obaaderemi:
They are not trapped.awolowo fought 4 a referendum and the ilorin yorubas still voted to be part of north.It has become their problem.like i said earlier,it isn't an issue 4 this thread.

Mr. you lied. Where did you get your information? Ilorin voted to be part of which north? Go to Nigeria archive and read what happened to MOMOH of Ilorin. And find out about ILORIN when OYO positioned her representative their when British came. You make me laugh seriously.

TayserMahiri:


I thiink you can wash it in public abit , there is still some space. Let it get clean

You better go drink cow's blood to increase your chance of turning to a v..p.re






Not interested!

Olu317:
You better go drink cow's blood to increase your chance of turning to a v..p.re






Not interested!

Take care of the starving

Maduawuchukwu:


OBJ really tried but I understand where you are coming from bro. After OBJ's reign people tried to analyse his government and it was difficult because OBJ functioned like a bi-polar patient. He really tried in some areas and failed woefully in others but at the end of the day one can say he left Nigeria better than he met it.
You must understand that before Obj Nigeria was practically dead. We were not connected to the world either economically or even in other areas. Heck, we were still depending on letter writing to send messages. Something could happen today and you would here it in the next 3 days. There was no way investment could come into Nigeria that way.OBJ changed that.
Nigeria's banking industry was mere corporate Yahoo Yahoo. People would just set up banks with low capital base which would fail in the space of no time and people would lose their money. OBJ came and revolutionised the sector and made it Africa's largest. the thing don give Job tire.
Also the general economy was buoyant in OBJ's time.Inflation was down, Forex was stable and the middle class was created.
Also OBJ was a detribalized Nigerian in all his affairs.
OBJ's failures were in how he rigged elections blatantly without conscience, human life meant nothing to him as far as State honour was concerned eg Zaki Biam and Odi massacres, he was very corrupt and self-righteous and he did poorly In Infrastructure
At the end of the day OBJ can only be judged on the basis of his achievement and failures but he left behind a better Nigeria

Good analysis.
However, i never said that OBJ did absolutely nothing. My point is that GEJ achieved more than him (OBJ).

The reason why many of you see OBJ as a hero or a president worth commending is simply because Nigeria was practically dead (due to military rule) when it was handed over to OBJ. So all OBJ did was to join along the moving train of governance as was obtainnable in other democratic settings with simple steps like bringing in the telecommunication and banking industries. Of course, there was hardly a way these private investors would have been encouraged to invest in Nigeria with an unstable military led govt system.
So from a rational point of view, i can say that all OBJ did was to catch up with the developing world trend (in the telecomunication industry), and as for the banking industry, lets say ok, he enacted a policy which made the banking industry very stable and more efficient.
As for the economic buoyancy you are talking of, it's not as if OBJ made Nigeria the largest economy in Africa or he made our income per capital very high. It was not as if he took our exchange rate to dollar from where he met it to #50 per dollar.

Ask yourself, are these very meagre achievements really worth commendation for a presidency tenure of 8 years? To the extent that some of you are claiming that OBJ was Nigeria's best president? Jeeez!

forgiveness:



How would you know all these things without the social media which was introduced and made available at an affordable price by Obasanjo?

Ghana, Togo, Benin etc were already using what we now call GSM 5 years before Obasanjo brought it.

North Korea never allowed such even till now and even our government then never wanted, to keep us in the dark like North Korea is doing to her citizens.

Banking system in Nigeria was nothing to write home about before Obasanjo brought Soludo to reform the banking sector.

Nigeria banks wasn't bankable and trustable.

We should commend him for those achievement.

Do you think Yaradua and Jonathan renovated the railway system?

I still remembered when I saw the Chinese fixing the railway tracks at Ibadan during the reign of Obasanjo.

Obasanjo laid the foundation Jonathan built on. Buhari is still using Obasanjo railway template.

American situation and Nigeria situation is different. No comparison.

Obasanjo did well to pay debts or get dept forgiveness.

So, banking sector and Telecommunication sector are not part of diversification of the economy?

Obasanjo encouraged the development of local weapons and war ships.

We know Obasanjo believed in democracy.

At least, he tried in some cases.

Same reply for u

Nowenuse:


Good analysis.
However, i never said that OBJ did absolutely nothing. My point is that GEJ achieved more than him (OBJ).

The reason why many of you see OBJ as a hero or a president worth commending is simply because Nigeria was practically dead (due to military rule) when it was handed over to OBJ. So all OBJ did was to join along the moving train of governance as was obtainnable in other democratic settings with simple steps like bringing in the telecommunication and banking industries. Of course, there was hardly a way these private investors would have been encouraged to invest in Nigeria with an unstable military led govt system.
So from a rational point of view, i can say that all OBJ did was to catch up with the developing world trend (in the telecomunication industry), and as for the banking industry, lets say ok, he enacted a policy which made the banking industry very stable and more efficient.
As for the economic buoyancy you are talking of, it's not as if OBJ made Nigeria the largest economy in Africa or he made our income per capital very high. It was not as if he took our exchange rate to dollar from where he met it to #50 per dollar.

