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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 8:24am On Apr 17, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: I don't understand you...well I know somehow you're conservative and possibly a phlegmatic. reasonable who will need a player and ruin his career by letting him out of the match day squad people must not always tell you....all things but their actions towards you are words you have got to decode your tense obsession with pep and his obsolete tactics is really making you biased you see young lads every time making waves in teams like Monaco, dybala in juventus, rashfold in man utd etc.... and you keep saying nacho should keep learning even when he is deliberately omitted from the match day squad... please tell your pep....my nacho is already a talent all he needs is game time to display his potentials....nonsense coach.. I wish I could even lay my hands on him..it will be disastrous... 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by xhermuel(m): 8:24am On Apr 17, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:32am On Apr 17, 2017 |
Humility017: Oga na beg I dey beg u o |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:34am On Apr 17, 2017 |
Humility017: Dybala is 23 while Iheanacho is 20. This is the formative years of Iheanacho and learning this fluid movement as a striker will make him one of the deadliest finishers in the game. He is already exceptional striking, add this movement and we have a possible legend. If Iheanacho was 23, I will not say stay. It is clear Guardiola treasures the mobile forwards. Players like Gabriel Jesus, Mbappe, Lewandowski, Suarez and Firmino have this naturally. Iheanacho working with Aguero and Gabriel Jesus who have mastered it will help him get it soon. Give the young man time. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:37am On Apr 17, 2017 |
Humility017: Watch Firmino play the nine role and watch Nacho play it, there is so much difference. Watch Mbappe and Gabriel Jesus track back and watch Nacho, you will see the difference. When Nacho adds this to his locker, we will see pure brilliance. The young man can get it right. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:39am On Apr 17, 2017 |
Gernot Rohr: The door is open for Vincent Enyeama in the Nigeria national team by Austin Ditlhobolo Sunday Apr 16, 2017. 18:00 Super Eagles head coach Gernot Rohr has revealed that Vincent Enyeama has problems with the Nigerian Football Federation (NFF). OSC Lille goalkeeper Enyeama quit the Super Eagles in 2015 after a row with former coach Sunday Oliseh. Rohr has since stated that the door is open for 34-year-old shot-stopper, who has over 100 caps for Nigeria, to return to the Super Eagles. "The door is open for Vincent Enyeama in the national team,", Rohr told Tomiwababalola.com. "I think he had a problem with the federation, so he wanted someone to call him before coming. "They called him or they didn’t reach him I don’t know," the German tactician continued. ”We have three goalkeepers at the moment but we will welcome everybody who will respect our work rate, solidarity and humility. "And not expect special favors. So the door is opened also to Enyeama." 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:46am On Apr 17, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: You are the same person that says age does not matter. So age now matters? So Dybala is better bc he is older? 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by terzurum5(m): 8:47am On Apr 17, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe:The way your arguments in defence of Iheanacho's maltreatment by Pep Guardiola de pain me enh, one day I fit go break for this thread because of you. Must he crumble his career completely before you realise it's time for Iheanacho to say goodbye ![]() Runs out of thread!!! 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:53am On Apr 17, 2017 |
Icon4s: Your mixing the context. The context is in better not age. Gabriel Jesus moves better than Firmino. That is why he is the lead striker of Brazil ahead of an older and more experienced Firmino. At the moment, Aguero moves better than Iheanacho. That is why he deserves to get picked ahead of Iheanacho. I said we should stop using experience but refer to the better player. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 8:56am On Apr 17, 2017 |
terzurum5: In the game between Manchester City and Hull, I had my hands to my mouth when Fernando came on. He was far slimmer than I used to know him. When he had the ball, he was more skillful and gave a brilliant ground pass that left me in awe. Fernando hardly sees games for Manchester City, in your terms, maltreatment. Yet, he looked far better than before. I am interested in becoming better than playing time. Despite lack of game time, Fabian Delph said he wants to keep playing for Manchester City. Iheanacho said he is learning under Guardiola. Do you think they are stupid? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:57am On Apr 17, 2017 |
