Foxyn:
I might say "DAMN" but you will mistake it for the new Kendrick Lamar album

I am not trying to discourage you from being a Christian or change what you believe. I used to be too until I met a Jewish scholar in London. He thought me a lot and I did my own study and research.. I just realised I have living a lie. It was tough. I just had to unlearn the bull shit..

Now occasionally I write and drop some message for those that are ready to wake up

You don't have to believe me..but it won't stop me from telling the truth.

sonmvayina:


I am not trying to discourage you from being a Christian or change what you believe. I used to be too until I met a Jewish scholar in London. He thought me a lot and I did my own study and research.. I just realised I have living a lie. It was tough. I just had to unlearn the bull shit..

Now occasionally I write and drop some message for those that are ready to wake up

You don't have to believe me..but it won't stop me from telling the truth.

so you believe the handwriting of man to the one written by God in the bible.. issokei

Foxyn:
so believe the handwriting of man more than the one written by God in the bible.. issokei

So, God wrote the Bible?

Foxyn:
Nawa o.
. this one just shock me

this is pure lies..Gods name in Hebrew Language is Yahweh.
Though i doubt some things about Religion,it does nt make reason like a fool

CatfishBilly:

So, God wrote the Bible?

if buhari order the soldiers to free all the boko haram commanders in the prison.

and the soldiers take to the act and they were free..

now who will you blame?

the president or the soldiers?

bitcoinvin:


this is pure lies..Gods name in Hebrew Language is Yahweh.
Though i doubt some things about Religion,it does nt make reason like a fool

that's true bro. exactly what I was trying to make him understand

Foxyn:
so believe the handwriting of man more than the one written by God in the bible.. issokei

The old testament and new testament are two different ideology and religions. The Roman stole the Tanakh (old testament) from the Jews and added their own ideology. God is NOT a man according to the Jews Numbers 19:23, and the Messiah the Jews are waiting for is a man from the sperm of David, and he is coming once, no second coming arrangement or is he a demi God.( half man half God)..those are Greek and roman idea. I guess you have watched "clash of the titans" where Zeus had relationship with a woman to give birth to Perseus.. The Jews don't have that as part of their theology.. They added it and took some Messianic prophesy to create their Jesus story..

God don't make mistake, so the idea of old and new testament is insulting to God.

Foxyn:
if buhari order the soldiers to free all the boko haram commanders in the prison.

and the soldiers take to the act and they were free..

now who will you blame?

the president or the soldiers?

Intellectual works and mechanical order are 2 different things, so your analogy doesn't work.
God wrote the Bible means God wrote it down himself or he dictated someone who wrote it down. Example, Adolf Hitler write Mein Kampf.
God inspired the writing of the Bible doesn't mean he wrote it. Joseph Stalin inspired the writing of Animal Farm doesn't mean it was Stalin that wrote animal farm.
In case you've forgotten, it's Human beings like me and you that sat down over drinks and decided which books should be in the Bible and which books should be removed. There are more than 100 books that should be in the Bible and they all claimed they were inspired by God and the holy Spirit.

CatfishBilly:

Intellectual works and mechanical order are 2 different things, so your analogy doesn't work.
God wrote the Bible means God wrote it down himself or he dictated someone who wrote it down. Example, Adolf Hitler write Mein Kampf.
God inspired the writing of the Bible doesn't mean he wrote it. Joseph Stalin inspired the writing of Animal Farm doesn't mean it was Stalin that wrote animal farm.
In case you've forgotten, it's Human beings like me and you that sat down over drinks and decided which books should be in the Bible and which books should be removed. There are more than 100 books that should be in the Bible and they all claimed they were inspired by God and the holy Spirit.

check the bolded bro, You've said it all

sonmvayina:


The old testament and new testament are two different ideology and religions. The Roman stole the Tanakh (old testament) from the Jews and added their own ideology. God is NOT a man according to the Jews Numbers 19:23, and the Messiah the Jews are waiting for is a man from the sperm of David, and he is coming once, no second coming arrangement or is he a demi God.( half man half God)..those are Greek and roman idea. I guess you have watched "clash of the titans" where Zeus had relationship with a woman to give birth to Perseus.. The Jews don't have that as part of their theology.. They added it and took some Messianic prophesy to create their Jesus story..

God don't make mistake, so the idea of old and new testament is insulting to God.

