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Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:20am On Apr 25, 2017 |
Stewie101: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_atheism 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by johnydon22(m): 11:20am On Apr 25, 2017 |
Theism claims that God is an eternal being therefore it's existence does not need to be explained in terms of causality: but it also appeals to logic that there is no restrictions to the amount of eternal uncaused beings that can exist. if one can exist then 2 can as well as 3 as well as billions of eternal things . if you are to save a step and deny God the explanation of a cause then anybody can simply save that same step and deny a causality for the universe - there is no way that it works out for you. one can also in the same way save a step and attribute every possible universe to an eternal multiverse within a hyper space. the possibilities are endless. exempting the idea of God from causality does not solve the problem but rather postpones it, again as i have noticed in many theistic arguments God always seize to a person at some point and just becomes "The thing that created the universe" which always leads me to ask what makes a God? Is a thing God because it created the universe or is God still God whether or not it created the universe? 5 Likes |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:21am On Apr 25, 2017 |
AgentOfAllah: forgotten your discourse with deepsight ? |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by johnydon22(m): 11:23am On Apr 25, 2017 |
Stewie101:lmao |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:27am On Apr 25, 2017 |
Stewie101: Atheism is not philosophical position so there are no constructional elements that constitute atheism . So claiming that atheists are strongly against brainwashing and obscurantism is ludicrous . Where did you get that from . What do you guys smoke before you argue ? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by dalaman: 11:29am On Apr 25, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: These guys whose names you dropped didn't write the bible. They didn't know the intention of the people that wrote those creation myth. That is if it was meant to be taken literally or not. There is no where inside the bible that sas or suggest that the creation myth isn't to be taken literally. Many young earth creationist even here on nairaland give it a literal 6 day interpretation why are they wrong? What is the true position of Yahweh on creation? Does he want prole to believe in what he told people to write in the bible or not? You can ask him.that as well since you claim to communicate with him. [What makes something an enigma ? The mystery or wonder behind its existence , behavior or acts . Let's look at the magicians . What makes magic interesting is that the magicians' prestidigitation or subterfuge is difficult to decipher . His acts of magic leaves you transfixed . If a magician reveals the mystery behind his acts then it ceases to be an enigma . You immediately lose interest . Magicians by definition are tricksters that use tricks to beguile those they entertain. God on the other hand is said to want people to KNOW that he alone created the earth and everything. He is interested in people knowing. Your God even gave a failed attempt of how the universe came about in the book of genesis, because he wants people to know. You can't compare magicians that want to conceal the tricks they employ witha God that is said to want people to know that he alone created everything. Communicte with your God already and tell us how he create the earth so that we will know that he alone created it or just accept that you are delusional. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by akintom(m): 11:30am On Apr 25, 2017 |
CatfishBilly:That guy has some weird fixation on human brain. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:32am On Apr 25, 2017 |
hahn: I do not rage when atheists demand proof , so why should I answer the question Here is my question : Why do atheists rage when Christians demand proof |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by hahn(m): 11:36am On Apr 25, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: So the fact that you have created more threads directed at atheists than at your god proves what? Here is my question : Why do atheists rage when Christians demand proof Proof of what exactly? |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:38am On Apr 25, 2017 |
dalaman: Therefore , the universe is eternal ? I mean what other possibility is left ? See how you spoilt show for yourself . Finally the truth has been discovered . Mister mister Mr eternal universe . Oya Oya Now produce the scientific evidence backing this belief or else you are seriously deluded . Let's have fun sir . Let's go ! |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:40am On Apr 25, 2017 |
hahn: Atheism is dangerous and only the retarded embrace it. People need to be aware . Proof of what exactly? Why are you an A-Theist ?? |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by frank317: 11:48am On Apr 25, 2017 |
hopefulLandlord: When intelligence is speaking elders just nod their head and let out 'hmmmmm' 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by akintom(m): 11:48am On Apr 25, 2017 |
akintom: This gang of derailer, are sample population of the Yahweh's children, who can't defend the contradiction in the words of their father. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by hahn(m): 11:52am On Apr 25, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: Lol Why are you an A-Theist ?? It has gotten to that point in our conversation again That point when I wonder why I even bother |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by dalaman: 11:54am On Apr 25, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: False dichotomy from your side. It is not God or nothing. The universe could be eternal. No scientist knows that. It could be created, no scientist knows that as well. The nature of what created the universe even if it were created is UNKNOWN. When I talk about God am talking about Yahweh, Allah, Brahama, Odin etc. Non of these Gods created the universe. Unless if you want to run and hide behind the unknown and undefined desitic concept of God to run away . 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by Nobody: 11:54am On Apr 25, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: What "constructional elements" (just borrowing your own phrase) leads most atheists out of religion, if not the escape from brainwashing and religious propaganda like the ones your creationist friends peddle, and utilization of the tools of critical thinking which religion stifles? Are you disputing the fact that atheists preach about the usefulness of these three elements? 2 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 11:54am On Apr 25, 2017 |
