Nihilist:


So the Etoo that played at Chelsea was at the peak of his powers like the one at Barca?

Hazard has never played with a player who recently won the golden boot in the same league. NEVER.

Were these not the same Chelsea players Fabregas was raking 18assists from midfield, But they are the players hindering Hidden but these same players cant stop Fabregas

This season Pedro has more assists in less games to the same players that wont let Hazard shine

Nihilist:


Stop comparing Neymar to Hazard or Messi.

Messi and Hazard dribble the exact same way, which is stop and start. Neymar is the one that does tricks

Hazard and Messi just ran past their markers

you are right

but if we look at their runs closely, you will see that messi is way above hazard, hazard is not even close there is sense in every run messi makes

we can still look it up on youtube, messi and hazard, guy you self know

airmark:


Rooney was in fifa best 11 when nani did his double digit. Has hazard played with such quality during his years at chelsea? Use your brain.

Fabregas in the same Chelsea had 18 assists, This season pedro in less minutes has more assists than Hidden Oponu

weedtaker:
shey fabregas no rake double digit assist playing in a two man midfield? what is stopping hazard from doing same with his amazing numbers of chances created?

2012/2013 And 2013/2014 Hazard created the most chances in the league. We then had Torres, Ba, Etoo up front playing nonsense and spoiling ball.

In case you forgot, that season Fabregas raked double digit assists, Hazard won PFA player of the year, and came 8th in the Balon Dor.

I'm not Jayz I can't keep giving you reminders.

weedtaker:
comparing someone who has never scored 30plus league goals in his life to someone who has done it in 5 consecutive seasons is pure madness.

Fabregas advised him on what to do to get those numbers, only fools will fault fab's advice and claim hazard has no ability.

raumdeuter:


[s]WHo should we be comparing him to Mahrez who won the best player but never compare him to David Silva

DId Lampard even win PFA player of the year? Maybe not but we can compare with Mahrez. You wonder why you are called a foool[/s]

Leave lampard out of it. Apari, use your brain as advised.

airmark:


Nope. Nani was a ronaldo's copy cat and a failure at it. Hazard copies no one.

Hazard is just another clone of a superior player,Ribery.
nothing Hazard do wey never see before.
Nani isnt a failure Abeg.

afrodoc2:


No two teams are exactly the same and no two supporting casts are exactly the same.

However the difference between Messi and every footballer not named Ronaldo can't be explained by just supporting cast. The gulf in class is greater than the gulf in supporting cast.
No supporting cast will make Hazard score over 70 club goals like Messi did in 2012 or so.
If that is it every Peter ndlovu and Ezekiel Alamu will claim it is lack of support that made them not score like pele or Romario.

Nobody said supporting cast alone is to blame, but if you say Hazard is nowhere close to Messi without considering how much more inferior this Chelsea team is to Barcelona, then you're not being objective

Nihilist:


2012/2013 And 2013/2014 Hazard created the most chances in the league. We then had Torres, Ba, Etoo up front playing nonsense and spoiling ball.

In case you forgot, that season Fabregas raked double digit assists, Hazard won PFA player of the year, and came 8th in the Balon Dor.

I'm not Jayz I can't keep giving you reminders.

with how many goals and assists?

SIRcumalot:

Hazard is just another clone of a superior player,Ribery.
nothing Hazard do wey never see before.
Nani isnt a failure Abeg.

He must be such a huge success getting loaned to portuguese league at 28 years, not being the best player in the league like hazard.

Nihilist:


Nobody said supporting cast alone is to blame, but if you say Hazard is nowhere close to Messi without considering how much more inferior this Chelsea team is to Barcelona, then you're not being objective

I am not hating on Hazard.
It was AFTER considering his supporting cast that I said he is not near him. I made adjustments for that and he is not near.
In the history of the game they are looking for who to place ahead of Messi and struggling and you people want to compare one 11 goal a season player to him.
Since Hazard came to Chelsea he has 55 league goals and Messi had 174 or 175, that is a factor of 3!
If u explain that with supporting cast then the difference between Clem ohameze and Marlon Brando was supporting cast and the difference between Aboutrika and Zidane was supporting cast.

dopeJemi:


I have seen messi turn players like eba, skill is not just legovers

So you have not seen Hazard turning player like Amala? Anyways, You nor know ball so make I nor follow you debate.

