bigkesh:
Fabregas, Conte, Drogba, Lampard and Terry should call Hazard's wife, dad and mum for a meeting, to talk sense into that Mumu boy



Be selfish! !!!!!!

Fabregas is right, on the ball Only Messi is better.. ..Guys like Neymar and Grizzy are scoring more

no, on the ball I think neymar is better, he was all tricks and flicks until Barcelona told him to be more direct, not disputing hazard's ability on the ball though

worthy mention
Sanchez

Chelsea's Eden Hazard can become
"unstoppable" and is second only to Lionel
Messi in ability, according to team-mate Cesc
Fabregas.
The Belgian has rediscovered the scintillating
form of Chelsea's last title-winning season, in
2014/15, to fire the Blues to the top of the
Premier League and towards a possible double
after coming off the bench to help his side
beat Tottenham 4-2 in the FA Cup semi-final
at Wembley on Saturday.
Chelsea vs So'ton
April 25, 2017, 7:30pm
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The 26-year-old scored Chelsea's third against
Spurs for his 15th goal of the season, and
Fabregas, who was a team-mate of Messi's at
Barcelona, says Hazard can get even better if he
becomes more selfish in front of goal.
Hazard is second only in ability to Lionel
Messi, says Fabregas
"Eden can be whatever he wants to be,"
Fabregas said. "Ability wise, there is only one
player above him and we all know who he is:
Messi.
"Sometimes when we have a counter attack and
it's two against two and he passes the ball, I
tell him, 'You have the capability to score by
yourself. Do it'.
Hazard scored for Chelsea against Tottenham
"He has to do it more often. I've told him
many, many times, he needs to be selfish
sometimes and have that killer instinct to score
more goals. I hope - and I'm sure - he will
improve in the future. And then he will be
unstoppable."
Chelsea are four points clear of Tottenham and,
should they hold on and clinch the title, they
can achieve the double for the first time since
2009/10 under Carlo Ancelotti, and in Antonio
Conte's first season, with FA Cup final victory
over Arsenal on May 27.
Fabregas is eyeing the double with Chelsea
"It's something special and it's something very
difficult to do," Fabregas said. "Nowadays,
especially here in England. Because in Spain
you can do it. In Germany you can do it. In
Italy. Doing it here would be something
special, something to be very proud of. But to
be able to do that, first of all we have to work
very hard.
"Secondly, sometimes you need a bit of luck.
Definitely we need to be very, very consistent
until the end of the season.
It's a heavyweight week of action live only on
Sky Sports.
Fabregas also came off the bench against
Spurs, but he says, whether starting or not,
the Chelsea squad is united.
"What I like is that we scored the first goal
and everyone on the bench was together and
celebrating," he added. "[But] coming on to
make a difference, to show character, to show
hunger to win... we're full of winners and I'm
proud to be here."
www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/10848821/chelseas-eden-hazard-is-second-only-to-lionel-messi-in-ability-says-cesc-fabregas

bigkesh:
Fabregas, Conte, Drogba, Lampard and Terry should call Hazard's wife, dad and mum for a meeting, to talk sense into that Mumu boy



Be selfish! !!!!!!

Fabregas is right, on the ball Only Messi is better.. ..Guys like Neymar and Grizzy are scoring more

lol

Ibime:


Which one be Premier League awards?

There are only 3 major awards - PFA players award, PFA fans award, and Football Writers Award. . . . . . of which PFA Players Award is the Daddy.

Which one is Premier League Awards - Is that given out by Goal.com? We have never heard of that one here in Somalia.

The Barclays player of the Season. Hazard won it in 2015.

If costa no go China make i know wetin cause am.

www.skysports.com/football/news/11668/10844402/tianjin-quanjian-working-to-sign-diego-costa-from-chelsea-sky-sources

airmark:


Hazard won it 2 seasons ago. That's the award from the organizers of the epl.

My nigga, I'm telling you that award is as irrelevant as the k in knife.

PFA is the only koko, followed by FWA.

