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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:50am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Icon4s: What is all this now. The only opportunity too see our local teams and appreciate some of our local stadiums. Guess we need dannycrusoe now even more than before. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:53am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Icon4s: Mutui, Amuneke and Oliseh all have UEFA Pro license. He even got his own before Oliseh but we know na connection dem dey take get job for NFF as you rightly said. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 9:53am On Apr 21, 2017 |
forgiveness: I haven't contributed to this discussion, I just don't know all these players well enough. To start making deductions. However, in assessing these players we seem to be talking about past glories. We need to look at the present continous. Beating 2/3 or even 4 players in youth football and trying the same in a professional competitive game are completely two different things. Taking it further dribbling and beating your player in the Finnish league is a lot different from trying it in La Liga or the EPL. I can't say anything about Awoniyi beyond his stats are very poor and no amount of dribbling can change that. 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 9:56am On Apr 21, 2017 |
komekn:a million likes for your comment sir. you're blessed |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:01am On Apr 21, 2017 |
forgiveness: Mutiu has been more occupied with being part of the Shooting stars board.D't think he has been aggressive about a national team coaching job. Nobody even hears any comment credited to him. Look at Ikpeba and Amokachi. They are regular faces on our TV screens. But Mutiu, the last time I saw him on TV was during Yekini's burial as he was part of the burial organisng committee. I do not know Mutiu that closely. Does he have communications problems? 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:03am On Apr 21, 2017 |
TheGoodJoe: You know players improve and some do not infact they diminish. This is even more pronounced at youth level. All I have heard about Awoniyi so far, is. PAST GLORIES of yesteryears. How good is he now ![]() ![]() ![]() KC whether we like it or not has improved, however, Awoniyi simply has not. Indeed he has regressed. So he is essentially no longer relevant, until he can show progression. In my opinion barring a miracle he will never play for Liverpool. Danny Ings cannot get into the side and he has proven pedigree and cost in excess of £10 million. Right now trying to offload Awoniyi to a Vanarama national league side would be problematic. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:06am On Apr 21, 2017 |
komekn: The bolded is why I rated Osimhen, K. Nwakali, Yahaya and Awoniyi based mainly on their U17 and U20 performances as I have not really seen them play as professionals. People need to understand that professional football is a lot different from cadet football. All those Awoniyi's U7 videos sef. Show me his 2016/2017 video, that is what matters now. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 10:10am On Apr 21, 2017 |
jamel9:thanks bro.... I don't tire to talk about this matter.. he could not even make reference to KVB of man city 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:11am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Icon4s: Thank you very much. Let's stop dancing to three years ago music there are new dance steps and better music. Haba 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:13am On Apr 21, 2017 |
I laugh when I see questions like this...... Partly because it is the perfect opportunity for anyone to come on board and just say, 'well he used to have but pep has drilled it outta him...... The drilling school at the Etihad campus is anti-dribbling bla Bla Bla......' AND PARTLY AGAIN...... because It shows how short many people's memories are. Iheanacho...... Kelechi Iheanacho has never lost and will never lose his dribbling abilities. AGAINST Senegal, he was our most daring player when on the ball in the final third.... He showed daring skill moves on some occasions and una still dey ask if Nacho can dribble?? Which kain analytical discussions una dey get these days sef? I need not go further into other games..... Zambia? Tanzania? Luxembourg?? Na wa oooo.... At Man City, Nacho has also shown same abilities albeit not so often as under pellegrini, he didn't need to be so flashy.... while under Pep, he is not exactly enjoying Pep's trust/confidence and haven't been given the opportunity to shine as much.... his best game under pep till date remains that Southampton game where he showed huge glimpses of his limitless talents. But honestly.... Na wa oooo.... Iheanacho this, iheanacho that.... Almost every time, one dig or the other is aimed at the young man and worst... Things are said about his abilities which are so far from the truth.... ALL OF UNA SHOULD FEAR GOD OOOOO ![]() And Egbon Forgiveness.... Abeg.... I take God beg you fa.... biko... abeg... I rate Taiwo Awoniyi so high... I am one of his few remaining believers on this thread sef.... u should know this by now.... I will never underrate that young man but plsss.... let us not sell the wrong info that Awoniyi is actually more technically gifted than Iheanacho... because even Awoniyi himself would disagree with you.... In Iheanacho, we are talking about a player who provided four out of Awoniyi's five goals at the U-17s if not all sef.... (if u doubt it... I can give you the matches for the four assists I know 100% by just verbal citation which you can go check out on YouTube)... I mean... these are games I watch again and again in my free time when I just wanna remind myself of when the Journey to the Birth of our second golden generation began..... and even for reasons beyond that. Do you remember