Please which sperm of David are you talking about? who even told you that Jesus was brought into this world through sperm? let me ignore the rest of the rigmarole you typed up there

Foxyn:
check the bolded bro, You've said it all

It's an unsubstantiated claim. Anyone can claim that.
And I've given you an example of how inspiring to write and actually writing are 2 different things.
Just be honest to yourself for once.

CatfishBilly:

It's an unsubstantiated claim. Anyone can claim that.
And I've given you an example of how inspiring to write and actually writing are 2 different things.
Just be honest to yourself for once.

this clearly means you don't even know the power of the holy spirit..

what is your problem sir? If you claim to have read a bible then you shouldve known about the omnipresence of God.

Youre obviously an atheist so why does God bother you?

CatfishBilly:

Here you go making shittttttt up again.

Foxyn:
Please which sperm of David are you talking about? who even told you that Jesus was brought into this world through sperm? let me ignore the rest of the rigmarole you typed up there

The Messiah must be from the seed(sperm) of David. Meaning he must have a biological father and mother. Jesus did not meet this criteria, so therefore he is not the Messiah..

sonmvayina:


The Messiah must be from the seed(sperm) of David. Meaning he must have a biological father and mother. Jesus did not meet this criteria, so therefore he is not the Messiah..

and mary that carried the seed (jesus) was from the race of David, born to Anne her mother and Joachim her father, who was son of Panther. Panther and Melchi were brothers, sons of Levi, of the stock of Nathan, whose father was David of the tribe of Judah.

and the prophecy was fulfilled as Mary the biological mother of jesus

sonmvayina:


The entire new testament... Primarily the work of Eusebius the master forger and some other priest.

You have spoken the outright truth. The greatest forger award in history should go to Eusebius(may his soul cry in peace). That forger attacked me because I was stepping on his toes by my revelations.

Foxyn:
Though am asking a but am very curious to know why.

God gives a child to a barren woman,
Devil does the same

God resurrects the dead,
Devil does the same

God provides money and shelter,
Devil also has the power to do the same

God sees the future,
Devil come dey like say him see am pass God self

God heals,
Devil does the same

and so many mysterious things..

I began wondering if there's anything God can do that the devil cannot do or have the power to do...

To me, I feel like this world was created by two people..

the only difference between these two is that

God does good, he gives without seeking for a price

while

the devil dwells in doing bad and causing havoc to whosoever he gives to..

but on a serious note, both seem to possess the same power.

But there's always the strongest which I know is GOD.

Just that I haven't seen what God can do that the devil cannot do..

reason why I want to know why God shares the same power with the devil

God and Devil dont possess equal power. God gave him the power and he wouldnt have given him all His power.
The reason why God has not collected back the power is because it is not yet time.

There is time to give and there is time to take back.

Everything satan gives are fake.

davtosh:



God and Devil dont possess equal power. God gave him the power and he wouldnt have given him all His power.
The reason why God has not collected back the power is because it is not yet time.

There is time to give and there is time to take back.

Everything satan gives are fake.

nice assertion though

you made a mistake, Devil can never raise a dead man... I have never seen or heard such magic he doesn't have power over life and death. correct me if u v seen

they do the same but God has always proved that he is more powerful than Satan and that is why he Aaron's serpent swallowed the magicians and Jesus can command demons and they obey him and flew. Satan has power but he seeks permission from God because he knows God is most powerful.

the world was not created by magic or manual labour to say two of them created the world. it was created by the words God spoke, he said and it came to pass. devil has mouth to speak too but two people cannot command at thesame time so only God created the world through Jesus.

lastly, yes Devil is powerful that is why he waged war against God and the host of heavens with his angels. but God is most powerful, he can always defeat the devil. that is why as a human being as powerless as you are, you can cast devil and he will run away from you. at least devil is afraid of me because of he that is with him. even devil knows the koko, em get power to do wonders in your eyes, as humans who go deh shout see power o. but most arch angels in heaven alone can challenge him let Alone God.

mostelected:
you made a mistake, Devil can never raise a dead man... I have never seen or heard such magic he doesn't have power over life and death. correct me if u v seen

they do the same but God has always proved that he is more powerful than Satan and that is why he Aaron's serpent swallowed the magicians and Jesus can command demons and they obey him and flew. Satan has power but he seeks permission from God because he knows God is most powerful.

Atheists won't like the bolded.

they will ask for prove

or ask to know whether you were there when all that happened

About Satan raising the death, to be sincere I haven't heard or seen that before ... you won me on that one.

but the rest of your theory are trash

I said it, that Foxyn guy is something else!