You can ask anyone based in UK.

dopeJemi:


no, on the ball I think neymar is better, he was all tricks and flicks until Barcelona told him to be more direct, not disputing hazard's ability on the ball though

worthy mention
Sanchez

do you mean the Sanchez that is most dispossessed player in the league?

airmark:
Fabregas said: “Ability wise, there is only one player above Eden, and we all know who that is: Messi. Eden is up there with the best.

“But I’ve told him many times, he needs to be selfish and have that killer instinct – then he will be whatever he wants to be.

“Eden is pushing to that level, and we have to help him. Sometimes when it’s two against two and he passes, I tell him ‘Score yourself. Do it’. He has to do it more often, be more selfish, as all the top players are. Then he will be unstoppable.

That's the bitter truth. This is the best time for him to put that into action, since costa has turned to a barren entity. I liked it when he dribbled costa to give matic that pass, to score. Hazard should start playing as if we have no striker.

Hazard doesn't make the runs to score 25 goals a season, much less 40 needed to start comparing yourself to such names.

Secondly if he is passing instead of shooting, his assist should be close to 40 if Fabregas argument is that he assists instead of scoring.

The above quote is pie in the sky. He is far far away, even if he became selfish and converted all his assists to goals, he wouldn't have much to compare himself with Messi and CR7.

I'm sorry, that's just the truth. Hardly will you see Hazard making the kind of run that Messi made for the winning goal yesterday, or that Alli made for the equaliser on Saturday. That's what gets you to 30 goals, not super stories that you should convert your paltry 10 assists into goals.

Hazard got a lot of improving to do on timing his runs and anticipation if he wants to hang with the big dogs.

Ibime:


Hazard doesn't make the runs to score 25 goals a season, much less 40 needed to start comparing yourself to such names.

Secondly if he is passing instead of shooting, his assist should be close to 40 if Fabregas argument is that he assists instead of scoring.

The above quote is pie in the sky. He is far far away, even if he became selfish and converted all his assists to goals, he wouldn't have much to compare himself with Messi and CR7.

I'm sorry, that's just the truth. Hardly will you see Hazard making the kind of run that Messi made for the winning goal yesterday, or that Alli made for the equaliser on Saturday. That's what gets you to 30 goals, not super stories that you should convert your paltry 10 assists into goals.

Hazard got a lot of improving to do on timing his runs and anticipation if he wants to hang with the big dogs.

To be honest, I am yet to understand how hazard creates one of the highest number of chances in Europe and still have less number of assists.
This your ranking of players based on only stats alone has been found wanting a lot of times and the case of Iniesta is still one of them.

Greatihex:
To be honest, I am yet to understand how hazard creates one of the highest number of chances in Europe and still have less number of assists.
This your ranking of players based on only stats alone has been found wanting a lot of times and the case of Iniesta is still one of them.

The Messis and CR7s, Neymar, Suarez and Bales are there based on stats, don't let that fool you. If CR7 or Messi score only 15 goals next season, they will lose their crown, it's that simple. That's who Hazard is competing with. What you call "stats" are actually game-winning goals and assists. Eunuch is the only special case whose case is different. He is blessed and highly favoured.

Hazard must improve his runs. Hardly will you see Hazard scoring tapins, or goals where he only needs one touch. Most of his goals involve dribbling a man or two before finishing. Until he starts making those runs he should forget comparison with the top dogs. Pedro is about to outscore him two seasons in a row without penalties.

Nihilist:
Pep is a fool sha.

You're losing 2-1 in ectra time amd youre still instructing your boys to play sideways and backwards passes instead and launching L1+/\ balls.

Leroy Sane made at least 3 or 4 mad runs that Yaya Toure and KDB refused to use. Navas refused to run forward and was tapping ball in his half. Sterling was looking like lookman.

Even Iheanacho made one or two sharp diagonal runs that were not utilized. He now had to go back to his half to play hold up ball.

Shocking from Pep.

In similar scenarios seasons ago, we've seen Kompany pushed up to play as an auxiliary CF for route one football but no, Pep thinks otherwise...
Don't know what his fueling his obsession for tiki-taka but he is losing it. Funny enough, I have seen him push Pique up before, don't know why he just doesn't fancy it anymore, maybe down to his ego after berating other coaches for doing same.

