul no doubt thought that the person presiding was the sagan, or high priest's deputy, or some other person put in the seat for the moment. 1 Like |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by oaroloye(m): 8:16am On Apr 05, 2017 |
SHALOM! In4matic: YOU insult ME when you call ME a LIAR, DELUDED, MISTAKEN, or IGNORANT. . MATTHEW 5:21-26. 21. "Ye have heard that it was said by them of Old Time, 'THOU SHALT NOT KILL;' and 'WHOSOEVER SHALL KILL SHALL BE IN DANGER OF THE JUDGMENT: 22. "But I say unto you, 'THAT WHOSOEVER IS ANGRY WITH HIS BROTHER WITHOUT A CAUSE SHALL BE IN DANGER OF THE JUDGMENT: and whosoever shall say to his brother, 'RACA,' shall be in Danger of the Council: but whosoever shall say, "THOU FOOL," shall be in Danger of Hell Fire.' 23. "Therefore if thou bring thy Gift to the Altar, and there rememberest that thy Brother hath ought against thee; 24. "Leave there thy Gift before the Altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy Brother, and then come and offer thy Gift. 25. "Agree with thine Adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the Adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the Judge deliver thee to the Officer, and thou be cast into Prison. 26. "Verily I say unto thee, "THOU SHALT BY NO MEANS COME OUT THENCE, TILL THOU HAST PAID THE UTTERMOST FARTHING.' " When you call someone who is faithfully following YAHSHUA'S TEACHINGS a FOOL, it is YOUR Soul that is headed for HELL FIRE. Your BELIEFS AND WORDS have created a PRISON for you. . PROVERBS 13:10. 10. Only by Pride cometh Contention: but with the well advised is Wisdom. . MATTHEW 5:38-48. 38. "Ye have heard that it hath been said, 'AN EYE FOR AN EYE, AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH:' 39. "But I say unto you, 'THAT YE RESIST NOT EVIL: BUT WHOSOEVER SHALL SMITE THEE ON THY RIGHT CHEEK, TURN TO HIM THE OTHER ALSO.' 40. "And if any man will sue thee at the Law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also. 41. "And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain. 42. "Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away. 43. "Ye have heard that it hath been said, 'THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR, AND HATE THINE ENEMY.' 44. "But I say unto you, 'LOVE YOUR ENEMIES, BLESS THEM THAT CURSE YOU, DO GOOD TO THEM THAT HATE YOU, AND PRAY FOR THEM WHICH DESPITEFULLY USE YOU, AND PERSECUTE YOU;' 45. "That ye may be The Children of your Father Which is in Heaven: for He maketh His Sun to rise on the Evil and on the Good, and sendeth rain on the Just and on the Unjust. 46. "For if ye love them which love you, what Reward have ye? Do not even the publicans the same? 47. "And if ye salute your Brethren only, what do ye more than others? Do not even the publicans so? 48. "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father Which is in Heaven is Perfect." . MATTHEW 10:11-42. 11. "And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence. 12. "And when ye come into an house, salute it. 13. "And if the house be worthy, let your Peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you. 14. "And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your Words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. 15. "Verily I say unto you, 'IT SHALL BE MORE TOLERABLE FOR THE LAND OF SODOM AND GOMORRAH IN THE DAY OF JUDGMENT, THAN FOR THAT CITY.' 16. "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. 17. "But Beware of Men: for they will deliver you up to the Councils, and they will scourge you in their Synagogues; 18. "And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a Testimony against them and the Gentiles. 19. "But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. 20. "For it is not ye that speak, but The Spirit of your Father Which speaketh in you. 21. "And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death. 22. "And ye shall be hated of all men for my Name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. 23. "But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, 'YE SHALL NOT HAVE GONE OVER THE CITIES OF ISRAEL, TILL THE SON OF MAN BE COME.' 24. "The Disciple is not above his Master, nor the Servant above his Lord. 25. "It is enough for the Disciple that he be as his Master, and the Servant as his Lord. If they have called the Master of the house "Beelzebub," how much more shall they call them of his household? 26. "Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. 