Ask yourself, are these very meagre achievements really worth commendation for a presidency tenure of 8 years? To the extent that some of you are claiming that OBJ was Nigeria's best president? Jeeez!

Nowenuse:


Good analysis.
However, i never said that OBJ did absolutely nothing. My point is that GEJ achieved more than him (OBJ).

The reason why many of you see OBJ as a hero or a president worth commending is simply because Nigeria was practically dead (due to military rule) when it was handed over to OBJ. So all OBJ did was to join along the moving train of governance as was obtainnable in other democratic settings with simple steps like bringing in the telecommunication and banking industries. Of course, there was hardly a way these private investors would have been encouraged to invest in Nigeria with an unstable military led govt system.
So from a rational point of view, i can say that all OBJ did was to catch up with the developing world trend (in the telecomunication industry), and as for the banking industry, lets say ok, he enacted a policy which made the banking industry very stable and more efficient.
As for the economic buoyancy you are talking of, it's not as if OBJ made Nigeria the largest economy in Africa or he made our income per capital very high. It was not as if he took our exchange rate to dollar from where he met it to #50 per dollar.

Ask yourself, are these very meagre achievements really worth commendation for a presidency tenure of 8 years? To the extent that some of you are claiming that OBJ was Nigeria's best president? Jeeez!

My brother, Jonathan's failure was a capital FAILURE. Please don't compare him with OBJ.

obaaderemi:
They are not trapped.awolowo fought 4 a referendum and the ilorin yorubas still voted to be part of north.It has become their problem.like i said earlier,it isn't an issue 4 this thread.

I am not aware of any referendum Awo organized for Ilorin people. Pls help me with a verified link to see it.

Let me agree it's true. What about the people of Kabba province? They have always been independent of Ilorin. Did they also participate in the referendum?
What about present day Kwara south people? Did they also participate? I can't believe that present day Kwara south and Kogi west people will vote to join the north. Ilorin (Kwara central) is quite believable though, due to how mixed they have become with Hausa-fulanis.

uzzyfire:
I watched that YOLO movie and I was laughing chai !! they were speaking plain pidgin and adding some of their language. they were even using Nigerian exclamations like oya, na wa oo, chei ,aaahhh, abeg
I was like WTF !!! they were even using Nigerian swag .
and the worst part is that their accent does not even fit pidgin at alllllll, it was now like they were saying rubbish .

is that wat just30 was calling "Ghanaian pidgin" these guys shud just come up with something unique to ghana and stop trying to copy Nigeria all d time cos dey are really bad at it looooll

Ghana does not have a standard pidgin. Just30 has been busted long ago. They just do a cut, copy and paste of Naija pidgin, Ghanaian accent of English and their native Akan language.

iblawi:


My brother, Jonathan's failure was a capital FAILURE. Please don't compare him with OBJ.

Then i guess someone who could murder his own people and built almost nothing in a large country like Nigeria was a success?
Someone who allowed Sharia law to thrive in Nigeria?
They both had their good and bad sides.

Nowenuse:


Ghana does not have a standard pidgin. Just30 has been busted long ago. They just do a cut, copy and paste of Naija pidgin, Ghanaian accent of English and their native Akan language.

Ghana will forever copy naija . even d bad things sef loookll

uzzyfire:
Ghana will forever copy naija . even d bad things sef loookll

hello Utopian
How are you?
Have you been fed?

Nowenuse:


Ghana does not have a standard pidgin. Just30 has been busted long ago. They just do a cut, copy and paste of Naija pidgin, Ghanaian accent of English and their native Akan language.

keep on making absurd claims

Baringo, Garissa, Isiolo, Kilifi, Kwale, Laikipia, Mandera, Marsabit, Samburu, Taita Taveta, Tana River, Turkana, West Pokot and Wajir.

All the above are currently experiencing drought.

TayserMahiri:


Take care of the starving

naijalander:

Baringo, Garissa, Isiolo, Kilifi, Kwale, Laikipia, Mandera, Marsabit, Samburu, Taita Taveta, Tana River, Turkana, West Pokot and Wajir.

All the above are currently experiencing drought.

And how many have died?

Just30:
hello Utopian
How are you?
Have you been fed?

this guy Sabi yarn rubbish olohun ,can't u dispute or defend wat I sed .

Just30:
hello Utopian
How are you?
Have you been fed?

This is plain English and not pigin.

Hello..., how are you? Have you been fed?