Sir GoodJoe.... Nacho will be 21 by October this year. Nacho needs playing time added to his learning time. It is true Drogba came into his own at age 24 but A Messi was already world best at age 21. Nacho can't wait till he is 22 before he gets a good run of games added to what he is learning on the training ground. After all, I have watched Mbappe (who like Nacho is on my DLS team), Dybala (also on my DLS team) and even Gabriel Jesus (used to be but I sold him back to Man city) closely.... they are still not perfect. Nacho needs game time. He is already one of the most lethal forwards in Europe based on goals ratio. Whatever he still has to learn can be learnt while he also gets game time..... If I teach you MS-word or MS-Excel software applications.... would not you have to be using them to get used to them? must you be perfect before you get your hands on them? TheGoodJoe: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Orkpekyandega(m): 9:02am On Apr 17, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:04am On Apr 17, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: The flaw in your analogy is that you are mistaken playing time as using the excel sheet. Using the excel sheet is done repeatedly on the training pitch and practicing using it is also done in the training pitch. Game time is when you are preparing a pro report for a multinational organization. That is not where learning and becoming proficient in Excel happens. Nacho is a brilliant finisher but he certainly derails when it concerns fluid movement off the ball. I pointed it long ago that if Nacho goes to Liverpool, he will find himself on the bench because of how fluid Firmino is. Watch Mbappe track back, he tracks until the defence line. These kind of fluidity will take Hardwork to achieve it. Guardiola believes Nacho can learn it. This is the best time for him to work with a exceptional training coach. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:05am On Apr 17, 2017 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:08am On Apr 17, 2017 |
There is no flaw...... I am telling you how I learnt Ms Excel. I was actually allowed to make use of it in real settings while I practiced perfecting it at home. You cannot keep Nacho on the bench forever in the name of wanting him to attain perfection. TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kakamorufu(m): 9:09am On Apr 17, 2017 |
Iheanacho should get out of mancity asap |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:09am On Apr 17, 2017 |
Wolfsburg were also excellent with Diego. And why is Osimhen on your list? He is just an upstart.... ![]() Orkpekyandega: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:12am On Apr 17, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: You can carry out pro excel work in your room. Even more challenging conditions than you get in work environment. That is where the growth takes place. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:16am On Apr 17, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Going by your philosophy you should not mention age while comparing Iheanacho with Dybala. You have always opined that age does not matter. The experience issue is another debate. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:19am On Apr 17, 2017 |
So Nacho should stick to more training routines on the training field till he is 22.... is that it? No game time.... just train, train and train.... till he is perfect. Plsss.... is Gabby Jesus perfect? is Mbappe perfect? what about even Rashford? Are they all perfect? We are talking about a player who took less time to bang in 10 EPL goals before he turned 20. Something Rashford is still trying to achieve.... before he turns 20. So Nacho must he perfect before he takes to the field for 80-90mins in five successive games.... at least.... is that it? Meanwhile, I have told you how I mastered Excel and other packages.... don't twist it to suit your training and growth alone argument. TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:21am On Apr 17, 2017 |
Icon4s: I said in comparison of player. Age should not be used as a reason for selection. The best player should get the nod, despite age. In this case, we are talking of the development of a player. Iheanacho is still young and has room for development. When it comes to selection, select the better player. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:22am On Apr 17, 2017 |
When Aguero was shit..... and Iheanacho was firing on all cylinders for City and Nigeria.... Did Pep pick Nacho?? Since you harp on "better player" TheGoodJoe: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:25am On Apr 17, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: Guardiola proved that he wants his forwards contributing to the game play, just as he wants his keepers building-up plays and his defenders joining the midfield. This is a big part of the philosophy and in turn improves the players. Nacho can finish. Guardiola gets it but he wants him to become fluid. Very fluid. Watch Lewandowski or Firmino and you will get it. When Nacho adds this, then we will have a monster. A year more is not his whole life and he will become deadlier. That is the most important thing. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:28am On Apr 17, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: That, I totally disagree with Guardiola. Iheanacho fitted more into his philosophy but Aguero got the nod. Sometimes it is hard to delve into the mind of the manager. However, at the moment Aguero is a perfect fit and Nacho is far from it. I think it was in the game against Everton. I was literally screaming at the screen that Nacho should drop deeper and move to the ball. He will get it. Others are improving, like Delph, Fernando, Navas etc with less game time. Nacho will keep improving. I say he keeps learning. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:29am On Apr 17, 2017 |