27. "What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops. 28. "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in Hell. 29. "Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? And one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father. 30. "But the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 31. "Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows. 32. "Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father Which is in Heaven. 33. "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father Which is in Heaven. 34. "Think not that I am come to send Peace on Earth: I came not to send Peace, but a Sword. 35. "For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 36. "And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. 37. "He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 38. "And he that taketh not his cross, and followeth after me, is not worthy of me." 39. "He that findeth his life shall lose it: and he that loseth his life for my sake shall find it. 40. "He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth Him that sent me. 41. "He that receiveth a Prophet in the Name of a Prophet shall receive a Prophet's Reward; and he that receiveth a Righteous Man in the Name of a Righteous Man shall receive a Righteous Man's Reward. 42. "And whosoever shall give to drink unto one of these little ones a cup of cold water only in the Name of a Disciple, verily I say unto you, . MATTHEW 18:1-14. AT the same time came the Disciples unto Jesus, saying, "Who is the greatest in The Kingdom of Heaven?" 2. And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, 3. And said, "Verily I say unto you, 'EXCEPT YE BE CONVERTED, AND BECOME AS LITTLE CHILDREN, YE SHALL NOT ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN.' 4. "Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in The Kingdom of Heaven. 5. "And whoso shall receive one such little child in my Name receiveth me. 6. "But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the Depth of the Sea. 7. "Woe unto the World because of Offences! For it must needs be that Offences come; but woe to that man by whom the Offence cometh! 8. "Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into Everlasting Fire. 9. "And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into Hell Fire. 10. "Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, 'THAT IN HEAVEN THEIR ANGELS DO ALWAYS BEHOLD THE FACE OF MY FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN.' 11. "For the Son of Man is come to Save that which was Lost. 12. "How think ye? If a man have an hundred sheep, and one of them be gone astray, doth he not leave the ninety and nine, and goeth into the mountains, and seeketh that which is gone astray? 13. "And if so be that he find it, verily I say unto you, 'HE REJOICETH MORE OF THAT SHEEP THAN OF THE NINETY AND NINE WHICH WENT NOT ASTRAY.' 14. "Even so it is not The Will of your Father Which is in Heaven, that one of these little ones should perish." SHALL I TELL YOU WHAT I "HAVE A GRASP OF?" The NAGUALISM Doctrine of SELF-IMPORTANCE- I have a grasp of THAT. SELF-IMPORTANCE (as Don JUAN MATUS told CARLOS CASTANEDA,) is the GREATEST ENEMY, even the ONLY ENEMY of the WARRIOR. SELF-IMPORTANCE requires us to live our lives, from day-to-day, ALWAYS ANGRY AT SOMEONE. Always FEELING INSULTED and OFFENDED by SOME. This locks one's ASSEMBLAGE POINT into ONE REGION, beyond which it CANNOT MOVE. That LIMITS one's ability to EXPERIENCE CREATION, because there are things one's CANNOT BELIEVE, THINK, SAY, OR DO- because one's SELF-IMPORTANCE REQUIREMENTS are HOLDING THEM BACK. Therefore, LOVING OUR NEIGHBOUR AS OURSELVES is A MASTER-KEY to EVERYTHING locked away from us in The Kingdom of Heaven. IF NOT I SUGGEST YOU KEEP QUIET ON ISSUES YOU DONT HAVE A GRASP TO. First of all, if I do not have a grasp of any issue, I either ask questions to find out, or else I don't talk about it. So, if I am talking about issues, it is because I have a grasp of them. How about YOU? YOU THINK YOU CAN JUST PULL ANYTHING OFF YOUR HAT AND SHOVE IT DOWN OUR THROATS? More or less. What- you are not humble enough to learn? KNOWLEDGE IS POWER- Francis Bacon. THERE IS NO KNOWLEDGE THAT IS NOT POWER- Ralph Waldo Emerson. . PROVERBS 1:1-7. THE Proverbs of Solomon the son of David, king of Israel; 2. To know Wisdom and Instruction; to perceive the Words of Understanding; 3. To receive the Instruction of Wisdom, Justice, and Judgment, and Equity; 4. To give subtilty to the Simple, to the Young Man Knowledge and Discretion. 