dalaman: You are throwing the same questions back at me sir . Your questions were well answered . Allegory ? The bible is filled with allegories which apparently the creation story is one of them . Why God isn't revealing all things ? Because anything unknown or mysterious draws our interest and excites our minds . If God or His works were an open book I strongly doubt we would show interest towards unraveling the mystery behind the existence of God (Asiety) or His works ( Science ) . We are totally riveted with discoveries in nature and studying the nature of God's being because these are enigmas . What is wrong with this response sir ? |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:00pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
dalaman: I reiterated on this thread that an eternal universe does not preclude the existence of God explaining how: https://www.nairaland.com/3728578/six-extremely-ridiculous-beliefs-atheists Now you claim that I said God or nothing ? Wow ! I've always said that It is God , nothing or an eternal universe without God (bearing in mind that some theists claim the eternal universe is as eternal as God ) The nature of what created the universe even if it were created is UNKNOWN. When I talk about God am talking about Yahweh, Allah, Brahama, Odin etc. Non of these a gods created the universe. Unless if you want to run and hide behind the unknown and undefined desitic concept of God to run away . We've argued this ad nauseum . I strongly believe you know the germane response to this . |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by Wilgrea7(m): 12:04pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
CatfishBilly: you just killed me |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:05pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
Stewie101: Now I'm getting bored of playing this game . Please I implore you to peruse this thread : https://www.nairaland.com/3500235/must-read-god-without-religion There are religious atheists , there are atheists who support Intelligent Design (Raelism) and there are atheists who are superstitious . And there are people who acknowledge the existence of God while repudiating religious concepts of God (Deism) You have so much to learn but I'm happy you are learning already . |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:06pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
hahn: Bye bye |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by dalaman: 12:09pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog: The creation story isn't an allegory because many christians don't see it that way. What criteria is used know if something is an allegory or not? God is said to want people to KNOW that he created the universe. It is not said that he wants people to unravel anything. It is said that he wants people to KNOW and it is important to him that people know. Humans have made a lot of discoveries about nature on their own and they haven't found anything pointing to any God anywhere. If God doesn't want people to know about how he created the universe he wouldn't have attempted to even talk about it in the bible for example. 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by Nobody: 12:11pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
akintom: What is the atheistic views? (I know the scientific propositions) |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by AgentOfAllah: 12:12pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
KingEbukasBlog:Nope, but you clearly have! Please revisit the thread again, to remind yourself that I said nothing of the sort. |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by hopefulLandlord: 12:12pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
onyenze123: onyenze123: I seriously wonder what concerns a "deist" with a question thrown at "Christians" |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by dalaman: 12:15pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
AgentOfAllah: KingEbukasBlog have you been caught lying? |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by Nobody: 12:17pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
hahn: He has joined deism. I have got a new member |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by hahn(m): 12:18pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
onyenze123: Unfortunately, he is still confused |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by dalaman: 12:18pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
johnydon22: Very interesting questions. This is what I've always wanted to ask KingEbukasBlog. |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:18pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
dalaman: I may have misconstrued his arguments . AgentofAllah , if you were not arguing for a universe that came from nothing , what were you arguing for ?And where do you stand ? Please be clear not like Kay17 who is always evasive. |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by KingEbukasBlog(m): 12:20pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
dalaman: God : The extremely powerful uncaused necessarily existing non-contingent non physical immaterial eternal being who created the universe and everything in it . Created in the sense the universe relies on God's existence for its existence . Are we clear now ? |
Re: Why Do Christians Rage, When Atheists Demand Proofs? by Nobody: 12:28pm On Apr 25, 2017 |
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