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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 12:55pm On Apr 18, 2017
Ibime:


Iniesta was not a CM. Now he is. Even the Raumdeuter that brought this CM argument typed in clear cold letters that "Iniesta was an AM".

Scholes on the other hand was a CM for the 2nd half of his career. Go and check his stats from 1996 to 2004 when he played as an AM (in 4-4-2). Dude was registering 10 to 20 goals per season without fail. So the stats don't back you up.

And BTW, nobody called Scholes the greatest Playmaker of all time and nobody called Drogba the greatest striker of all time. But when it comes to Eunuch, we hear all sort of poetry and eulogy.

If you are an attacking player, you must have stats. Simple. You cannot be an AM, winger or striker and say you are not into scoring or assisting. Fa, fa, fa, foul!

Defensive players are the only ones we will judge qualitatively.

Scholes has been called one of the greatest midfielders of all time, same as Iniesta. Those doing the naming were not looking at stats. Which stats did the likes of Zidane have?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by purplekayc(m): 1:06pm On Apr 18, 2017
Bye bye john terry

Who can forget that miss

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SIRcumalot: 1:09pm On Apr 18, 2017
Terry na the last the man standing for that 04/05 season.
Azpilicueta na the senior man now.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:17pm On Apr 18, 2017
Nihilist:


Scholes has been called one of the greatest midfielders of all time, same as Iniesta. Those doing the naming were not looking at stats. Which stats did the likes of Zidane have?

Who called Scholes the Greatest Midfielder of all time. Seriously oh, I don't mean fellow players like Zidane praising him which players always do to gratiate themselves.

And BTW, Scholes stats are way better than Iniestas. They are already more than twice as good, and if you extrapolate Scholes stats from his AM days alone and gross up for his whole career, they will be 3 or 4 times as good.

Zidanes stats will be top 3 of any 1990s attacking midfielders you wish to name, and are twice as good as Iniestas despite playing in a different lower-scoring era.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SeekinAttention(f): 1:23pm On Apr 18, 2017
Chelshit has no legacy

Local champion Cunte came, chases away their legends loyal players (Mikel, Ivanovic, Terry) away like a local dog, blinds them with 3-4-3 and some 12 straight wins grin

Now who will lead the team? Donkey like Cahill or scumbag like Costa
Or is it Hidden? Or shallow mind Courtois? grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SeekinAttention(f): 1:24pm On Apr 18, 2017
SIRcumalot:
Terry na the last the man standing for that 04/05 season.
Azpilicueta na the senior man.


Costa will become Chelshits new leader
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by bigkesh(m): 1:26pm On Apr 18, 2017
Goodbye to 04/05(Drogba, Lampard, Terry, Cech, Essien, Carvalho, J. Cole)


Welcome 17/18(Belotti, Hazard, Sanchez,Kante , Christiensen, Azpi, Naingolan,Abraham )

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by jonsnow92: 1:26pm On Apr 18, 2017
Ibime:


Who called Scholes the Greatest Midfielder of all time. Seriously oh, I don't mean fellow players like Zidane praising him which players always do to gratiate themselves.

And BTW, Scholes stats are way better than Iniestas. They are already more than twice as good, and if you extrapolate Scholes stats from his AM days alone and gross up for his whole career, they will be 3 or 4 times as good.

Zidanes stats will be top 3 of any 1990s attacking midfielders you wish to name, and are twice as good as Iniestas despite playing in a different lower-scoring era.
Oh so you'll rather take the applauds of pundits(who never kicked a football or coached before) over fellow players who knows how difficult it is to beat a man and yet iniesta does it with elegance...Really?
Even your Lampard respects Iniesta..there's a reason Lampard has his shirt in his Cabinet

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by jonsnow92: 1:31pm On Apr 18, 2017
Ibime..You have still not answered me o..9 man of the match in 5 Major Tournaments played for Spain..2 Finals inclusive.. Need I mention that Xavi played in all these tournaments bar Euro 2016..Take that into context Was Iniesta more Productive or not..Is Iniesta still a Fraud??..Cos you are the one quick to mention Xavi as the yardstick

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 1:31pm On Apr 18, 2017
jonsnow92:
Oh so you'll rather take the applauds of pundits(who never kicked a football or coached before) over fellow players who knows how difficult it is to beat a man and yet iniesta does it with elegance...Really?
Even your Lampard respects Iniesta..there's a reason Lampard has his shirt in his Cabinet

Oga I dey wait for u to explain iniestas peculiarities to me cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 1:46pm On Apr 18, 2017
jonsnow92:
Ibime..You have still not answered me o..9 man of the match in 5 Major Tournaments played for Spain..2 Finals inclusive.. Need I mention that Xavi played in all these tournaments bar Euro 2016..

