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Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by jabolo(m): 12:59pm On Apr 19, 2017 |
Is there particular reason why our local architects don't specify the space between the roof rafters for additional rooms / storage or utilities? In other foreign climes, this is usually one cheap way of increasing the building acreage. Happy to be educated. See this example, lots of potential space ... https://www.nairaland.com/3121761/step-step-construction-5-bedroom#45917596 1 Like
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Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by KolaShangOne(m): 6:19pm On Apr 19, 2017 |
Our Architects do. That's why it's important to have a sit down with your Architect and tell him what you want and what you don't. The major reason why Nigerians don't put living spaces in the roof is because of the WEATHER. Nigeria is very HOT. We are talking between 27 to 35 degrees everyday. You won't even be able to breathe in the roof and you'll be sweating like the "Christmas goat" As with home designs and living spaces, adaptability is the key word. we can't copy Europe bumper to bumper. I hope this reply helps. 26 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by jabolo(m): 12:32am On Apr 20, 2017 |
KolaShangOne: It sure does. Thanks for taking the time. I'd welcome examples in Nigeria, I just have not seen any. I was not actually thinking in terms of 'copying Europe bumper to bumper' but more of efficient use of space. Arizona (US) is hotter than many places in Nigeria but you do find lofts (or, Attics) gainfully employed in buildings. I'm sure ventilation can be carefully planned and the roofing material chosen to reduce the heat effect. In my case, the original designs have been passed, and construction is in earnest as costed according to the original BoFQ. I'm thinking the conversion could be retrofitted later so, like you say, I'll talk to my Architect about what measures to put in place now. 2 Likes |
Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by Nobody: 5:27am On Apr 20, 2017 |
jabolo: I'm glad someone else brought it up because frankly, I was getting tired of folks thinking that Nigeria has a unique weather system. Interestingly enough though, this high roof is not what we need in Nigeria. We need adobe type roofs in Arizona/Nevada/Spain and then we litter the tops with solar panels. ![]() 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by sustainable: 7:23am On Apr 20, 2017 |
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Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by Castle88: 7:25am On Apr 20, 2017 |
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Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by saydfact(m): 7:26am On Apr 20, 2017 |
The architect works on the client's brief... The level of client exposure is a major factor in what he requests and what u eventually design. However, we're not a people who naturally think in that direction... 3 Likes |
Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by money121(m): 7:28am On Apr 20, 2017 |
Nice thread 1 Like |
Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by omogidi234(m): 7:28am On Apr 20, 2017 |
MOD. Tiri Gbosas for you oh! Not yet a significant discussion, yet on FP. |
Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by Scatterscatter(m): 7:29am On Apr 20, 2017 |
I've seen houses in Nigeria that adopt such. For instance, my work place has such design. With a good air conditioning unit, you won't have any heat issues. The issue is, most people aren't aware of such concept so they don't factor it in their requirements. 4 Likes |
Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by money121(m): 7:34am On Apr 20, 2017 |
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Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by Nobody: 7:35am On Apr 20, 2017 |
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Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by Truefederalism(m): 7:35am On Apr 20, 2017 |
architecture is bae http://www.archfiler.com/osborne-towers-the-architecture/ |
Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by money121(m): 7:43am On Apr 20, 2017 |
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Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by Truefederalism(m): 7:43am On Apr 20, 2017 |
vickzie: EgunMogaji: This your example will work perfectly in the North. In the South however, you will only be causing yourself heartache if you insist on this roof type. Flat roofs are not very sustainable in the South. There are everyday cases of people in the south changing from their flat roofs to pitched. You should look at their reasons for that. http://www.archfiler.com/design-errors-factors-to-avoid/ Scatterscatter: It will be wrong for any architect to design based on trend or on strict public expectation. Even when the clients demands something that we believe cannot work, it is our duty to advise him on why we should not include it. When we design we factor a lot of things into our projects. This is why we get pissed when people say Architects just draw lines. There is psychology, culture, art, structure, cost, maintenance, material, religion, politics, etc to be