Rosskii:
Please, how does a three day nap equate to a sacrifice? Is it the fact that he was unconscious for three days? Is that the sacrifice? I can equally say I am sacrificing for the world when I go to bed for the night, can't I?

ifenes:
I suppose a sacrifice for the sins of the whole world would be for eternity. A situation whereby Jesus is roasting in hell fire in place of humans. Or he is still nailed to the cross for eternity for all to see. Honestly what the Christians teach is no sacrifice at all. Only three days? Mandela spent 27 years in prison and the world did not worship him.

luvmijeje:
Story story story......once upon a time in Matt 11:25

25 At that time Jesus answered and said, “I thank You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that You have hidden these things from the wise and prudent and have revealed them to babes.

Rosskii:


Thank you very much.

This is why I laugh when i hear people say that Jesus gave his life for our sins.

Which life did he give?

The same one that he died, and then on the 3rd day, he rose up on his own and walked out of the place?

So what's the sacrifice?

It makes no sense.

Rosskii:
Please, how does a three day nap equate to a sacrifice? Is it the fact that he was unconscious for three days? Is that the sacrifice? I can equally say I am sacrificing for the world when I go to bed for the night, can't I? At least 1/3 of what Jesus sacrificed, every night.

Rosskii:


Thank you very much.

This is why I laugh when i hear people say that Jesus gave his life for our sins.

Which life did he give?

The same one that he died, and then on the 3rd day, he rose up on his own and walked out of the place?

So what's the sacrifice?

It makes no sense.

souloho19:


What is the meaning of sacrifice? To give up something of utmost value/importance for the benefit of another person.
Forget the fact that he woke up for a second.

He was killed. He gave up his life willingly. He "SACRIFICED" his life for you and he died. He wasn't asleep he was dead
The fact that he woke up on the 3rd day is so the reason of him dying can be actualized. Paul says somewhere "if in this world only we have hope in Christ..then we are of all men pitiable!"
That's why he had to wake up. He had to defeat death because there is hope of an afterlife to be spent with him.

Once more I repeat. "He sacrificed his life..he died..he spent 3 DAYS in hell..

obinna58:

God sacrificed his son and later got him back

Is that really a sacrifice
Do we have a temporal type of sacrifice

obinna58:

God sacrificed his son and later got him back

Is that really a sacrifice
Do we have a temporal type of sacrifice

kilo4sure:

That one worth his name and power should even become human at all and then face death is a sacrifice, or what else would u call it?
Ayam not understanding this your special style of reasoning.

Rosskii:
How is it a sacrifice to be unconscious for 3 days, after which you get up and carry on as usual? You only sacrificed a bit of your time - 72 hours at most. If that is a sacrifice, what will you call Mandela's 27 years in jail?

obinna58:

God sacrificed his son and later got him back

Is that really a sacrifice
Do we have a temporal type of sacrifice

Rosskii:


In other words, you refuse to use your brain and ask questions.

Typical of the brainwashed.

If the English had come with a book claiming that a donkey named Makanaky was the ''Only True Son of God'', you would be here today, a Donkey-worshipping Makanakian, just as surely as night turns to day.

luvmijeje:


In order words, the answer is beyond your reasoning. If I answer you won't still get it because it's beyond you.

kilo4sure:

Why you go dey reason like this na, so if you die and wake up in the next 1 trillion years, how different would it be from one who died and woke up the next 1 hour.

The problem is that you analyze death the way you analyze ordinary sleep.

Think about it, there have been roughly 13.7 billion years of the universe' existence, before u were born and before u began to develop self consciousness, would it matter if only 3 days have passed before all these? Please enlighten me here.

Rosskii:
Please, how does a three day nap equate to a sacrifice? Is it the fact that he was unconscious for three days? Is that the sacrifice? I can equally say I am sacrificing for the world when I go to bed for the night, can't I? At least 1/3 of what Jesus sacrificed, every night.

Rosskii:
It is a HUGE difference. In the first case, you've lost your ur family, friends, and association with this civilisation. In the second case, you only lose those things for an hour. One is a sacrifice, the other is not. Technically there is very little difference. One is temporary sleep, and the other is permanent sleep. Trouble is, 'Jesus' did not die if he got up on the third day. Technically, he went to sleep temporarily. He didn't sacrifice his life because as soon as someone killed him, he got right back up and continued with his life.I haven't the slightest clue what you are talking about.

kilo4sure:

So we do not digress much, l'll just address the main issue. Jesus sacrificed, because a person of his power being in the form of God became human, (taking the form of a slave)in doing so he emptied himself, so that like every other human he was susceptible to death and actually faced death(permanent death, 3 days death or even 1 minute death is irrelevant here).

Rosskii:
You are wrong on the "relevance" of how long he was dead for. It is highly relevant. If I have 1 million dollars, and put it in a bank, and then retrieve it after 3 days, I haven't given it away or sacrificed it. But if I gave that 1 million to a charity to help say, the disabled, as a gift, THEN you can say I sacrificed something. So what exactly did Jesus sacrifice? Whatever he gave, such as his life, he took it straight back.

And stop trying to exaggerate his 'lowliness' by claiming he was a slave. He wasn't.

Rosskii:
Please, how does a three day nap equate to a sacrifice? Is it the fact that he was unconscious for three days? Is that the sacrifice? I can equally say I am sacrificing for the world when I go to bed for the night, can't I? At least 1/3 of what Jesus sacrificed, every night.

Alwaystrue:


My Lord Jesus was beaten, bruised, ridiculed, scorned, abused, had a cross made of thorns pressed unto his head, endured the pain of being nailed to a cross hand and foot and all this done to the God by His own creation He was to save and then died and you have the audacity to compare this to going to bed at night?

Can you endure even a fraction of all this done to you by someone you didn't create with the promise of being raised the next minute.

Please ask for forgiveness and never ever belittle even one aspect of the suffering of Christ. Ever!

Rosskii:
Millions of people have experienced far worse than being "scorned, ridiculed, beaten, bruised" etc. Plus you don't worship him based on the torture he supposedly endured, but because he "sacrificed his life".

Rosskii:
Trouble is, he DID NOT sacrifice his life. To sacrifice something means to give it up permanently, not give it up for a couple of days, and then snatch it back, and claim you'd sacrificed it.
In effect, you christians are LYING when you claim Jesus "gave his life" for "our sins". Just accept that and move on.

Alwaystrue:

Thanks, I worship Him because I believe in Him and this was made possible because He sacrificed His life for me. He was bruised for my iniquity, chastised for my peace and scourged for my healing...He did this all for ME and for YOU! He died so you may live!
Whether you believe or accept it yet.




Oh yes He did sacrifice His life!
He DIED!!!! Your overnight sleep is not dying.
Do not belittle Jesus Christ's sacrifice for you! I say it again.