I watch Lewandowski so much.... he is even on my DLS team also. I rate him as the best no.9 on the planet. So Pep didn't see Nacho contributing to build-up plays in the game against Southampton where Nacho saved his ass? That 1-1 game at the Etihad earlier this season..... let's use that as a case study. TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by PietroRico(m): 9:31am On Apr 17, 2017 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:33am On Apr 17, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: Why jump to 1961 when we are in 2017? Let us use the current state of the players. At the moment, Nacho is still developing when it comes to fluid movement. He is miles away from moving like Lewandowski. Lewandowski's first touch is also breathtaking. Nacho has a manager ready to get him to understand these concepts which in turn will make him better. I disagree that Nacho should work away from this golden opportunity. Playing time is overrated. Ask Iwobi. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:36am On Apr 17, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: Nothing can steal my joy, the boy wants to be a star, he actually pushed to go in the winter. I also love how he handled the questions by staying political even though he wanted to leave. I feel Rohr must have at least known he was trying to go to Germany and he also handled the questions well. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:37am On Apr 17, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: When we are building plays, watch Nacho's movement. He is attacking the box and waiting for the team to pass to him. Watch Aguero in a similar scenario, he is dropping deep to get the ball and help the midfield become more fluid. Watch Firmino, he is down the flanks creating options for the midfielders to pass to. In the game against Hull, Iheanacho showed improvement. With time, he will get it. Playing time in another club will not guarantee Nacho will develop this. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:39am On Apr 17, 2017 |
I have come to master the fact that Greatness comes from hours and hours and even years of perfecting one's craft and talents and becoming super skilled because Skill and talent are not the same thing... In my little journeys so far in the science and medicine world, I know that Practice and direction is more important than speed.... what I mean is... I have come to understand that there is no need to rush... What is important is that I keep working, learning and improving even as i go up the ladders of my education and surely one day, I will take centre stage. Now in the game of football.... things are similar but only that one does not have all the time in the world in soccer.... one literally have between 17 and 35 years of age as an outfield player to make his mark. If you are a goalie... you have between age 17 and maybe 40. The rest of your life after ages 35-40 is lived outside active soccer. So football is different is different from Medicine and science in this regard.... In football, age 24-26 is no longer a rookie... even age 30 is considered a veteran in the Field of soccer.... but in science... you are still considered young and a baby... depending on where you are in your journey. So on Nacho carrying on learning.... I have no issues with that okay. But........ But... I do have issues with how long because Football have such a short span for one player to make an impact. Nacho must not use the better part of his career to just keep learning.... he must do it in tandem with playing time. He doesn't have 40yrs in football... he has roughly 15 yrs more.... TheGoodJoe: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 9:40am On Apr 17, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: Iwobi has done well for a young player, i don't get why u keep bringing is name up, it sounds like u are just kicking him while he is down. Also Lewandowski didn't have to sit on the bench to learn anything. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:44am On Apr 17, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: A season is not the rest of Nacho's career. I say he puts in one more season learning this craft and then he can go if there is no space for him. I feel the craft is more important than the playing time he will get at other clubs. Especially clubs that do not fit the Barca philosophy. |
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