5. A Wise man will hear, and will increase Learning; and a Man of Understanding shall attain unto Wise Counsels: 6. To understand a Proverb, and the Interpretation; the Words of the Wise, and their Dark Sayings. 7. The Fear of The LORD is The Beginning of Knowledge: but Fools despise Wisdom and Instruction. . HOSEA 4:6. 6. "My people are destroyed for lack of Knowledge: because thou hast rejected Knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten The Law of thy God, I will also forget thy children." . JOHN 8:30-32. 30. As he spake these Words, many believed on him. 31. Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, "If ye continue in my Word, (then) are ye my Disciples indeed; 32. "And ye shall know The Truth, and The Truth shall make you Free." YOU HAVE NOT SAID WHAT CHURCH, IF ANY, YOU REPRESENT. Your True Allegiances are kept secret, in order to deceive us, while you OBSTRUCT our Learning. You are protecting Roman Catholic Interests. While you are thinking of an answer, That is what you people do, isn't it- "think of an answer?" Yahshua's Disciples always speak THE TRUTH- so they don't have to "THINK OF" answers. If there is anything they do not know, THE HOLY GHOST will tell them. also think up how it was possible for paul to heal people by just handkies taken from him and used on the sick in the full glare of the public Your HATE for your Neighbours anchors your Assemblage Point, so that even simple facts become inaccessible to your mind, so that you will say such foolish things, as if you were a total novice. 1. YOU DO NOT KNOW THAT PAUL DID ANY OF THOSE THINGS. All you know is what his good buddy LUKE told you. Every Miracle he is said to have done may never have happened. The Pharisees had THOUSANDS of people they could have called upon to give FALSE TESTIMONIES that Paul had healed them, in order to ENHANCE HIS COVER, and BOOST HIS "STREET-CRED." This is a standard tactic of LAW-ENFORCEMENT/INTELLIGENCE UNDERCOVER OPERATIONS. Haven't you ever watched CSI, NCIS, MISSION IMPOSSIBLE, and such? You think me an ignorant conjurer of cheap tricks? 2. What did YAHSHUA SAY about such people? What are THE WORD OF GOD JUDGMENTS in this sort of thing? . DEUTERONOMY 12:32-13:5. 32. What thing soever I Command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it. IF THERE arise among you a Prophet, or a Dreamer of Dreams, and giveth thee a Sign or a Wonder, 2. And the Sign or the Wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, "LET US GO AFTER OTHER GODS, WHICH THOU HAST NOT KNOWN, AND LET US SERVE THEM." 3. Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that Prophet, or that Dreamer of Dreams: for The LORD thy God proveth you, to know whether ye love The LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. 4. Ye shall walk after The LORD your God, and fear Him, and keep His Commandments, and obey His Voice, and ye shall serve Him, and cleave unto Him. 5. And that Prophet, or that Dreamer of Dreams, shall be put to Death; because he hath spoken to turn (you) away from The LORD your God, Which brought you out of the land of Egypt, and redeemed you out of the House of Bondage, to thrust thee out of The Way which The LORD thy God Commanded thee to walk in. So shalt thou put the Evil away from the midst of thee. . MATTHEW 24:22-28. 22. "And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the Elect's Sake those days shall be shortened. 23. "Then if any man shall say unto you, 'LO, HERE IS CHRIST, OR THERE;' believe it not. 24. "For there shall arise False Christs, and False Prophets, and shall shew great Signs and Wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very Elect. 25. "Behold, I have told you before. 26. "Wherefore if they shall say unto you, 'BEHOLD, HE IS IN THE DESERT;' go not forth: 'BEHOLD, HE IS IN THE SECRET CHAMBERS;' believe it not. 27. "For as the lightning cometh out of the East, and shineth even unto the West; so shall also The Coming of the Son of Man be. 28. "For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. ALL REAL CHRISTIANS KNOW THAT YAHSHUA EXPLICITLY SAID THAT SIGNS AND WONDERS DO NOT PROVE THE AUTHENTICITY OF A MINISTRY. Your bringing up the alleged Miracles of PAUL is therefore a DELIBERATE DECEPTION. ORAL ROBERTS did such Healings- they do not vindicate his Ministry. NEAL FRISBY did such Healings- they do not vindicate his Ministry. MOSES forfeited his place in THE