That Isaac Success goal against Sweden? It was rated the no.7 best goal at the 2013 FIFA U-17 WC because of is exquisiteness and execution.... You know who the provider of the assist was? yep... Kelechi himself... and Isaac was the finisher and would have gone on to destroy more opponents sef but injury happened shortly after that goal. Talking of Awoniyi.... I will tell you we have a super hardworking player who contributes so much to Teamwork. Even Gyan Asamoah singled out Awoniyi for his uniqueness which is based on him being a hardworker upfront... this is why and how Awoniyi picked up five assists.... He was and still is a hard worker for the team and also possesses a subtlly fine sleek touch which he uses sometimes to beat one man and get into scoring positions... but ultimately, Awoniyi is a galloping horse upfront who can run for hours and not get tired. #HighWorkrate [b]And also note.... Abeg.. anyone saying Awoniyi no get Aerial abilities.... una don fail am oooo.... against Sweden wetin him use score? and also as bonus... who set up the goal after nice work by Yahaya in the middle before spreading to the right for the "assist maker" to come in...? ![]() ![]() In that team, Musa Yahaya was the doyen when it came to limitless technical abilities closely followed by Isaac Success and then Kelechi Iheanacho (even as highly as I rate him this is the truth... na him be third most technically gifted back then.... I used to rate him second to Yahaya but again Success' injury made a lot of people miss out on what that lad would have done to opponents but ofcos... if he hasn't , Awoniyi won't get his chance... so life or should I say, opportunity happened). So uhmmm... Sir Madaboi.... Kelechi Promise Iheanacho don't just still have dribbling in his skills closet... he actually has it in abundance.... only that they are being inhibited at man city.... but in Super Eagles games, you still see the class and the brilliance of the lad... All nacho needs now is a team and coach who believes in him and trusts him and won't knock him even when he flunks just like How Awoniyi is enjoying his manager's confidence despite his barren run. Iheanacho needs the permission from his manager to express himself..... because under pellegrini, we saw just flashes of it because of pellegrini's style.... and Nacho had to be more direct. And now under Pep.... he hardly or infact does not sees chances... But his most expressive performance still remain that game at the etihad when he rescued Man City against Southampton. The lad still got it and doesn't look like losing such class. ![]() maidaboi: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:17am On Apr 21, 2017 |
komekn: When people always say Awoniyi has regressed I always say a NO to that. I will always say his development has slowed down. Or his development has fallen short of people's expectations. I believe he is still developing and may come up one day as one of our top strikers, though unlikely. He is just 19, I personally do not rule out any striker until he is 26. Awoniyi was not what people thought he was in the first place. I have never rated him highly. He was over-rated. There are some strikers you see score few goals at that level yet you can still rate them highly. Awoniyi is not much technically gifted /Talented. He is an average striker that has learnt a lot from a very good coach as he seems a player that really plays to instruction. That was very evident in Manu picking him ahead of Success at U20. Also he is very enterprising. But all these can only push you to a certain level. He has gotten to the level where he has to face real professionals who know how to snuff out attackers. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:17am On Apr 21, 2017 |
My Oga.... me sef dey Wonder why we still dey hammer on U-17, and U-20..... when we get pressing senior matters to handle.... we are going forward abi not backwards? Egbon Forgiveness... when we say Iheanacho was best at U-17... u used to say... "na tata competition naa" Now you bring it back as major yardstick to rate Awoniyi.... Bia... I will tell thunder to fire you oooo... ![]() Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:21am On Apr 21, 2017 |
SHOCKING NEWS 4 ME !!! Ugo Ehiogu is dead Cardiac Arrest, knew him personally as a youth coach at Tottenham really nice guy cannot believe it. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:26am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Bia..... e don do... stop taking us backwards biko..... ![]() We are dealing with current situation now... we are building a new super team that can possibly become our next golden generation..... and Awoniyi is still very Much in the picture. Lad will bloom again hopefully... Meanwhile.... tell Ajagun to keep it up ooo.... because I was so impressed with him in his last game. Due has always been a baller but just needs to keep the consistency going.... I was quite busy to come online and say anything about him. He made me smile in Roda JC's win the last time.... ![]() forgiveness: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:29am On Apr 21, 2017 |
