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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:48am On Apr 17, 2017
Point me to the period where Lewandowski was left on the bench and on the training ground for a long time before he became the beast he is today.....

Point me to the period he was left out of match days squads.... after he left Poland....


And talking about 1961.... I have to go there because same pep is always saying Nacho is just a box player and can finish bla bla bla.....

As if Pep didn't see Nacho's brilliance in that game where he actually controlled the game and brought others into play.

As if Pep didn't see Nacho in Nigeria's colors doing this thing.

Same pep opens his ignorant mouth to say nonsense.

TheGoodJoe:



Why jump to 1961 when we are in 2017? Let us use the current state of the players. At the moment, Nacho is still developing when it comes to fluid movement. He is miles away from moving like Lewandowski. Lewandowski's first touch is also breathtaking.

Nacho has a manager ready to get him to understand these concepts which in turn will make him better. I disagree that Nacho should work away from this golden opportunity. Playing time is overrated. Ask Iwobi.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:48am On Apr 17, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


Iwobi has done well for a young player, i don't get why u keep bringing is name up, it sounds like u are just kicking him while he is down. Also Lewandowski didn't have to sit on the bench to learn anything.

Iwobi did well in the hype that he is playing regularly for Arsenal. It is undeniable that the young man lost his uniqueness in the Euphoria.

I expect Iwobi to come back better and improved. I hope he keeps the lesson learned from Gatting after this period. There is a lot of work to stay at the top of the game. There is a reason why Scholes, Pirlo, Xabi Alonso, Giggs and Buffon lasted so long at the top.

It is not about playing time but respecting the effect of practice and discipline.

Advice to Wenger, pronlmote Gatting to your technical crew.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:51am On Apr 17, 2017
TheSuperNerd:

Point me to the period where Lewandowski was left on the bench and on the training ground for a long time before he became the beast he is today.....

Point me to the period he was left out of match days squads.... after he left Poland....



These things come naturally to some. Players like Romario, Bebeto, Ronaldo De Lima etc. Lewandowski is a natural, just like Firmino, Mbappe and Gabriel Jesus. If Nacho moves better than these players, I doubt he will see less game time.

When Nacho improves on it, he will see more opportunities. Guardiola showed this season that he can improve players. We saw it in Delph, Sane and Caballero. We will see it in Nacho. Time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:53am On Apr 17, 2017
TheSuperNerd:
Point me to the period where Lewandowski was left on the bench and on the training ground for a long time before he became the beast he is today.....

Point me to the period he was left out of match days squads.... after he left Poland....


And talking about 1961.... I have to go there because same pep is always saying Nacho is just a box player and can finish bla bla bla.....

As if Pep didn't see Nacho's brilliance in that game where he actually controlled the game and brought others into play.

As if Pep didn't see Nacho in Nigeria's colors doing this thing.

Same pep opens his ignorant mouth to say nonsense.


We can not change the truth. Nacho is not fluid enough. The young man is working hard on it and his Hardwork will payoff soon.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:55am On Apr 17, 2017
Time..... I have already explained how much time he has.


Time is very very precious in the game of football. But it is okay... let me see what Pep has for him in the summer.

As for Nacho training.... that lad is a beast in training. even Pep cannot deny it. He has said so..... let us only hope Nacho's training doesn't take longer than normal again.... because Time waits for no one.... especially in the short life span of the beautiful game....


TheGoodJoe:


These things come naturally to some. Players like Romario, Bebeto, Ronaldo De Lima etc. Lewandowski is a natural, just like Firmino, Mbappe and Gabriel Jesus. If Nacho moves better than these players, I doubt he will see less game time.

When Nacho improves on it, he will see more opportunities. Guardiola showed this season that he can improve players. We saw it in Delph, Sane and Caballero. We will see it in Nacho. Time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 9:59am On Apr 17, 2017
But he is fluid at all.... isn't he? He is fluid.... only that "enough" is missing....

But pep won't admit to it.... he only comments that Nacho can finish and that is all


But Pellegrini said otherwise... He said... "Nacho is a striker but is much more than a striker... he offers more outside and around the box also... Yes, he is a finisher but also more than that... there is whole lot to his game many haven't come to see yet"

And you think Pep knows more than Pellergrini abi?? Pelle sees what pep is outrightly denying.... very classic.


TheGoodJoe:


We can not change the truth. Nacho is not fluid enough. The young man is working hard on it and his Hardwork will payoff soon.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:02am On Apr 17, 2017
TheSuperNerd:
But he is fluid at all.... isn't he? He is fluid.... only that "enough" is missing....