PROMISED LAND, when God told him to use THE WORD OF POWER, but instead, he used MEST. YAHSHUA told the Centurion, "Okay- I'll bring my MEST to Heal your servant?" The Centurion replied: "That won't be necessary, Lord- just your WORD OF POWER is all we need here!" Yahshua replied: "This Outsider understand FAITH more than any of you Covenant Children! That is how outsiders are going to fill The Kingdom of Gid, while YOU will be locked out!" (Or words to that effect.) WHATEVER PARTS OF YOU ARE HOLDING YOU BACK IN IGNORANCE AND DARKNESS THROUGH FEAR, HATE, ANGER, AND HOSTILITY- cut therm off, if you can't control them- they're not WORTH it! But you find, that, when you make the QUALITY DECISION to AMPUTATE whatever you cannot control, SUDDENLY, you FIND CONTROL. |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by In4matic: 8:46am On Apr 05, 2017 |
So it is ok for you sir, to call someone daft but when your own grasp of issues is put on the toast then you remember christ teaching not to call anyone a fool. Initially you called all disciples hypocrates who stopped children from assesing christ, now they only spoke the truth. Then again the writings of luke are lies. So therefore by extension the writings of the synoptic gospels which luke and others contributed to are also lies na abi? So remind me again on what parts of the gospel you believe. I thought you wanted to show me from scripture the basis of your beliefs only for you to Pull in Ralph Waldo Emerson Etc Into the topic. Haba!!! Get small sense of decorum and admit you are a phoney What are you sef? So now the boo |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by In4matic: 8:54am On Apr 05, 2017 |
So it is ok for you sir, to call someone daft but when your own grasp of issues is put on the toast then you remember christ teaching not to call anyone a fool. Initially you called all disciples hypocrates who stopped children from assesing christ, now they only spoke the truth. Then again the writings of luke are lies. So therefore by extension the writings of the synoptic gospels which luke and others contributed to are also lies na abi? So remind me again on what parts of the gospel you believe. I thought you wanted to show me from scripture the basis of your beliefs only for you to Pull in Ralph Waldo Emerson Etc Into the topic. Haba!!! Get small sense of decorum and admit you are a phoney What are you sef? MESSIANIC JEW, A STUDENT OF ABD RUSHIN, NAGASTIC WHATEVER OR A FREE THINKER You Are No Christian Nor Have You Followed Christ In A Looong time. You cannot say christ or his appostles be cursed and claim you have the spirit of God and vice versa. I dont want to continue with this discussion. RACCA |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by petra1(m): 9:19am On Apr 05, 2017 |
In4matic: Maybe he was a christian . A backslidden christian. One of the signs is to speak evil of dignitaries. Jude 1:8 8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities. 2 Peter 2:10 10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. Jesus converted Paul . The early church believed in him as his assignment . Peter , james and John recognized his call . Who art . . .whatever his name is to despise the ministry of Paul. |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by oaroloye(m): 9:22am On Apr 05, 2017 |
SHALOM! In4matic: (Hilarious Username!) That is not what Yahshua said. He was talking about people calling HIS OWN FOLLOWERS "FOOLS," and being angry with them, for following him. Initially you called all disciples hypocrates who stopped children from assesing christ, now they only spoke the truth. QUOTE MY EXACT STATEMENTS, and do not alter my language. Then again the writings of luke are lies. That again is not what I said. So therefore by extension the writings of the synoptic gospels which luke and others contributed to are also lies na abi? So remind me again on what parts of the gospel you believe. You will understand a lot better if you do not "extend," I thought you wanted to show me from scripture the basis of your beliefs only for you to Pull in Ralph Waldo Emerson Etc Into the topic. Haba!!! Get small sense of decorum and admit you are a phoney I also quoted FRANCIS BACON. He s all right, but Ralph Waldo Emerson isn't? Who said what us irrelevant, THE TRUTH OF HIS STATEMENT is what us important. "WHEN THE WISE MAN POINTS AT THE MOON, THE FOOL LOOKS AT HIS FINGER!" - Confucius. Pride prevents people from learning from people