All are polling booth MOTM, except World Cup final for the goal.

That's how Iniesta went to Euro 2012, made only one assist in Group Stage, made the least key passes, least passes, least goals of the Spain midfield. . . . while Xavi was making all the assists in the tough games.
. yet Iniesta came out the polling booth the winner.

I don't know who is more of a polling booth footballer, David Beckham or the albino. Maybe all these old men at the polling booth want him to marry their daughter, after all they all told us he is the perfect son-in-law.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by jonsnow92: 1:48pm On Apr 18, 2017
diggz:



Tell me iniestas peculiarity? I know of Ronaldinhos, pirlo peculiarities....I know of okochas grin but I know nothing of iniestas. Please , tell me of iniestas peculiarities.

For the record, I am officially declaring iniedo iniesther a fraud based on the NL standard for judging players. You can feel free to call Cruyff or laudrup frauds if you so wish to grin
Forget NL standards jare..Iniesta dribbles more than the Midfielders I mentioned..Iniesta Controls the game much more..Iniesta like I said earlier rarely looses the ball,He has the ability to create and drive an attack out of nothing..Barca can on the defensive and Iniesta gets the ball and instantly changes defense to attack,not by passing but by beating 2-3 players and suddenly he's at the oppositions final third giving the key pass to the right player
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 1:49pm On Apr 18, 2017
Ibime:


I don't know who is more of a polling booth footballer, David Beckham or the albino.

John Terry

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Grundig: 1:54pm On Apr 18, 2017
As cahil go dey chop bench next season, Hazard will become captain should he remain at the bridge.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by jonsnow92: 1:57pm On Apr 18, 2017
Ibime:


All are polling booth MOTM, except World Cup final for the goal.

That's how Iniesta went to Euro 2012, made only one assist in Group Stage, made the least key passes, least passes, least goals of the Spain midfield. . . . while Xavi was making all the assists in the tough games.
. yet Iniesta came out the polling booth the winner.

I don't know who is more of a polling booth footballer, David Beckham or the albino. Maybe all these old men at the polling booth want him to marry their daughter, after all they all told us he is the perfect son-in-law.
Polling booth MOTM?..Says who??..If its about marrying thier daughter,Why didn't they vote for fine boy David Villa??In 2010 World cup David Villa scored 5 goals and was Highest goal scorer along side Muller and James..Y didn't they vote for Him??Iniesta Had 3 MOTM in that same tournament too..I also saw where you said Zidane stats was far better than any of the 1990s Attacking midfielders..Zidane for Juve had 2,5,2,3,14 assists in 5 years with Juve in the 90s..The season he had 14 was the season he moved to Madrid..Are you saying someone who had 12 assists in his first 4 seasons with Juve was also a Fraud??
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 2:05pm On Apr 18, 2017
jonsnow92:
Forget NL standards jare..Iniesta dribbles more than the Midfielders I mentioned..Iniesta Controls the game much more..Iniesta like I said earlier rarely looses the ball,He has the ability to create and drive an attack out of nothing..Barca can on the defensive and Iniesta gets the ball and instantly changes defense to attack,not by passing but by beating 2-3 players and suddenly he's at the oppositions final third giving the key pass to the right player

So iniestas greatness is tied to dribbles alone cuz the creation part is definitely not true.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by jonsnow92: 2:08pm On Apr 18, 2017
diggz:


So iniestas greatness is tied to dribbles alone cuz the creation part is definitely not true.
What creation part is not true??..
Greatness is tied to Dribbles,Vision,Creativity,Elegance..The list goes on and on jhor..OK wait what is Lampard's peculiarly??
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:08pm On Apr 18, 2017
Ibime:

Zidanes stats will be top 3 of any 1990s attacking midfielders you wish to name, and are twice as good as Iniestas despite playing in a different lower-scoring era.

nihilist below are zidanes stats, Do you have any followup questions to ask

At the end of the day you lot will realize its the performance in big games which I have always mentioned that distinguish great players

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 2:10pm On Apr 18, 2017
raumdeuter:


John Terry


Welcome dayo...I hope you have read bykebykes poem on iniesta today?

My guy even agreed iniesta is not a footballer but an artist. At least we are arriving somewhere this days.