But pep won't admit to it.... he only comments that Nacho can finish and that is all


But Pellegrini said otherwise... He said... "Nacho is a striker but is much more than a striker... he offers more outside and around the box also... Yes, he is a finisher but also more than that... there is whole lot to his game many haven't come to see yet"

And you think Pep knows more than Pellergrini abi?? Pelle sees what pep is outrightly denying.... very classic.



Remember, Pellegrini plays a direct brand if attacking football. His style is more suited to Nacho's pressing attacking play.

Guardiola's system requires more, that is why he is more demanding. He wants more from Iheanacho than a prolific striker.

Nacho will get it soon.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:07am On Apr 17, 2017
I am more particular about what the two coaches saw and said of Nacho's abilities.

Pep's view of him is kinda limited I must confess.


And yes, Nacho will get it right. I trust he will....

But remember, he is already a sought-after super talent....


TheGoodJoe:


Remember, Pellegrini plays a direct brand if attacking football. His style is more suited to Nacho's pressing attacking play.

Guardiola's system requires more, that is why he is more demanding. He wants more from Iheanacho than a prolific striker.

Nacho will get it soon.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 10:15am On Apr 17, 2017
BascoVanVeli:
Gernot Rohr: The door is open for Vincent Enyeama in the Nigeria national team

by Austin Ditlhobolo

Sunday Apr 16, 2017. 18:00
Super Eagles head coach Gernot Rohr has revealed that Vincent Enyeama has problems with the Nigerian Football Federation (NFF).

OSC Lille goalkeeper Enyeama quit the Super Eagles in 2015 after a row with former coach Sunday Oliseh.

Rohr has since stated that the door is open for 34-year-old shot-stopper, who has over 100 caps for Nigeria, to return to the Super Eagles.

"The door is open for Vincent Enyeama in the national team,", Rohr told Tomiwababalola.com.

"I think he had a problem with the federation, so he wanted someone to call him before coming.

"They called him or they didn’t reach him I don’t know," the German tactician continued.

”We have three goalkeepers at the moment but we will welcome everybody who will respect our work rate, solidarity and humility.

"And not expect special favors. So the door is opened also to Enyeama."



yes ooo i sincerely prayer he came back, pls VINCENT we want you back,

jst wish our supporters will carry a banner calling for his return, it will surely go a long way

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:25am On Apr 17, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Iwobi did well in the hype that he is playing regularly for Arsenal. It is undeniable that the young man lost his uniqueness in the Euphoria.

I expect Iwobi to come back better and improved. I hope he keeps the lesson learned from Gatting after this period. There is a lot of work to stay at the top of the game. There is a reason why Scholes, Pirlo, Xabi Alonso, Giggs and Buffon lasted so long at the top.

It is not about playing time but respecting the effect of practice and discipline.

Advice to Wenger, pronlmote Gatting to your technical crew.

Scape goat is more like it. No arsenal player has put a foot right in a month right or wrong? People all of a sudden say he was not disciplined enough outside the pitch but that is hearsay. We don't know him and we cannot judge him just on imagination. Every young player hits a wall once in a while, no big deal but where are Ozil and Sanchez?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:27am On Apr 17, 2017
do4luv14:



yes ooo i sincerely prayer he came back, pls VINCENT we want you back,

jst wish our supporters will carry a banner calling for his return, it will surely go a long way

I don't like it, Enyeama should make up his mind because he is unsettling Ikeme with all this drama.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:32am On Apr 17, 2017
TheSuperNerd:
I am more particular about what the two coaches saw and said of Nacho's abilities.

Pep's view of him is kinda limited I must confess.


And yes, Nacho will get it right. I trust he will....

But remember, he is already a sought-after super talent....



The only thing i want Pep to teach Iheanacho right now is German.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 10:32am On Apr 17, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


I don't like it, Enyeama should make up his mind because he is unsettling Ikeme with all this drama.

drama. And IKEME indeed,


if not for that ingrate called OLISEH am sure there wud be no problem wit him,

IKEME is gud no doubt, and i pray he stay injury free for a very long time, cos his injury is not sometime to toy about,
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:37am On Apr 17, 2017
Looooollll...... ***Yara Yara plsss pass the message to the so-called Philosophical one..... don't send it thru Oga Royalty oooo..... that one go kill pep without blinking sef***


#BundesligaLoading looollllll


BascoVanVeli:


The only thing i want Pep to teach Iheanacho right now is German.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 10:47am On Apr 17, 2017
You guys still de argue wit Sir TheGoodJoe on top kelechi matter?

Me I don sabi TheGoodJoe teytey E no go gree make nacho leave city. He prefers him to keep learning and training without playing under pep till boy starts to grow grey hair from frustration.