Nihilist:


Stop comparing Neymar to Hazard or Messi.

Messi and Hazard dribble the exact same way, which is stop and start. Neymar is the one that does tricks

Hazard and Messi just ran past their markers

That guy nor know ball.

airmark:


He must be such a huge success getting loaned to portuguese league at 28 years, not being the best player in the league like hazard.

he was a huge success as he only stayed one season,where he showed Utd fans it was crazy to loan him and got a move to Valencia. scored a dopeass goal too.

you agree say Hazard na poor man Ribery?

hensben:
So you have not seen Hazard turning player like Amala? Anyways, You nor know ball so make I nor follow you debate.

Screen that one out. Someone who based his opinions on youtube edited videos that can be made by the likes of raumdeuter to judge. I can prepare videos that will make valdes look better than de gea this season.

airmark:


He must be such a huge success getting loaned to portuguese league at 28 years,

van gaal was the failure not nani.

not being the best player in the league like hazard.

best player with how many league goals? that's why hazard will forever be a local champion. dem no born you well to bcome no.1 for world with 14league goals playing as an attacker.

hensben:
So you have not seen Hazard turning player like Amala? Anyways, You nor know ball so make I nor follow you debate.

go to YouTube, bring out the best of hazard and messi, compare them yourself

dey use your head sometimes, it is effortless and it doesn't hurt

SIRcumalot:

he was a huge success as he only stayed one season,where he showed Utd fans it was crazy to loan him and got a move to Valencia. scored a dopeass goal too.

[s]you agree say Hazard na poor man Ribery? [/s]

You dont even know all about the player you are flying his kite here. Nani was sold to fenerbahce for a paltry sum less than 5m. Only a failure bought at 25m will leave for that amount at 28 years. Like i said only fools will drag nani near hazard. Let it slide.

dopeJemi:


go to YouTube, bring out the best of hazard and messi, compare them yourself

dey use your head sometimes, it is effortless and it doesn't hurt

You don change mouth again. Just go Abeg

airmark:


Screen that one out. Someone who based his opinions on youtube edited videos that can be made by the likes of raumdeuter to judge. I can prepare videos that will make valdes look better than de gea this season.

You dey mind that one. Guys wey nor know how to play ball go dey yarn dust.

airmark:


Screen that one out. Someone who based his opinions on youtube edited videos that can be made by the likes of raumdeuter to judge. I can prepare videos that will make valdes look better than de gea this season.

I dare you to edit hazard's skill videos to be better than messi's, you have all the time in the world, that your 1k dollz at stake

you dey talk like say the videos na Photoshop and no be the players dey do am, i have been following messi since 2006 and I can beat my chest and say hazard is no where near messi

na you we suppose screen comot

weedtaker:
van gaal was the failure not nani. best player with how many league goals? that's why hazard will forever be a local champion. dem no born you well to bcome no.1 for world with 14league goals playing as an attacker.

Kids everywhere! Before cr7 and Messi players were becoming number 1 in the world with less or no goal and after them it will happen.

hensben:
You don change mouth again. Just go Abeg

i hate dull people I swear, please what have I been saying since? .

guy gimme space if you no wan wise up

airmark:


You dont even know all about the player you are flying his kite here. Nani was sold to fenerbahce for a paltry sum less than 5m. Only a failure at 28 years will leave for that amount. Like i said only fools will drag nani near hazard. Let it slide.

you got me mehn,
I completely forgot about his days in fernabache.

cancelling that Hazard-Ribery talk doesn't make it not true,am really proud of that.

dopeJemi:


I dare you to edit hazard's skill videos to be better than messi's, you have all the time in the world, that your 1k dollz at stake

you dey talk like say the videos na Photoshop and no be the players dey do am, i have been following messi since 2006 and I can beat my chest and say hazard is no where near messi

na you we suppose screen comot

Messi is the best player I have ever witness former maradonna. But all what we and Zidane are saying is that Hazard got Messi ability.

SIRcumalot:

you got me mehn,
I completely forgot about his days in fernabache.

cancelling that Hazard-Ribery talk doesn't make it not true,am really proud of that.