Can you interpret your pigin to queen's English please?

TayserMahiri:


And how many have died?

Seems like you dont get it, do you?
Nigerians are starving because of an insurgency which forced them out of their homes.
There is no political instability in Kenya. Why then are your people starving?

TayserMahiri:


Ethiopians will be speaking swahili soon. They are finally opening up to regional trade.

we are now changing, we are opening up, but i don't think we will be speaking swahilli. Ethiopians can be sociable but they always try to keep thier culture the way it is including 'amharic'. But when did Egyptians ever start speaking amharic?

Nowenuse:


I am not aware of any referendum Awo organized for Ilorin people. Pls help me with a verified link to see it.

Let me agree it's true. What about the people of Kabba province? They have always been independent of Ilorin. Did they also participate in the referendum?
What about present day Kwara south people? Did they also participate? I can't believe that present day Kwara south and Kogi west people will vote to join the north. Ilorin (Kwara central) is quite believable though, due to how mixed they have become with Hausa-fulanis.

There was actually a referendum to make ilorin/kabba province part of the west in the 50s.I read about it long ago and had forgotten some of the details.But i had to search the net for this today and realized those parts remain a part of the north because the result of the ref. wasn't honored.you may open the link to know more.sorry for the mixup,my bad https://adeyinkagrandson.tumblr.com/post/87008578650/yoruba-self-rule

Ednite:


we are now changing, we are opening up, but i don't think we will be speaking swahilli. Ethiopians can be sociable but they always try to keep thier culture the way it is including 'amharic'. But when did Egyptians ever start speaking amharic?

are u Ethiopian?

uzzyfire:
are u Ethiopian?

yes

Ednite:


yes

wow, its cool to talk to an Ethiopian for once and not these Kenyans and ghanains

uzzyfire:
wow, its cool to talk to an Ethiopian for once and not these Kenyans and ghanains

you're a Nigerian?

Tho, all you guys need to stop this fight

iblawi:


This is plain English and not pigin.

Hello..., how are you? Have you been fed?

Can you interpret your pigin to queen's English please?

and did I tell you, I speak those shit?
You might end up on the streets if you speak pidgin in my house.
Only illiterates do

uzzyfire:
this guy Sabi yarn rubbish olohun ,can't u dispute or defend wat I sed .

how do I defend someone living in utopia

Just30:
and did I tell you, I speak those shit? You might end up on the streets if you speak pidgin in my house. Only illiterates do

dats y pidgin is not meant for ghanains

obaaderemi:
There was actually a referendum to make ilorin/kabba province part of the west in the 50s.I read about it long ago and had forgotten some of the details.But i had to search the net for this today and realized those parts remain a part of the north because the result of the ref. wasn't honored.you may open the link to know more.sorry for the mixup,my bad https://adeyinkagrandson.tumblr.com/post/87008578650/yoruba-self-rule

Ok, thanks for the clarification. Cos i cannot possibly believe that majority of them will vote to remain with the north.

It pains me seeing many southernerns falling for the prank of Hausa-fulanis projecting a big 19 northern states to intimidate the South and claim to be speaking for all the 19 northern states at the same time when they only speak for themselves.

I blame our own elders in the middlebelt for keeping too silent on these things.
For many years now, middlebelt leaders have been too silent. We the youths, i think it's time for us to take our destinies in our own hands.

Olu317:
Mr. you lied. Where did you get your information? Ilorin voted to be part of which north? Go to Nigeria archive and read what happened to MOMOH of Ilorin. And find out about ILORIN when OYO positioned her representative their when British came. You make me laugh seriously.

There was a referendum in the 50s actually to bring ilorin kabba province to the western region.Read about it long ago and because it failed to liberate that province(i didnt remember the fine details)and ilorin/kabba remained part of the north,i thought it was due to the people's intention.The people were actually denied their right.This link which i just found clears the mix-up.sorry for that. https://adeyinkagrandson.tumblr.com/post/87008578650/yoruba-self-rule

uzzyfire:
wow, its cool to talk to an Ethiopian for once and not these Kenyans and ghanains

you've already started looking for another country to do comparison with
Looking for someone to make you feel good about your country

Ednite:


we are now changing, we are opening up, but i don't think we will be speaking swahilli. Ethiopians can be sociable but they always try to keep thier culture the way it is including 'amharic'. But when did Egyptians ever start speaking amharic?

Of course. I know that Amharic is such a strong language and no way Swahili would ever penetrate Ethiopia.
I hope TayserMahiri has heard from you (an ethiopian) himself.

uzzyfire:
dats y pidgin is not meant for ghanains

this guy is high on weed

Just30:
you've already started looking for another country to do comparison with
Looking for someone to make you feel good about your country

if what i think you're saying here and what you're saying matches, you better correct your statment