Ibime:


The Messis and CR7s, Neymar, Suarez and Bales are there based on stats, don't let that fool you. If CR7 or Messi score only 15 goals next season, they will lose their crown, it's that simple. That's who Hazard is competing with. What you call "stats" are actually game-winning goals and assists. Eunuch is the only special case whose case is different. He is blessed and highly favoured.

Hazard must improve his runs. Hardly will you see Hazard scoring tapins, or goals where he only needs one touch. Most of his goals involve dribbling a man or two before finishing. Until he starts making those runs he should forget comparison with the top dogs. Pedro is about to outscore him two seasons in a row without penalties.

remove bale abeg.. Dude is just occupying the left wing for nothing.. Asensio looks more of a better player than that dude sef..

Ibime:




Never heard of it till today. It's absolutely irrelevant, trust me.

Nah, it's not.. it's actually very important..

The award cut across different sectors of the football world while PFA is just by fellow players

LogoDWhiz:


Nah, it's not.. it's actually very important..

The award cut across different sectors of the football world while PFA is just by fellow players

Maybe that's what the sponsors will sell to you abroad watching on Supersport or Fox Soccer so Barclays can get their reputation up.

In UK, only one award counts and that's PFA. I won't be surprised if UK media like BBC don't report on Premier League Awards sef, or it might barely get a mention.

SIRcumalot:

player of the year Is more important,and Hazard go win that one.

I concur.

Ibime:


Hazard doesn't make the runs to score 25 goals a season, much less 40 needed to start comparing yourself to such names.

Secondly if he is passing instead of shooting, his assist should be close to 40 if Fabregas argument is that he assists instead of scoring.

The above quote is pie in the sky. He is far far away, even if he became selfish and converted all his assists to goals, he wouldn't have much to compare himself with Messi and CR7.

I'm sorry, that's just the truth. Hardly will you see Hazard making the kind of run that Messi made for the winning goal yesterday, or that Alli made for the equaliser on Saturday. That's what gets you to 30 goals, not super stories that you should convert your paltry 10 assists into goals.

Hazard got a lot of improving to do on timing his runs and anticipation if he wants to hang with the big dogs.

The emboldened is not true. Fabegas was not talking about final passes. There are moments hazard would pass balls to the person who gives the final assist to the goal scorer when he could have done it all alone and score. Also how did you expect hazard to have 40 asists with costa and others misfiring from all cylinders in a league most teams park buses? I can list more than 30 final passes from hazard, 15 of which stars in barca and real would have buried. Fab was trying to let him know he could do it alone. Ronaldo is one of the most selfish players in the game but people overlook this area because he has mastered it well as he put the selfishness into great use. This is what fab was telling hazard that with time he could reach such perfection. Ask most strikers, they would tell you their coaches had told them to be selfish in front of goal in training. The mentality made hazard to score that goal against arsenal not waiting for strikers to get into positions and pass. Fab is a professional footballer and i understand where he's coming from, i am not surprised you couldn't relate with his point of view. Trust me those who have played football at top level will tell you fab was right.

Ibime:


Maybe that's what the sponsors will sell to you abroad watching on Supersport or Fox Soccer so Barclays can get their reputation up.

In UK, only one award counts and that's PFA. I won't be surprised if UK media like BBC don't report on Premier League Awards sef, or it might barely get a mention.

As expected, twist like a snake..
This award is very important.

I believe you know about the Monthly awards and how important it is, but all of a sudden you don't want to regard the main one - the Player of the Year

airmark:


The emboldened is not true. Fabegas was not talking about final passes. There are moments hazard would pass balls to the person who gives the final assist to the goal scorer when he could have done it all alone and score. Also how did you expect hazard to have 40 asists with costa and others misfiring from all cylinders in a league most teams park buses? I can list more than 30 final passes from hazard, 15 of which stars in barca and real would have buried. Fab was trying to let him know he could do it alone. Ronaldo is one of the most selfish players in the game but people overlook this area because he has mastered it well as he put the selfishness into great use. This is what fab was telling hazard that with time he could reach such perfection. Ask most strikers, they would tell you their coaches had told them to be selfish in front of goals in training. The mentality made hazard to score that goal against arsenal not waiting for strikers to get into positions and pass. Fab is a professional footballer and i understand where he's coming from, i am not surprised you couldn't relate with his point of view. Trust me those who have played football at top level will tell you fab was right.