Hazard don't even play like Ribery. He's more like Messi in dribbling and flashy like cr7. Zidane said same thing which observed too.

dopeJemi:


[s]I dare you to edit hazard's skill videos to be better than messi's, you have all the time in the world, that your 1k dollz at stake

you dey talk like say the videos na Photoshop and no be the players dey do am, i have been following messi since 2006 and I can beat my chest and say hazard is no where near messi

na you we suppose screen comot[/s]

You came here to tell us about watching a youtube video comparing neymar and hazard and you concluded and praised neymar. I just informed you what editing could do to suppress the 'A' moments of one player and highlight another's. I can edit out all ronaldo's worldie goals and put his tapins/penalties and add all nani's best solo goals and upload on youtube. Smart people will dig what i am up to and laugh it off.

afrodoc2:


I am not hating on Hazard.
It was AFTER considering his supporting cast that I said he is not near him. I made adjustments for that and he is not near.
In the history of the game they are looking for who to place ahead of Messi and struggling and you people want to compare one 11 goal a season player to him.
Since Hazard came to Chelsea he has 55 league goals and Messi had 174 or 175, that is a factor of 3!
If u explain that with supporting cast then the difference between Clem ohameze and Marlon Brando was supporting cast and the difference between Aboutrika and Zidane was supporting cast.

Shebi that is why we're all shouting for Hazard to shoot more.

Let him shoot more first and we can see. Me i believe he has the physical and technical attributes that he needs to be as effective as Messi. The only difference between them is their brains.

Even in FIFA video game, Messi is rated 93, Hazard is rated 88, so even their scouts must be in agreement with what we're saying.

Hazard shoot more!

airmark:


You came here to tell us about watching a youtube video comparing neymar and hazard and you concluded and praised neymar. I just informed you what editing could do to suppress the 'A' moments of one player and highlight another's. I can edit out all ronaldo's worldie goals and put his tapins/penalties and add all nani's best solo goals and upload on youtube. Smart people will dig what i am up to and laugh it off.

quick question, minus youtube videos. who dribbles more between neymar and hazard?


another question, what else does hazard do except what we have stated here, are you trying to tell me that all of hazard's videos on YouTube were edited to make him look inferior? if there is something else hazard does, you would see it on YouTube too, hazard has fans there too

quit with the canceling already, it is lame

Nihilist:


Shebi that is why we're all shouting for Hazard to shoot more.

Let him shoot more first and we can see. Me i believe he has the physical and technical attributes that he needs to be as effective as Messi. The only difference between them is their brains.

Even in FIFA video game, Messi is rated 93, Hazard is rated 88, so even their scouts must be in agreement with what we're saying.

Hazard shoot more!

That brain you just glossed over is what separates Messi from others like Hazard and co.
Also let us wait for him to shoot more and see the result first instead of just assuming and comparing him to one of the GOATS.
I am not knocking Hazard unnecessarily but there are levels to this and he is not even on the next level below Messi yet.

SIRcumalot:

you got me mehn,
I completely forgot about his days in fernabache.

cancelling that Hazard-Ribery talk doesn't make it not true,am really proud of that.

I cancelled that hazard-ribery line for a reason. I want us to conclude on those bringing nani stvpidly near hazard. Man utd bought nani for 25m and sold him for 5m at that age, after a loan to his home country speaks volume. Sometimes there are some comparisons we need not bring up, they are very absurd. I know a man utd fan that spent huge amount celebrating the night nani was loaned. We can discuss hazard-ribery next time, apari dayo toeing the line of a weed taker needed to be dealt with first. Nani ko Nina ni

afrodoc2:


That brain you just glossed over is what separates Messi from others like Hazard and co.
Also let us wait for him to shoot more and see the result first instead of just assuming and comparing him to one of the GOATS.
I am not knocking Hazard unnecessarily but there are levels to this and he is not even on the next level below Messi yet.

I think you misunderstand this entire discussion doctor.

Let me remind you

Nihilist:


I actually made this point about Hazard at the start of the season and it's very true. Hazard needs to be more selfish in his game. Unfortunately, he somehow feels that he carrys the burden of creating chances for the team.

If hazard chose to pass less and shoot more, he would be unstoppable. Statistically the main difference between Hazard and Messi/Ronaldo is the volume and rate of shots. Everything else is not so disimmilar