Football is an amazing sport but it has a very short memory.
Watching Rashford play against Chelsea last evening made me to wonder if it wasn't the same lad competing wit Nacho for Headline. I come de shake my head for Nacho, his agent and his selfish pa. They all saw the hand clearly written on d wall and they couldn't take proactive measure.

I hope he bounces back soon cos even presently I'm not happy with the names of clubs making offer for him and stuff like these can psychologically affect his development into a super player we want him to become.

Since Nacho offers more I think he deserves more. So I say he gets outta city and re-launch his career.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:01am On Apr 17, 2017
AIG07:
You guys still de argue wit Sir TheGoodJoe on top kelechi matter?

Me I don sabi TheGoodJoe teytey E no go gree make nacho leave city. He prefers him to keep learning and training without playing under pep till boy starts to grow grey hair from frustration.

Football is an amazing sport but it has a very short memory.
Watching Rashford play against Chelsea last evening made me to wonder if it wasn't the same lad competing wit Nacho for Headline. I come de shake my head for Nacho, his agent and his selfish pa. They all saw the hand clearly written on d wall and they couldn't take proactive measure.

I hope he bounces back soon cos even presently I'm not happy with the names of clubs making offer for him and stuff like these can psychologically affect his development into a super player we want him to become.

Since Nacho offers more I think he deserves more. So I say he gets outta city and re-launch his career.

I have said that I will support Nacho if he chooses to leave. I wonder why you guys are still hammering on me wanting Nacho to stay. There is also show and reality. Rashford might perform amazingly against Chelsea but at City, he will not start ahead of Sane.

That is why I said the point is development. Nacho can go somewhere, bang in goals for fun and earn rave reviews. It will not change the fact that there are part of his game that needs polishing.

I say he stays a season more and polish the other parts of his game. After that, seek game time either at City or another club.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 11:01am On Apr 17, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Dybala is 23 while Iheanacho is 20. This is the formative years of Iheanacho and learning this fluid movement as a striker will make him one of the deadliest finishers in the game. He is already exceptional striking, add this movement and we have a possible legend.

If Iheanacho was 23, I will not say stay. It is clear Guardiola treasures the mobile forwards. Players like Gabriel Jesus, Mbappe, Lewandowski, Suarez and Firmino have this naturally.

Iheanacho working with Aguero and Gabriel Jesus who have mastered it will help him get it soon. Give the young man time.
how old is mbappe?

is he playing regularly or not?
grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:02am On Apr 17, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


The only thing i want Pep to teach Iheanacho right now is German.

What do you know about the Hoffenheim coach that assures you that he will handle Nacho well?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:05am On Apr 17, 2017
jotey:

how old is mbappe?

is he playing regularly or not?
grin

There is what is called natural gift. Nacho's finishing is natural. It takes time to teach a kid to finish like that. Mbappe's work rate is natural and it will take time to teach a kid to do what he does naturally.

Nacho has the natural finishing but learning the fluid movement will need Hardwork and time.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 11:08am On Apr 17, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


There is what is called natural gift. Nacho's finishing is natural. It takes time to teach a kid to finish like that. Mbappe's work rate is natural and it will take time to teach a kid to do what he does naturally.

Nacho has the natural finishing but learning the fluid movement will need Hardwork and time.
you said dybala is 23 and that's the reason he has more game time than nacho

now I am asking how old is mbappe?

the mbappe that destroyed man shitty?
grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:08am On Apr 17, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


Scape goat is more like it. No arsenal player has put a foot right in a month right or wrong? People all of a sudden say he was not disciplined enough outside the pitch but that is hearsay. We don't know him and we cannot judge him just on imagination. Every young player hits a wall once in a while, no big deal but where are Ozil and Sanchez?

Iwobi stayed awake late night chatting on a social media website despite having a game the next day. Xhaka had who was not to play in the coming game had to go online to tell Iwobi to go to bed. That is not hearsay that was a fact. Imagine Iwobi's attitude when there I no game time.

The young man needs to learn and I feel Wenger is not strict enough on his younger players. Iwobi can not attempt that at City.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:12am On Apr 17, 2017
jotey:

you said dybala is 23 and that's the reason he has more game time than nacho

now I am asking how old is mbappe?

the mbappe that destroyed man shitty?
grin

You did not understand the point. I said Dybala is 23, so we can talk of him having game time even if he is deficient in some areas. Iheanacho is 20 and I said he can use this period to polish some deficient areas.

I will not have problem if a coach notices some weakness in Mbappe's game and want him to work on it. Even if that means him sitting on the bench. If Mbappe was above 22, I will say there is no need and let that be his way.