I actually made this point about Hazard at the start of the season and it's very true. Hazard needs to be more selfish in his game. Unfortunately, he somehow feels that he carrys the burden of creating chances for the team.

If hazard chose to pass less and shoot more, he would be unstoppable. Statistically the main difference between Hazard and Messi/Ronaldo is the volume and rate of shots. Everything else is not so disimmilar

airmark:


The emboldened is not true. Fabegas was not talking about final passes. There are moments hazard would pass balls to the person who gives the final assist to the goal scorer when he could have done it all alone and score. Also how did you expect hazard to have 40 asists with costa and others misfiring from all cylinders in a league most teams park buses? I can list more than 30 final passes from hazard, 15 of which stars in barca and real would have buried. Fab was trying to let him know he could do it alone. Ronaldo is one of the most selfish players in the game but people overlook this area because he has mastered it well as he put the selfishness into great use. This is what fab was telling hazard that with time he could reach such perfection. Ask most strikers, they would tell you their coaches had told them to be selfish in front of goals in training. The mentality made hazard to score that goal against arsenal not waiting for strikers to get into positions and pass. Fab is a professional footballer and i understand where he's coming from, i am not surprised you couldn't relate with his point of view. Trust me those who have played football at top level will tell you fab was right.

You are wrong mate. Fabregas said he would rather pass than score in a 2-on-1 situation. I expect 50% of 2-on-1 situations to lead to a goal, so unless you show me 20 assists that Hazard made from 2-on-1 situations, this is just pie-in-the-sky theory.

Where I do know Hazard is falling short is in scoring the easy goals - making the run beyond the defence for a first-time finish. Ororo, Messi etc are chopping 20 of these per season, and Hazard is chopping little or none. That is where the difference in goals lies for the most part, not cos he passed the ball in a 2-on-1 situation.

Ibime:


The Messis and CR7s, Neymar, Suarez and Bales are there based on stats, don't let that fool you. If CR7 or Messi score only 15 goals next season, they will lose their crown, it's that simple. That's who Hazard is competing with. What you call "stats" are actually game-winning goals and assists. Eunuch is the only special case whose case is different. He is blessed and highly favoured.

Hazard must improve his runs. Hardly will you see Hazard scoring tapins, or goals where he only needs one touch. Most of his goals involve dribbling a man or two before finishing. Until he starts making those runs he should forget comparison with the top dogs. Pedro is about to outscore him two seasons in a row without penalties.

You will hardly see the likes of Messi, Neymar, Robben et al, running off the ball and waiting for tapins.
These are players who like to get on the ball, collecting it in deeper areas and running at their opponents.

The difference between Messi, Neymar, Robben on one hand and Hazard on the other, is that the first group of players will dribble two players and shoot. Hazard will dribble two players and pass the ball.

CR7 and Suarez does not play the same game as Messi and Neymar. You hardly see Ororo running with the ball like Messi and Neymar. Ororo barely even attempts takeons these days.

Nihilist:


I actually made this point about Hazard at the start of the season and it's very true. Hazard needs to be more selfish in his game. Unfortunately, he somehow feels that he carrys the burden of creating chances for the team.

If hazard chose to pass less and shoot more, he would be unstoppable. Statistically the main difference between Hazard and Messi/Ronaldo is the volume and rate of shots. Everything else is not so disimmilar

Dude used to shoot from outside the box seasons ago, just don't know why he isn't trying anymore.

He needs to work on that seriously.

airmark:


The emboldened is not true. Fabegas was not talking about final passes. There are moments hazard would pass balls to the person who gives the final assist to the goal scorer when he could have done it all alone and score. Also how did you expect hazard to have 40 asists with costa and others misfiring from all cylinders in a league most teams park buses? I can list more than 30 final passes from hazard, 15 of which stars in barca and real would have buried. Fab was trying to let him know he could do it alone. Ronaldo is one of the most selfish players in the game but people overlook this area because he has mastered it well as he put the selfishness into great use. This is what fab was telling hazard that with time he could reach such perfection. Ask most strikers, they would tell you their coaches had told them to be selfish in front of goals in training. The mentality made hazard to score that goal against arsenal not waiting for strikers to get into positions and pass. Fab is a professional footballer and i understand where he's coming from, i am not surprised you couldn't relate with his point of view. Trust me those who have played football at top level will tell you fab was right.

guy everything you wrote here is the truth...

