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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 8:10pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
happney65: This post lacks basic common sense. If trump said we SHOULD HAVE taken the oil, that means the war wasn't about oil. Simple logic. If the war was about oil, how come Russia and France( the 2 countries who opposed the war) were buying most of the oil before the war and China is buying most of it after the war? 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 8:14pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
raumdeuter: OK then explain the exclusion of Afghanistan and inclusion of Iraq. Is the Iraq government supporting terrorism? |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 8:15pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Missy89: Ring a bell? ![]() |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 8:18pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Mindfulness: No it doesn't. |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by raumdeuter: 8:20pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
LordReed: You see where the knowledge gap is? How was Afghanistan excluded? Are you talking about the wars or what? Do you even know what you are talking about? |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 8:21pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
LordReed:. A large percentage of Iraq is under Isis control. By the way, Iraq is not on the new list ( significant territorial loss by ISIS there in recent weeks) |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 8:23pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Missy89: It's ok. Someone else will hear it. |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 8:27pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Neil Gorsuch on my mind ![]() |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 8:35pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Missy89: I just went through it there is nothing like terrorist hotspots in it. All it states is the people from such and such countries are temporarily banned from entry: I hereby proclaim that the immigrant and nonimmigrant entry into the United States of aliens from countries referred to in section 217(a)(12) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1187(a)(12), would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, and I hereby suspend entry into the United States, as immigrants and nonimmigrants, of such persons for 90 days from the date of this order (excluding those foreign nationals traveling on diplomatic visas, North Atlantic Treaty Organization visas, C-2 visas for travel to the United Nations, and G-1, G-2, G-3, and G-4 visas). SOURCE |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 8:36pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Missy89: And Afghanistan? |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 8:37pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
raumdeuter: Read and understand before you comment. |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 8:38pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
LordReed: Troops still there |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by vedaxcool(m): 8:38pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
[s] Missy89: [/s] vedaxcool: Mai Guardi is following her white supremacist role mode behavior, when you can't argue sensibly throw in religion and race in her pathetic case country ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 8:39pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Missy89: And there are no troops in Iraq? |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 8:39pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
"Assad has proven he is capable of chemical weapons attacks on his own citizens and the location and described circumstances of the attack suggest Syrian government action. However, as I carefully read news articles trying to identify the sources of information leading to that conclusion, I am hopeful that the NY Times is engaging in true investigative journalism, not relying on uncorroborated witness and US government statements. We need not to leap onto the type of bandwagon that got us into a protracted military action in Iraq over mythical WMD. The Trump administration has many reasons to want a distraction, particularly one that suggests his administration has no illicit ties to Russia, and the political theater leading to the missile attacks was readily apparent yesterday. I am not questioning Trump's sincerity at being horrified about what happened to the Syrian citizens in Idlib province. I am questioning his motives for unilaterally and rapidly launching 59 missiles into Syria without Congressional authorization or UN Security Council consensus, at a time when the international community will support a first US step toward going to a war in Syria. It may not be the exact war Trump wanted to fight in Syria, but he demonstrated clearly during the election cycle that he wants one. It is not at all clear the US going to war in Syria will do anything to help Syrian citizens. Accepting Syrian refugees into this country would clearly help." Pat Scatena San Francisco 4 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 8:45pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
"[...]Just as an aside, as someone who has worn the uniform, this is truly a sorry state of affairs when the lives of our military are on the line. But, what stands out to me in this article is the allegation that the Russians didn't bother to use their vaunted air defense systems even though they were given the heads up. If this is true, the Syrians must be doubting the faithfulness of their Russian allies. And we in the U.S. must doubt the necessity of the strike, the wasteful nature of using 59 cruise missiles to crater an air field and destroy a few MIGs that were already out of commission. Did Trump just launch a $100 million fireworks display to impress Assad, the Chinese, the North Koreans or the red state voters currently suffering from buyers' remorse?" Joe White Plains |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 8:46pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