whom they hate. That is a danger of SELF-IMPORTANCE. Even LORD YAHSHUA allowed two Gentiles to tell him what his Powers were, when he had not previously known that he had had those abilities the whole time. If it were YOU, you would have said: "YOU CAN'T TEACH ME MY JOB!" and LOST the Power. That us what you are doing now, isn't it? What are you sef? MESSIANIC JEW, A STUDENT OF ABD RUSHIN, NAGASTIC WHATEVER OR A FREE THINKER . PROVERBS 28:1. THE Wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the Righteous are bold as a lion. THE LOVE OF GOD CANNOT BE COMPLETELY COUNTERFEITED. Servants of God happily Communicate The Truth of God. The Counterfeit Christians have NO MOTIVATING FORCE WITHIN, and therefore abandon Communications of their False Doctrines, when The Light Exposes their Lies, and they have noting to block It with! . JOHN 3:1-12. THERE was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 2. The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, "Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him." 3. Jesus answered and said unto him, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, 'EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN AGAIN,' HE CANNOT SEE THE KINGDOM OF GOD.' 4. Nicodemus saith unto him, "How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?" 5. Jesus answered, "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, 'EXCEPT A MAN BE BORN OF WATER AND OF THE SPIRIT, HE CANNOT ENTER INTO THE KINGDOM OF GOD.' 6. "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7. "Marvel not that I said unto thee, 'YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN.' 8. "The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit." 9. Nicodemus answered and said unto him, "How can these things be?" 10. Jesus answered and said unto him, "Art thou a master of Israel, knowest not these things? 11. "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, 'WE SPEAK THAT WE DO KNOW, AND TESTIFY THAT WE HAVE SEEN; AND YE RECEIVE NOT OUR WITNESS.' 12. "If I have told you Earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of Heavenly things?" I can say that Christ's Apostles are cursed, because they did not do what Yahshua sent them to do. They all died miserably, when Yahshua Promised no harm could come to his Disciples, nor would they ever see Death. . LUKE 10:17-24. 17. And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, "Lord, even the Devils are subject unto us through thy Name." 18. And he said unto them, "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from Heaven. 19. "Behold, I give unto you Power to tread on Serpents and Scorpions, and over all the Power of the Enemy: and nothing shall by any means hurt you." 20. "Notwithstanding in this rejoice not, that the spirits are subject unto you; but rather rejoice, because your Names are written in Heaven." 21. In that Hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, "I thank thee, O Father, Lord of Heaven and Earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto Babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in Thy Sight. 22. "All things are delivered to me of my Father: and no man knoweth who the Son is, but the Father; and Who the Father is, but the Son, and he to whom the Son will reveal him." 23. And he turned him unto his Disciples, and said privately, "Blessed are the eyes which see the things that ye see: 24. "For I tell you, 'THAT MANY PROPHETS AND KINGS HAVE DESIRED TO SEE THOSE THINGS WHICH YE SEE, AND HAVE NOT SEEN THEM; AND TO HEAR THOSE THINGS WHICH YE HEAR, AND HAVE NOT HEARD THEM.' " . JOHN 8:51-53. 51. "Verily, verily, I say unto you, 'IF A MAN KEEP MY SAYING, HE SHALL NEVER SEE DEATH.' " 52. Then said the Jews unto him, "Now we know that thou hast a devil. Abraham is dead, and the Prophets; and thou sayest, 'IF A MAN KEEP MY SAYING, HE SHALL NEVER TASTE OF DEATH.' 53. "Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the Prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself?" You cunningly implied that I said Christ was cursed, when I didn't. Clearly, you are a subversive element, supporting Roman Catholic interests. You have not addressed any of the points I made., but rather attacked whom I quoted, and defended who I exposed, without rendering any evidence to show they were not guilty. You exaggerated my statements in order to accuse me. . MATTHEW 22:15. 15. Then went the Pharisees, and took counsel how they might entangle him in his talk. . LUKE 11:53-54. 