Nihilist:


You will hardly see the likes of Messi, Neymar, Robben et al, running off the ball and waiting for tapins.
These are players who like to get on the ball, collecting it in deeper areas and running at their opponents.

The difference between Messi, Neymar, Robben on one hand and Hazard on the other, is that the first group of players will dribble two players and shoot. Hazard will dribble two players and pass the ball.

CR7 and Suarez does not play the same game as Messi and Neymar. You hardly see Ororo running with the ball like Messi and Neymar. Ororo barely even attempts takeons these days.

If you count the number of first-time finishes for Messi, Ororo etc, I am sure you will find a 20 goal difference to Hazard.

Robben is a special case, but then Robben scores maybe 5 goals more than Hazard a season. Robben is more efficient at dribble and shoot, but the major difference between Ororo, Messi, even Alli and Griezman vs Hazard is that they also get the easy goals from running behind which Hazard doesn't.

LogoDWhiz:


As expected, twist like a snake..
This award is very important.

I believe you know about the Monthly awards and how important it is, but all of a sudden you don't want to regard the main one - the Player of the Year

I believe 20 years of living in UK puts me in a better position to know which award is top dog or not. I don't have any sporting interest except football or boxing, so I should know which is which after 20 years. If you like, you can ask Nihilist or Nateevs.

I don't know how EPL football is packaged for you abroad, maybe the sponsors put their name over the whole thing, but PFA is THE main award. Premier League award is only used for monthly award and is not referenced as anything of significance for the yearly award.

Nihilist:


You will hardly see the likes of Messi, Neymar, Robben et al, running off the ball and waiting for tapins.
These are players who like to get on the ball, collecting it in deeper areas and running at their opponents.

The difference between Messi, Neymar, Robben on one hand and Hazard on the other, is that the first group of players will dribble two players and shoot. Hazard will dribble two players and pass the ball.

CR7 and Suarez does not play the same game as Messi and Neymar. You hardly see Ororo running with the ball like Messi and Neymar. Ororo barely even attempts takeons these days.

all these are the truth about hazards game play

Ibime:


If you count the number of first-time finishes for Messi, Ororo etc, I am sure you will find a 20 goal difference to Hazard.

Robben is a special case, but then Robben scores maybe 5 goals more than Hazard a season. Robben is more efficient at dribble and shoot, but the major difference between Ororo, Messi, even Alli and Griezman vs Hazard is that they also get the easy goals from running behind which Hazard doesn't.

Messi and Neymar don't run in behind that much. I don't know if you've been watching barca this season, but on the Barca thread you will see many Barca fans saying Messi is playing in central midfield these days. That's how deep he's coming to collect the ball.

Neymar also stays posted wide and then runs with the ball at his full back. You don't often see neymar making off the ball runs in behind.

That's why Neymar, Messi, and Hazard have such high dribble per game numbers - 5.6.,3.7 and 4.8 respectively. Because they always have to beat the men in front of them before they can shoot.

Suarez that does most of the running off the ball at Barca makes only 1 dribble per game. 0.4 in the UCL.

The difference is that while Neymar takes 3.5 shots per game, and Messi takes 5.3 shots per game....Hazard only takes 2.1 shots per game.

That's what Fabregas is talking about.

Ibime:


The Messis and CR7s, Neymar, Suarez and Bales are there based on stats, don't let that fool you. If CR7 or Messi score only 15 goals next season, they will lose their crown, it's that simple. That's who Hazard is competing with. What you call "stats" are actually game-winning goals and assists. Eunuch is the only special case whose case is different. He is blessed and highly favoured.

Hazard must improve his runs. Hardly will you see Hazard scoring tapins, or goals where he only needs one touch. Most of his goals involve dribbling a man or two before finishing. Until he starts making those runs he should forget comparison with the top dogs. Pedro is about to outscore him two seasons in a row without penalties.