komekn: So sad! He just slumped yesterday. RIP Ugochukwu Ehiogu. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:31am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Ajax is a team that has impressed me so much this season. I just love the dynamism of their youth and all.... Andre Onana, Davy Klaasen, Bertrand Traore, Hakim Ziyech, Davinson Sanchez, et al.... fine young team.... and I hope they can get their hands on the Europa title but well.... man united stands in their way I guess... ![]() And yeah... the Belgian sides gave a good account in this season's Europa... no doubts, the Belgian league has good quality and can be a "major" hub for our young footballers beginning their pro careers in europe. tbaba1234: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:33am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Was a tiny little kid when he was an active footballer. I know the name but nothing more beyond that. I know he played for Middlesborough or so.... RIP Sir Ugo.... ![]() komekn: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:36am On Apr 21, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: As if you don't know that guy. He will call a tourney tata competition but if a player he likes takes part in it he will count it as the most important. See as I just dey look am as him dey parrot for this thread. 2 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:45am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Sir Maidaboi..... ![]() Pls pardon me but I won't wanna rate the players just yet as some on your list haven't actually don't much on a higher level. Some are still in the beginning years of their pro careers... while some others are still trying to break into their main teams and Begin to shine.... I will wanna speak based on current stats and not the past. So permit me to pass up on this one ![]() But I kinda like Chief Icon4s' ratings... I recommend it except for a few juggles in positions I would make if permitted... like for instance, I personally would rate Ajagun above Ndidi in dribbling... but hey.... every one has an angle to their list okay.... so Chief Icon4s' resonates with me more.... ![]() maidaboi: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 10:56am On Apr 21, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: You also look at the level of competitiveness in the leagues they play. Ndidi even as a DM in the EPL still poses that level of skills display. Its a plus for the young man. Well, Its my opinion anyways. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:57am On Apr 21, 2017 |
NPFL TOP SCORER RACE | NO COMPETITION WITH ODEY SAYS SAMUEL MATHIAS ![]() MFM's Stephen Odey(top), El-Kanemi's Samuel Mathias (bottom left), Enyimba's Mfon Udoh (bottom right) El-Kanemi Warriors’ Samuel Mathias has said that he is not in any competition with MFM hitman, Stephen Odey for the league highest goals scorer award. The Desert Warriors midfielder has downplayed any suggestions that he is competing with the Olukoya Boys marksman for the top flight’s Golden Boot From the attacking midfield role, Mathias has scored ten goals while Odey has scored 14 goals after 19 matches. However, he insists there is no pressure to compete with the forward as he is focused on helping his team. “I have played against Stephen Odey and I think he is a good striker and he’s doing well for himself and his team,” Mathias said. “For me, being the second highest goals scorer, I don’t feel any sort of pressure with Odey. There isn’t any kind of competition between me and Odey, he’s got his goals to score and I have mine too. “My role and focus is to help my team, we want to win every match we play so that is what I want. “We are like a big family here at El-Kanemi Warriors, we promised ourselves to finish the race. We have enjoyed working together as a team and we shall by God’s grace fulfill our promise at the start of the season to meet our set target,” he concluded. Source: http://www.thebreakingtimes.com/npfl-top-scorer-race-no-competition-with-odey-says-samuel-mathias/ 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jamel9: 10:58am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Humility017:No mind am joor. Anybody wey won follow Thegoodjoe argue must get full battery and a powerbank, because that person is in for a long ride. So abeg, Thegoodjoe na mistake i take quote you ooo. Forgive me and save me from this ride, lol. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:01am On Apr 21, 2017 |
..... and I respect it. ![]() Lord Analyst himself... Oga Experience of the house.... Arch guardian elite..... I greet you sir... ![]() Icon4s: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Humility017(m): 11:01am On Apr 21, 2017 |
jamel9: Lol....you nailed it I guess he is a lawyer... his kind will give any judge a run for his money 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:02am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Looooollll..... at least you admit to The Legend of TheGoodJoe..... hahahahahahahahaha jamel9: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:07am On Apr 21, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd: Na only me waka come play here. I no carry those titles come o. ![]()
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:12am On Apr 21, 2017 |
jamel9: Though controversial as he may sound, but I prefer an argument with him to having one with forgiveness. That one go use ewedu stew rub you for body ![]() ![]() 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jamel9: 11:18am On Apr 21, 2017 |
TheSuperNerd:My brother i no go lie, afraid dey catch me. Thegoodjoe can go up against the Universe, but what you can't take away from him is his indepth knowledge. 4 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jamel9: 11:23am On Apr 21, 2017 |
Icon4s:Abeg Sir no kill me here with laugh. Both of them na one of a kind. But their contributions are priceless! |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jamel9: 11:38am On Apr 21, 2017 |
komekn:So sad to hear, just like that, he is no more. RIP Ugo. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 11:42am On Apr 21, 2017 |
jamel9: Just like most other guys here too. But the uniqueness of this thread is in the way we argue without throwing insults. If we all reason alike this thread for nova reach page 100 by now. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:45am On Apr 21, 2017 |
komekn: Well, I am only telling people what I saw. ![]() Dem say Awoniyi no sabi dribble at all at all but the video said otherwise hence the need to do the needful. ![]() It is not about past or current situation but about the ability to dribble. You get my point? ![]() |
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