Anyway, to answer your question. The biggest thing the Devil can never give to you is salvation. And it's what qualify you to be the child of God. It's that salvation that gives you authority over the works of darkness. It's that salvation that makes you to be worthy to stand in the presence of God. It's that salvation gives you an unending joy.

luvmijeje:
I said it, that Foxyn guy is something else!

Anyway, to answer your question. The biggest thing the Devil can never give to you is salvation. And it's what qualify you to be the child of God. It's that salvation that gives you authority over the works of darkness. It's that salvation that makes you to be worthy to stand in the presence of God. It's that salvation gives you an unending joy.

what is this one even saying self

Foxyn:
what is this one even saying self

Go and sit down because you'll never understand what I'm saying. While you're sitting down tell God you want to be closer to him.

luvmijeje:

Go and sit down because you'll never understand what I'm saying. While you're sitting down tell God you want to be closer to him.

nawa o.. bae just hope you are not hunger?

cos na only hunger fit do make person talk out of point

sonmvayina:


The old testament and new testament are two different ideology and religions. The Roman stole the Tanakh (old testament) from the Jews and added their own ideology. God is NOT a man according to the Jews Numbers 19:23, and the Messiah the Jews are waiting for is a man from the sperm of David, and he is coming once, no second coming arrangement or is he a demi God.( half man half God)..those are Greek and roman idea. I guess you have watched "clash of the titans" where Zeus had relationship with a woman to give birth to Perseus.. The Jews don't have that as part of their theology.. They added it and took some Messianic prophesy to create their Jesus story..

God don't make mistake, so the idea of old and new testament is insulting to God.

please dear just drop your email address, I want to share a book with you containing over 40 evidences that Jesus is the Messiah sent by God. 40 evidences in the old testament that you believe and then you will see if the romans created their Jesus story or you are the one clouding your judgement. the bible never said the Messiah will come from David's sperm be corrected. it is never written.

please read this book let me prove it to you that Jesus Christ is the Messiah. the romans wouldn't influence to Israelites to act accordingly to create this story with them. God himself gave us signs that Jesus is the Messiah but you simply ignored it to believe in roman story. it is well, isokay

otemanuduno:
You have spoken the outright truth. The greatest forger award in history should go to Eusebius(may his soul cry in peace). That forger attacked me because I was stepping on his toes by my revelations.

hahaha... better know who is attacking you, nothing I will seen. no wonder I had the inspiration to write a book ' truth about the new testament, is it true or false?' and this led me to research worthy religious books and I have proof now... please know who attacked you and don't bring this you don't know on your head. I can send this book to you too via email.

mostelected:


hahaha... better know who is attacking you, nothing I will seen. no wonder I had the inspiration to write a book ' truth about the new testament, is it true or false?' and this led me to research worthy religious books and I have proof now... please know who attacked you and don't bring this you don't know on your head. I can send this book to you too via email.

LOL... You saw it in a book written by a fellow human like you... I entered into spirituality full time and stepped into the toes of some dead liars whom I didn't even know they existed in real life, until I met them in the spiritual realm first. Now tell me which one should I believe more... a mere book written by a co-scribe and a christian apologists or what I saw deep into the spiritual realms Okay na, send me the book via email: otem2016@gmail.com
Who knows whether the book would be able to achieve the feat Eusebius tried hard to achieve but failed.

Let them who have ears hear, don't be condemned with unbelievers, haters of God that call themselves whatever. you are different, do not lose your faith in God, rather build it. many already have deals with hades and won't stop at nothing till they deceive you. do not perish with them, there is more of God and Jesus that you need to know

otemanuduno:


LOL... You saw it in a book written by a fellow human like you... I entered into spirituality full time and stepped into the toes of some dead liars whom I didn't even know they existed in real life, until I met them in the spiritual realm first. Now tell me which one should I believe more... a mere book written by a co-scribe and a christian apologists or what I saw deep into the spiritual realms Okay na, send me the book via email: otem2016@gmail.com
Who knows whether the book would be able to achieve the feat Eusebius tried hard to achieve but failed.

it is my own personal research, I was curious who this Jesus is and if he is the true Messiah, I wrote my findings from my researches on it. thank you very much, you will see all I saw. it is a large book though about 50 pages

mostelected:


it is my own personal research, I was curious who this Jesus is and if he is the true Messiah, I wrote my findings from my researches on it. thank you very much, you will see all I saw. it is a large book though about 50 pages

pls send it. Thanks.

Because God and Devil are the same, two sides to a coin, opposite ends of a pole that, both are attributes of us all.