Keep dragging Terry o! I will soon nail Ur ass to the wall tongue
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SeekinAttention(f): 2:13pm On Apr 18, 2017
bigkesh:
Goodbye to 04/05(Drogba, Lampard, Terry, Cech, Essien, Carvalho, J. Cole)


Welcome 17/18(Belotti, Hazard, Sanchez,Kante , Christiensen, Azpi, Naingolan,Abraham )



grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin cheesy cheesy grin grin grin
I laugh in takwando
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 2:14pm On Apr 18, 2017
jonsnow92:
What creation part is not true??..
Greatness is tied to Dribbles,Vision,Creativity,Elegance..The list goes on and on jhor..OK wait what is Lampard's peculiarly??

When it comes to dribbles iniesta can't clean Jay Jay boots.

Vision in what context exactly? Iniesta numbers in assist is too poor to be taking seriously.

Elegance? What elegance biko nu? Is iniesta now a model or something?

Creativity ke? What has he been creating except from dribbles you mentioned?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 2:15pm On Apr 18, 2017
raumdeuter:


nihilist below are zidanes stats, Do you have any followup questions to ask

When I tell you to limit those lies to people who didnt watch games then

Lobatan. And that's transfermarkt that we know are generous with their assists counts o.

Zidane passed the eye test not the numbers test.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:17pm On Apr 18, 2017
raumdeuter:


nihilist below are zidanes stats, Do you have any followup questions to ask

At the end of the day you lot will realize its the performance in big games which I have always mentioned that distinguish great players

Is this addressed to me?

Zidane 125 club goals.

Name 3 CAMs from 1990s era with more goals.

This is not Eunuch Iniesther where 100 midfielders from his era have more goals.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:20pm On Apr 18, 2017
Nihilist:


Lobatan. And that's transfermarkt that we know are generous with their assists counts o.

Zidane passed the eye test not the numbers test.

Such lies can only be told to you young ones.

I have set y'all a challenge to name 3 CAMS from 1990s era that bettered Zidane's 125 club career goals. . . please oblige by daybreak.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:22pm On Apr 18, 2017
Ibime:


Is this addressed to me?

Zidane 125 club goals.

Name 3 CAMs from 1990s era with more goals.

This is not Eunuch Iniesther where 100 midfielders from his era have more goals.

Ibime you saw the image I posted yet you are still lying like this

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:23pm On Apr 18, 2017
Look at this carefully digest it(hope it doesnt make you fatter) and revise your statements before I start asking you to back it with money

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by jonsnow92: 2:26pm On Apr 18, 2017
diggz:


When it comes to dribbles iniesta can't clean Jay Jay boots.

Vision in what context exactly? Iniesta numbers in assist is too poor to be taking seriously.

Elegance? What elegance biko nu? Is iniesta now a model or something?

Creativity ke? What has he been creating except from dribbles you mentioned?
Adana Traore dribbles more than most Player in the EPL this season..Adama can't lace Rashidi(Rashford's boot)..Scholes's vision is one lots of midfielders look up to..How many assists per season does scholes have..If Iniesta isn't creative then Who is creative??..Lallana?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:30pm On Apr 18, 2017
Nihilist:
Lobatan. And that's transfermarkt that we know are generous with their assists counts o.
Zidane passed the eye test not the numbers test.

Where Zidane is distinguished is in his big game performance

He won best player 3 times one was in 2000
2000 he had 5 club goals 1 assist in all comps
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 2:31pm On Apr 18, 2017
Ibime:


Such lies can only be told to you young ones.

I have set y'all a challenge to name 3 CAMS from 1990s era that bettered Zidane's 125 club career goals. . . please oblige by daybreak.

Ordinary David Beckham has more career goals than Zidane, and he was a right midfielder, not a winger.

Based on Goals Beckham should have at least won wpoty if that's the angle you want to follow.

Youri Djorkaeff that scored more than Zidane didn't even win a pin.

The years that Zidane won the league, he scored 9, 9, and 11 goals in all comps for the season. I think he even had only 2 league goals in 98.

Leave story for mattias.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 2:32pm On Apr 18, 2017
Without eve trying, I have disgraced ibime once again

diggz how you see am?

una suppose dey worship me for this thread
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilist: 2:34pm On Apr 18, 2017
raumdeuter:


Where Zidane is distinguished is in his big game performance

He won best player 3 times one was in 2000
2000 he had 5 club goals 1 assist in all comps


Exactly. Obviously his triumphs with France were what swung it for him, not any nebulous goals.

He had 2 league goals in 98 ffs
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 2:36pm On Apr 18, 2017
raumdeuter:


Ibime you saw the image I posted yet you are still lying like this

What image. Wikipedia stats page will help you. 125 goals clear.

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