Remember Benteke. I would have advised him to leave Liverpool because of his age. If he was younger, I will say study Firmino and improve your game.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 11:17am On Apr 17, 2017
jotey:

you said dybala is 23 and that's the reason he has more game time than nacho

now I am asking how old is mbappe?

the mbappe that destroyed man shitty?
grin

Mbappe did not destroy Manchester City. He scored and had an okay game. Fabinho and Bagayoko also scored.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:22am On Apr 17, 2017
Orkpekyandega:

Macauley Chrisantus
Victor Osimhen

Chrisantus joined Hamburg not Wolfsburg.

Osimhen signed officially in January during the winter and got injured soon after. He is just getting back from injury. He can't play with injury.

He can not be said to have failed yet. He is just 18 in his first club.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 11:25am On Apr 17, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Dybala is 23 while Iheanacho is 20. This is the formative years of Iheanacho and learning this fluid movement as a striker will make him one of the deadliest finishers in the game. He is already exceptional striking, add this movement and we have a possible legend.

If Iheanacho was 23, I will not say stay. It is clear Guardiola treasures the mobile forwards. Players like Gabriel Jesus, Mbappe, Lewandowski, Suarez and Firmino have this naturally.

Iheanacho working with Aguero and Gabriel Jesus who have mastered it will help him get it soon. Give the young man time.
Oga, when dybala was 20 he was already a star at Palermo. juventus bought him at 20/21 for 25mill euros all because he dey get playing time.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 11:36am On Apr 17, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


You did not understand the point. I said Dybala is 23, so we can talk of him having game time even if he is deficient in some areas. Iheanacho is 20 and I said he can use this period to polish some deficient areas.

I will not have problem if a coach notices some weakness in Mbappe's game and want him to work on it. Even if that means him sitting on the bench. If Mbappe was above 22, I will say there is no need and let that be his way.

Remember Benteke. I would have advised him to leave Liverpool because of his age. If he was younger, I will say study Firminho and improve your game.
iheanacho is older than mbappe yet no game time for iheanacho..

by your logic ...mbappe should b on the bench because he is young

Oga Joe just listen to yourselfgrin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 11:37am On Apr 17, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


When we are building plays, watch Nacho's movement. He is attacking the box and waiting for the team to pass to him. Watch Aguero in a similar scenario, he is dropping deep to get the ball and help the midfield become more fluid.

Watch Firmino, he is down the flanks creating options for the midfielders to pass to. In the game against Hull, Iheanacho showed improvement. With time, he will get it. Playing time in another club will not guarantee Nacho will develop this.
uncle, all players can't be the same and all coaches don't want players playing same way. that firmino track back and involved in build up doesn't make him better than RVP who just hang around for the ball, infact firmino is just an average player to me Lukaku is even a better striker
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 11:37am On Apr 17, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Watch Firmino play the nine role and watch Nacho play it, there is so much difference. Watch Mbappe and Gabriel Jesus track back and watch Nacho, you will see the difference.

When Nacho adds this to his locker, we will see pure brilliance. The young man can get it right.

sir goodjoe...nacho is different, he is unique in his class... he doesn't need to be moulded to suit pep philosophy... if the drilling coach thinks he lacks want he want in a striker...then let him be loaned or sold to those who want what he(nacho) has....

last season...which was his debut season... the young lad has 13 goals ...amidst his sub role and has the highest goal scored per minute ratio...

please answer this question... has any of those pep has moulded and desires achieved such feet?

pep is simply a perfectionist
he want players to play as robot... he should keep dreaming...
nacho is already a bunch of talent...an exceptional lad SS and CF rolled into one....
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 11:39am On Apr 17, 2017
jotey:

iheanacho is older than mbappe yet no game time for iheanacho..

by your logic ...mbappe should b on the bench because he is young

Oga Joe just listen to yourselfgrin

and learn how to track back to defend...

that's the drilling coach desire of a striker..
even mourinho that play defensive football don't require so much of a striker...likewise conte
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 11:40am On Apr 17, 2017
TheGoodJoe:


Mbappe did not destroy Manchester City. He scored and had an okay game. Fabinho and Bagayoko also scored.

are you sure you watched the game?
grin

18year old mbappe played the game meanwhile our own nacho was on the bench for 90 minutes and you don't want him to leave city?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 11:43am On Apr 17, 2017
BascoVanVeli:


The only thing i want Pep to teach Iheanacho right now is German.

please add Spanish..

some coaches can lie...still remember conte weekly lies all just to keep omitting Mikel from match day squad...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jotey(m): 11:44am On Apr 17, 2017
Humility017:


and learn how to track back to defend...

that's the drilling coach desire of a striker..
even mourinho that play defensive football don't require so much of a striker...likewise conte

even rashford is getting more game time than nacho

iheanacho market value has dropped cos of no game time

and oga Joe wants him to remain at city grin

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