I stated it weeks back that hazard needed to be running into scoring positions and i could see he is working on that. Now to the emboldened, will you rate pedro over hazard if he outscores hazard this season? There must be a reason you wont dare it. Hazard in a madrid shirt would improve with his numbers, with more quality players behind him, thats a fact.

Greatihex:
To be honest, I am yet to understand how hazard creates one of the highest number of chances in Europe and still have less number of assists.
This your ranking of players based on only stats alone has been found wanting a lot of times and the case of Iniesta is still one of them.

Thats why fab advised him to be more selfish. Not just trying to pull that arsenal's stunt once in a blue moon. Fab advised him to minimise his passes and thats the way to go. In the past benzema would be waiting for ronaldo's pass to tap in, trust ororo he would ignore the fat fool and pull the trigger and score. Benz had no choice than to celebrate with him. This is the art fab was advising hazard on, and believes he could perfect and no one will blame him. What distinguishes top players are not tap-ins but the importance and quality of goals scored. If it's by number of goals, cavani should make top 3 in ballon d'or next year.

bigkesh:
Fabregas, Conte, Drogba, Lampard and Terry should call Hazard's wife, dad and mum for a meeting, to talk sense into that Mumu boy



Be selfish! !!!!!!

Fabregas is right, on the ball Only Messi is better.. ..Guys like Neymar and Grizzy are scoring more

Funny but thats the truth. I believe conte had also told him cause have seen a little improvement. How i wish we have a player like marcelo behind him.

Ibime:


I believe 20 years of living in UK puts me in a better position to know which award is top dog or not. I don't have any sporting interest except football or boxing, so I should know which is which after 20 years. If you like, you can ask Nihilist or Nateevs.

I don't know how EPL football is packaged for you abroad, maybe the sponsors put their name over the whole thing, but PFA is THE main award. Premier League award is only used for monthly award and is not referenced as anything of significance for the yearly award.

This is actually true. PFA award is the main award here in UK and covers down to League 2 I think.

Nihilist:


Messi and Neymar don't run in behind that much. I don't know if you've been watching barca this season, but on the Barca thread you will see many Barca fans saying Messi is playing in central midfield these days. That's how deep he's coming to collect the ball.

Neymar also stays posted wide and then runs with the ball at his full back. You don't often see neymar making off the ball runs in behind.

That's why Neymar, Messi, and Hazard have such high dribble per game numbers - 5.6.,3.7 and 4.8 respectively. Because they always have to beat the men in front of them before they can shoot.

Suarez that does most of the running off the ball at Barca makes only 1 dribble per game. 0.4 in the UCL.

The difference is that while Neymar takes 3.5 shots per game, and Messi takes 5.3 shots per game....Hazard only takes 2.1 shots per game.

That's what Fabregas is talking about.

Are you willing to bet that if we count Messis goals, we wont find 20 first time finishes? Yesterday was one, just by making the right run.

When Neymar is dribbling, Messi is making the run. When Messi is dribbling, Neymar will be making the run.

Dropping deep doesn't mean he doesn't make the run. It even helps him arrive late like yesterday, or like Alli has been doing all season.

Messi's first goal yeterday, you know that Hazard would have try to square the ball to Costa or someone else.

That guy needs more slaps to make him more ruthless in front of goal.

airmark:


I stated it weeks back that hazard needed to be running into scoring positions and i could see he is working on that. Now to the emboldened, will you rate pedro over hazard if he outscores hazard this season? There must be a reason you wont dare it. Hazard in a madrid shirt would improve with his numbers, with more quality players behind him, thats a fact.

No, I'm not rating him over Hazard. I'm just showing you how the right off-the-ball movements can help Hazard score more.

Ibime:


I believe 20 years of living in UK puts me in a better position to know which award is top dog or not. I don't have any sporting interest except football or boxing, so I should know which is which after 20 years. If you like, you can ask Nihilist or Nateevs.

I don't know how EPL football is packaged for you abroad, maybe the sponsors put their name over the whole thing, but PFA is THE main award. Premier League award is only used for monthly award and is not referenced as anything of significance for the yearly award.

Well, how sure are you that i am not in the UK..

But then, it's all good.

You don't know of its existence before, now you do.