LordReed: Iraq is no longer on the list |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 8:46pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Mindfulness: 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by vedaxcool(m): 8:47pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Missy89: ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 8:48pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Mindfulness: how many missiles does one need to blow up a runway? |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 8:48pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
LordReed: You need glasses. Same link had this in there The visa-issuance process plays a crucial role in detecting individuals with terrorist ties and stopping them from entering the United States. Deteriorating conditions in certain countries due to war, strife, disaster, and civil unrest increase the likelihood that terrorists will use any means possible to enter the United States. The United States must be vigilant during the visa-issuance process to ensure that those approved for admission do not intend to harm Americans and that they have no ties to terrorism. Sec. 3. Suspension of Issuance of Visas and Other Immigration Benefits to Nationals of Countries of Particular Concern. (a) The Secretary of Homeland Security, in consultation with the Secretary of State and the Director of National Intelligence, shall immediately conduct a review to determine the information needed from any country to adjudicate any visa, admission, or other benefit under the INA (adjudications) in order to determine that the individual seeking the benefit is who the individual claims to be and is not a security or public-safety threat. To temporarily reduce investigative burdens on relevant agencies during the review period described in subsection (a) of this section, to ensure the proper review and maximum utilization of available resources for the screening of foreign nationals, and to ensure that adequate standards are established to prevent infiltration by foreign terrorists or criminals, pursuant to section 212(f) of the INA, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f), |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 8:49pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
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Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Nobody: 8:53pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
oyb: One? |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by vedaxcool(m): 8:54pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Mindfulness: Ratings, Trump does not care about Syrians that is why he wants to keep them out of the US, someone who cares about your suffering won't be in a haste to lock you out of his house despite already putting in place stringent security measures... trump dysmal ratings needed a boost, he also needed to look tougher than Obama, and moving against Russia interest, what better way than use n opportunity served by assad... Trump won't go to war for Syrians or their dignity but he will strike Assad if it serves his interest squarely. This is not to say Assad didn't gas those kids but to say Trump being the morally depraved man that he is would have no qualms using such tragedy for his on political interest. Rebuplicans don't really care about people of the ME, the same Trump that welcomed Egypt president that is one of the worst violators of human rights suddenly wants to form big heart... yeah right tell that lie to Missy! ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 8:55pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
vedaxcool: Hey emotional kid, it is simple English. If bush intention was to take the oil and America won the war by ousting Saddam,Did bush change is mind about the oil after winning and gave the oil to China? 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 8:56pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Missy89:The Right Wing Hate machine in your party gets you line, hook and sinker to go low into religion. Someone is getting to Missy. 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by vedaxcool(m): 8:56pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Missy89: Emotional wreck, it is basic common sense, the Iraqis reaction made all the oil trouble look pointless! Aunty ruckus ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 8:58pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
vedaxcool: Emotional kid, if Bush didn't give a damn about what the world thinks and invade a country for oil, why do you think he gives a shite about what Iraqis have to say? You need a brain 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by LordReed(m): 9:00pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Missy89: We were having a civil discussion and then you decide to be condescending do you think that's the best?
Deteriorating conditions in certain countries due to war, strife, disaster, and civil unrest increase the likelihood that terrorists will use any means possible to enter the United States. How does this translate to terrorist hotspots? 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Missy89(f): 9:03pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
LordReed: If you can't comprehend simple English. That is not my problem 1 Like |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by vedaxcool(m): 9:05pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
Missy89: Emotional wreck aka mai guardi aka aunty ruckus of nairaland aka the woman who loves Trump behind, stop acting too stewpid for your age, oil is not software, it is easier to sabotage oil installations, hence the Iraqis didn't need to speak they simply just bombed, and bombed and bombed till you useless republican buffoon of all times realizes that the cost of moving out the oil is way too high to make any business sense being there. But what can I say you forget your puny brain in the bathroom here: www.nairaland.com/attachments/5121031_2q_jpeg922007f32c30c90ad26954ce68e57c68 ![]() |
Re: American Politics Lounge - Donald Trump Is US President-Elect ! by Lucasbalo(m): 9:06pm On Apr 07, 2017 |
LordReed:Missy will tell you she doesn't call names but she's the worst of the bunch here. She's as slick as they come and she try to play that lady nonsense. Nothing ladylike about our Missy. 3 Likes |
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