considered in all designs. You cannot plan a space in Nigeria without considering the long term effect of such spaces on its user. What if he does not have the capacity to run air conditioners? what if something happens and say, in the next 10 years he runs out of cash? This is not a place where you have or are guaranteed steady power supply. The high roofs you see are both to protect the building and its occupants from both rain and sun, and heat. (even though I'm not a fan of the "send down the rain" pattern) For the idea of utilizing roof space (incorporating attics), people do it here. I have done it also. You see it mostly in buildings; bungalow or otherwise that have some sort of pent floor, and where the roof is continuous and covers both pent floor and the other. one problem we have down here is that most people, architects and clients inclusive, have become deeply engrossed in western and European designs. We forget that no two buildings are the same, and no two locations are the same also. That it worked in Abuja is not a guarantee that it will work elsewhere, even in Lokoja. If anything, what we should advocate is a minimalist approach to Pitches and not its total eradication. 7 Likes |
Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by obinna2nv(m): 7:47am On Apr 20, 2017 |
Can someone give me the rough estimate cost of Reroofing a 6 bedroom bungalow with a sit out. Thanks. |
Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by vickzie(m): 7:55am On Apr 20, 2017 |
As an architect, I have always wondered why my colleagues in the profession don't incorporate these kind of ideas in designs, the roof is a whole lot of space that can be utilized. 4 Likes
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Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by vickzie(m): 7:56am On Apr 20, 2017 |
more 2 Likes
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Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by vickzie(m): 7:57am On Apr 20, 2017 |
and more 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by DisGuy: 8:00am On Apr 20, 2017 |
Maybe because the houses are usually already over built and bigger than necessary... some roofs are bigger than the main structure 4 Likes |
Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by Mrjo(m): 8:00am On Apr 20, 2017 |
jabolo:is a matter of choice our team hav done so many of that 1 Like |
Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by texazzpete(m): 8:06am On Apr 20, 2017 |
KolaShangOne: This is because we design our houses like prisons. Concrete edifices with tiny little windows. When the concrete-window ratio is like 99:1, why won't houses heat up, especially with limited cross-ventilation? 4 Likes |
Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by Truefederalism(m): 8:09am On Apr 20, 2017 |
texazzpete: lol. This is not entirely the fault of architects. have you taken a look at the architecture of the houses our forefathers lived in. You should try comparing the structure to what we have today. I think there was cultural adaptation along the line, and there are reasons why it was; security, privacy, ostentatious living, and a lot of other factors. These things are changing though. Don't worry. When you are ready to build I believe your architect will not reject your proposal for an organic architecture. 1 Like |
Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by Immorttal: 8:14am On Apr 20, 2017 |
Interesting and eye opening ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by DisGuy: 8:22am On Apr 20, 2017 |
It will be wrong for any architect to design based on trend or on strict public expectation passed through an area in abuja, about 80% of the houses look the same! One would think they all use the same architect or perhaps they all used the same textbooks in university ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by joeleerules(m): 9:17am On Apr 20, 2017 |
jabolo: Last year, in one of the buildings we erected the client asked for something like this but was used partly as the control room for the cctv, dstv and the luggage room, it was beautiful. I loved the idea but not at first though. 5 Likes |
Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by Squillionaire: 9:23am On Apr 20, 2017 |
It's a good thing we are asking these questions now, they are too many buildings with kingpost as high as 6metres scatterd all over the place. This does nothing but increase the cost of roofing, materials and even diminish the character of the building, especially when taken in proportion to the overall height of the building. 5 Likes |
Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by Nobody: 9:31am On Apr 20, 2017 |
Truefederalism: This is what I'm talking about. Shey e no dey rain in Arizona/Nevada/New Mexico ni? 1 Like |
Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by jabolo(m): 9:33am On Apr 20, 2017 |
Mrjo: joeleerules: Thanks Guys, and good to know there are examples out there in Nigeria. To the extent you could share details/designs/photos etc, it would be appreciated by this forum. 2 Likes |
Re: Quick Question On Roof Space Utility by Truefederalism(m): 9:39am On Apr 20, 2017 |
EgunMogaji: what is the frequency and velocity of their rain? |
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