53. And as he said these things unto them, the scribes and the Pharisees began to urge him vehemently, and to provoke him to speak of many things: 54. “Laying wait for him, and seeking to catch something out of his mouth, that they might accuse him.” THIS HAS TO BE ONE OF THE MOST DESPICABLE WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO MAKE A LIVING. These sorts of people are always on the wrong side of History- so why do it? That is consistent with a SAINT-WORSHIPPER, who thinks he will get to Heaven by praying to Saints- because someone told them to. |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by oaroloye(m): 3:21pm On Apr 05, 2017 |
SHALOM! petra1: These are all good and excellent reasons. They are invalidated by these reasons. 1. PAUL was a JEW. How would a Jew not be interested in who the High Priest was? 2. PAUL allegedly had THE HOLY GHOST, Who would have told him what to say, and whom he was dealing with, within the hour. At the very least, He would never have directed him to curse anyone contrary to The Law. 3. ALL of the Hebrews were Commanded to wear special clothes. . NUMBERS 15:37-40. 37. And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying, 38. "Speak unto The Children of Israel, and bid them that they make them fringes in the borders of their garments throughout their generations, and that they put upon the fringe of the borders a ribband of blue: 39. "And it shall be unto you for a fringe, that ye may look upon it, and remember all The Commandments of The LORD, and do them; and that ye seek not after your own heart and your own eyes, after which ye use to go a whoring: 40. "That ye may remember, and do all My Commandments, and be holy unto your God." . MATTHEW 23:1-7. THEN spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his Disciples, 2. Saying, "The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: 3. "All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. 4. "For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. 5. "But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, 6. "And love the Uppermost Rooms at feasts, and the Chief Seats in the Synagogues, 7. "And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, 'Rabbi, Rabbi.' ” THESE PEOPLE WERE DRIVEN BY PRIDE. The High Priest would surely have something about his dress to show his superior rank. His Borders and Phylacteries were probably the biggest in the room. SELF-IMPORTANCE was where it was for these people. .Accordimg to Josephus .(Josephus, Antiquities, Book 20,8:5) It was believed by many that he was not the highpriest , for he had been deprived of this office by the Romans, and succeeded by Jonathan, after whose murder by Festus there occurred a period of vacancy in this office. During this vacancy Ananias usurped the office from which he had been expelled for his crimes. When Paul said that he was ignorant that he was the true high priest he was stating a fact sincerely; for, though his friends called him so, they could not invest him with the office (Josephus, Antiquities, Book 20,8:5). It doesn't matter who was presiding, Paul knew more than enough to respect him. He disobeyed Yahshua's explicit Commandment to observe whatever anyone in That Seat Bid him observe. FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS is not absolutely reliable, but there is no reason to doubt his facts in this matter. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus_on_Jesus This was a good and reasonable effort on your part. |
Re: How Could Paul CURSE YAHSHUA- And No Christian NOTICED? by oaroloye(m): 9:07am On Apr 07, 2017 |
eosigwe: Ironically, the very Information in the Block Quote you have just despised, if applied, would enable you to do exactly that- if that is what you really wanted. You could even OWN THE BANK, if you diligently applied the Knowledge. But you are foolishly short-sighted to be thinking in terms of TRYING TO ACCUMULATE MEST, instead of FIRST ACQUIRING THE CREATOR OF ALL MEST. What the Hell would you DO with 30 thousand million? A great deal of your energy and that money would be spent in WORKING TO KEEP IT. You would be unable to interact with people freely any more. Your relatives, friends, and neighbours would be targets of kidnap and assassination- just because of you. How would you solve all of those Problems? I don't think you would even care! Is that what you think LORD YAHSHUA died for?
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